Renowned US games designer American McGee has spoken out in a forthcoming interview with CVG, to lambast Microsoft and Sony as 'focused on money' before going on to describe Nintendo's Wii as the only true next-generation console.
it`s just another gamecube with a different controller.
...the Wii is cool and all, but I love my 360... and every one is allowed their own opinion... but the Wii is innovative, not next-gen.
its not a GC, if so then xbox360 is just a upgraded XBOX en Ps3 is a upgraded Ps2
Im looking forward to buy a Wii, i wonder if the wii will have online features maybe - maybe not.
"next-gen" can be interpreted more than one way. i think in this articles case, you're getting a new experience in gaming that can be considered next-gen.
everyones talking about who has the best graphics card, processor, etc., but failed to notice that they're not getting a whole new gaming experience. just the same old style of gameplay, but with pretty graphics.
where these other consoles lack in innovation, it gaines in other factors such as XBL for MS and the new Eyetoy potentials for Sony.
i partially agree with this article, because i wouldn't say it's the ONLY TRUE next-gen console.
This guy only lends credence to what I and many others think, that you're paying $250 for a new control scheme. Yes, you're getting a console, but you're not getting anything that is much more powerful than an Xbox, which is 5 years old. So you're essentially getting a 5 year old console with a prettier design, and a new control scheme for $250. Yes the gameplay may be revolutionary, but this, in my view, is Nintendo's way of gouging the pockets of gamers by releasing a system that they could have released as an expansion for the Gamecube. They do the same thing with the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, Gameboy Advance SP, Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, etc. They're very much like Apple is with releasing a new Ipod every 6 months that offers only slight changes, in my opinion.
Welly well well, couldn’t Microsoft or Sony just release a screw driver and new gpus for xbox or ps1? PS3 and X360 are just graphical / component upgrades. There’s nothing next gen about them except that they can look great on an HD TV set.
There’s nothing revolutionary about x360 or Ps3. They’re both just upgraded consoles. In my opinion MS and Sony could’ve just released component upgrades with a manual how to install them. Less money spent, more money earned and everyone’s happy. No?
So what that the Wii is comparable to current gen consoles? So what? Are you buying a console for games or graphics? So far no game play has been shown for the PS3 and games on the x360 are good enough but we’ve yet to see true graphical potential.
Anyone who says right now they want to buy the PS3 isn’t buying it for the games. Titles’ve been released but not one game footage was ever shown. For all we know, the games will look amazingly vivid but will play like sh!t. All you have going for the PS3 right now are the “graphics.” Which we’ve yet to see.
For the wii you have above average graphics with an excellent game play mechanics. For 360 you have excellent graphics with above average game play mechanics. For ps3 you have nothing right now. Just speculation. Well, for ps3 you might have excellent graphics with above average game play mechanics. The controller hasn’t changed. 6 degree… hahahaha… isn’t that like, “to play the wii you have to move your hands around and it will get very tiresome and very boring!” hahaha. Yeah… when it’s a Nintendo product it’s rubbish when Sony mimics it… it’s genius :o
Go Sony! Show us some more CGI "game play" movies in Leipzig and more advertisements! We all know true game play movies will be at the TGS :o
But being serious now... I hope Sony won't dissapoint a lot of gamers with their PS3. I wish them best of luck.
that the wii wiil mirror the sales of the DS and become EXTREMELY successfull!!!
Listen all of them have the samething really. Just little changes here and there. PS3 Blu-ray the only diffrence, Xbox360 HD-DVD, Nintendo Wii there controler. Thats what makes them diffrent. Because other then that they all have ON-line play, They all have better graphices, well xbox and ps have the best graphix to offer but graphix wise those to console are the same. while nintendo has slightly better graphices then there old console. So don't beat Nintendo down we need them there controler models always been revolutionize to us and every othe console will be using there idea in the next 5 years. Believe me that always happens.
