Microsoft Not Fixing Xbox 360 RROD Problems

Andru Edwards from Gearlive writes:

"The image you see above isn't some generic image we grabbed off the net - it's my personal Xbox 360. I know what you might be thinking - another one? Yeah, another one - but there is a bit more to this story. This Xbox 360 you see above has been used for all of 20 minutes. You see, about three weeks ago my old box 360 crashed and was giving me the three Red Lights of Doom. I sent it in for repair, and today I finally got a replacement. This actually is a replacement - they didn't fix the one I sent in, they just sent me a new one.

This one happened to have been manufactured on 8/15/2007. Anyway, I got it in the mail, hooked everything up, went through the Dashboard configuration, and started playing a demo. Fatal Intertia. We got tired of that after about ten minutes, and decided to boot up the demo of Stranglehold. We got through the opening sequence when everything froze. Fair enough. I had to manually turn the Xbox 360 off because it wouldn't even respond to the guide button. I turned it back on, and was presented with yes another Three Red Ring Circus."

[s8anicslayer]

a brand new 360 out of the box and you got ringed?i think not

[Presidentjr]

Just wait till a Halo 3 is released, all of this will be in the distant past. But I just hope you get your 360 checked before the game. Am sure we will see numerous people complaining about their 360 dieing soon as the game came out or close to the games release.

[beavis4play]

to 1- what do you mean you think not? the guy shows you the box. he's telling you what happened. are you that much of a fanboy to think this is a made up? what good would it do to fake this story. it's common knowledge that the 360 has some internal hardware problems. and 1.1-if if fact the hardware issue isn't being addressed by ms, why would you think halo will make it go away. if anything, playing halo continuously for long periods of time would cause the RROD to happen. i don't want people to have issues, but until this issue stops, ms needs to do more to fix it. ignoring it isn't the answer.

[DrRage77]

the reason this seems HIGHLY unlikely from a brand new xbo360 manufactured 8-15-07 is because the 3 red ring of death happens when the 360 starts overheating and then the motherboard warps a bit which causes the gpu connections to pull away from each other.....the warping of the motherboard is not something that would happen within 20 minutes, or even within 20 hours...

[WaggleLOL]

Dreamcast 360
Worst. Console. Ever.

Quick Xbots! Scamper off to as many console forums as you know and make up more lies about how you had a PS2 last generation and "had to replace it like 5 times!!!"

[eLiNeS]

I have the Elite and it just RROD on me today just before I was about to click download for the new TimeShift DEMO. I turned it off, used a can of air and got any dust out I could and it boot ed fine. I will be taking it back to Costco before HALO 3 comes out. I don't mess with Xbox CSRs. I take advantage of Costcos lifetime warranty at no extra charge.

Well back to COD 4 bEtA, no reason to cry about it. You have to pay to play the best!!! HALO 3 FTW!!!

EDIT: I swear, this site is over run by PofS 3 fandroids!!!! 5 Disagree and 0 Agree's! I know no Xbox 360 fanboy would Disagree, just worthless Fony fandroids with no life and no games to play. I said it before and I will say it again, "I would rather have a broken down Xbox 360 that I know is covered than a PofS 3 with no games even worth 2 cents, PERIOD!!!!!! Fony Fantards!

[nasim]

who have to pay 100s of dollars from their own pockets to repair the defective consoles

[s8anicslayer]

exactly!dr.rage,i can care less who's 360 rings, my point is that the system is to new for something like that too happen. maybe he got some other 360 that was in line to be fixed, by accident.

[Mu5afir]

The only additions to the newer manufactured Xboxs is the added heatsink, they didn't make any drastic changes to the system. So the probability of something like that happening shouldn't be a surprise.

[uxo22]

I'm not saying that this story is fake, but If I was to show someone that my brand new 360 made 15 Aug was RROD on me. I would have also showed a picture of the back of my machine to show it was an HDMI model.

Kind of wierd, something in the back of my mind just says...BULLSH!T. Don't know what it is dough. I could be wrong, story could be legit.

[solidt12]

When Halo 3 comes out everyone will be playing so of course there will be alot more of them breaking. That is just simple math. More people playing + For longer periods of time + More Heat = More failed systems

[SlappyMcTaint]

"Just wait until Halo 3 is released." WTF does that mean? Is Halo 3 so good it will just heal your 360 and make it un-RROD-able? LOL, you xbots really are retarded. I'm sorry.

When Halo 3 is released, we'll see an even bigger flood of RROD'd 360's

[gta_cb]

its called 3 year warrenty, soon as though the Xbox 360 hasnt even been out that long we dont have to pay if anything goes wrong!

[greed]

dom dom dooooooom!

[uxo22]

Okay, first off if I just got it, I would play it for a bit before changing my faceplate. And sure as hell wouldn't have changed the faceplate after it broke. I don't know, I kind don't beleive this story. I'm gonna give this one 3 turds. WOuld be nice to know his gamertag, to see when he was last logged into xbox live.

Edit: I take it all back, this guy has no reason to lie.

