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Nintendo: Microsoft and Sony are playing 'Follow the Leader'

A new era of motion control gaming kicks of tomorrow, November 4th of 2010, as Microsoft releases its Kinect system. Kinect takes a novel new approach to motion-controlled video gaming by eliminating handheld controllers altogether and instead relying on the player's body to literally become the controller. Roughly a month ago, rival company Sony released its own motion control system in what's known as PlayStation Move, which uses a more conventional handheld controller scheme coupled with a small video camera that tracks the movements of players and the PS Move controllers.

Both of these, however, had been beaten to the punch by Nintendo which made the gamble with a fully motion-controlled home gaming console when the Wii was released on November 19th of 2006 -- a fact that Nintendo isn't shy to point out.

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MeatPopsicle2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

Nintendo should be more worried about their falling Wii sales.

Sony started work on their motion controls way back in the PS2 days. The PS2 had its Eye Toy motion controls long before the Wii was released. And the Move also goes all the way back to pre-Wii days, it just too longer for Sony to finish perfecting. From the constant talk of how incredibly accurate Move is and how it is what the Wiimote should have been, it clearly paid off for all those years of work for Sony.

deadreckoning6662786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

They have the 3DS coming out in NA early next year...between Nintendo, Sony, and M$, Nintendo has the least to worry about. As far as commercial success, Nintendo will be the leader on the console and portable front for a very long time.

"i'm no fan of nintendo but frankly the copycatting by ms and sony is shameless and kinda sad."

Agreed..but at least Move isn't affecting the crapton of first-party games coming out on the PS3 next year. Microsoft will most likely use the profit they get from Kinect and XBL Gold subscriptions to get permanent exclusivity of the COD franchise. Its the only way I see them having success in 2011 on the hardcore front.

Gears 3 is a helluva franchise..but if the same gamers who play Gears see Uncharted 3, then Microsoft is gunna have some problems. Sony needs to spend more on its marketing. Their exclusives, for the most part, are unquestionably great...but if no one knows about them...

MeatPopsicle2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

"Sony needs to spend more on its marketing."

The PS3 is the third fastest selling console in history. Is outselling the Wii 2 to 1 in Japan right now. Dumped the 360 into last place in both Japan and Europe a long time ago. And is just a few hundred thousand consoles away from dumping the 360 into last place in worldwide installed base.

All while the PS3 has been the most expensive console in history and still is 300 dollars, the launch price of the PS2.

Sounds like Sony's marketing is doing an amazing job.

Every gen a console company has some old franchises die or fall out of popularity while new one are created and have future in coming generations. Nintendo really is potentially in trouble outside of their core franchises. There really aren't the major third party franchises that existing Wii owners are looking forward to in a next gen Nintendo console. Perhaps Nintendo will pull another rabbit out of their hat with another console that pulls off another Wii style surprise hit. But if all they have if an HD Wii they are in serious trouble next gen.

I really want to play a real next gen 1080p 3D Mario game with a normal controller.

NecrumSlavery2786d ago

Well thanks for following 3D there Nintendo.

Skip_Bayless2786d ago

When "push comes to shove" Nintendo is going to wane. They're using an outdated forumla that consists of old mascots and not really changing anything. As the adoption of HDTV and online gaming rises Nintendo's business will wane because they will struggle to adapt. That is where the money is being made the online DLC and software sales. The few Nintendo games that are selling like crazy are killing the competition in the Wii library. 3rd party developers don't want to make a game that's not going to sell well and not going to have recognition of being a great game. And this is about the console front.

On the handheld side of things Nintendo has that locked down.

darthv722786d ago

I will agree with you on the development of the ps2 motion controls. Problem with that back then was they couldnt sell it. The camera was never given the right marketing team to really make it a must have item.

The old phrase from the movie field of dreams sums it up. If you build it, they will come. Well, for sony, if they build it, market it, support it, get others to support it then they will come.

In business, it isnt about who did it first. It's about who can sell it better. You can tell everyone in the world that kinect is a next gen eyetoy but it wont matter. It is getting the marketing and support and that is what i think most sony fans are REALLY upset about.

