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Kinect has problems recognizing dark-skinned users?

Gamespot: GameSpot testing suggests facial recognition features of Microsoft's motion-sensing camera system might not work properly for some gamers.

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-Mezzo-2544d ago

What does *Motion* has to do with Skin Tone, if this truly turns out to be a problem, Microsoft would lose a ton of sales.

T9X692544d ago

Well I saw a review the other day posted here on N4G by a dark skinned user, and he didn't seem to have any problems. He wasn't like Akon dark, but he was pretty dark and from the video it worked pretty well. Then again a lot of reviewers are saying the calibration setup is difficult regardless of skin color, so that could come into effect as well.

feelintheflow2544d ago

one dark skinned worker never got it to recognize his facial recognition. Another got it to do it sometimes and a third never had any trouble. So who knows if it is going to be a problem or not. Seems pretty quick to start using this type of headline. They act like it is a given when it only didn't work for facial recognition so he could still play games, and it worked for one and not the other person, maybe the dude was just so ugly it wouldn't recognize him. I am gonna wait to make any final judgments.

gaden_malak2544d ago Show
BulletToothtony2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

some HP computers have this same problem.. i guess the contrast might be an issue under the wrong lighting..

it's pretty bad thou

reminds me of this..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

---stone---2544d ago

gaden_malak
Don't all black folk look the same?

@gaden

all black people do not look alike. They're the chocolate rainbow...

black people all different colors

Black walnut

Burnt almond

Chocolate

Chocolate mocha

Pecan

Vanilla

Yeller

Meller

Light

Bright

Damn-near white

-quote Redd Foxx lol

ElementX2544d ago Show
gaden_malak2544d ago

for all the disagrees - I was clearly joking.

Perhaps I should ask if all internet people lack a sense of humour.

DORMIN2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

"Kinect Doesn't Care About Black People"

MasterGuru2544d ago

Would Kinect recognize my dog? My dog is half human half dog.

J_Cob2544d ago

I saw an E3 video of this guy dressed in all black and it couldn't track his movements.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

So much for 3D tracking. Looks like it tracks colors. Wth is the point of two cameras?

awiseman2544d ago

I have been waiting for a comment like yours to come along...

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InfectedDK2544d ago

Kinect is a pedo natzi spying tool

MorganX2544d ago

Why don't you tell your black jokes to real black people on the street instead of online, don't forget to ask them if they have a sense of humor.

MasterGuru2544d ago

I wonder what HHG has to say about this.

va_bank2544d ago

We joke like this with our black friends (they have lots of white jokes too), but I probably wouldn't do the same with strangers.

rogersz2544d ago

Like a lawsuit to MS lol

darthv722544d ago

guess we wont be getting the HHG review anytime soon.

lol

Heisenberg2544d ago

It's official... Kinect is racist.

Dee_912544d ago

so this means the tanned guidos and guidettes in jersey wont b able to play this lol
jk

solidt122544d ago

From Little MAN the movie " He wasn't Mocha he was like a caramel cream Latte color black"

morganfell2544d ago

So are white people. What's the point? It is only a racist attitude that thinks they are all "white". It's just that white people don't have a fit over it when they are generalized. It isn't the end of the world.

AndrewRyan2544d ago

Now thiefs won't be able to use Kinect and therefore won't be stealing it! Amazing strategy by Microsoft!

Dee_912544d ago

im sure they would have a fit if they was slaves
and get racially profiled
even tho most people try to pretend its not as bad as it used to be :)

thank for telling black people to forget about their history and pretend nothing happened\is happening

morganfell2543d ago (Edited 2543d ago )

Who alive today is a slave in the free world? Do you realize how other people, many of them Irish, were indentured and brought to the US to be bought and sold, treated like property?

Do you realize how many racial jokes are told about other races?

Do you realize that most Africans were sold into slavery by other blacks?

Who alive in the US today was a slave owner? Seriously, the reason a lot of racism won't die is certain people keep bringing it up as if it is the source of every damn problem they have. No one is saying forget your history but Judas Priest, take that rock out from around your neck that you are keeping there like some badge.

Instead far too many feel like beating that damn drum to keep that angst alive. You'll never have an identity until YOU choose to be free of it. There isn't some guy in a sheet around every corner.

But then again, it's the fault of all these white people alive today, right? People like you fail to realize you'll never move forward as long as you insist on keeping yourself chained to Kunta Kinte.

Let it go already and stop playing the entitlement game. Want to talk skin? Grow some with a little thickness like everyone else has and realize that not every word in every language nor every comment is racist. Even if it refers to skin color. If you can't acknowledge the differences between the races and laugh about them, including your own, then you'll never be free. You are still a slave alright and you are your own massa.