[reaferfore20]

I know there's a bunch of different SKU's with varying differences, but don't know which one to buy. I want to buy one sometime in the near future, but... come on. This is ridiculous.
People shouldn't have to worry about a major system failure in the first year. Nobody likes not being able to play their games for a couple of weeks; or worrying about having to do the same thing over again the next time. I guess I'll have to wait, until then I've got Warhawk to hold me over... oh yeah and my roommates Xbox/Wii those are nice too.

[sak500]

So he was sent this one with the new face plate as well?

[beavis4play]

since he probably paid for the face plate, maybe he took it off the old one before he sent it in. and anyways, if he was trying to make a bogus story do you really think he would photo the box with something so obvious as to give it away.

[solidt12]

Yeah man I just sent mine in last week and they ask you to remove your face plates, hardrives, no cables ect. I would of put my faceplate back on first too because it would be just sitting there.

[snoop_dizzle]

maybe not though becasue aren't they about to release those?

edit
E3 05 limited edition?

something is weird here.

for those who don't know what I'm talking about click on the link and look on the right of the 360.

[Delive]

A faceplate he got from that event, kept and when he received the new? 360, the thought would be that he's going to be keeping this one for a while, sooo lets go ahead and dress it up like the last one was. My guess.

[tatical]

The Falcon 360 is a poor revision in my opinion.
http://www.pc210.com/newsht...

The Falcon 360:
65nm CPU
90nm GPU

Isn't the main problem with the GPU and not the CPU?

My thoughts:
MS must have originally planed to change the CPU first, THEN the GPU, before the RRoD was a wide-spread issue. After they discovered the GPU had heat issues, they should have made the GPU the highest priority.

[WafflesID]

well if you are not a complete idiot fanboy then you already know that the new processor doesn't have anything to do with the RROD problem.

EVERY console goes to cheaper smaller manufacturing for their processors.

the new processor is ONLY making ANY mention in the "news" because of the RROD and people are retarded and think that ms is doing it BECAUSE of the RROD.

[Bloodmask]

360s came with the upgraded larger heatsink on the GPU??

I have to doubt that Microsoft would keep shipping defective units bc this will end up costing them more money in the end bc of repairs.

[DrRage77]

every single 360 manufactured starting towards mid-june has been manufactured with the added heatsink, along with all refurbs also...thats why again this story seems a bit unlikely...

[Lifendz]

because they have such a steller history of not shipping malfunctioning products to consumers?

[hfaze]

It's hard to say what all will cause the three red rings.. Nobody but Microsoft hardware knows for sure..

Also, this could just be an isolated bad unit that was just good enough to make it past QA in the factory...

Hard to say on this one...

[kn]

I have a July unit that is a replacement for my failed 1st 360. Mine had a DVD failure and not the RROD. The one I have now was a new replacement, just like his... It has the new heatsink and obviously the newer CD ROM as it is quiet as a mouse. It doesn't run anywhere NEAR as hot as the previous unit did. Clearly the heat sink is working.

That said, there are all sorts of things that could have gone wrong. The fans in the rear could have been left unplugged when it was assembled. A fan could have failed. The heat sink may not have been attached properly during assembly. All sorts of human error could cause this to happen -- old or new hardware.

This is, of course, assuming it is legit. Either way, there WILL be failed hardware regardless. It will never be perfect...

[HeartlesskizZ]

Why does the face plate has an E305 sticker on? mine dont have that!

[ParaDise_LosT]

to get a limited Face plate and attach it to his NEW Xbox360..
xD

[DeadIIIRed]

Yeah because the face plates can't be removed and I'm sure he would send in his face plate.

[power of Green]

I was just talking about this with a Sony fanboy yesterday(slanderish news posting methods).

PS3 boys will heat this up on the front page before i'm done typing this.

[Sangheili85]

It's funny he says it was made 8/15/2007 which i highly doubt they would make one the not even 2 weeks later ship it to him but he doesn't show proof of it being made in 8/15/2007. No picture of the date on the unit or anything. I think its a fanboy article. To lame i know 360's got problems but 20min? yeah right.

[XENOCIDE]

Why's everyone having a problem with the faceplate? You get a new unit, you've kept an old valued faceplate, you swap the original white one out with the valued one ('though I'd sell it as opposed to actually using it).

Anyway, you said it all. This article's locked n' loaded full of b.s. 20 fk'n minutes after being removed from the bubble wrap n' it RROD's? Seriously...there are so many holes in this claim that I can JUMP IN.

[DrRage77]

i agree, wouldn't it be IMPOSSIBLE for him to get a new 360 that was manufactured on 8-15-07 already??? they ship these things from china, and i don't think they would be shipping it directly from the factory to this guys house.... i think MOST people would have taken a picture of the back showing it was manufactured on 8-15-07 if they were pointing that out specifically in the article....

[ReBurn]

They cross the ocean on cargo ships and the inventory has to go through customs. I don't think that two weeks is enough time to get from the manufacturing plant to a warehouse. Not to mention the week or so it takes to ship the thing.

While I don't doubt that 360's break, I do doubt this story.

[Daxx]

and it's coming from Andru Edwards.

[fredy]

need to explain what 360 this guy has? are these new? he said it was made 8/15/2007, thats like 2 weeks ago?

What does the E305 means?

Somebody.......unless it all stands for B#llsh!t.

