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Submitted by Vegeta9000 1408d ago | news

PlayStation 3 Has Outsold Xbox 360 (NSFW)

Statistics published by top game developer Tose show that with 42 million the total number of PS3s sold globally have exceeded the Xbox 360 by a million units.

The statistics coe by way of a presentation by Tose (a prolific Kyoto-based game developer best known for not being known, as their games as usually credited exclusively to the company outsourcing the work to them, most often Nintendo) at the Kyoto Cross Media Experience 2010, published by Famitsu. (PS3, Xbox 360)

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aaron5829  +   1408d ago | Funny
3..2..1..
FIGHT !
cmrbe  +   1408d ago
I don't know
This is getting boring. Watching x360 fans defend kinetic is alot more fun.
ShinMaster  +   1408d ago
Well, it's nothing really new. That's how it tends to be in Japan.

[edit] Oh never mind. They're talking worldwide numbers.
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MinskyM   1408d ago | Trolling | show
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MinskyM  +   1408d ago | Interesting
It really is amazing when you look back to how we got here:

* Microsoft rushed the Xbox 360 hardware out a year before this gen started in 2005. And a year and a half before the PS3 launched in Europe to try to pad out their installed base like a runner jumping the gun hoping they can beat two faster competitors.

* Sony and Nintendo switched to reporting only actual sales numbers in 2006. Microsoft remains the only company that still tries to pass off shipped numbers as real sales

* Towards the end of the first year of the Xbox 360 a 20 something year old Xbox fan gets banned from the neogaf forums for posting fake sales numbers. He runs off an creates the fake sales numbers site vgchartz. He is able to easily inflate 360 sales numbers thanks to Microsoft's reporting of shipped numbers instead of actual sales. The kid gleefully reports Microsoft and their infamous '10 million' 'sold' number when the actual sales numbers was somewhere in the 7-8 million range. Microsoft floods the retail channel with so many extra 360s to make their PR announcement they end up shipping 0 new 360s for the entire next quarter due to stores have so many unsold units still sitting on the shelves.

* The PS3 ships as the most expensive console in history in 2006. 200 dollars more expensive than the 360.

* The PS3 quickly dumps the 360 into last place in Japan

* The PS3 then dumps the 360 into last place in Europe. Microsoft can't even get their fake sales numbers right for Europe in trying to claim they weren't in last place. Microsoft ends up reporting they 'hit 10 million' two different times months apart

* PS3 software sales top 360 software sales

* PS3 worldwide quarterly sales numbers start outselling the 360 by a huge amount and worldwide installed base of the PS3 is almost past the 360. Major Nelson accidentally uses actual sales numbers. Alan Greenburg scrambles a day later with 360 shipments numbers in attempt at damage control. And the 360 worldwide installed base numbers include the millions and millions of duplicate 360s bought due the RRoD and other hardware defects.

All this while the PS3 is still the launch price of the PS2, 300 dollars. Crazy to think what the PS3 sales will be like when it hits the 200 price where the PS2 exploded in sales. The PS3 probably has another 7 years of sales left. It can easily end up in the 120 to 140 million worldwide installed base range just by selling 15 million consoles a year as it drops through the 200, 150, and finally 100 prices.
ConanOBrien  +   1408d ago
Micro Bikini Oily Dance 2
wins!
MajestieBeast  +   1408d ago
Btw Hitomi Tanaka's bewbs>Ps3>wii>360
cmrbe   1408d ago | Trolling | show
shoddy  +   1408d ago
Don't celabrate yet Sony guy.
MS having a 1mil ban console sales eminating so give it

another month and ps3 will pass xbox globaly not just

NA that count.
DORMIN  +   1408d ago
I've got this sudden urge to google the word hentai

/sarcasm

On topic: Once GT5 hits, it gonna get crazy!
Absolut_Turkey   1408d ago | Trolling | show
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doa766  +   1408d ago
if the numbers are not accurate it doesn't matter, if it's not now then it will happen in a few months

BUT BY NOW IT'S A FACT THAT MICROSOFT WILL END THIS GENERATION IN THE LAST PLACE
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insomnium  +   1408d ago
Great post minsky. bubs up for interesting.
doa766  +   1408d ago
the PIRACY factor
living on a country where the PS2 and the 360 games sold are 100% pirated I can tell you that there's a bigt piracy factor is sales that most people are counting on

the PS2 sold millions and millions of units to people who never bought a game, just like the 360

had the PS3 been hacked soon after hitting the market and for real(jailbreak is very limited) the sales number would've past the 360 at least 2 years ago

there's literally millions of PS2 owners who opted for the 360 only because it's 100% hacked and they never bought a game, and those people are much more than the ones who bought a PS3 just to play blu rays

if you take that into account plus the millions of 360 that were damaged and thrown away, the PS3 userbase is much bigger than 360s
mastiffchild  +   1408d ago
With the RROD/E74 and YLOD variables plus the banned yearly 360 numbers what we really need to know is how many actual working PS360s there are in the wild. I've always thought the number of each actually in circulation must be closer than sales indicated and if this is accurate(which, like all sales data, it won't be) then the difference could be big in PS3's favour-but who knows?
The Lazy One  +   1406d ago
@"Let me ask you a question. How do movies studios keep up with how much money their movies make from ticket sales?"

HAH. they don't. They do the same thing that microsoft and sony do. They call 5 large retailers/theaters and estimate the total sales.

There's still a buttload of theatres that don't even have computers for their tickets.
Masamori Sumimura  +   1408d ago
0__0

I'm pretty sure the xbox360 still has a 800K + Lead on the PS3.
ShinMaster  +   1408d ago
Under 1mil is practically a tie.

From 8 mil to 800k, that's one hell of a fast selling PS3, considering it's launch price and all that.

