Abbie Heppe is back in the hot seat with Kevin Kelly, Dana Vinson, and Jake Gaskill to give you their reviews on the Xbox Kinect. Also, Adam Sessler calls in to give you a summary of the video game violence case in Washington.
the accelerator and gyroscopes need calibration. You didn't have to calibrate EYE TOY games because its a camera but no one cares. BTW if you 360 has power going in to it kinect is on. SPY MUCH G4 should just die already. satellite dropped them, their site is a mess, the just started doing podcast and the original people are gone. sess is the only bright spot. alison is not as funny as munn. they suck X play gets owned by GTTV
Watching this was a lot like watching Fox News. They were throwing buzz words and phrases around left and right. I'll give anyone one guess as to how they explained Kinect + controller (Microsoft Move) games being implemented. It rhymes with "Crossing a seranade." I slightly enjoyed Feedback a year ago. But they, and G4TV in general, are becoming more and more unreliable. They don't review games truthfully and they borrow their opinions from marketing speak. I know that Microsoft says Black Ops is best played on the 360 (Even Wal-Mart tells me this) and I know that Microsoft feels Kinect is more appealing to the hardcore gamers than hardcore gamers know. Can you tell me the truth now, please? Edit: The woman with glasses said the calibration was "fun". She enjoyed holding a smiley face card in front of the camera. Either she is the most unhappy woman on the face of this earth, or she was encouraged to say that she had fun holding a card.
In the older feedback shows they were a lot more critical of it to be honest. Like they basically called it useless. And even though they said it was fun, they really did end it saying they'll probably never play any of the games again. Also, feedback is a very good web show, when Adam Sessler's there.
The woman with glasses said the calibration was "fun". She enjoyed holding a smiley face card in front of the camera. Either she is the most unhappy woman on the face of this earth, or she was encouraged to say that she had fun holding a card. This is when I stopped watching it.
Yeah, I hate to throw the Fox News line around because I usually reserve that for the most egregious fanboy sites (e.g. the Bitbag), but this was incredibly biased. On the move episode they basically brought in one person to do all the Move bashing while everyone else got to play naive. Software faults were equated to hardware faults and after ten minutes you'd swear G4 just told you the Move was trash. Oh yeah, in that episode the hired gun even stated "PS3 owners don't know how to check trophies" and something along the lines of trophies are lame because everyone gets one. I swear, finding an unbiased gaming site is almost as hard as finding an unbiased news site.
I can't stand any of the people on the G4 staff, aside from Sessler. I actually respect Sessler as a gamer, and I think its a shame that he's stuck on a lame network like G4. When he got there, it was actually still a decent network. But I can't stand the G4 staff in general because they all have such horrible opinons. Yes, they're opinions, but that doesn't mean they can't be misinformed or entirely ignorant.
So tell me, what site do we compare Fox news to that makes them look more bias than say... MSNBC? Come on tards, every news site is bias, you simply mock the one that is not your bias... As for Kinect, it is a joke. Just like Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow or Chris Mathews.
Great that they had no problems and were happy with the games. But having problems setting up PS Move? Not registering? No instructions? Come on, it's SO EASY. And that "Sony tried to patch everything, Microsoft built everything form the ground up"? Well, Sony patches some games - and it works great! Read the reviews people.. And Sony do build a lot of MOVE games from the ground up, hello... So what she says about Sony not doing that is false. It just get's to stupid when they praise Kinect like this, and diss The move and wii. As for if people want a controller in their hand or not, that's for people to decide. Edit: Oh and "it's really works, it does everything they said it would!". Does it really scan objects yet? But they do have a point: Kinect is the new Chatroulette - penises everywhere!