[Daxx]

E305 is just to show that the face plate (which is a very rare face plate, I think only 500 exist) was from the display 360s at the E3 videogame expo in 2005.

And there is no way his 360 came back with that faceplate. That faceplate itself is worth more that the 360.

[Delt4]

Seriously a fake. If he's playing 2 different demos you have to add in download time for both and his playing time on them. Not to mention setting the box prefrences, 20 minutes is not going to do all that because thats not even enough time to get every thing right with the box period. Please its a hoax

[MrSwede]

It was a while ago I had a 360 but aren´t you able to backup your demo´s to a portable harddrive and then copy them back? That sure won´t take more than a few minutes.

Edit: Well he had to download them a first time anyways so I think you might have a point there unless he got the demos from a friend. But you´re right it doesn´t seem to be a waterproof story although this is nothing compared to the guy who returned his 360 10 times.

[secur1ty911]

all this sh!t started coming to light. I think I'll pass on buying a 360 until the first quarter of 2008. In the mean time I'll be investing alot of money (probably buying 6 games in total before December; I checked out Ebgames list and there are amazing games coming out for the PS3) on great fatastic games coming out on the PS3 this glorious holiday season.

[joevfx]

the 360 was made by 4 year olds with hoosk for hands, it will break if you sneeze to loud by it. get system that was acutally made by a hardware company not a software company.

[Daxx]

crap. didn't mean to post here. sorry. :P

[power of Green]

Leave fanboy you're reaching with your foolish desperate nonsense.

[assjacket]

Well, I have to say that if true this certainly sucks for this guy. Although it is kinda strange that he gets it in the mail and hooks everything up, and changes the faceplate to a 2005 E3 edition? Then tries it out by playing a Demo. The fact that he tried the Fatal Inertia Demo first also makes me question his decision making ability.
Hey Zilver!, you a big Surfer fan or just wanted a cool alias? I have the first Silver Surfer comic if you want to make an offer!

[gsx-r]

Couldnt he have put hte faceplate on the new 360 from his old 360?...if you guys had that faceplate wouldnt u put it on your new 360 right away?

[FunnyBone]

First i have never seen the red that color and i have had 1 rrod
2. when you turn the 360 on the middle power logo light is on,this one is not...i would not be so fast a to call this real
3. the power button is chrome not black,his dvd drive looks to be black--elite???20 min

[Daxx]

It might be photoshopped. O_O

[Premonition]

1. The green light is on, only people who will deny this article wont see it.

2. He has a faceplate on so it will somewhat make the red look funny.

3. Again he has a different faceplate a rare one in fact so maybe thats why his is chrome?

EDIT: who the heck disagree, the facts are right there, jeeze the things people go through to down play something.

[BloodySinner]

What the hell is wrong with Microsoft? They're currently in a really good position and they aren't doing anything about the Xbox 360's problems. Very stupid. This is the ONLY reason the Xbox 360 isn't selling as well as it should.

[Premonition]

People say its bull but with a guy having a rare face plate like that, I think hes as much of fan as much of you guys on here, why would he lie, and write this all up. There is no 100% guarantee that the Ring of death is over and done with regardless if his new one came with the new heat sink in it, it could be other problems that Microsoft wont share with us untill like a year later just like they did with admitting a year and + later that there was infact a problem with the 360 hardware design.

[FunnyBone]

then come to your own conclusion

[Trethan]

Along with FunnyBone's comments about the picture, I have an issue with the date.

I got my 360 back from RRoD about 3 weeks ago. The date on the new console? April 7th, 2006. Somehow I doubt Microsoft just sends you the first one they find laying around, and this guy got one two weeks old.

Not to mention that even mine from 06 doesn't have the loud fan, nor does it get nearly as hot. And wasn't heat the problem?

I love the 360 and all, but there's enough of them breaking for REAL, without anyone having to make it up.

Edit: To Premonition: Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I see what you're saying about the faceplate having a chrome power button, but his looks like a pure black one to me. Shouldn't his be chrome? And I can see a faint green light once you pointed it out, but I don't know.. any 360 I've seen gives off a pretty powerful light, even with the rings flashing.

To Power: Good point, I hadn't actually thought of that. My bad. Still seems like an awful close date to me though.

And maybe I'm just dumb, but aren't the elites all black? Like the whole thing? Why is the top white, or is that just part of that special faceplate?!

[Premonition]

Check the picture ive posted, the faceplate has a chrome power button, and if you can see good the green light is on.

EDIT: Have you ever seen a chrome object in lighting it looks black. Seriously people this is not like its hard to believe or something, stop trying to find ways out of believing the article jeeze man, are you guys like around 13 years old, you cant use something called logic? this isnt a big foot article or something where you have to look at every single little pin point detail to try and come to some type of conclusion. I mean the people who disagree with me are either immature or just doing so just to do it, but in the end I know im right because ive looked at the facts Ive posted it, and thats all that matters. You can down play it from here to freaking kingdom come but the fact still remains.

[power091999]

Is your an elite?

Could that be why the manufacturing dates are different from yours, and his?

From the looks of the picture he has an Elite.

I could be wrong.