And even if 360 really was at 45mil, Sony needed to have sold 5mil more PS3s than 360 within a shorter amount of time, to cut the gap from 8mil to 3mil.
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DemiT  +   1408d ago
According to the official Quarterly statements,

Sony has sold 41.6million ps3s, while
MS has sold 44.6m 360s.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
http://www.microsoft.com/in...

Both MS and Sony have officially stated that they report "recorded sales".

This is the truth.
Even if the ps3 fanboys disagree, it is still the truth.
If you don't believe me, then ask me for links.
Better still, do your own homework.
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shoddy  +   1408d ago
nice try but you are right bout xbox is still in the lead.
2 months from now xbox gonna be 3rd place.

I won't make fun of it for being 3rd cause I don't care for sales.
OneSneakyMofo  +   1408d ago
It doesn't make a difference. Gran Turismo 5's coming up. That alone will sell a million+ consoles within a month.

PS3 will surpass the 360 in sales by April 2011. Bookmark my words.
vhero  +   1408d ago
them quarterly statements by MS are numbers shipped (sold to retailers) not numbers sold. We already know they are devious for it.. It clearly say it on the statement.. Sonys numbers however are consoles sold to customers..
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mint royale  +   1408d ago
Sony's numbers are not sold to consumers they are consoles sold. How many people have misinterpreted that 2006 statement by Sony!? They don't report 'sell-through' which would be numbers to consumers but 'sold' which is what they have sold to retailers (the retailers are the ones that buy off Sony!). Before 2006 Sony reported numbers produced. Nothing wrong with that, thats just how they did it. So they reported that they changed from shipped to sold. Simple.

Nintendo have never made any such statement of changing, despite many claims on here, that helps certain posters with their stories. Nintendo have always reported sold to retailers.

Same with MS. Their numbers are not sold to consumer but sold to retailers. The 45 million that Greenburg claimed was not to consumers, as if he would report lower numbers, he always talks about numbers sold to retailers.
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10thnightvolley  +   1408d ago
looooool look at all the ps3 fans agreeing with that article just a site with a number on it... and all those figures FAIL..

ps2 did 140 million plus... FACT. not 120mil

ps3 is about 41 now.

xbox360 is 45mil..

so some anime porn site post numbers and all of a sudden is more credible that major game site and u all rush to agree.. that is sad.!
THunt  +   1407d ago
PS2 is over 150 million according to the latest numbers.

It really is amazing to see just how far vgchartz has been lying about sales numbers.
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zootang  +   1407d ago
You boys are sad, clinging on to that year. The PS3 has outsold the 360 fact!

Years at market 360 vs PS3

2005 vs Not out yet
2006 vs 2006
2007 vs 2007
2008 vs 2008
2009 vs 2009
2010 vs 2010

Now what are them totals again?
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Sony360  +   1407d ago
Actually it's over a million ahead still.
Oner  +   1407d ago
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There are those that make claims with NO FACTS to comment their "opinion"...and then there are those who make statements that are verifiable WITH FACTS to uphold their comments. Here is my proof from the Sony internal reports/documents ~

"Beginning with Q1 FY07, the method or reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed ***from shipments to recorded sales***"

Page 4 ~ http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

Page 1 ~ http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

Nintendo & Sony for YEARS have counted SELL THROUGH (to consumers) for their consoles. While MS has NEVER changed from using SELL IN (to retailers).

This has been PROVEN ad nauseam time and time again. But there are still a few who hold on to misinformed BS because of a biased agenda.
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mint royale  +   1407d ago
Hello Oner.

THe mistake your making is the fact that you think that report means they have changed to sold to consumer. 'Recorded sales' is what they changed to. Who buys off Sony - the retailers! That is where their recorded sales are. Sony used to announce units produced, but now rocorded sales. Not that hard.

OH and please find a link to where Nintendo supposedly changed the way they report in 2006. They have always reported sold to retailers.

MS too report sold to retailers so your right there.

Also Oner you mention sellthrough as being used by Sony. That is sometimes true for little upda but never on these quarterly reports.

Its not a biased agenda if its right :) No doubt I'l be labelled a MS fan even though I don't like the company.

Anyways regards Oner, even though you won't listen to anything I've had to say :)
Oner  +   1407d ago
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My comment below @ #2.1.7 (the last 5 links) already disproves your opinion...again. Plus I still see no "proof" that supports your comments ANYWHERE at all.
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wii ftw  +   1407d ago
I don' think it does end the argument. At 2.1.7 you spend most of it proving that MS reports sold to retailer which everyone agrees with....

Also Major Nelsonhas changed his numbers now but people seem to ignore that... But even so, MS probably had sold around 42 million to consumers as of Septmeber 30th.

However you have not provided any evidence from sony that they changed to consumer on their financial reports so NO you haven't proved anything. Actually read what Sony said they had changed to - recorded sales - NOT to consumers! Sony and any other company for that matter may use sell through but not in the financial reports. You haven't proved that they sell to consumer on these reports because you can't. And please leave sites that also have go tthe wrong end of the stick out of this.

This is all pointless anyway because the 2 consoles have sold in a virtual tie - if you want to see domination that actually matters look at the ps2 or wii.

Also do you want people to find proof of sony saying actually they dont report to consumers? This is a non-subject to them or their rivals because they actually know the truth, they don't have to come out to disprove fanboy misconceptions.
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frostypants  +   1407d ago
Quote, FROM MICROSOFT: "We **shipped** (emphasis added) 2.8 million Xbox 360 consoles during the first quarter of fiscal year 2011, compared with 2.1 million Xbox 360 consoles during the first quarter of fiscal year 2010."

Fiscal year 2011 is through this past September. If you look at their numbers, that "2.8 million SHIPPED" is what they put on their sales chart, that also reflects the 44.5 million total. Translation: Microsoft numbers are SHIPPED, and that applies to the 44.5 million as well...unless they are putting numbers from completely different contexts on the same charts (obviously, they are not).

Further, Sony has explicitly stated that they report SOLD instead of SHIPPED.