It is like a political race. The one who throws the most money into the campaign generally has a better shot of winning. Not ALWAYS the case but you get the idea.

A smear campaign of old eyetoy footage to show that kinect is no better....maybe they should have started sooner cause it looks like it isnt working.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon2786d ago

Hasn't Sony been working on the Move since early 2000? And wasn't there video demonstrating this first rough draft?

"Research on the PlayStation Move began as early as 2001"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Immortal3212786d ago

to dish out some of the most inspiring games, so the other 2 can follow.

come on nintendo Im counting on you.

badz1492786d ago

wanna piece of the lime lights there, aren't ya? with MOVE and Kinect on front page of almost all gaming sites at the moment and Wii sales falling, price for the upcoming 3DS and then posting loss quarter after a run of profit ones...I think I can understand that. the "it prints money" joke is over now ha?

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Shaman2786d ago

Agreed.But at the same time,lets be honest.Nintendo is a leader,undisputed leader of gaming industry since its birth,when you think of gaming you think of Nintendo and when you think about kinect and move you think,Wii HD :)

Nathaniel_Drake2786d ago

"undisputed leader of gaming industry since its birth"???

Am I crazy but didn't Sony release two platforms called I don't know PS one and PS2, where was Nintendo at the time the leader in gaming??

Please, Nintendo crapped the big one whenever PSone and PS2 were released against their N64 and Gamecube. They just now this gen became the leaders

sharif6992786d ago

Nintendo is not the all time leader

turok2786d ago

say wut u will but the undisputed fact is the best game of all time is one of the nintendo exclusives. no need to say more. and its release was during the ps1 years

DigitalAnalog2786d ago

Nintendo spearheaded the gaming industry to a "world-wide" phenomena.

FACT.

Gaming leader? Not since the NES/SNES days. Mediocre hardcore game sales is living proof that 80 million consoles can't get proper support from Top-tier publishers.

-End statement

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Gen0ne2786d ago

It's kinda true. Nintendo did in fact blaze this trail 1st. Yes, I know Sony had been working on their own prior, but Nintendo beat them to the punch. That took some real balls on their part. 1st ones to jump in the pool, only to turn around and say to the others,"The water's great!" Now if they would only do something about that SERIOUSLY dated Wii tech...

big_silky2786d ago

nintendo made a metric crap-ton of profit, i'm sure they couldn't care less.

i'm no fan of nintendo but frankly the copycatting by ms and sony is shameless and kinda sad.

Neckbear2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

If Sony developed said tech oh-so-many-years-ago, then why didn't they release it? Aside from the EyeToy, of course, wich I may add was a failure in my book.

Oh, they're releasing it now because Nintendo was successful with it.

They ARE playing "follow the leader".

Shaman2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

Of course they are.There is nothing wrong with that,whats wrong is the constant Sonys and MS "bashing" of Wii and Nin couple years ago.Give credit where credit is duo,show respect and no body will even care about "following a leader" but MS and Sony made mistake about it,now changed their mind when they saw it worked for Nintendo and now people are butthurth trying to defend them.

Its like in following the tech...Everybody is following the leaders(Germany,Japan and USA) but no body is really playing smart about it so nobody cares :)

CharlesDCI2786d ago

Because the PS2 wasn't powerful enough to do what Sony wanted with motion control. Selling a lot of consoles doesn't mean you lead anything, especially when people hardly play the games on your console.

Seferoth752786d ago

"Selling a lot of consoles doesn't mean you lead anything, "Had to lol at the noob comment..

Of course it means something kid, that is how Sony won the last two gens. Idiots like you really need to either stfu or get some knowledge of gaming history before opening your mouth.

Sony gamers once again showing their ignorance.

GCNSeanFoster2786d ago

Nintendo had the balls to release the technology, and in the process change the face of gaming. People laughed at the Wii, yet its been kicking both Sony and Microsoft's butt since day one.

