So, it boils down to the type of gamer you are. At this stage, T3 would plump for the more mature Move but can see the draw of the Kinect for family fun gaming.
Reviews and people can't compare these to completely different pieces of hardware, they are to different, game-play wise and also set-up. Kinect is full body control whereas the PSMove is a motion controller, the beginning line is where they should of realised the review was not needed "it boils down to the type of gamer you are." . If people need to understand what each product are like, it would be better to watch videos of game-play more than reading an opinion.
Kinect is easy to explain, just ask VG Cats. http://www.vgcats.com/comic...
Everybody is trying to get their word in edgewise. Level headed people know there is a difference but some just want to keep trying to justify them as being the same.
im just gonna say that one works and the other one doesn't
I'm just gonna say that both Sony and M.S are chasing the profits and fickle fools who have been too 'elitist' (lol @ elitism @ 720p) to buy a Wii now want these for their uber hardcore games like...um...um, yeah same thing, different name.
Hm,.. I bought a Wii, have no big problems with it,..except for the lack of Hardcore type of games,.. like RESI4,..and a bit to much ''just waggle'' action,.. And I really love the Move,..So what are you saying? This in the other hand is only capable of doing expensive Eye-toy games,..and barely works,.. At that price ,.. It is cheaper just to sodomize myself, rather than let MS do it for such a fucking ridiculous price,..
Spartan don't talk without knowing by himself a product! Yesterday was my first day with kinect en me and my son were having a lot of fun! I know they can do core games that are not the traditional s games that we use to play just let de idea storm begin.
I picked kinect up yesterday in the UK and after everything I have read on this site about kinect not working is not true it works very well and dose not need any more space than the Wii or move dose when playing sports game. The lag people keep going on about I can not see any on the games I have played so far. The only problem I have with kinect is I live in a apartment that one wall is all galss and faces into the Sun and when the Sun is fully shigning into the room kinect can not see me but that is the same for move too. If I had to pick which one was the best in what I have seen from the two so far so I would Say I am more impressed with kinect over move. The games are lacking to take the advantage of the move controller at the moment and when you compare the kinect best games vs move best games the kinect game feel better and nit just had kinect support added to them. I know alot of you won't like what I have said but that's what I think just like you think different.
If we are to extrapolate your comment. You are correct in saying it as one works for the ps3 and the other one doesnt. Or perhaps you were meaning it as, one works for the 360 and the other doesn't. Bottom line, they both work and neither is perfect. Both have their kinks to be worked out. Not by us mind you...by the developers and how they choose to use these fruits of MS/Sony labor. I think the real comparative reviews should be on a game that uses both. No more of these apples to onions reviews.
A Camera takes pictures, a controller has buttons, a camera tracks stuff, a controller you press to do actions with.....oh screw this shit why compare them, one uses body movements the other uses a controller and movements, so screw this shit if one of them tickles your fancy go ahead and buy it, that's all
Yes buying the one you like is a bad choice after all
...both use cameras.
the other one uses the wand, different tracking method
the worst piece of technology in the modern world! 150€ (206$) for a SD Webcam is outrageous! I feel sorry for everyone who affirms something else entirely!
Don't feel sorry for me.....just be proud that you are sooo grreeate and inteligent!
Full body motion is a natural evolution in motion, period. Motion in theory suggests using real motion is the very definition of the concept. Using tools to artificially create motion like needing waggle sticks is primitive. This is why Kinect is outselling its competition and fanboys are angry as hell and secretly envious. Yes two different experiences indeed. Some experience a KC-135A plane ride ascending for a zero gravity maneuver to experience 0-g flight so they can experience space but now with Kinect why not go on a space walk? PS move for the hardcore crap was created by fanboys and they conditioned the industry to regurgitate that myth. First Wii was for casuals and Sony copies them and just because they patch Move support support with traditional games it's hardcore? lol Move doesn't have games, it has patched games not designed for Move as a shortcut smoke and mirrors selling point.
is so bad! it' s the realization of Kinect!
That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Congrats, you have taken mindless trolling to a new level.
Looking at the the disagrees in a article that is alone in opinion out of dozens I stand corrected.
Agrees and disagrees are still an opinion and neither can be taken for the truth.
Using tools is primitive? Lol
Apparently in Gigaware's mind BEING a tool isn't primitive.
