Gaming analyst Michael Pachter has told IncGamers Sony must get Gran Turismo 5 out before Christmas as a delay will ‘cost them a million in sales’.
what a frickin retard! Respect Sony's Authoritaaaaaaah!
GT5 itself will be a game that will push console sales, it has long legs and people will be buying it well into 2011 and 2012...this is what Sony is counting on since it happened with previous GT games...i know that if am not able to get a copy in the next month or so because its sold out, then i'll wait for future copies or just reserve one online
http://cache.gawker.com/ass... Have no fear, he'll have enough done in time for chrimbo
any game that dont sell in november and december will miss out on 1 millions sales
this is beyond me
GT has a lot of hardcore fans but not everyone who buys it will be one. There will be kids who see the trailer and the graphics and buy the game thinking its just like Need for Speed. 1 million sounds to much to me I would say its more around 1-5% of the first year sales (wide guess but lets just say some sales WILL be lost) I don't fully agree but I will give you an example of what Patcher might be trying to say. Considering there are 1 million people who only get to buy ONE game a year on their birthday which was November and this 1 million people are not really that interested in GT5 but still kind of like it... They might not wait for GT5 because they may not even like car games that much. So they will go out and buy Black Ops or another November release... Now here comes November 2011 this people who were never really interested in GT5 but would have gotten it last year may have now forgotten about this game. So they might not buy it at all and just buy the NEW game they heard about on a TV advert. These are the same type of people that would thing CoD is better than Battle Field
its not that crazy sounding think of it this way they could have sold out or close to it in november and then sold out in december if the game comes out in december then they will only sell out in december
He is saying that if they miss the holiday it will cost them one million copies sold. It has nothing to do with a delay from november to december but a delay til after christmas if that was to happen. If it release in early december then it shouldnt matter that much
you make alot of sense , and to all the blind sony fans who keep saying GT5 will sell tons no matter when it comes out , think again ppl will eventually move on and stop waiting and Sony needs to stop teasing the GT loyalist and get its act to together im a huge GT fan owned all of them and if it doesnt come out this year , i will be in no rush to buy it As there are lots of greats games coming next year from Sony that i will be more than willing to buy before GT5 , with that said this game will be awesome and they need to get it out atleast 2 weeks before christmas , and they need an awesome Ad camapagin to make up for the delay
it could also sell out in january if it was released then..or febuary or any month of the year.. it could almost sell out in december and then again january.. it can easily as much work that way.. its not hard to make predictions is what im saying @Danja wrong dude, the loyalists will stick around no matter how long it takes, even if it took so long they forgot about it once it was announced again it would be straight back in the interests of a 'loyalist' and as for the not so up-to date people who dont follow news sites and buy games when they see them in the store it will be the exact same for them whatever month because they'll see it once the store has it..
GT5 is finished, is in Gold Stage. It will be released before 2011.
Maybe for the first week, those million people will still pick the game up.
I highly doubt that, once the game comes out people will still be falling all over themselves to get it, and it will help to push sony sales; witch haven been increasing over the years anyway.
That doesn't really make sense, they'll get those "one million" sales they missed from the delay after the Holiday season -_-
I don't get it - is he saying one million sales (copies) or is he saying one million IN sales as in $1,000,000 cost?
lol if either turn out to be right that will be declared as "what he meant".. the guys a fool like that
means copies sold which at release prices would be 48 million dollars worth
1,000,000 of what? A number he pulled out of hi a...hat in the first place? How can we ever know what that number would have been? Travel back in time and sell it again or what?
I think he's saying that there are people who'd buy this for the Christmas break or as a gift who won't then buy it in January or later. PS3 has a lot of great games though - both multi and exclusive and they tend to sell steadily since there's so many to chose from (most people can't or won't get them all). GT5 will do OK in the long even if it slips to next year - but I don't think it will at this stage. r.
This dude is retard. GT5 will sell a shit load whenever it comes out, before or after Xmas.