[Daxx]

All I can say is that my 3rd 360 works great. (yes that's right I went through 2 360s).

I bet the RROD problem will all be but gone once 2008 comes around.

[Crazyglues]

So with that in mind let me say to this poor guy "-sucks to be you" ..LoL

[THUNDERMARE]

Really xbox fan, I think you people shouldn't just blindly protect MS, the dude post his comment exactly to tell MS that there are some problems with the 360 and they should fix it. This is all for 360 owner's benefit since if MS able to fix this RROD, then Sony fans will have one less bullet to shoot at.

[ArduousAndy]

no proof that he sent it out since theres no pictures of box. When the 360 gets the RROD the power light also turns red not green. Second unless he took a blow dry set it on high and aimed at the system there is no way that 20 minutes worth of game time would cause an over heating. This story is fake.

[gsx-r]

The middle light posted in the pic by premonition has a green power
light too, so is that fake also?

[Premonition]

No the power button doesnt turn red as well its just the outer lights that turn red, trust me ive been through 3 already.

EDIT: its sad when a 360 owner doesnt even know that the green light stays green and doesnt turn red, shows how much they no about their system and they have to disagree with me because I proved them wrong, keep bringing on the disgree people, because its just making you look dumb really it is.

EDIT: @ 24.3- did you read what the guy said. He said the green power button also turns red, that means A. He doesnt have a 360 or B. he was so quiick to judge he didnt think before he posted false information.

[Trethan]

I wouldn't say it's sad a 360 owner doesn't know the color of the light when it breaks. I'd say that's a good thing, ie, he's never experienced it.

[D_U_I]

I love it!!!!! The 360 is DOOMED! The PS3 is doing fine. Mine is working ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha. LOL thats funny.

Jump OUT

Edit: Wanker below. I'm not waiting for anything mate. Ive just got warhawk and its BLOODY GREAT!!!!!!! And soon Lair, then HS, then Uncharted, Then Dirt, Then the getaway 3, HMMMMM lots of games for me MATE.

JUMP OUT

[DrRage77]

yeah its easy for the ps3 to work normally since it doesn't have to worry about playing any games on it! but dont worry, sony's dangling that promise of AAA titles coming sometime in a delayed future lol

[Anal]

But yer MS should go to hell because of this. My 360 has a modded fan, and that seems to keep it COOL. But i guess they could be in serious shat for this, Oh well.

[NRG]

I Almost wish people would stop posting articles like this. We know it's broken, let us know when it's fixed. Almost always, the only feedback is "lololol yur xbox is liek so dum you shuld buy ps3 cuz its bettar"

[Maddens Raiders]

but I'd guess yours would suffice brilliantly.

[Komrad]

i can sympathize, but he's gotta send that back and get another. Hang in there. too many games comin' to quit now.

[RINGOFDEATH]

All 360 owners who had the red ring of death should sue microsoft and get your money back..Stop crying and start doing something about it..

[Trethan]

Considering they're replacing them for free and have extended their warranty periods to try and make amends, I don't think that'd go over very well.

I'd assume you'd have to prove they're dangerous (haven't heard of any fires yet!), or that they had full knowledge of the problem beforehand.

Or that they made claims on the box that they didn't deliver upon, which isn't true to my knowledge.

As far as crying, I don't see much of that going on. More of "Man, that sucks. Good luck with the new one." When mine broke I wasn't mad, and I had to ask myself why. I should've been mad afterall, right? The answer was that I didn't really have a choice in the matter. It has the majority of the games that *I* want to play, so I had to suck it up and wait for a new one. Getting upset about it did me no good.

[tomfoolery]

Nice try though Sonybuttboys.

[gsx-r]

you have such a way with words, how old are you, 12?

[tomfoolery]

I'm 84.

[D_U_I]

Just remember who your DAD really is ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaa. Your mom plays motorstorm with me, she loves getting dirty!!!!!!! ahahaahahahahahahaaa
JUMP OUT>

[Daxx]

Remember that tolerance thing I talked to you about, Tom?

[SuicidalTendencies]

I just got mine back about 2 1/2 weeks ago with the manufacturer date of 7/27. How did this guy get one from August?

[Maddens Raiders]

the Electronic Arts of Consoles.

C L A S S A C T I O N L A W S U I T

If these were cars PEOPLE would be DEAD, FIRED, or in the HOSPITAL.

I have nothing but empathy for 360 fans, but I hate your masters. CHARLATANS and snake oil salesman they are. The funny thing is that you guys keep going back for more. The world is totally upside down.

LOL @ KOMRAD - "hang in there" lmfao - WOW, incredible folks. Has there ever been a more defective product than this on the market besides the Pinto?

[secur1ty911]

Fire in the Hole !!!!

RROD is killing us all!!!!!!!!

Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ShishouMatt]

Maybe it was refurbished in August and wasn't produced?

[waldopepper]

Delt4 11 - "come on Seriously a fake. If he's playing 2 different demos you have to add in download time for both and his playing time on them. Not to mention setting the box prefrences, 20 minutes is not going to do all that because thats not even enough time to get every thing right with the box period. Please its a hoax"

My memory is a bit hazy but aren't all settings on the HD - maybe this is what he's calling 'dashboard setup' - selecting the profile from the HD. That aside, he could easily have already downloaded the demos - just attaching his old HD would have given him access to these.