Wii:: 5 year old console with new controller
But that's not why it'll get third place again. It's the horrible kiddy game imagine nintendo's developed for the last 10 years. Sure mario and yoshi were great when I was ten but their game line up is a joke for the 15-30 demographic. The remote CAN'T offer precision on screen because of the relation ratio of movement so FPS and sports games are all dulled down. Look at the zelda demo, it showed the character casting a 4 inch circle reticle on the screen for shooting stuff.
The wii is a joke as far as a serious console. It's hype is already dissolved, but fanboys insist it'll be the bomb. Well it will be, BOOM its gone.
Isn't like auto-aim on ps and xbox titles? Much challenge there. Press the button and pull the trigger. :o. What about FPS titles? Hah. If the AI was anything like the ai on pc titles where speed matters... i'm pretty damn sure consoles wouldn't get far introducing FPS genere.
Get your head out of your ass. All consoles are dumbed down. They offer no particular challenge and hold very little replay value. Every system has that. Nintendo at least has given a new game play experience instead of the old tripe that ps3 and x360 follow.
Online games survive because of communities. Single Player games are good for a run or two. Three if you're bored... and if you're bored to replay the same game, the same story for a third time that just tells you a lot about the game of your choice.
You hit it right on the money. The wii inproved on every aspect of its older console. Ok the graphics not a big leap but still different architecture with a lil more bang.
The remote as every one guessed it has changed alot from the gamecube. So it is a totally new system technically.
If your bases for "next-gen" is a totally new and fun(pending)way to play videogames then this could be considered "next-gen". I always asked what really is suppose to be "next-gen"? or what is "next-gen" to you and no one could really answer.
PS3' claim to fame is Blue-ray drive.(do you think thats "next-gen"? we all know the game will look better but same gameplay experience from PS2.
Xbox 360 seems to have the XBL thing going on.(do you think thats an element "next-gen"?
Yeah the games are in HD, but what else can be "next-gen" about it?(HD-DVD drive coming soon)
Which system will really change your gameplay? I'm not talking about how you been playing games the last 10 years.(with updated graphics)
Out of the 3, I think the "Nintendo Wii" will give you that feeling of different gameplay experience. Not that you won't still enjoy your 360 and your Ps3.
This made me NOT want to get a Wii.
but one things for sure, the japs are fiendin for that right now!!!!
so even if it isn't a mighty sucsess over here, nintendo will do more than enough in the land of the rising sun!!!
I know your high on PS3, but you talking about the article?
even sure of what "next-gen" is suppose to be or at least to them.
you ask a..
FANBOY - (umm its all about the graphics dude)(Only play one console and thats all they know)-are like "Storm Trooopers" just Loyal Droids.
HARDCORE GAMER - (Not sure here, They play everything)-Always up for a challenge
CASUAL GAMER - (it all depends, they don't play VG enough)(thier thoughts can be skewed by Propoganda) scary cause they make up the biggest percentage of VG players.
SIMPLE GAMER - (Stick to Minesweeper, Flashgames, Mobile apps, solitaire)
Anyone with some thoughts?
FANBOY - true. Also they cannot accept defeat. They will fight until the other party gives up. It never happens.
HARDCORE GAMER - are fanboys with out a brand. If they have the money they'll buy all three consoles. If they don't they'll go for the best value.
CASUAL GAMER - True, though they tend to mingle in circles filled with fanboys of opposite systems.
SIMPLE GAMER - True for the most part.
All these types of gamers know what next gen is. Because they can also read. All but fanboys can be influenced by sleazy propaganda.
Im a hardcore gamer by wakkiwakko definition. The best value that I can see is the 360.
oh just....shut up
by definition, i think you're a hardcore moron
There are still questions as to how the Wii will compensate for uncontrol movement. I've seen several children (Including my own) that bounce, jump, jiggle, and wiggle while playing video games. I wonder how many "accidental" movements will happen in Wii. Precision control devices (such as a laser pointer, mouse/trackball) require "user awareness" much more so than the Analog sticks used on Consoles.