READ FIRST this comment is just my personal opinion i am in no way trying to force it or trying to change someone elses opinion on the matter. This is not a trolling or a bashing comment just an opinion. If you hate reading opinions then skip this comment 1. feel of the games require more skill than those on Kinect 2.While the PS3 Eye only picks up the Move controllers, the results are more accurate than Kinect. 3.What's more, you can play some games sitting down, without having to move furniture out of the way first. 4.In Sports Champions' table tennis, the bat can be rotated in all directions, on all axis and with zero lag 5.One of the biggest sticking points with Kinect is the price. Those are my reasons for preferring move over kinect. They are both good techs but Move caters to me more than kinect does. PS: Go ahead XBOTS attack me i know you want to
I'm not going to attack you but I'll respond to your list. 1. That really depends on the games you're playing. Playing Kinect Sports on the hardest difficulty actually takes some skill and playing online is pure skill vs skill. I'm not going to say ever game requires skill, but there are certain ones that are some what challenging and take some skill to win. 2. I've never used Move so I can't really say, but Kinect thus far, in Kinect Sports specifically have been very accurate with no noticeable lag. Kinect Adventures has a few mini games that are accurate, but there is some noticeable lag. 3. You can play Kinect sitting down, I've played the Joyride demo in a pitch black room with the only light coming from my TV while sitting in a recliner and had no problems playing the game at all. 4. Table Tennis in Kinect Sports is one of the most accuracy lag free games I've played, you can also rotate the paddle with you're hand, and even add spin to the ball, move closer and further away from the table and change the direction of the ball at any given time. 5. For me, I only bought Kinect because I wanted to play some games with my GF and those are the only types of games she will play are the casual ones. So for me, to have 2 move controllers and another DS3 or navigation controller would have cost me more for Move than Kinect for 2 players. She even had her friends come over and we was able to play 4 player bowling no problems all with one Kinect. I personally choose Kinect over Move because I wanted to play multiplayer with my GF and my other friends as well, where I only wanted Move for my shooting games like MAG, but when it comes down to it, I'll end up going back to the DS3 anyway, so for me it would be kind of pointless.
I hate you i am reporting you for trolling....lol kidding you do make good points but i still prefer move over kinect. Gotta love freedom of speech and opinion
So Move wins ... no surprise , it works so well.
'There is talk of the Move controller working with the XMB' ?? It does - it works brilliantly, flicking through menus is a treat. It can also be used for video playback, music playback, and more.
Hey is there any way to adjust the sensitivity?
Rather than hold the trigger,tap it.Works well for the final selection of icons.Very fast.
In the future, a successor for Kinect might be able to track your whole body including fingers at 60 frames per second with zero glitches and minimal lag. At present though, Kinect is a faulty motion control product. The lag is not minimal enough for serious hardcore games and the tracking glitches prevents it for being a serious contender to PS Move.
i love my kinect it is a great fun and does amazing stuff voice control is spot on. before i bought it tho i was fully aware it was not for hardcore gameing and for fun gaming. pad/mouse and keybroad for hardcore gaming (why would people want different?) motion controls for fun gaming.
it would be more fun if the technology would be not so bad and expensive!
not going to sell well in Asia. Just look at the size of the area in order to play Kinect. http://www.mobigizmos.com/w...
You don't need that much room to play. I've played Kinect sitting down 3 feet from the TV and it worked just fine. I've even played the more active Kinect games about 4-5 feet away and it worked as well. They say 6 feet is the minimum, but I've played plently of times below that with no noticeable gameplay differences from playing at 6-8 feet, versus 3-4 feet away. EDIT: Sorry what? What you just said doesn't mean everyone has to move things around or stand further back since it obviously worked for me without having to move anything. The only time I need to move anything is if I played 2 players, and all I need to do is move my coffee table 2-3 feet back, which takes 2 seconds and not a problem at all.
my friend where i played it yesterday had to shift his furniture to play it and he had lot more room than i need to play move!!