[Testo]

Are considered "sold" because of you guys.

This is what I'm talking about.

"I have the Elite and it just RROD on me today just before I was about to click download for the new TimeShift DEMO. I turned it off, used a can of air and got any dust out I could and it boot ed fine. I will be taking it back to Costco before HALO 3 comes out. I don't mess with Xbox CSRs. I take advantage of Costcos lifetime warranty at no extra charge."

I'm guessing your not the only one to do this and Costco isnt the only one for this to happen to either.

[secur1ty911]

give me a refurbished one.

I Love Microsoft XBOX 360 Company because they respect their gamers, it truly shows.

The sh!t is really going to hit the fan when Halo 3 comes out and many many 360 consoles around the globe but especially NA start getting the RROD during gameplay.

I would not want to be the gamer's shoes when that happens.

[PimpHandHappy]

~~stroking my chin~~

if this is true then all the new 360's that have been shipped in the last shipment are junk!

~~scratching my head~~

if u think MS is going to tell us all the truth your crazy! With games finally hitting the PS3 they REALLY dont want this kinda news to become known fact by them saying so! Just think what sales will be for Christmas if MS told everyone you have a 1 out of three chance you will send you system in THEN you have a one out of three chance that one we fixed for free will also break! The average for consumer electronics failure is 3-5% and if MS told the world we have a 33% fail rate who in there right mind will spend 400+ bucks for a faulty system for a hand full of good games!

~~scrathing my nuts~~

Hey MS u have been serviced by all your Halo fans and 360 surporters but i think its time u service us! SUCK IT

~~smoking a cig~~

Dam 360 ur good at sucking my D**K

ok back to Warhawk

peace

[BigFART]

LOL!!

[Bathyj]

Why is anyone still surprised new machines keep breaking?

I thought Falcon was the new unbreakable version. Is it out yet? No. Until then every single Xbox is exactly the same except for maybe a bigger heatsink which doesn't seem to be doing the trick.

Anyone buying a XB now should not act surprised if they have problems with it. M$ has admitted their design is flawed and have overhauled it. And hey, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming Falcon will work, but why anyone would buy one before its here is beyond me.

PS
Refurbished units suck. They sell them at the store my Brother in Law manages for about the price of a game less than a new one and he had one guy bring back 4 of them. Geeze if you really cant wait for Falcon at lest get a new one.

[PimpHandHappy]

if they put a littel tag on the new Falcon 360's you can bet they will sell! Shame they cant do that because that in turn will make all other 360's sit on the shelfs! Plus the fixed up Falcon 360's will be 450bucks!

I bet if Sony was first to market and had these issues that MS would spend a billion on TV spots to tell everyone the PS3 has a 33% fail rate! I always feel slimey after hearing these guys talk so i can bet how they would handle news like this if there ENEMY PS3 had such problems

Sony is first class and they game me a first class machine that doesnt break and has some very cool games! Warhawk is the best online game ever!

ok im done here

I feel bad for this guy and maybe a year from now the PS3 will have issues but i doubt it.

peace

[Marceles]

If my Elite ever got an RROD i'd have to kick someone's ass. It might not be a MS employee but someone's ass will be kicked.

[Anal]

I'm Lucky with my modded 360. No problems, except for the jet engine sound that comes out of the side of the 360 when a game is loading.

[mcgrawgamer]

2nd 360 red ring of deathed on 8/29 10:46pm est. This is it once i get it back I'm using that as a down payment on my BRAND NEW PS3!!!!!!

[kiko89]

get warhawk.

[THUNDERMARE]

the 499 deal is coming to close soon

[gEnKiE]

lol, all i have to say

[StormShadow]

My launch 360 died in July right around the announcement of the new warranty. When I got the box back from MS it had a manufacturing date of July 25, 2007. I thought it was new but I doubt it although it did have the new heat sink. I hooked it up and to my surprise the video started to go bad after 20 minutes, flashing lines on the screen. So another call to MS and shipped that box back. Today I receieved my second box and although everything seems to be fine now I have this nagging feeling that this box can die at any moment. I am by no means a fanboy but if I spend a few hundred dollars on any electronics I should have piece of mind that it's not going fail at any momment. I'm seriously thinking of selling everything and buying the PS3, but that's a whole other subject.

[otherZinc]

Have fun playing LIVE, HALO 3, GEARS OF WAR, BIOSHOCK, MASS EFFECT, & many other great games on your PS3!?

Im sick of crap @ss threads like these, if your machine breaks out of the box, its something wrong at your house or your tricycle you took your 360 home on the wheels were too hard, making the ride to bumpy and efed-up your new 360. Yeah, thats what happend!

[mcgrawgamer]

You tell me how you would feel if you where on your second 360. You come home pop in Bioshock. On your way to neptunes bounty when BAM! Your 360 is dead u can talk crap because you haven't experienced this problem. I'ma grown ass man that knows how to take care of his SH**! Now I'm sitting here with Dead Rising, Gears, Bioshock, and Oblivion; with Halo 3 mass effect and COD 4 on reserve. With no console to play them on. Not you, M$ or anyone else for that matter can assure me I won't experience this problem again. Oh and by the way I stood in line for a launch console that died 2 months into it's life cycle my gamertag is GotEmRunnin, just in case u think I'm blowing smoke punk.