@"mint royale", your entire claim assumes that when Sony reported "shipped", they were actually reporting "manufactured". This is of course complete nonsense. A company cannot ship that which has not been ordered by a retailer, thus "shipped" IS retailer purchases. Thus, when Sony made the switch, they indeed were talking about consumer sales.

As of the end of September Sony had SOLD 41.6 million units to CONSUMERS.

In summary, as of the end of September, we know the following:

PS3s sold TO CONSUMERS: 41.6 million
360s sold TO RETAILERS: 44.5 million

This is from their own literature, and the sold vs. shipped reporting methods are demonstrable and demonstrated fact, so please people, stop throwing up that strawman. The stockholders sure as hell know it.

How close the systems truly are in terms of consumer sales is entirely dependent on how much Microsoft is stuffing the channels.

And even then, odds are that the PS3 actually has the bigger INSTALL BASE, given the likely number of 360s that were replacements.

None of this matters from a gaming perspective, of course. It's only interesting as a comparison of how two companies distribute financial information and the means by which they leverage them to compete.
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BigTwitchy  +   1407d ago
Well I like 360 more than PS3. Lets see how many disagrees I get.
mint royale  +   1407d ago
@frostypants

Where did you get that from? SHIPPED to sony was units produced - the untils produced were SHIPPED to their warehouses. When retailers made the order they SOLD them to them. Companies produce what they expect to sell to retailers - thats why we see company projections of future sales etc so they know how much to produce.

Your misunderstanding comes from a different idea of what shipped and sold is. To us shipped = retailers, sold = consumers. However to compamnies - shipped = units produced for their warehouses, sold = their sales to retailers - unit sales.

Sony have never said they mean consumer sales in their financial reports. Simple.

I agree that MS figures are retailers thoguh.
Hideo_Kojima  +   1407d ago
Its not 3..2..1.. FIGHT!
Its 3..2..1.. FINISHED!
The Lazy One  +   1407d ago
mint royal is right.

Seriously, how would any company track 40+million units sold to consumers? They'd have to gather information from hundreds of thousands of retailers internationally to get an accurate number. A good number of retailers don't even have a good way to report their inventory. They'd have to employ a team of people just to compile all that data, which is useless to their investors, and then have a team of lawyers to figure out how to collect that data for each region.

Nobody tracks sales to consumers because it's just stupidly difficult and doesn't provide any useful information to anyone except internet trolls. Both use estimates (similar to what NPD does but internal) by using an algorithm that calculates based off of several large retailers.
xAlmostPro  +   1407d ago
good news for sony xD

and as for the 360 having sold 45+ million.. those numbers are based on 'shipped to' i do belive..last i heard anyway

these numbers are probably more accurate, im not saying there exact but yeah
n4gno  +   1407d ago
@bigtwitchy, in a perfect world, where quality, value, variety, inovation are the key, you'll probably have 99% disagree.
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Patrick  +   1407d ago
Geez, and I thought this was settled.
For those that keep saying stupid things like "How can Sony know how many PS3 have been sold to people?" let me tell you about little things called COMPUTERS. Each item in a store has a particular bar code on it that is just for that product and it identifies what it is and how much it cost. They also have these "computer" things that keep tally of what is sold and what is not, this data gives the retailers such as Walmart an idea of what is selling and what is not to know what they need to order more of and what they dont, what they need to push more and what they dont, where they need to place the items that sell well and so on. Now, in the old days they had to take inventory by simply going thru the whole store and counting what they had and what they didnt, but now days the "computers" mostly keep up with that data. Most stores (like Walmart) can even tell you if you bought a larger item (PS3) at their store or not.
They share this info with manufacturers (Sony) so they know how well a particular product (PS3) is doing. Come on guys, is 2010.. get with the tech, its really very simple (computers do all the work and all you have to do is READ the data)
(oh and most ALL retailers have computer systems now days, and if they dont, you can be sure they are not selling things like PS3's.)
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DMason  +   1407d ago
MS has a 4 million unit lead on the PS3. Where did these bogus numbers come from even?
DMason  +   1407d ago
@Vhero
Youre incorrect. Both companies use units shipped, not sold. Not even Sony. Sony's Move numbers were also shipped to retailer numbers. They got caught up in that lie just 2 weeks ago, remember?
The Lazy One  +   1407d ago
@Patrick:

you didn't read my post. There are computers, but not every company has it's inventory on a network, let alone a network connected to the internet that they're willing to share with another company.

There are thousands of small retailers that sell millions of systems that would just be a waste of time for sony to track down.

For sony to accurately track sales to consumers they would have to get a hold of the information for every single retailer. It would take them months just to work through the paperwork to get the inventory for walmart or best buy and that's assuming walmart and best buy track the lifetime sales of products rather than their current inventory and the rate at which they are selling.
ShinMaster  +   1407d ago
Fact is, PS3 sells faster.
To have sold 5 million more than 360 within the same amount of time in order to cut the gap from 8mil to 3mil (or 1mil according to this article) proves so.
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Patrick  +   1407d ago
The Lazy One
Oh ok.. So they can get Sony the "How many PS3's we need for stock" info, but not the "How many PS3's we sold" info? .... oh.. ok. That makes.. perfect.. sen... ok no thats bad logic. I disagree. Give me the names of some "small" retailers that actually sell PS3's, cause I cant think of a one. Also, Sony doesnt necessarily have to get the info directly from the store (although I am sure they do, reported to Sony probably when ordering more) but Sony could estimate how many sold by how many more a store orders, Say Walmart can stock 50 PS3's and sells 25 so they order 25 more. Sony would know this and could assume they sold 25. But like I said, The stores report it to Sony. And what kind of mom and pop store actually sells a $300 or more computer gaming system but doesnt have a way to report it to the place they ordered them from? Come on, really?
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Blitzed  +   1407d ago
@mint royale
I have never seen someone contradict themselves so many times in one thread. So, by your statement, when MS and Sony are reporting units 'shipped', its is to their warehouse? Then you go on to write 'I agree that MS figures are retailers thoguh.' So which is it, shipped to retailers or shipped to their warehouse?! So when Sony says 'sold' they mean 'shipped' to retailers and when they say 'shipped' they mean to a warehouse. However, when MS says 'shipped' it's to retailers?! Give your head a shake dude, you are running in circles.
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Dee_91  +   1407d ago
outselling doesent mean more sold people
when ps3 came out it was what .. 5mill behind ? ( just guessing)
iono how much its behind now really dnt care
but my point is its selling faster than the xbox 360
colombiankilla01  +   1407d ago
I dont see whats the point of this news!!! Even if xbox has 2 Million over Sony, they have over 10 Million in the garbage! does people even buy xbox anymore, they are ether replacement units or being used as heaters in Alaska!!!
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units  +   1407d ago
I'm pretty sure the xbox360 still has a 800K
try 3 million
PostApocalyptic  +   1407d ago
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I disagree. I think it's more like 810K lead on the PS3. I was downtown and found 10K 360s just sitting there in a wearhouse collecting dust and a M$ truck driving off into the darkness.