http://www.gamespot.com/xbo... Lack of accuracy: "Sonic Free Riders has difficulty recognizing degrees of movement, so it's nearly impossible to avoid obstacles in the road without slamming directly into a nearby wall." Lag: "The biggest problem is that there's a delay between your real-life movements and the in-game representations." Thus: "Unfortunately, all of the good elements in Sonic Free Riders are overshadowed by the aggravating controls. They're simply not responsive enough for the fast action, ..." I can't imagine Kinect doing any hardcore game that requires fast reflexes and reliable accuracy with minimal delay/lag. Kinect - only for casual experience Move - caters to both casual and hardcore
http://www.strategyinformer... "Kinect Sport's Ping Pong is the best version we've seen so far, in that you don't simply swing your arm in the general right direction - this time, you actually need to swing in the correct position too" Kinect maps force perfectly, since it knows your exact skeleton position at each time, in fact can map speed, force and twist for the whole body, than just a tip of a hand http://www.msxbox-world.com... The table tennis is perhaps the best game on the disk as mimicking the actions of a real match is pretty much spot on. You can perform top spin, back spin and even smash shots as you would in a real game, it just seems to sit so comfortably as you play. The AI is good, and when you up the difficulty offers some real challenge as it returns your smashes and changes the tempo of the ball at random. Lag doesn't really pose a problem here at all
How do you define better? Does Kinect have less lag than Move? No. Does Kinect have more accuracy than move? No. Is Kinect capable of 60 fps tracking? No, but the Move does. And last: Does Kinect have BUTTONS? NO. In all the areas where hardcore games are concerned, the Move is a better product.
You forgot about forcefeed back while gaming!
labwarrior, the author of that article clearly hasn't played table tennis on Sports Champions. It is deadly accurate... so accurate that you actually can play the game as if you were actually holding a racket, top spin, chop shots, power shots hitting from all angles in 3d. That author is delusional. Maybe someday you'll try it and find out for yourself.
I dont know about better, but definatly has the better selection of games that i personally want to play right NOW. The Move is just simply not appealing to me right now. Not saying i will not get it in the future if KZ3 works good with it, but as of right now it seems like a overprised wii add on without the games to back it... Now the Kinect is just so attractive this holliday season. Man i cant wait for christmas with my 3 boys playing it. And its something i definatly see my wife(who hates video games btw) playing right along with us. MS is masters at advertising i know, but i see this thing selling millions. Not only did they make several games right out the gate for it, but the price point is very attractive as well. I remember 2 years back i purchased ROCK BAND for my sons for christmas for $150.00. And Kinect at the same price point with a game is a much better deal in my opinion. This is a Great price point for in my opinion the best game toy available this christmas..
From article! "Sony's Move is for more serious gamers. The games are more grown up, the skill level is a little higher and it's less arcade-y. The rate at which developers are making big games Move-compatible is also telling."
the fallacy this article buys into is that hardcore gamers are not interested in kinect. As a hardcore gamer, i want my hardcore sit on the couch games with a controller and not have to point something at my screen for hours, i have that with the 360. I also want to get up and be active and play games, I can do that too now. I'm also not limited to only using my device on games. Move might be more accurate, but its also more laggy from my experience with both. The wii actually is quicker than the move, albeit not as accurate, that's also important which usually goes overlooked.
Sorry, but you sound like you never played Move, Its has 0 lag, and its more accurate than the Wiimote plus. try comparing table tennis with both WiiMote and MOVE. as for Kinect, it lags so much it even not funny... also there are no core games for your 360 except for one coming in 2011 gears 3 which i think it also gonna be on the PC. have fun playing your casual games on your 360, while some of us "gamers" will play core games on both PC and PS3 http://oi54.tinypic.com/30w...
Gamer7804 Load of crap
Damn how many times do these articles need to declare move the more accurate and superior product before fanboys stop coming in saying but but TEH SALES TEH SALES of kinect ? away and enjoy sales game and when microsoft uses your sales money from kinect to buy HELLO KITTYS FURRY ADVENTURES for 50mill to be exclusive be sure to enjoy that too
All I'm saying is sports champion should have been online at least kinect has that ..that pisses me off but I still like move ..kinect is a cool device for my 3 1/2 years old son he would live it but as of now he loved start the party demo and exspects the full retail game fron Santa clause this x-mas he likes the robot mini game and wack mole ..move wins
People are falling for Microsoft's hype. Kinect isn't lag free and Move and Wii are not hard to use. They add more variation to the games that they can make . Kinect has already proven it's limitations from the very beginning. I mean seriously, how many dance, mini and boarding games are you going to buy? If Kinect had come out and shown that it can do different things and has no limitations I would have been happy to admit I am wrong about it. But the first thing they do is make 19 Wii and Eyetoy clones and show that any game that goes beyond the mini game or dance genre barely works e.g. Joyride, Fighter Unleashed. I choose Move because I have seen the tech demos and can clearly see it's potential but so far all Kinect has proven is that Mircosoft can throw lots of money behind it and that developers keep talking about Kinect's potential but don't really know what to do with it.
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