I often see my children and their friends struggle a bit more on PC using a mouse than on a controller. Its not dramatic, just enough to cause annoyance. People don't like to be restricted/overly focused. Sure a mouse gives greater freedom to gamers "in the game" but in real life while playing I'm locked into my PC chair. The Wii's control structure seems to confine gamers movement outside the game and to much real world movement while playing may inadvertently do something that you do not want to do in the game world.
Also with a controller there is less drifting. With the Wii I see more potential for drifting. I'll explain: When an adult drives a car, the steering wheel as many degrees of turning left or right. When talking to someone or our attention is diverted to something other than the steering and the road many people will drift either to the left or right. At least with a vehicle there is some leeway and the driver generally compensates (all though a lot of accidents happen because of this). Thankfully in video games people don't generally die but their video character can. Also video games generally don't have very big margins for error so if you drift in some games chances are you'll pay. Now this happens on the old school controllers as well just not as often - but it does happen.
I can see the old angry fights/complaints coming back with the Wii. What I mean is back in the 8/16 bit era of gaming one of the many things people curse about their game machine was the "controller". How many times did I hear the cry "Its the controller fault" or "damn controller".
I'm still not set on the Wii's controller scheme yet.
I will have to sit and watch the market for awhile before I make my move. Hopefully, this won't be an issue because a precision pointing/control for 3d is always welcome.
Meantime...... There is nothing wrong with Sony and MS wanting to make money. Actually that battle will only fuel the fire to assure that they outdue each other in their targeted market. This only helps us gamers. Quite frankly, Sony fans and Xbox 360 fans want both consoles to succeed. Having 2 opposing forces trying to outdue each other will only bring better games to both systems.
Competition is a good thing.
"Let us all be gamers not haters"
It has been discussed in length how the wiimote works.
Look it up.
if sony and microsoft are just focused on money, then nintendo is just focused on surviving. Thats all im gonna say
All Next-gen means (when the term is used for vids) is that it's newer than the one before it and is more powerful, complex and, well, again it's new. If i was to judge the Wii in the twisted use of the term i don't think the Wii's next-gen at all. By the way it's the fanboy tactic of choice to bash MS for getting some games out early to build some fanbase just because the games don't touch the console's potential YET!. lol
"All Next-gen means (when the term is used for vids) is that it's newer than the one before it and is more powerful, complex and, well, again it's new. "
Hmmm. Wii is a new version of the gamecube as the ps3 is the new version of the ps2.
Wii has better graphics than the gamecube as the ps3 has better graphics than the ps2.
Wii is more powerful than the gamecube as the ps3 is more powerful than the ps2.
Wii has a newer control scheme than the gamecue while ps3 has the same controller seen back in 98 with the ps1.
What's next gen? The ability to play on high def tv's while they're still not in every home? Yeah... paying for features you're not going to use for a long while.
The Wii has shown marginally better graphics than the Gamecube. Nothing approaching the level of the difference in Xbox/Xbox 360 titles or PS2/PS3 titles. Wii is more powerful than the Gamecube, the question is how much more powerful. I don't think Nintendo will ever release those figures as they're not out to compete graphically with the other consoles. The consensus seems to be that it's slightly more powerful than an Xbox (which is 5 years old). So if you take that as a significant graphical upgrade over the Gamecube, that's up to you.
The PS3 has a different control scheme than the PS1, it has the dual analog sticks as well as the six axis sensors. The PS3 also has the Eyetoy HD which we don't know too much about yet. There are rumors that it will be able to take a picture of you and then import it as a 3d character in a game. The gameplay possibilities thus far with the Eye of Judgment game seem to show some nice interactive possibilities. The Xbox 360 controller is very similar to the Xbox "controller S," with a few slight changes.