:P
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The Lazy One  +   1407d ago
@Patrick: where I used to live (menomonie WI) there was a video game store that sold new and used games that was a mom and pop store that doesn't even have a website. Where I live now there are a bunch within 20 miles. Gametech, Record Head, King and Son's Video Games, Disc Go Round, Play N Trade, and a couple Mega Media Exchanges.

Believe it or not there are more stores than walmart, bestbuy, and target in existence.
Patrick  +   1407d ago
The Lazy One
Ok so I found 4 out of the 6 stores you named that had websites, just google searching their names. I bet they all have one but the other two are not as straight forward adding a .com to their names. I also bet they all have a way to report their PS3 sales to Sony just like they have a way to ORDER PS3's from Sony.. give it up.. its the age of information. Your out of excuses, you know, unless their cash register dings and plastic numbers pop up into a window on the top...
The Lazy One  +   1407d ago
@patrick: and who's going to compile the information from these thousands of retailers? How are you going to collect it? You think every retailer is going to give sony access to it's inventory? What's the motivation for the companies to report anything? Is sony going to give them a discount for reporting their sales? Who's going to verify the numbers? What happens if one of the retailers reports more or less sold than are actually sold? What happens if a retailer accidentally hits an extra 0 or two? Why does sony even want to know how many it's selling to consumers? You think their investors care about money sony never sees?

Believe what you want for all I care, but no company reports that way because it's useless information that would cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars to compile accurately. Not to mention many large retailers won't even disclose their product sales (Walmart for example).

Until you answer the questions above, I will assume you admit defeat whether or not you want to accept it.
SaberEdge  +   1407d ago
The Lazy One, DMason and mint royale know what they are talking about. Anybody disagreeing with them is simply ignorant. All 3 console makers report the number of consoles sold to retail. They do not have the means or motive to uncover how many have been sold to individual customers.
Patrick  +   1406d ago
the Lazy One
You act like this info is so hard to keep up with but companies do it EVERYDAY, they keep up with info from thousands of people with accounts, like credit card companies and banks do, how do they do it, oh my gosh it must not be possible, its all a sham, the banks and credit card companies must just make it up, we are all being screwed... ahhhhhh...lol
Let me ask you a question. How do movies studios keep up with how much money their movies make from ticket sales? who's going to compile the information from these thousands of theaters? How are you going to collect it? You think every theater is going to give studios access to it's ticket sales? What's the motivation for theaters to report anything? Are the studios going to give them a discount for reporting their ticket sales? Who's going to verify the numbers? What happens if one of the theaters reports more or less sold than are actually sold? What happens if a theater accidentally hits an extra 0 or two?

Now your just pulling stupid questions out of your backside. Fact is this info isnt hard to keep up with being a BIG business like Sony, retailers arent as stupid as you try to make them out, and this day and age computers .. well, compute alot of info for us.

Oh and give up on this, "You must answer all my questions or your WRONG" crap. Im too old to play games with a little kid." grow up and get a job and youll see that the worlds a big amazing place where all kind of info can be found. I'm out.
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dragunrising  +   1408d ago
Whats really sad is all the Playstation kiddies clapping their hands in glee because of a number. Good to hear that sales are oh so important. Hypocrates much? The bottom line is that it never mattered how much either console sold. As long as everyone gets to play their console of choice, everyone should be happy.

Food for thought: Xbox 360 has routinely outsold the PS3 since the release of the Xbox 360 S worldwide. The launch of Kinect will surely keep it in the lead.

Edit
As already mentioned, the numbers are incorrect anyway. Its funny that now that the PS3 is close numbers wise the most rabid fanboys are claiming the x360 is doomed. This is faulty logic in so many ways. As long as people are buying the console in the millions and games in the tens of millions AND MS is making a profit, its not a fail. Is the PS2 still a successful console "today" even though most publishers discontinued to make games for it? Yes. When the next generation of consoles come out, they will be vastly dwarfed by the current gen; will they be a failure until they're superceded? No.

How about this tidbit: Call of Duty: Black Ops on the xbox 360 will sell 50% more than the PS3 version. Is the PS3 full of fail also?
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gaden_malak  +   1408d ago
" Xbox 360 has routinely outsold the PS3 since the release of the Xbox 360 S worldwide"

Yet the gap has shrunk...Might want to taste your thought food, it seems a bit stale.
supremacy  +   1408d ago
And..where do you leave
Granturismo 5?

And the rest of ps3 exclusives coming before and after gears of war 3?

I mean... ps3 owners (the way I see it) will for the most part, be playing new games, exclusive games at that in..say...

Littlebigplanet 2
Infamous 2
Motorstorm apocolypse
Killzone 3
Twisted metal
Resistance 3
Ratchet and clank all 4 one
Starhawk
Socom 4 special forces
Mlb 2011
Agent
The agency
Dc universe

And many more.. Also i am sure a few psn updates are coming as well so yeah..
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Cloudberry  +   1408d ago
^^^
.
Also...