I was a little set back by them complaining about Move as well. I have a few friends that picked up Move and all of them said it was a breeze to calibrate and it's so accurate. If you knew one of my friends you would know Move would have to be easy to calibrate. The guy barely knows how to send email or switch video inputs on a sound receiver. Overall they said exactly what I thought about Kinect. It works better than they thought but the games are just novelty games. It's geared toward kids and about the only game (currently) they think is fun for the older crowd is Dance Central. I was surprised to hear that DC is a one player game. Unless I heard wrong or they are mistaken. You would think that the game would be better 2 to 4 players. They ended the piece with 2 out of 4 wouldn't buy it, 1 would because he buys everything and the other just for the heck of it because she thought it was neat. Either way it's just opinions. I don't have the room for Kinect. I mean I could easily make room but I prefer not to. Why rearrange your house to game only having to move things back when you're done? My wife is considering getting one but I'm not sure where she thinks she will be able to hook it up. Kinect is basically the death of the coffee table but that's not going to be the case in my house.
I bought the move bundle and i can say 100% that to calibrate all you do is point and click. Its that simple even when using it to play mag you just point at the targets and click. Why they try to make it seem like its that hard i don't know. Hell my 8 yr old can calibrate it.
I'm telling you now, they all got it for free. That's why neither one of them is bad mouthing it. It was just a Kinect worship show. That guy obviously never had a ps3 or he didn't have his TV on. "No intstruction" It's on the screen: Point and press the "Move" button to calibrate. Everything they said was in complete contradiction to every review i read. Easy to set up No problems at all Fun with Kinect sports I love how they talk about the video chat feature, where on ps3 you can do 6 people instead of just two.
she seems pretty happy and glee bout the kinect.
Anyone else find it funny that they hated the thing like 5 months ago, now they love it? bipolar much? Its ok because I dont think Abbie even owns a PS3
A lot of media catered to the doubt the hater created in the industry. You will see a lot of magic second opinions that are positive as the consumer masses show the media were being timid, with their wallets. I'm sure there will be reports of people having issues due to putting Kinect in cabinets etc.
@Kai its the magic of M$
The answer to your statement is simple, they knocked it before they tried it. Then (like me) once they actually played it, they were surprised on how well it worked.
Setting extremely low expectations is a sure way to trick yourself into wasting money. If you take everything that was promised for Kinect (not Natal) at face value, it's a little underwhelming. If you expected Natal, Kinect is a HUGE disappointment. If you expected a HUGE disappointment, you got a pleasantly pedestrian surprise. FOr example: I thought Freddy vs. Jason was going to be the worst movie ever made. Turns out it was mildly funny. I guess it was pretty okay to me!
Well not all garbage, Ninja Warrior is cool.
I agree. G4 has realky gone downhill. I don't even listen to Xplay anymore. That pathetic arm yanking around act they put on trying to prove that Move doesn't work was the last straw. Dislike the games if you want but don't spread lies about Move not functioning.
They hurt your feelings? They're not saying anything different from what everybody that do not spend 24/7 hating on game forums already know.
I take it, you've only focused on a handful of the reviews, rather than looking at several sources?
blair and webb not even trying to play right or kevin crapping on move because he was sick and had to work. kevin using one move and not even playing right and complaining about how the game plays. i have never seen a gadget pron where kevin just hated the gadget and was so negative it made me say out loud WOW REALLY anyone see adam and kevin doing kinect game break and adam throwing old man punches but on screen he is mike tyson. thought that was funny
I can't stand Abbie. She is many things: A. She is incredibly biased, I listen to Feed back because I still fully respect Adam Sessler, he is the only good one and has always been the only good one over there, (Kate Botello was great as well). But Abbie acts like she is not, but she only likes X-Box, so does Morgan, they rip on PS3 and Nintendo all the time. I find it funny during that whole thing she rips on sequels and no original IP and yet all she does and talks about is playing COD, the Mecca of games being spread thin. She is a giant hypocrite. B. She is not objective purely emotional. When I read her review of "The Other M" I was disgusted and am pissed that Adam backed her up. The entire review all she did was bitch about the story and how it was "sexist". She did not talk about the actual game hardly at all, and nothing good about it. She just got on her soap box and tried to act like some kind of feminist leader. I think women are as powerful as men, it's just whiny ones like her throw them back more. Adam is the only thing decent at that place, he is one of the few good reviewers out there. But these guys their advertising comes from MS and that is where the problem lies, yea MS may not be directly paying the, but there is pressure to make revenue. I think big game sites should not have game ads, but other things, I know it would take away from a lot, but I think it compromises a honest review anymore. Sorry to get on my soapbox, but I really don't like Abbie at all, she whines, she's a giant hypocrite, and she thinks she's some how more sophisticated then everyone else. Adam run away from these people and start your own show on another channel, I would follow you. Bring back Kate Botello too.