[PimpHandHappy]

@otherZinc i guess they cant even make a box to hold the 360 in!!!

@mcgrawgamer
this is why 08 will be the end of the 360hardware

peace

PS: You came into the xbox with Halo and your leaving with Halo3! Just think the stink if GTAIV looks better on the PS3! Wow EA and Madden will be just a small FLAME next to this forest fire!

[gsx-r]

This happened to my 360 2 weeks into buying it, and I didnt want another one knowing it would most likely just happen again.

[PimpHandHappy]

lots of 360 ppl with stories of broken down systems! Maybe 33% is a bit low a number!!!

hahahahahaha

SUCK IT M$

[The Populist]

I also had an Xbox 360 fail. When I sent it in for repair, M$ didnt give me a new one, instead they gave me a refurbished console from 2006. It has already failed, and I have to repeat the process again.

The Xbox 360 was a gift, so as far as I know I cannot get my money refunded. Does anyone know of a way to get a refund for a defunct Xbox 360?

...

[Premonition]

You probably cant get the full price back unless you sell it to someone, but EB games can give you cash for the trade in but they take away like 20-30 bucks from it.

[Maddens Raiders]

There is nothing wrong with Microsoft's consoles. Each one is diligently handcrafted by Almighty God and theoretically can never be broken. Please do not pay attention to these threads as they are sacrelige.

[GRAMPAGAMER]

It's already been confirmed by hacker sites that there have in fact been "certain revisions" in recent versions of the box,...

.. also the falcon (the 65 nano 360) is on the way to stateside shores on cargo boats from china.

it takes six weeks to get here by boat, so how did a 360 with a phony looking 8/15 manufacturing get here that quick to make it's rounds on the internet "scandal channels".

the only possible plausible explaination is that this box came from a repair center closer to the west, and/or this is some bonafide fakery at play.

my advise is "don't be so gullible to sources that have no integrity."

I guarantee you will not find this kind of bogus "trife" reporting on any creditable, reputible site.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Someone woke up this mourning and took the a lie pill or he's a Sony Droid. (I think both)

[gsx-r]

will you still blindly follow MS and keep supporting them?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I'm sorry gamers don't support the PS3 (LOL no I'm not) but it don't matter, gamers wan't games not promises of games and MS delivers on those games and takes care of it's costumers along the way.

[SofaKingReetodded]

for MS employees who keep pushing defective hardware people.

[Genki]

So what will happen when the Falcon model gets released? Apparently, even with these new heatsinks everything isn't all fun in the sun. I certainly hope the Falcon model is reliable, but will they silently recall the older ones? They had better, because I'm waiting about 3 or 4 months after the Falcon gets released before I buy JIC, and I'll be pissed as Hell if I end up with a crippled old unit.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

I doubt they will recall, if anything it will be a soft launch, they don't want people to know. If everyone knew they would all want to trade in their faulty models which means major money loss for them on all the recalled consoles.

[Daewoodrow]

his new 360 overheated in 20 minutes? From demos? Is that even physically possible, unless the fans weren't spinning at all?

I'm going to assume this is true though, just because he has nothing to gain from pretending this happened. I hope.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

who knows maybe a fan malfunctioned and caused the 360 to overheat at an insane rate.

[MattFoley]

My 360 red ringed three times before it finally bit the dust. It's born on date was june of last year. Its name was Robert Paulson. I burried it in a flower garden in my back yard.

All joking aside 20 minutes and a rrod means to me he's either really unlucky or it is a fake. Hard to say but with it only being 15 days old or less makes it seems very unlikely.

[Sovannah Phum]

xbox RRoD FTW!!!

[BigFART]

Tick...Tock.....Tick...Tock... ..Ti☆◎△□◇¿!!?¡§! !!

[_insane_cobra]

Fixing the RROD problem doesn't mean weeding it out completely, but bringing the percentage of bad consoles down to standard industry levels. This guy got a bad console, that in itself means absolutely nothing.

[Biasmania]

I'm not crapping on the 360, you can see that I played a lot of games on my sisters by my gamertag. I am a PS3 owner. But I mean why do you think that Gamestop is only trading 360's in for 150 dollars? This is a problem when you hear about it everywhere. My sister, and her husband had one die really early after launch, the replacement has worked great. I hope if one tears up on anyone the replacement works. I wish they didn't tear up at all. Gamers should never be without their console, especially during big release seasons.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

I went to square one with a few friends and by chance we went to eb games. THe first thing I noticed there was a working Wii and PS3 and then to the right of that an Xbox360 with red rings of death. I found it quite funny how they would keep it on display, seems like an employee forgot to turn it off when he left work.

Personally I would like to see the Red lights of death problem dealt with better as in actually fixing it to the point where you shouldn't have to worry about if it will crash on you. IF that happens I would seriously consider getting one then.