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deadreckoning6662544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

LOL...love the pic. T9X69 pretty much sums it up. Unless your Wesley Snipes black...I think ull be fine.

@bviperz- Yeah man. Robert Downey Jr., one of the best comedic actors of our time :)

bviperz2544d ago

I can't stop laughing just looking at the pic and remembering the [email protected] he said in the movie!

RageAgainstTheMShine2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

Wow that's why Oprah was never offered to demo it so instead Ellen was the right demonstrator all along.

Is M$ racist?

How about us Indonesians, Malaysians, East Indians, Samoans, Filipinos and Africans? Drats!

EVILDEAD3602544d ago

LOL @ people believing this is actually an issue..

Will be debunked tommorow..

MorganX2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

Based on the idiotic photo the author chose to use, a white man in blackface. If it is true, it only effects white men in blackface. Not real black people.

BTW, I love Sgt. Osiris in Tropic Thunder and Robert Downey. But using this photo in this article is not the best choice.

CYCLEGAMER2544d ago

Its a freakin lie....I have it and I am playing it right now and it has no problem signing me in or recognizing me, and on top of that its dark outside and I don't have a well lit room. So this article is crap.

CYCLEGAMER2544d ago

LOL at disagree, must be a part of the fanboy patrol.

shoddy2544d ago

-small apartment
-dress/ baggy cloths
-load noise
-black people

jony_dols2544d ago

Uh oh, Microsoft African division better sort this out.

MorganX2544d ago

99.9% of blacks in America are American. Africa ancient history. Microsoft and American company, would have to figure it out if it was an issue.

I know Sony is desperate, but this is beyond the pale.

syanara2544d ago

you people disappoint me! I CAME HERE LOOKING FOR SOME FUNNY COMMENTS! whats wrong with you guys?!?!

edgeofblade2544d ago

Quite simply, if the skin absorbs infrared light too readily, the IR camera won't be as capable of detecting depth.

Certain kinds of clothes do that too. I recommend playing naked, if you're white and in a grey jumpsuit if you're black...</sarc>

princejb1342544d ago

is just fan boy bashing thats all
this article aint true

XabiTheHumble2544d ago

lol you just can't win bro.

solidt122544d ago

LOL Kinect is racist? I hope not.

Sano642544d ago

I would not be suprised if lots of people try and return it because they think that theirs is broken but then find out it does not like "some" black people

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ALFAxD_CENTAURO2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

There are a lot of reports about this.

Wonder why the demonstration on Gamespot didn't work well with a dark skinned guy.

@mezzo

I thought this problem was fixed long time ago.

The reports about that, started in 2009. When Kinect was called Natal.

There are reports from 2009, the camera have problems to track black skinned people.

What a shame.

-Mezzo-2544d ago

But the thing i don't get is that why the Skin Tone is even a problem, it's Motion Controller not a Skin Tone Controller.

-Alpha2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

If the camera uses light to see, and dark people are dark, then doesn't it mean they are hard to see? Especially for something like facial recognition?

Hm, I'm a little confused too now, wonder what Operah thinks about this.

badz1492544d ago

but she's shining, even M$ want Kinect to be with her!

Death24942544d ago

a problem as it is a querk. What people are forgetting is that is "software" related, meaning it can be adjusted and fixed. Actually the CastTV post, he said that it did have some trouble with the facial recognition feature. If you're not black/cuban/ or a dark skinned mexican than you're okay. The auto sign in uses facial recognition to do this, and if your Kinect can't recognize your face then it won't sign in. But to be honest, I don't think people who drop $150.00 on this are going to care much unless it affects their gaming experience.

MorganX2544d ago

If that were the case. I would think it would have trouble tracking light skinned people in a white room.

edgeofblade2544d ago

This is the part where you get past Kinect being "just-a-camera". It's an infrared depth sensor that also has an RGB camera on it. If certain shades of skin absorb IR light too easily, there will be nothing to reflect back for the depth sensor to read.

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Carlos_Irwin_Estevez2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

picture is pure win, it also doesn't like proper beards.

They took out alot of the heat sensors, it doesn't work in low light either

TheLastGuardian2544d ago

Why did you use a picture of a white guy made to look like a black guy? You should've used a picture of Wesley Snipes instead.

n to the b2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

off topic: I had absolutely no clue what was the freakin point of that movie A Scanner Darkly until I watched my bro's special edition copy with all the commentary. now I like it ok. :)

downey jr. looks baked in that pic. which is prob appropriate if it's the premier event for that film. ;)

-GoldenTimeLover-2544d ago

Officer Tenpenny wont be pleased. :P

vhero2544d ago

Either way its EPIC FAIL. Imagine buying it and it didn't work correctly because of your skin tone. You couldn't return it as there is no return policy once open in the states. Luckily in the EU we have statutory rights which allow us 10 days to return even after we opened and used.