YAKUZA 4, in March 15th 2011.
MeatPopsicle  +   1408d ago
"And many more.."

The Last Guardian
ICO/Shadow of the Colossus Remaster
Da One  +   1407d ago
Here's some more
Disgaea 4
Ar Tonelico Quoga
White Knight Chronicles
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Nathaniel_Drake  +   1407d ago
The sad part is PS3 has the sales and the games now, so the 360 only has cross game chat, awesome.

Honestly the 360 really needs to release more games for the system, it's really just hanging on console content

Edit: oh yeah you forgot Sly Cooper HD collection
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xAlmostPro  +   1407d ago
50% more you think so? LOL and the PC will sell more than the 360 ;) anything to help absorb the damage of your beloved console being outsold..
snp  +   1407d ago
Xbox 360 has routinely outsold the PS3 since the release of the Xbox 360 S worldwide.
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Do you have numbers on that? Let's say Germany, France, Italy, Spain and Japan...

Start with those ~400 million people, and then break it down a little further...

I don't really care which system is at where, frankly, and agree with your basic point that both of them are doing fine regardless which is a little ahead (and people get a bit silly pretending that isn't the case) - but i find this claim you've made in the quoted bit above, which i see repeated consistently (by various people) in these type of discussions, quite strange.

Is the sole source of this disinformation (so it seems..) that awful VGChartz, or - with the exception of the odd bit of good news in Australia or the UK (these are the only two i've ever seen anyone 'try' to provide information on - outside the US) - do you have something substantial to back up this presumption; this 'routine outselling of the PS3 worldwide since the Xbox360 S' that's being declaimed as fact...?

Because, i mean it quite earnestly, i've never actually seen anything to back up that claim (regardless how boldly it's always stated). And virtually all the reports on these countries outside the US individually show the opposite (both hardware and software - in some cases XBox360 struggles to get one or two games on many of these population large countries top 20 games lists). And the quarterlies - even presuming they both do announce shipped (i have no idea and have no interest in getting into that debate) - show the PS3 selling an extra 800k last quarter...

I'm just not sure where this presumption of the Xbox360 S outselling the PS3 'worldwide' (as opposed to in the US, or in bits of the UK or Oceania or something) comes from...
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chidori soukou  +   1408d ago
reason why ps3 beat the 360 in salles
Ps3 games will donimated in 2011 like resistance 3, killzone 3 , uncharted 3, gran turismo 5, infamous 2, twisted metal 2, Agent, and mass effect 2. Oh yeah mass effect 2 steal 360 exclusive. So now ps3 take mass effect 2. And halo reach is struggly compared to halo 3. I think resistance 3, gran turismo 5 and uncharted 2 will ousold halo reach.
BubloZX  +   1407d ago
take uncharted 3 down
but for the most part your right
dtalon3  +   1407d ago
HALO REACH IS STRUGGLY? lol what are you dumb?

Funny to see how many Ps3 fanboys bashed Mass effect when it was exclusive but as soon as they can get their greasy number counting fingers on it they smear it in 360 owners faces.

if the ps3 was so far back in sales and was still able to make it...even if god forbid *gasp* playstation does sell 100k more than the 360...who FUCKING CARES? M$ is not going out of business because ps3 got the lead.

oh hey btw why don't ps3 owners buy games? the store I work at has over 700 pre orders for COD:black ops on the 360 and less than 400 for ps3...way to widen the gap blu ray owners.

I own both systems and will enjoy whatever games come my way for them. This petty I sold more than you did shit is soooooo played out. is M$ or sony gonna come give you a handjob if you fight harder for em? no? didn't think so.
CryofSilence  +   1407d ago
dtalon3
Your use of CoD:BO preorders as an analogy fails as it is subjective and unverifiable, nor is it even remotely global. Besides, the majority of PS3 owners I know, including myself, don't want to buy CoD. Your argument would be less frail if you had posted official console-game attachment numbers -- whichever way they may be.
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LOOK_AT_THIS_I  +   1407d ago
@dtalon3
you come off sounding as a fanboy for xbox talking about sales and then bitch about it later in your post. I dont have to buy brand new games every single release as I have the option to rent/buy used due to my blu ray discs not scratching and having the option of multiple games to choose from.

How many copies of xbox/old ps2 games did people have to purchase due to wear and tear, scratches, etc... I know I had to repurchase a few copies of socom last gen due to scratches.

as far as cod pre-orders being less on the ps3 could contribute to the fact that there are more than 2 games (halo/gears) besides multiplats to choose from rather than on the other console, or perhaps the fact that activision shows a bit too much favoritism to one console and treat their customers like crap. Why the hell would anybody with a clue support bad customer treatment.
baodeus  +   1407d ago
http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

How about interpreting this:

"Beginning w/ Q1 FYO&, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales". Bottom of page 6 (link above). (under unit sell).

So does it say sell to actual customers or just renaming production shipments (which are shipment to retailers) to just sales?

Where do people get the sales to actual customers from?