It would sell a lot more before the holiday. People buying gifts for others in addition to those buying the game for themselves. That is just the way it is around Christmas
It will sell good after xmas too, because of people getting Xmas $,and insane deals.
Wether GT5 sells a shitload or not has nothing to do with what pachter is saying. If GT5 sells 1 million copies less then it will still sell a lot of copies. But its still 1 million less copies. Wether he is right or not we will never find out, but its not unlikely. Pachter does say alot of stupid stuff but i still find it sad that you get so many agrees for kinda pointless stupid comment.
Sorry about my stupid comment. I read what the dude said, and the comment was created while i was still in my WTF mode.
Stuff sells during Christmas. If you sell the product at the right time, it will sell more. That's what he's saying. What's so hard to understand? The fanboy goggles are thickening by the day. I'm a PS3 fan, btw.
jeremy said it on top gear and I thought what a weird thing to say but funny as heck
top gear host and he is funny.
no. just no.
Media is at it again XD
Its crazy how much the media is a double-edge sword.
Eh I kind of agree with him on this one. Although the dates apparently end of November so its not too far off. Nov 2nd was good, out before NFS and well before Christmas. Doesnt mean it wont sell though.
He sais it will sell less if it release after christmas. This has nothing to do with delaying it to late november/early december
stfu retard -_-
I predict that GT5 will sell well, does that make me a pro analyst?
Yeah, pretty much. We could all do his job.
lol @Dark_energy i'd rather belive your predictions over his aswell, the guys lost it
I predict Patcher has a mouse brain
Who cares, Mr. Sony is rich. He'll be dead soon.
Here is the full qoute before you all pull out your pitchforks. He clearly says that most of the lost sales will be made up and that it will still sell well. He is likely correct in this and his logic is sound. “The last announced launch date of November 2 was a perfect window for them, and thought that the game would sell around 5 million before the end of the year. “Over the very long run, they can make up most of the lost sales, but people who buy a racing game like Need for Speed instead may not be as likely to buy a second later. “So a slip out of holiday probably permanently costs them a million in overall unit sales. I think that the game will sell over 5 million regardless, probably close to 7 or 8 million, so it will be hard to quantify the effect of a potential slip out of the holiday."
I think this will quite down the sony puppets. Honestly read the article first. Anything negative and you all complain regardless. He has a valid point.
well why declare a prediction that sony will lose out on a million sales that will then in term be re-gained.. because technically theres no loss -_-.. this isn't news they might not sell as many "on release date" but say for instance we were now a year on and gt5 has sold 6million copies.. now come back "oh my gt5 has been released after everybody has bought xmas presents thats gonna hurt release date sales" then after xmas everyone spends there money/has picked up pre-orders etc etc... sales start speeding up again.. back to the future "oh wow 6million copies sold".. its a dumb prediction, and yes im aware i sound like a total "insert word similar to nerd/retard etc. for talking about and using fictional time travel to make my point.. but its true
Well I dont know where they got this 1 mil number from, but its obviously that the delay will hurt them. People are already xmas shopping, after that delay many people just bailed on getting the game this year. Even if it were to come out in december, thats after black friday, so there is no doubt the sales would be effected. Whatever, the game isnt finished yet so it will be in stores when its ready, if the sales are effected bc of it well thats sony's and PD's problem, not mine. I couldnt care less if this game was a flop, as long as I get to play it.
lol. this guy is a professional guesser when is he ever right! however, i do agree they need to get it out before christmas because that will cost them sales, but you cant guess it`ll cost them a million
it will cost them sales but only release date and first week/month sales but in the long term it will work out as a gain rather than a loss of sales.. infact i wouldn't be suprised if it sells more in the month of january than it does in the month of december, guess im the new pachter guys :) nintendo to start publishing games on 24 carrot gold discs :)
He is potentially right, but GT is GT and everyone (who likes simulated racers) will buy this game
the delay of GT will NOT affect overall sales... it will just shift them out in time do to the delay. GT has NO competition, so if you were gonna buy it, you will still buy it, just a tad later.. btw..another article I just refuse to read
Someone should patch Pacther because i think he needs to be fixed badly.
been waiting for 5 years couple of months won't hurt much, just get the game right then i'm a very satisfied customer
Oh boy!! its patcher. :(
im kinda thinking that this is to give ea a little breath to sell nfs. sony and ea kinda close recently. i really hope they dont f up and delay till 2011.
i thought that patcher is ok guy,but after this i think that he is total dumbass!