Indeed, abbie is the biggest Xbox idiot there. Adam actually has a head on his shoulders. Feedback is good when adam is present, otherwise its xbot garbage. I listened to about half of it before they started spewing that everything about kinect is fantastic and new. Abbes a loser and is so far up MS's ass its unbelievable.
Couldn't of said it better myself. Bubble up to u. G4 just needs to die.
I watch feedback from the start episode 1 and it was balance. adam - never showed favouritism which is one thing that makes him cool because other sites and people say things like fanboy are stupid and i play all consoles but you just don't believe. Geoff Keighley is another guy that never shows bias. patrick - 360 fanboy but he never really tried to hide it abbie - 360 fangirl that say "I play all consoles" as if that erases her reviews, comments and actions Go back to the mass effect 2 ps3 episode and watch how quickly changes the subject while adam is talk. they talk about it for less then a minute, why because abbie was reading the news because patrick left G4 sterling -he leand more on the ps3 side but not hardcore ps3 fanboy there was a balance but now its 3 360 fanboys and adam and it kind of sucks. the reviews are ver questionable and x play sucks now. you get more from GTTV , AOTS is lame munn was not drop dead funny but alison doesn't fill the void
There's really no objective gaming news sites anymore. I noticed G4 was not a reliable source of news for me when they let Ray Padilla and Brian Leahy go, and bought in those tools from 1 Up. I haven't visited the site in over a year and I don't even acknowledge the TV station anymore. Sessler is the man, though. He needs to leave G4 and do his own thing. Oh yeah, I'm not a big Abbie Heppe fan either.
No there hardly is. To me it's the old school game reviewers for the most part. Adam, Giant Bomb (Jeff G.) And the leftover crew of EGM at Bitmob are the only ones I care to listen to . The rest are either fanboys themselves, (either way is bad) or they are getting pressure to get advertising money, and trust me MS spends way more on ads then Sony ever has.
I'm glad I'm not alone on this. I just can't stand Abbe or Patrick, he's always got a grin on him, and will say anything negative about the PS3 he can. Same with Webb, she's horrible with Nintendo as well. I mean I agree The Other M was not the best, but it was not horrible, I can't believe that all Abbe did was bitch about the story, and talked nothing about the game hardly at all. Adam seriously needs to make his own show away from G4. Stop trying to merge MTV and gaming and try to make it look cool/mainstream. Just talk about games, take it seriously, and stop with the lame jokes.
Xplay just hates Japan and by extension Sony and Nintendo. Of course, it wasn't always like this. In the early eps they had import reviews and great TGS coverage. Unfortunately, somewhere along the line, Xplay got some unfunny, biased fucks that were pissed because they got tentacle raped by Nippon and so here we are. The good news, G4TV is getting flushed down the toilet faster than an unwanted fetus on prom night. Xplay will be relegated to budget podcasts and left to rot in some dank, forgotten corner of the internet along with Keiji Inafune's blogs and Abbie's failed porn career (yes, I can't stand that Xbot bitch).
Making jokes about the death of a baby. Classy.
i guess this g4 episode has hurt alot of ppl.. to wish death.. wow.. SAD :S
That lady with the glasses has got to go. She is so full of it it's not even funny. They are all a little irritating but she is the worst of them all.