@Cryosilence:

"Besides, the majority of PS3 owners I know, including myself, don't want to buy CoD. That is true for you, but the Majority of PS3 owners (not you or people that you know, which i doubt isn't that many) think otherwise (Just look at the numbers of CoD sold on Ps3 compare to other games right now).
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PS360fanboy  +   1408d ago
This would be great except...
...it couldn't be farther from the truth. It's completely inconceivable if you mind that last week the XBox 360 was 4 million ahead.
showtimefolks  +   1407d ago
last week aron greenburg spoke
that's why they were ahead now sony is deal with it lmao

i am sorry just kidding funny thing is how xbox360/ps3 fans argue yet wii has the lead why are we fighting for 2nd position lol
Solid_Snakeps3   1408d ago | Trolling | show
tinybigman  +   1408d ago
When my friend sent me this article at work I told him this full cause a full scale war.
zeddy  +   1408d ago
the nsfw in this headline is what made everyone click it.
avengers1978   1408d ago | Trolling | show
wissam  +   1408d ago
And the winner is.....
yourfather  +   1407d ago
PlayStation 2: 120,000,000

huh?what the hell of Tose,are they burned around 25million PS2?
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syanara  +   1407d ago
hey
this fight is NSFW LOL i thought it sounded funny on the article!
Mike134nl  +   1407d ago
In a perfect world everybody would own both consoles and the number would always be a tie. And nobody would have too fight over something as trivial as which big company sold the most.
n4f  +   1407d ago
i dont care all i did is cliking on the nsfw
tacosRcool  +   1407d ago
@ cmrbe
bubbles for you!
Scary69  +   1407d ago
Sony REJOICE!!! :-O
showtimefolks  +   1407d ago
here we go with the sales again
i am a ps3 fan i know for a fact by the time its all set and done ps3 will have more sales than wii/xbox360. That was perdicted by people who do NPD

wii is slowing down we already see that halo reach came and gone so what's next gears 3 oh that's not gonna sell new systems.

anyone who think MS is gonna stick with 360 for another 4-5 years is just plain stupid it doesn't make sense for them business wise

what i do care about is GAMES and that's why i choose playstation brand over any other
timmyrulz  +   1407d ago
PS3 has outsold the 360?

Haaaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaa haaaa haaa

Have i fallen asleep and woken up on April fools day?
jden28  +   1407d ago
OWN A BUSINESS?!!!!!!!
GOOD GOD PEOPLE...TAKE A BUSINESSE CLASS OR SOMETHING. Please stop acting like your wishes, hopes, dreams, and opinions are facts they are not and facts are easily proven. Sony DOES NOT RECORD SOLD THROUGH TO YOU they can not do that. They have no idea how many units gamestop, walmart, or best buy are warehousing or have in stores period. You are not sony's direct customer...They are a manufacturer and they sell wholesale to retailers who in turn sell to you. Recorded sales simply means they no longer count the units that have been manufactured but are being warehoused until time of puchase. Do you all know what a Manufacturer to wholesaler to retailer to you mean? Now Microsoft reports both shipped and sold at different times this has always been a problem and seems confusing. It's also how they achieved there 10 million sold before ps3 shipped target... Basically at that time they were recording only shipped numbers and its why they seemed to have sold fewer consoles in 2006 than ps3 because they'de "Stuffed" the retail channel with millions of extra units that it took retailers months to sell Which is why later in 2008 they begain reporting sold to retailers numbers.
MattyF  +   1408d ago
MS revealed their stats not long ago and they stated over 45 million units sold. Sony also revealed their total sales figures and it was 41.6. So this information isn't accurate.

MS Figures: http://n4g.com/news/637714/...

Sony: http://n4g.com/news/635907/...
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All_4_One  +   1408d ago
No, that`s false. Greenburg wasn`t on record, and can twist and spin the numbers any way he likes.

The official numbers are:

PS3: 41.6
360: 44.5
MattyF  +   1408d ago
Regardless of .5mill units, it's still a far cry from the numbers given in this report spotting the 360 over 3 million fewer units than officially revealed.
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GTmonster  +   1408d ago
you
just wanted to make this for examiner and get hits
DemiT  +   1408d ago
@ All_4_one

No, that's false.
The official numbers actually are
ps3: 41.6
360: 44.6

People keep repeating that Ms reported 44.5 sold when in fact, they reported 44.6.
Pay attention people... this is how FUD is born!

edit:
I just gotta laugh at all the weak fanboys that disagree with facts:
http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
http://www.microsoft.com/in...
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MURRKERD  +   1408d ago
45mil sold to RETAILERS
it clearly states in their financial report......FACT
strickers  +   1408d ago
I thought this site was PS3 dominated and yet you get 29 disagrees and 5 agrees(I'll add mine in a sec)for reporting the figures from the actual financials.Idiots.
StanLee  +   1408d ago
I applaud all you guys who posted the official figures reported by both companies but when did facts ever matter at n4g.com; or common sense for that matter?
Oner  +   1407d ago
...
@ Murrkerd ~ Correct.

Using MS's own words, on their own reports, it shows they use "Sell In/Sold to Retailer". Here is the proof ~

If you go here ~ http://www.microsoft.com/in...

under "Key Performance Indicators (KPI)" it states 2.8 Million Units were "sold" during the first quarter of fiscal year 2011

But yet on the same page here ~ http://www.microsoft.com/in...

if you select the "Performance" Link it specifically states this

"We shipped 2.8 Million Xbox 360 consoles during the first quarter of fiscal year 2011"

This confirms MS uses the LTD Xbox 360 unit "sales" of 44.6 (same as the previous investor amount news) as "Sell In" or "Sold to Retailer" for their total amount calculations of the 360. Which would lead one to believe the "slip up" by Major Nelson about there being 42 Million 360's sold around the world is actually what is "Sell Through (to consumers)"

And if you go up to my #1.2.11 comment above I show the proof where Sony states they changed FROM shipped (Sell In) to sold (Sell Through) along with more supportive factual confirmation here ~

http://www.psu.com/PlayStat...

http://kotaku.com/357883/ps...

http://kotaku.com/5157636/s...

http://www.edge-online.com/...

http://spong.com/article/19...
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xAlmostPro  +   1407d ago
your both wrong the 44.5 million were calculated by SHIPPED to

sony and nintendo calculate sales by SOLD TO(which is based on how many units are purchased FROM retailers, not shipped to them)..

So although this article is not 100% correct its far closer to the factual sales than what you guys are stating..