And to you saying that why take advantage of high def discs, it's something called future-proofing. Somewhere around 20-25% of American households have HDTV's and that number is steadily growing as the prices keep coming down. I for one do not have an HDTV, but am planning on getting one at or near the time the PS3 comes out. Over the course of the next 5-10 years, the numbers of HDTV's in the US will probably be 50-75% so that is pretty significant.
we havnt seen allot when we talk about PS3, so if you are getting one just be hounest, you think the gameplay will be great right?
so why not bother to try a Wii?
anyway why are ppl pretending that when there are stronger machines on the market or still has to come that a less stronger machine is suddenly a Pentium 1 100mhz with a VGA card with 2mb video memory.?
Wii is a strong machine! and its way stronger then the GC, the video processor supports more graphical things. so there will be games with good looking renders.
and i dont think you should compare it with the other 2
Wii is new-gen not next-gen.
(to me next-gen = just like its previous successors only stronger, and new-gen= diffrent then its previous successor.
ofcourse evry new computer is like a upgrade, but Wii is the only console that comes with new kind of using a controller.
Ps3 has motion senser ANDY! trust me i have the MS controller for the PC and it works like SH1T so dont get your hopes up that the controller will be great, ( rumble future was way better the motion sensor in the PS3 will suck like hell just like the MS(sidewinder) controller did.
I've held a ps1 controller in my hands. Then I held a ps2 controller. PS2 was bulky but still was the same design. DualShock? Please. That's just a logo.
HD sales? They're low. HD sets are expensive. People who own them are either rich, run small buisnesses and need to flash the cash to attract customers, own stadiums and want to deliver high def entertainment. Middle Class folk who own HDtvs have been saving up for a long while and might not even be able to afford a ps3 coming this november. So yeah, 20-25% but only a small portion of that matters.
In the next 5-7 years.
When did Ps1 come out?
In the coming 5-7 years we’ll have a ps4. There’s no need for a 600 dollar console at the moment. PS3 should’ve been done the Xbox way. A console/media center not an extravagant piece of crap console that also tries to introduce a new format. Sony wants to do so much with the PS3 that it needs everything to succeed.
Face it. When HD becomes SD we’ll see new HD consoles. Then we’ll have a WiiHD which will blow away the competition in both gameplay and graphics. That is if Wii becomes successful and Nintendo wont be thrown into the gutters.
To me… PS3 screams out Dreamcast. A powerful console. Loosing support. The format is failing. It has that potential of being the best but no one is really enthusiastic about it. I just hope it won’t face the same fate as did the Dreamcast.
In the twisted use of the meaning next-gen, Wii's not "more" next-gen than the 360 and PS3 at all. lol the wireless force feedback wheel for the 360 doesn't make 360 more "next-gen" than the Wii and the PS3. lol
MS has some secret controllers their working on so controller's are a weak point on this subject, and quite silly. I was an hardcore Nintendo fan. not clowning. Although once MS starts making kiddy games the Wiimote will be the only thing to save the Wii.
are not sure what it is to be "Next-Gen" one pespective is everything must be new from the old console to the new. Hardware, Software Gamer experience etc..
Then again you can take a look at certain functions of the Wii console and be able to say that "this is "next-gen" gaming experience. It might be there but its getting there.
Take a look at the Wii. It is a new version of the gamecube but one of its functions has changed dramatically(remote).
Are we calling the Wii's gameplay experience "next-gen" or does "next-gen" still have to include everything from the Hardware, software, and the gamer experience?
From a Hardware perspective, If the Wii was comparabe to PS3/360? would we even be challenging its "Next-Gen" title?
Personally I don't think you'll get the same gameplay experience from the 360/PS3 as you will on the Wii if developers are able to work it right.
The same as the Wii will suffer because of certain titles developer might not be able to bring to it, with the weaker hardware ofcourse.
So it's clear were not sure on what we base the term "next-Gen".
I guess if the 360/Ps3 really offered something innovative like a controller as the Wii then they would be closer to being really next-gen. For now its great graphics while Xbox 360 does have a great XBL infastucture and PS3..well blue-ray.
New gen playabilty with last gen graphics. If you want the title of next gen king then you need to release something that is truly the complete package.
NEXT-gen means next generation they are all NEXT gen.
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