[mighty_douche]

why is everyone saying that this story is fake? what would he gain from that exactly! the console has the highest £uck up rate of any piece of hardware that i know about so one more breaking, wow, thats gotta be a lie huh

[leon76]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA...I...AHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA...just to say...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...my oppinion is...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...wh at i mean is...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...thi s story is...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH...now really, i....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. ..CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!!

[SofaKingReetodded]

"game over man, game over, we're f%^$#"

buh bye Mediocre Software, it's been fun watching you go down in flames.
Now leave console manufacturing to REAL hardware companies.

[Genki]

This RROD issue is a VERY sensitive one, and I agree, they can't just stop the presses and announce to the world "Our volatile production model has been revamped, come get the new and improved edition today!".

I can't even imagine the pandemonium that would ensue, even from diehards. The other problem that arises is that folks like me, who are wary of this issue and want a unit with a smaller chance of being faulty is stuck in a rut, because it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to discern an old model from a new one.

Again, I can't imagine that they'll stamp "with newer, more reliable mobo configuration!" on each box...then their entire old inventory would just SIT on shelves. Quite the predicament indeed...

[tudors]

but it turned out to be the power supply, he replaced the Xbox-360 twice from the store and it wasn't until he tested it with my power supply that he realised there was nothing actually wrong with the Xbox-360.

[g-nome]

The 360 is a pile of cr@p , pray while you play.

[donscrillinger]

this guy is lying he's an sonyfanboy

[leon76]

And you are lying too, because this did happen to you too, didn't it???

[mcgrawgamer]

if you want the games right now they are on the 360. The thing that pissed me off is when u call 18004myxbox; "max" the little computer help has to walk u through troubleshooting first there is now way around him. Then when u finally speak to a rep they walk u through the same damn troubleshooting steps. I have a wii and i can play metroid prime solely for a few weeks until it's fixed but the hassle the customer service from Microsoft takes you through is awful. I'm sitting here and my buddies are playing the cod4 beta, gears, madden and all that good stuff and all I can do is sit and watch them from my pc at xbox.com....

[bym051d]

What good are all the games in the world if you can only play them for the short time your XBOX isn't in the shop?

[The great 1]

More like 6M

[Saint Sony]

Even if you have to send your 360 for repair and wait weeks to get it back, you still got loads of more time to play really good games compared to PS3 buyers. Sucks tbh. From Waitstation to FakeAAAstation. Where is our GOOD games?

[sticky doja]

If it was manufactured 8/15/2007 show me a video from the RROD to the back of the console with the HDMI port and I will believe it.

[ReBurn]

I seriously doubt that consoles manufactured on 8/15/2007 have even made it all the way to the US from China. They ship these things by cargo ship and they have to go through customs. Not to mention the time it takes to ship from the repair facility to your home.

Maybe the guy really meant 8/15/2006?

[SKullDugger]

Lets see a photo scan of the MFD and the HDMI port my son has a new 360 PRO with HDMI and the 2nd heat sink it works fine is very quite and runs cooler then the older models with out the 2nd heat sink. I LOVE MY 360 and its GREAT GAMES!!!!

[harpua]

worst console ever

[solidt12]

This is sad. Microsoft has my 360 now also. I was playing lost planet for like one minute then I heard a beep sound followed by the red circle and it was dead. Mine was manufactured in November of 2007. I am a sad puppy right now because i didn't even get a chance to play Bioshock yet but it is sitting in my Entertainment Center.

[sticky doja]

I'm sure you just made a little mix up with the dates, but I doubt you have a console from the future.

[DarkJedi]

I'm now on my second 360 and that got RROD just yesterday playing Blue Dragon.

Getting annoyed now...

[LOFT316]

PS3 Then

[LiquifiedArt]

Move on man, Move on.. Stop supporting Micorsoft. PS3 is a great console i mean from everything from movies,games,interface,hardwar e and media functions.

You really do get what you pay for. Sorry to hear though i'd be pissed if it happened to me.

I helped my good buddy sell his 360 earlier this year, he luckily got a decent return on it 350$ for several games and the premium system. But prices are kinda low :-/

[KS1985]

Just Yeaterday?

Man, I thought MICRO$OFT would fix this problem.
But than again, it's money with these people.

Do you ever wonder how Bill Gates is Uber Rich?
Well that red ring spells it out.

[DaEnforcer]

Imagine what will happen after Halo 3 comes out. The xbots are so fanatic about this game so millions will play this game for an extended time and this will probably lead to millions of 3FixMe's dropping a RROD on them. Uhmm well...at least you got the RROD solution: The original MS anti RROD towel =]

[Foliage]

I was thinking the same thing earlier. Attached is an image of my thoughts.

P.S. Don't get too riled up fanboys

[jodonn08]

havent people learned that 360s break after two minutes, quit wasting your time and money

[LiquifiedArt]

Why do you guys/girls feel the need to support a company that produces such low-quality hardware?

I mean your the monkey's speaking with your wallets. Move on to a new company, obviously M$ doenst give a rats a$$. They know there is a major engineering flaw. And they are trying to cover it up.

360's will continue to break for teh remainder of there lifecycle.