Its more around 360 42million, ps3 41.2 million..
ShinMaster  +   1408d ago
Umm Greenburg says many things
But in that same article that you showed, Major Nelso says:
"Later that day, Major Nelson posted on his site that 42 million Xbox 360 consoles were sold"

Lol, something tells me they don't know their own numbers and got lost counting the refurbs and re-sold 360s.
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MattyF  +   1408d ago
Yeah, and if you continue to read it, you'll notice he later revised it to 45 million units. Nelson posted incorrect information with the 42 million and later revised it to 45 million.
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-Mezzo-  +   1408d ago
@MattyF
Is funny how you believe that Major Nelson was wrong & GreenBurg wasn't.
ShinMaster  +   1408d ago
I think they came to a mutual agreement.
Greenburg is a face for Microsoft and Xbox. So better Nelson be wrong than Greenburg.

And even if 360 really was at 45mil, Sony needed to have sold 5 mil more PS3s than 360 within a shorter amount of time, to cut the gap from 8mil to 3mil.
Which is impressive, imo.
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gaden_malak  +   1408d ago
Yeah I'd take Nelson over Greenburg.
nickjkl  +   1408d ago
theirs something about presenting numbers

having the comptetitor release their numbers

and then changing your numbers all together
Nathaniel_Drake  +   1407d ago
Damn, it's shipped why is that hard for people. MS sold to stores or shipped. Last time I checked it was a 400,000 unit different with the 360 leading, so I don't know where Famitsu got their numbers
All_4_One  +   1408d ago
Eh, I`ll go by the official numbers, which puts the PS3 behind the 360 by 2.9 million units.

It`s not like it matters, if the trend continues the way it has been it won`t be much longer before the PS3 pulls ahead of the 360.
DemiT  +   1408d ago
What's really funny is that the official numbers that you quote are wrong.

Here's what the actual numbers are:
ps3: 41.6
360: 44.6

That leaves the 360 ahead by 3.0 million.
http://www.microsoft.com/in...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
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ThatIrishGamer  +   1408d ago
For the third time
PS3 - sold to CUSTOMERS.

XBOX360 - sold to RETAILERS.

I'm a retailer and we have 40+ XBOXES in stock. Multiply all those by the amount of RETAILERS on earth and take that away from the figure you've given and that is the amount sold to CUSTOMERS.
mint royale  +   1408d ago
For the millionth time. Sony have never said they have reported sold to consumers on their financial reports. Read the report again if you don't understand. They announced they changed from shipped to units sold. Units sold to Sony is sold to retailers as the retailers buy off them. SOny used to report units produced (shipped).

Although now the sales are so clse the ps3 must have an actual bigger userbase, factoring in the effects of RROD.
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darkride66  +   1407d ago
But mint, how do you explain these?
http://www.psu.com/PlayStat...

http://kotaku.com/357883/ps...

http://kotaku.com/5157636/s...

http://spong.com/article/19...

"One key factor to remember about these figures are that they do not count for consoles shipped. Sony has always had a strong belief and following of only counting actual consoles sold to their official numbers."

"...those who like to dabble in the odd bit of conjecture and speculation should note that it's been Sony policy for a while now to count "sold" as sold, not shipped."

"Looking at the number, it's important to note that Sony - unlike many other companies - counts actual sales, not just units shipped to retail."

And from Sony themselves.
"We count installed base differently to (SCEE). We count the number of units in the hands of consumers."

"We calculate our install base by 'sell through' and have done for the last four years I believe", we asked for a little additional clarification...

"We classify 'sell through' as the number of units consumers have actually purchased from retail. 'Sell in' is the number of units we've sold to retail."

There's no room for confusion here, no misinterpretation.
Sony reports sold to customer.

(thanks to Morganfell for the links)
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frostypants  +   1407d ago
@mint royale
"SOny used to report units produced (shipped). "

Units produced and units shipped are not even remotely the same thing.
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beardpapa  +   1407d ago
mint your reasoning is so dumb

"Units sold to Sony is sold to retailers as the retailers buy off them. SOny used to report units produced (shipped).
"

okay if they used to report shipped, then where the hell were they shipping the units to? santa claus?

obviously shipped means shipped to retailers and that obviously means sold to retailers. They don't get them for free you know. So if Sony "used" to report shipped numbers and now sold, they're obviously reporting a different statistic. Gee, what other number could they possibly use? Sold to consumers or sold to tooth fairy?
Sarcasm  +   1408d ago
For the millionth time, do people not understand 1 year head start in U.S. and 1.5 years head start in EU? Which was an 8-10 million lead when the PS3 launched, now even if it's 3 million behind, simple math tells us that the PS3 has caught up by 5 million which tells us it has been outselling the 360 year over year worldwide.
Kon_Artist  +   1407d ago
lol
360 had a one year start. remember guys.
-GoldenTimeLover-  +   1408d ago
1100+ degrees in just a few hours.
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10thnightvolley  +   1408d ago
exactly... just goes to show with this kinect frenzy going about ps3 fan will agree with this from a pathetic website which has not facts and all its numbers wrong.. talk about desperation .loooool
mike9077  +   1408d ago
does it really matter what system sells better?
cmrbe  +   1408d ago
Yes it does
You see. The more consoles are sold the better the games i play will become. Last gen when the PS2 sold more than 100 million it made playing games like GOW much better.
jack_burt0n  +   1408d ago
yeah but it sort of does this gen, the more titles lead on ps3 the better the outcome for ps3 only gamers.

so yeah there is a gaming benefit to having a bigger platform.
Nathaniel_Drake  +   1407d ago
Yes it gives results which are very important to investors, which have influence on shutting down a gaming division. It also puts a fire under a company's butt to step up and bring out more games
Consoldtobots  +   1407d ago
not to mention it will finally shut the mouths of the worst thing to ever happen to console gaming.... 360 fanboys.
KratosGirI  +   1408d ago
Congrats to Sony!
MajestieBeast  +   1408d ago
Simple the numbers nelson gave were sold numbers the numbers greenturd gave were fiction. Is it really that hard to understand i mean it isnt the first time microsoft has lied about sales figures or faulty hardware.
GTmonster   1408d ago | Trolling | show
Call_me_Ishmael  +   1408d ago
its not really big news,we all knew this was coming
Jawmuncher  +   1408d ago
God Damn the fanboyism is horrible here.
Who cares which one sells better there both great systems that have their pros as well as their cons.
BeAGamer  +   1408d ago
in my opinion, the PS3's pros far exceed that of the 360's.
Nathaniel_Drake  +   1407d ago
I agree, "GAMES" being the important attraction
Canas2010  +   1407d ago
And it continues.....
KratosGirI  +   1408d ago
For those who care:

In one of the pictures, it shows that the PS2 sold 120 million units while the DS sold 132 million units.

