Gamersmint writes : In a recent interview, David cage had good things to say about the PS3 and he also called wii a Toy.
anyone else surprised
Well it seems he is referring to the tech base. Wii has online but it is a joke compared to other network, and they used friends code. It has the ability to play dvd and yet Nintendo decided not to enable that feature. He is comparing the power advantage that the PS3 has over the wii, hell the 360 makes the wii look like a toy. The wii is last gen still even though it was the console that really pushed motion tech, the specs of the wii are not that special compared to other consoles. "I think at some point people make the difference between something that is like a toy, a funny boardgame like the Wii, and a real… well a real multimedia center with an extremely strong videogame experience”" The PS3 has so much more stuff that it can do that is why he is using boardgame and multimedia center, compare those 2 and yeah it's true. The Wii has great games though, can't deny that. @Below judging from the comments most of them have not even attempted to read the article to understand what he means
Yes, of course that is exactly what he was talking about: “When you have a game console like the Playstation that has a hard drive, a blu-ray reader, that connects to the internet, and does a billion other things, and that has a “hard” in terms of games that really is extraordinary, well, I think at some point people make the difference between something that is like a toy, a funny boardgame like the Wii, and a real… well a real multimedia center with an extremely strong videogame experience” The title is just fanboy journalism spin. @Above Exactly, that's why I wanted to put the actual quote. And then you added to your comment. So sorry for the redundancy.
Thanks for clearing that up Nitro, it's unfortunate how much spin a random N4G poster can possess over the reality of a dev's comment. And it's even more unfortunate that people don't read actual content. Remember that fiasco with Ted Price? Anyways, if it's a toy then it looks like a pretty fun toy. Although I completely look down upon the Wii's lack of next gen features I can still enjoy it for its games. I think the Wii is just as capable as any PS3/360 title to make a solid gaming experience, despite its hardware shortcomings. Tools are only as great as the people that use them, but it's definitely time for an update.
Just cuz the ps3 and xbox360 can do more doesnt make the wii anyless a toy compare to the HD twins. It just to show you that Nintendo dont need other multimedia to help it sell more to the consumers. Beside David Cage is pro Sony and never gonna be making games for other console
@na-no-nai http://www.gamespot.com/xbo... hello, created by quantic dream, David cage is one of the founder of QD. There been rumor lately that hgis next project is multiplat " help it sell more to the consumers" like i stated this is tech wise not sales wise, Cage doesn't mention anything about sales he is talking about the tech.
"judging from the comments most of them have not even attempted to read the article to understand what he means" That's why this site should be called "H4G" (Headlines for gamers). Just looking at the top poster;s comment is already crippling my IQ. **looks at na-no-nai's comment.. I guess "Figure-of-speech" doesn't exactly translate to you very well does it. Wait, you DID read the article.... right? -End statement
@ people still commenting without realizing the quote out of context.
"Wii has online but it is a joke compared to other network, and they used friends code" Actually its unified. Its up to the developers, they do not have to use friendcodes. There are games out there that use a different system. "The Wii has great games though, can't deny that. " So in what does this "toy" nonsense matter? I love how something that is weaker considered a "toy". While in fact all 3 are. Get over it fangirls.
He is third party so... What is your point again?
yup, they have developed for xbox, PC, and Playstation. This is coming from a third part company
its a toy for fat girls and old people.
I've really been enjoying Kirby and Goldeneye this past couple of months, so while the Wii may not have next gen graphics, it does have many great games and I personally do consider it a video game console, not a toy. This is one time I have to disagree with Mr. Cage. DK Country and Epic Mickey are coming out soon, and then Zelda next year is gonna be awesome!
Gamecube used to be a console but Nintendo repackaged it and marketed the Gamecube 2.0 aka Wii as a toy whether you like it or not.
I don't own the Wii and never plan to, but for him to say that is retarded. I believe without the Wii the Move wouldn't exist. You have to show respect and this guy clearly has none. What a bastard.
how many times do we have to tell you nintendo fanboys that Move is not a copy of the wii! Move is just a device to help utilize the full potential of the PSEye! PSEeye has been in development for a freaking long time!
Lawlz David is a fanboy.
Hate to jump in on a losing bandwagon. But I'd have to agree that his existence is one of pretension and douchebaggery. The guy couldn't direct himself out of a cardboard box. He'd need another director to show him how so he could copy it.