[Si-Pie]

Well i can see where your coming from and I agree microsoft really do need to get their act together on this and hopefully they will. Thing is apparently if console modders claim they can fix this problem then why cant microsoft? Ive got a launch 360 which just last week went wrong so ive sent it back for a free repair which I hope in a few weeks time i will get a fully working unit. But yep the reason I want it back and buy the 360 is for the games. If I could get Mass Effect, Halo 3 and Bioshock just to name a few on the PS3 then yep Id buy one of them! Im sure the PS3 will have its fair share of great games e.g metal gear solid, little big planet etc, but as of this time it has no games out for it that interest me. So even though the 360 has alot of hardware problems it also has alot of great games either out or coming out very soon.

[Si-Pie]

oops sorry double post

[ReBurn]

If quality were measured by your standard, then who in their right mind would have purchased a PS2 after the number of PS1's that broke? Who in their right mind would have purchased a PS3 after the number of PS2's that broke? Just 4 months after I paid $300 for a PS2 I had to buy another one so my investment in my game library wouldn't be wasted because of the stupid DRE's. But here I am, the owner of a PS3.

The truth of the matter is that for most 360 owners this is just a minor inconvenience. There are people that have gone through multiple 360's and I can see why they would want to move on. But I've been on my first one for a year and a half and I've never had a problem. Even if this one broke I would simply send it back and get another one. It just isn't that big of a deal. I don't live or die by video games.

[Bill Gates]

RED RING OF DEEAAATTHHH!!!!......AAAAHAHHH AHAHAHHHA

Enjoy, XTURDS....aahahhahaha

[SKullDugger]

Ok he took time to take a picture of the front of the system why not the back which would show the MFD and the new HDMI out put if it did have a MFD of 8-15-07 I want more proof first otherwise this is a bogus story and more 360 hate by a SONY FANBOY.

[DJ]

I love how Peter Moore had the balls to say “You know, Sony and Nintendo have their share of hardware problems as well.” Last time I checked though, PS3’s defect rate is 15 times smaller than the industry standard of 3% (i.e. less than 0.2% have a hardware-related problem), and the Wii has been nearly flawless.

[ReBurn]

Go check the PS2's failure rate. And read up on the lawsuits around it. Then go read up on the Playstation's failure rate and the lowest possible quality disc drives that they put in them.

It took Sony 3 generations to get it right. And I'm glad that they finally did.

[THE_JUDGE]

the company isn't fixing the units, they just repair them until they die again. There has been no fix, they put band aids on flesh wounds.

[gunnerforlife]

lol 20 minutes that a new record lol and a new low for microfost. but do u think they just sent u the same console but changed the date and everything so it looked like a brand new xbox.

[GRAMPAGAMER]

the kind of news that only rabid seasoned fanboys go for.
make sure you P-bots clean off your key boards after you post

[Da Ghostdog]

This article is BS.

[ion666]

(PS3)TORTISE AND THE (XBOX360)HARE.

[gEnKiE]

Actually theirs an article on gamepro about this same topic so m$ could really be screwing their customers....which wouldn't surprise me at all...

[spike]

I just got my 360 back Tuesday. No problems yet. Been playing Madden 08, and Bioshock all day. They did give me a replacement though. How do you know when it was manufactured? This was the second time I got the 3 Red Rings of Death.

[Relientk77]

so fix it?

[tapdis]

all you have to do is go find a guide on how to open the 360, then you get some money go to the computer store, or newegg.com buy some artic cool thermal paste and anoter case or cpu fan put in the xbox and bam. its not going to break down. for those of you who never opened a xbox 360 they use crappy thermal paste and the stock fan is garbage.

[JokesOnYou]

the thing is we already know that older 360's have a higher risk of PROD but since the new heatsinks were added I havent seen reports of mass defective 360's, the forums are no longer filled with alot of 360 owners complaining of failures, and major gaming sites are no longer reporting a huge amount of complaints so its likely that the heatsinks are working, ITS OBVIOUS only sonykids use every story of any ONE (1) guy as PROOF that the heatsink isnt fixing them.= thats stupid, thats like saying well since ps2 had disk problems in the past, then after they eventually settled and fix them that if a ANY brand new ps2 drive is defective then sony NEVER actually DID fix the problem, ha ha that makes no sense, so the point is micro has done something to fix them but are you expecting NONE of them will NEVER EVER BREAK FROM NOW ON= this guy is stupid and the reason I believe he's a sonykid is because he says micro is NOT fixing the PROD all because his new 360 failed, yes I understand having the problem would piss anybody off but no matter what micro does, even when if its only the normal defect rate for electronics 3-5% then theres always going to be a few unlucky bastards whos 360 will break= that does not mean they didnt fix the problem at all and assuming he is not lying this 1 story only means he just was 1 of those unlucky bastards=

where are the stories of mass 360's STILL failing like the situation reported on every major website for 3-6 months after launch? its always just one guy now or basicly old stuff re-reported as new. ha ha sony kids your console is taking an @ss whoopin in the gaming dept so you need a reason to talk shiii about the 360, its not working, even with all the bs hardware scare tactics even sony execs talking shiii during E3, the scare tactics still didnt work, more people STILL like the 360 games better= its going to continue outselling ps3=

JOY

[cRaYoLaBoX]

yea ...happened to me too ..sux alot ...alot ....