Does this mean this is also correct?
MeatPopsicle  +   1408d ago
PS2 is over 150 million worldwide in sales. It is almost outselling the 360 in 2010.
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Nathaniel_Drake  +   1407d ago
Yeah, that I don't understand they are at 150 million
Newtype  +   1408d ago
Man....people use Sankakucomplex a lot for some reason....went from Manga news to Video game news....
BornToKill  +   1408d ago
"It's getting hot in here." Nelly.
ClownBelt   1408d ago | Trolling | show
Balt  +   1408d ago
Not yet but it will. Hell, if Sony would've released one big game this holiday they could've done it. They thought it'd be better that we had nothing new to play other than the waiting game for the games they did push back.

Ps3 will over take xbox 360 around May, and that is when the next price drop will hit too.

And when Sony outsells the box you all will know it. Sony will be pounding their chest themselves. Not some offbeat website.
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TekoIie  +   1408d ago
Seriusly dude you need to stop moaning about sony not releasing a holiday game since in your past comments on other topics you have clearly pointed out that you dont like Racing, RPG, shooters and MMO's of any kind which leave only RTS so GO BUY A GOD DAMN PC AND STOP WASTING YOUR LIFE ON THE INTERNET!
Canas2010  +   1407d ago
There is still hope for GT5!
Jazz4108  +   1407d ago
Why would anyone think sony could record sales to consumers number one and then number2 they would also be giving a lower number then the competition by saying sold to consumers when common sense tells you that sony would only report sold to retailers not consumers. Anythinhg else just does not make sense.
Master of Unlocking   1408d ago | Immature | show
Grown Folks Talk  +   1408d ago
I swear I've always seen here
that sales don't matter. I bet they will now all of a sudden.
The Iron Sheik  +   1408d ago
No they still don't, but it will be fun to see the 360 sales fanboys eat some crow.
Absolut_Turkey   1408d ago | Trolling | show
Grown Folks Talk  +   1408d ago
Turkey,
i'm pretty sure it's mostly been the Sony side saying sales don't matter seeing as how they've been behind the entire time. While I agree sales don't = quality, the hypocrisy I see on this site everyday still makes me chuckle.
visualb  +   1407d ago
they don't
they only mattered to 360 fans, as PS3 fans tout "teh exclusives" and "teh graphics"

now however, with the gap closing...god knows what 360 fans will brag about...multi-plat graphics? kinect?

running out of crap to spew...and PS3 fans are...growing in crap =P the shit shifts from one side to the other =|
frostypants  +   1407d ago
Do they matter? No. We still get our games.

Is it fun to discuss? Sure.

I own both systems, btw. But it's clear Sony has outperformed Microsoft ever since the PS3 launch. They're clearly WELL inside the 1 year head start the 360 got.
Sackdude  +   1408d ago
Congrats to Sony!
Well PS3 has been outselling 360 in last 3 years. so it is obvious its gonna outsell the 360.
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Paracelsus  +   1408d ago
Huh

Greenberg was probably referring to the end of October when he said 45 mln, not at the Q2 data, which means that if Sony said the same thing they would probably be well past 42 mln now.
SilverSlug  +   1408d ago
I doubt
Microsoft sold 4 million units in a month. (Q2 ended in Sept)
mint royale  +   1408d ago
No but they may have sold 1 million considering they were at 44.6 end of sept and Greenburg would have been referring to end of october figures. Both figures of which would be retail sales. Some people really need to check their facts before they try and come across clever.
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MajestieBeast  +   1408d ago
Also love how the 360fanboys from n4g invaded sankaku some of the comments are so 2007 omg 42mil ppl are watching bluray while 41 are playing games did i just end up in 2007 again
damn you time traveling ps3 DAMN YOU!
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xg-ei8ht  +   1408d ago
Tis the season the be merry.

That's my name.

No sh%t

(national lampoons christmas)

360 fans run for cover, ban hammer is coming.
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Master of Unlocking  +   1408d ago
Strange. How come when a "VaguelyGuessed Chartz" article reporting how the Xbox360 supposedly outsold the PS3 x week, y month, or z year, you have a flurry of websites playing parrots and a good dozen alternate sources at the top of the N4G thread...yet in this case there's only ONE alternate source???

This is exactly how all the lies and the F.U.D. have been possible during the last years.
Thank you "professional gaming journalism". Really, bravo.

...1 ...
Kran  +   1408d ago
Wow. People are so desperate for the PS3 to beat the 360 they come up with fake news. This is not true. Xbox 360 is 4 million ahead still.
BubloZX  +   1407d ago
No its not
the 360 is at most 2.5 million ahead.
Jigsaw-  +   1407d ago
you're in denial,it's only ahead by 2.9 million.
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ChilliDemon  +   1408d ago
Why it matters to me
Objectively, the relative lifetime sales figures between the two consoles in question does matter.
However, the self-congratulatory gloating I have suffered from 360-owning friends, and their derision at my PS3 makes me care. I won't return the favour now that the tide is turning - I will just get on with enjoying my console of choice.
Of course we will see many 360 owners decrying that the figures are wrong, or that they don't matter .... but THEY have used these as some kind of justification for so long now. It's their bed - they should lay in it
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