Heck even the wii is better. U want proof, show me a fps game working with kinect as good as MAG or Red Steel. U cant unless your willing to say this is better http://www.youtube.com/watc... I look at it this way if u compare tech to others even if kinect has 3 cameras & can track your skele.... it does not mean diddly if it is limited to certain genre of games. The ps move can be used for ANY type of games & do a great job at it. Can we say the same for kinect? Thats what I thought.
To me it's cool if some like Kinect I'm not saying one way or another on it. I have Move, no desire to get Kinect, but I"m not saying it sucks because I have not tried it. But I do think it will wear off on people way too quick, and MS is not really doing good by separating their target market so much, because they will alienate their other fans, and they will go to Sony. But the advertising thing is a reality, and it is a vicious cycle. MS spends 10 times more on advertising then Sony or Nintendo. With the original X-Box they were kinda the underdog, and though they spent a lot of money, MS could not afford to psis of the sites that may advertise them, at that time there was no "heavy" pressure to make them want to be biased in their reviews. But when the 360 came along MS has just dumped money on it, got a little ahead, now all the gaming sites fear them, so they do just fall in line and never talk bad news about MS even during the heavy RROD days, they just ignored it and found any possible way to rip on Sony. But this cycle continue because they know gamers come to gaming sites, and so they put their money in there, and then we get biased reviews because of MS's advertising dollar that they heavily lay down on. I like some 360 games, I have owned both of their consoles as well as all of Nintendo's and Sony's. I love gaming. But what angers me about MS is just how they have ruined the media the past 5 years, where you can't trust anyone, when reviewers are getting paid to objectively review games, not kiss ass and get on their high horses. Some laugh and say "Oh that's a conspiracy theory" It's really not. It's simple business, these sites need money they only get it from advertising MS dumps more ads then any of the other giants combined, and they fear losing that revenue so they suck up to MS. MS does not directly pay them anything, but it is in a way they do.
I'm curious: How many people whining in this thread have actually played the Kinect?
What makes me annoyed about people gushing over Kinect is while showing it off they refuse to acknowledge it's weaknesses. I watched that boxing game with Adam and Kevin and you could see the lag between the punches they made and the avatars responce. It's like people are just refusing to see things like this. I really don't mind that much if Kinect sells but when you have to lie and cover up flaws just to try and make it look good that is pathetic. Like people saying Kinect got better reviews then Move when it didn't score less then seven or that the Kinect games got better scores when SC, Eyepet, or Tumble got scores in the 8s and up while they ignore the 5s and 6s some of their games have gotten. In short, I don't understand why people have to tear Move down to make Kinect look good. Just give it up. How does trying to make Move look bad help you in anyway?
G4 has been kissing ms ass for a while( they gave too human 4 stars I played for an hour and a half then added it to my video game hall of shame next to aquaman and superman64). They don't hate Sony or nintendo(except for Morgan Webb who has taken the pain she's got from not being the hottest girl on g4 anymore and has directed at the wii) but the majority of their feedbacks focus on ms exclusives or multiplatform games that they played on the xbox. The whole channel has become unfunny watered down garbage, I remember when half of xplay was johnny extreme breaking bear bottles on his dick and the other half was link and tingle being forced to play russian roulette in a Korean POW camp. But now it's just Morgan Webb and Blair herder( or whatever his name is) making painfully unfunny jokes between video game "previews"(trailers) . I still tune in from time to time cause I love sessler but other than that I avoid it as much as possiblè
Edit: This really isn't about me hating on kinect, it's of a rant about g4 in general, it's kinda like if I had a daughter who was good student and had a promising future but years later she's blowin dudes for coke and I'm wondering where it all went wrong
No need for attacking g4, everyone with more than three braincells knows that g4 is garbage and it`s easy to laugh at them, especially that woman.
500,000 sales for minecraft.. awsome!!
I agree with most here that while Sessler is excellent, others like Abbie are very poor. I too have noticed how big an Xbot she is. And to think Feedback just won an award. All due to Sessler.
But aww man I hate that show.yet I must listen because of my video game talk obsession!
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