Proof or it didn't happen. Haha, can't wait to get my hands on it. Not much longer now.
when does pachter ever quit being wrong??
And the jerk speaks again.
WTF is this? He thinks people are gonna drop it just cause they delay it for a few weeks or months when people have waited for 5 years for it to happen,you sir,are retarded
I know most PS3 Fanboys are going to say this, like I have seen so far, but most gamers can't afford 2 or 3 different racing games ABOVE other games that are releasing. Like I said below, there are already GT5 sales lost because Need for Speed comes out first. It's not a word of which game is better (GT5 is clearly better), it's which one comes first. I believe there will be a solid 2 or so million that are guaranteed no matter when it comes out. But like he said, around a million of the potential sales will be too busy playing games like Need for Speed and Call of Duty to want to put down another 60 plus dollars on ANOTHER racing game. It may be THE best racing simulator, but Need for Speed is also a good game stacked full of content. And like my friends, people will want to play the game enough to get their money's worth before purchasing a new game.
need for speed is horrible, played on the demo and not impressed, gt5 will lose hardly any sales to that game
Does this moron ever shut up? A delay won't cost Sony any sales. It looks like it should be out before Christmas. Anyone who was going to buy GT5 isn't going to say no way now. Yamauchi must have seen a couple issues he really wanted to fix at the last second. Would people rather get a buggy game and need patches as soon as they get it?
This could very well be sort of true. I have a couple of friends who are car nuts, and they only have a PS3. Only play it for games like Call of Duty or the occasional fighting game or super-hero game. But the main games they play are racing games. They play games that are more based in the street and such when it comes to racing. So games like Dirt don't work so well with them. Anyhow, what I'm trying to say is, since they heard GT5 isn't coming out, they're both now getting the new Need for Speed. And since they don't purchase two racing games at the same time (even though one is simulation and one is arcade), they'll be milking Need for Speed dry for content and only then, will they buy a new racing game. Which will be GT5, naturally. But you see, this probably won't happen for at least 4 months or so, and if that's how other racing gamers think, then GT5's launch sales will be effected by this delay. So my point pretty much is I think this guy is right.
GT4 did 11.06 million worldwide according to wiki.. I know GT5 isnt GT4 but I have a hunch GT5 sales will be just fine. Who is this dude?
Ahhh Pachter Now I can sleep easy. GT5 will release and sell one million more than he thought... This guy is the laughing stock of the industry...
I wish I got got payed for guess work... Analyst my arse! Any chance that with it releasing close to christmas it might increase sales?
I know that people love to hate Pachter, but not releasing the game prior to Christmas could have an impact. The holiday shopping season is the time of the impulse buy. We have to be careful that we don't assume that others have the same buying power that we do. Not everyone will be able to affort this game on release day. And not everyone who buys a copy of this game is going to be the person who plays it. If it's on little Billy's Christmas list, but it isn't available for purchase when mom or grandma go shopping, then mom or grandma will buy something else. And little Billy may not have the money to pay for it himself, so it's a lost or postponed opportunity. A million copies may be an extreme projection, but not being available during the two months when nearly half of all games are sold wouldn't help, either.
it will Its not like ppl just stop buying games after Dec 23rd...
Ok this is the millionth time i've seen the name Patcher on this site. He says things and it gets written in an article. But why, he is'nt some super analyst. In fact I can't think of a time when he was right. Patcher says this, Patcher says that. Shut up Patcher and get a real job. Yheesh.