Between the cliched Hispanic pervert, the raging big black guy, and the unexplained sexual contact between the main character and the journalist, I knew I was playing a games that panders to the Hollywood crowd. There is little room for originality when you are busy ripping off Saw, and having fights on conveyor belts while the crooked cops loaf around wondering with innocents they should arrest. Y'know how crooked those big-city cops are.
wii is not a toy, play smg2
Wow, Look dude, everyone loves Nintendo, but the Wii is a joke. A waste of so much potential. And I get that they went for inexpensive, and to get the casual crowd. But the poor online, lack of social features. The lack of HDD, HD, and much more kills it for me.
and your ignorance is killing me.. First off Wii doesnt even need a HDD dumb ass. HD SD cards work wonders on the system. This isnt the 360 or PS3 where you need to do 5 gig installs or do patches to make games work. You need it for Wii ware and I seriously doubt a troll like you could find 64gigs worth of games to fill up a single card. Wii is a social console. Just not built for online socializing. You know not for nerds and lsoers that need to be in a fake online world pretending to be cool (Home). Poor online? Funny it works just fine for me and in all my time of playing online I never used a friend code. Just another example of you letting your ignorance of something determine how you feel. It is funny to hear some kid call the fastest selling console in history with the highest rated game this gen a joke without comprehending that the joke of a console beats his in every way that really matters. Other than HD, blue ray there is nothing on the PS3 that the Wii cannot do also. BLuetooth, Wifi, free online(PSn is shitty compared to Live but the excuse is always that it is free well Wii online is free too and not near as bad as you haters make it out to be.) You are probably one of the many fanboys on this site that are excited to finally play tue next gen games like Move Tiger woods. Wii owners have been playing those type next gen games for 4 years kid.
Then so if every other game console.
I cant believe he said that
I agree with him, lets just leave it at that
I love David Cage's prior work and respect him as a game designer and writer, but I have to disagree! The Wii is only perceived as a toy because of the waves of shovelware and kiddy games that are on the console and the casual audience that massively supports it. It is still a great games console with great games. Some mature titles, and many which don't take themselves too seriously.
Please. Don't fall for the fanboy site's spin. He was talking about the Wii being more of a pick up and play console than the PS3 with its giant Blu-Ray drive, harddrive, and other highend multimedia features.
Yep. Guess I shouldn't jump to conclusions. And dammit.. double post!! :(
Complete BS. Sony and their legion of fanboys have stopped at nothing to give the Wii that name. Sony even called motion controls for kids and every Sony fanboy repeated Sony. If what you were claiming had any truth to it at all the PS2 would have been treated the same way with its massive amount of kids games and shovelware.
Firstly, are you kidding me? Sony fanboy slurring the name of Ninteno and the Wii? There is a closer affiliation with Sony and Nintendo than any other console manufacturer this gen. Sony fans and Wii fans have the closest affiliation. That's why PS3 fans are welcoming games like No More Heroes, Epic Mickey, Dead Space Extraction and more to their console with open arms. (Just the thought of Epic Mickey coming to 360 would have 360 fanboys snorting with laughter). If anything 360 hardcores are the ones slurring the name of the Wii and mocking it as a kiddy console. 360 is apparently the 'mature gamer's console', when in fact there are more mature gamers on PS3. But that is not relevant here. Secondly, if you'd be kind enough to read my comment in depth and notice that I complimented the Wii and it's games, but just that it has a convoluted library of shovelware and the majority of its supporters are casual gamers i.e. families and kids. so there's the 'Toy' perception for you.
Wii did it first, who couldn't improve upon it after 4 yrs?
This isnt an insult, Nintendo sells their products as toys. That isnt necessarily a bad thing
also in my opinion the other 2 consoles are slowly progressing towards being a toy. we need more mature driven games even if they're rated t for teen.
I beg to differ. The ps3 is grown man business. The hardware itself would boggle Einsteins mind back in his days.
If a PS3 would boggle Einstein's mind, a Cray computer would blow it the fuck up.
any computer architecture with unprotected program memory like the ps3 would certainly boggle his mind... why wouldn't you pick turing or von neumann for this example anyways? the former formalized computer science mathematically, the latter and two other people invented the von neumann architecture computers have used since the beginning (and merge sort)
I think it's quite evident by now. Prove me otherwise!
He took words right out of my mouth.
And your games are silly, like seriously the silliest shit ever. In his games you can somehow fail at turning door knobs or cracking an egg and watch the entire animation repeat! So cinematic, so enthralling!
Are the Xbox and Playstation not toys? People take their shit too seriously.
Wii is toy.
I can buy all 3 at toys R us.
The Wii is a toy because? It has motion controls? MOVE? Stupid ass developer... Of course its a toy, all 3 consoles are electronic toys, and we play games with our toys.
Put down the malt liquor and read the article gangsta. Never said anything about motion controls.
Show me where it says it's because of motion controls? I like how you mention Move and not Kinect too. Hah. You're a sly one aren't you?
Kinect doesn't really pertain to the conversation though. He calls all of the consoles toys so he isn't really singling anybody out. Not everybody is attacking Papa Sony, aight?
Just curious. Is a Dildo a toy in your opinion?
we play it,so its a toy same as other things we play with
It is a toy. Is this something new?
"a device regarded as providing amusement; "private airplanes are a rich man's toy"" So toys have to be for rich people. Wii isnt a toy afterall.
Nintendo has always marketed toward the younger demographics, right from the beginnings. Post apocalypse of the crash, the NES wasn't marketed as a video game console (if memory serves me right, the NES was marketed as a toy instead).
I think N4G should have a rule, if you havent clicked on the source, then you cant comment.
No man. You can tell EVERYTHING the articel has to say from the title alone. David Cage obviously has a blood feud to settle with nintendo wii for stealing his high school sweetheart. I can tell from the title!
I wish there was a way you had to link you PSN, XBL or Wii account to N4G. That way there would be no multiple accounts and at least you know you are talking to people that actually own gaming consoles and not just some kids or loser adults that are here to troll. Trolling being their source of entertainment and not actually being gamers.
The fanboy's spin on this site get more and more pathetic each day.
What did everybody play for an hour on Christmas day, then shelve on boxing day to collect dust? Monopoly......I mean a Wii
Then I shelved it. Barring of course the occasional Metroid play through.
wii dominates my xbox and ps3. If not for Fallout: NV taking all my time I'd be playing Kirby. I'm buying COD for wii because I can actually aim on it. This won't change till next dragon age, mass effect, or Project Dark are released.
Whatever, still having a great time with the games. And in the end that is all that matters.
isnt a device thats meant to PLAY GAMES a toy. regardless of brands.... just saying
I got enough bang for my buck with the wii it had a lot of shovel ware but it's first party games were fantastic. It doesn't do any online or multimedia stuff unlike my ps3 and 360, but i like being able to take a break from games that are drenched in brown realism were a man with a neck the size of my torso bitches about his missing wife in between his chainsaw and curbstomop sessions, to play a game where I'm a plumer riding a dinosaur and fighting a turtle in space. Oh and all video game systems are toys
Its funny because 20% of 360 owners moved over to wii and same with ps3 so it must be a good TOY because alot of 360/ps3 gamers jumped ship sick of same old games just getting sequels that 90% of the time dont do justice to the original end of the wii still has a solid line up much more diverse than ps3/360 and the MOVE games so far are crap 3/10 on that fighting game not 1 game has scored an average of 6/10 very poor the next revolution/evolution in controls will be Wii2 but the wii isnt a TOY its a Entertainment System/Games console remind me what games r at the top at Metacritic oh Nintendo with Ocrina and Galaxy/Galaxy2 and what games franchises do top devs respect the most oh Mario/Zelda/Metroid Kojima says mario games r what made him the developer he is today and warren spector says Ninty are the hollywood of the video game industry google it devs respect Ninty warren spector said his Epic Mickey team is the best team he has worked with and if any1 can equal Nintys quality its Disney thats how big Nintendo are and wii is most successfull console in history END OF
To call wii a toy is like calling ps3 a dvd player its ignorant what people are shying away from is there are at least 15/20 games on wii with comparable/equal/better graphics,Sony just said psp can match ps3 graphics wise so there u have it core Graphics have nothing to do with dual core cpu or how high ur clock speed is its down to what that GPU can do Motion blur/AA/ect Mhz means nothing
oh man, this thing again? and ppl raging again? sigh -_-
If you would want that your wii doesn't collect dust - buy some games! :) and wii is awesome console, da best - at the moment for me baby :) it really has a hill of good games, but people are ignorant to see them or can't play because of lack of HD or good graphics..
wii= the worlds best selling and most innovative toy since the rubiks cube. A toy enjoyed by people of every age group. ps3= glorified blu ray player move= sex toy 360= shit kinect= dont make me laugh
All video games and consoles are just expensive toys. Most of us are too insecure to admit it.