Also, people need to do their homework when blabbing about the Move being in development since 2001 and posting "Wikipedia" sources... The Wii was conceived in 2001 as well... And here is the source...

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

I laugh at the people on here bashing Nintendo. If anything you can thank Nintendo for reviving videogames with the NES...

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visualb2786d ago

someone's always leads.

to see this as a bad thing is silly.

true though

Blacktric2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

" The PS2 had its Eye Toy motion controls long before the Wii was released"

No buttons, like most of you are saying for Kinect.

"And the Move also goes all the way back to pre-Wii days, it just too longer for Sony to finish perfecting."

You mean that super simple tech demo made with EyeToy way back in the beginning of 2000's?

Accuracy doesn't mean anything to most gamers out there, "as long as" developers can make innovative and great games. Besides, Wii Motion Plus is nearly as good as Move and considering the Wii's library and price, it beats Move in "nearly" every area. Maybe Wii can't produce graphics like PS3 can but there are tons of games from first party developers, there are sequels for old games that keeps coming out for die hard Nintendo fans, there are also tons of WiiWare and Classic Nintendo/Sega games on Wii Shop, etc. Don't try to compare a newly released "add on" with a 4 year old console that costs only 200 dollars and has tons of games.

Edit: If you are gonna disagree, please do share with us why?.

Edit 2 for below: So you mean games like Kirby's Epic Yarn, Epic Mickey, Conduit 2, Zelda Skyward Swords is for kids? Then Borderlands is for kids, because its graphics are cartoonish. This is why you said "newer" games are for kids right? Thinking that Legend Of Zelda, a franchise that's been around for 25 years is for kids just makes me wanna LMAO all day long.

shoddy2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

It's the quality.

Nintendo games should not be the leader in gaming industry.
It's just for kids.

Neckbear2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

"Nintendo never games should not be the leader in gaming industry.
It's just for kids."

Now this is where you go wrong.

"Mature" games don't equal "Hardcore" games.

Kirby's Epic Yarn is an enjoyable, fun game. No, it doesn't has tons of blood and gore, but I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Vanquish, both games being close to the best experiences I've had this year.

Guns and gore =/= Hardcore game.

If you seriously think about it otherwise, god, stop being such a kid and grow up. Nobody will judge you and say OMG DATS 4 KIDZ I PLAY HALO/COD/KILLZONE INSTEAD BRAH IMA H4RC0R3 GEYMERZ or something of the likes.

Remember, videogames are just that, games. Be childish-looking or not, a fun game is a fun game.

SactoGamer2786d ago

I thought Trix were for kids.

SkylineR2786d ago

Wow, the old Sony fanboy insult from the PS1/2 days. I see it hasn't died yet.

Pathetic really.

If you're sad enough to not give games like Zelda, Smash Brothers or Metroid a go because they're "for kids", then you have no clue about games nor should you call yourself a gamer. All those franchises have amazing quality values too.

shoddy2785d ago (Edited 2785d ago )

I feel gay owning a Wii for myself.

when I was younger I'm a Nintendo fan.
NES is my first game system.
I'm a fan of Link, Metroid, Mario crew, donky kong crew and so on.

That's just my child hood.

Blacktric2785d ago

You feel "gay"? Hahhaha oh my God. These mindless idiots were first attacking Xbox 360, then Wii and now homosexuals? You guys are seriously funny. In a silly and pathetic way.

shoddy2785d ago (Edited 2785d ago )

not attacking anyone. I'm cool with gay people.
you brought it up yourself.

my opinion.

chill out raging gay fanboy.

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Cold 20002786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

So you are implying that Sony would have launched the Move anyway even if the Wii never existed ?? That it was already all planned by Sony ? Oh please...

MinskyM2786d ago

Yes. Sony spent the last decade working on their Move technology just not release it...

Nintendo obviously made Sony go back in time...

Knushwood Butt2786d ago

Just look what the leader has lined up for the holiday season.

Mario Sports Mix

Donkey Kong Somethingorother

Erm, Kirby's Epic Yarn

Personally, I don't think that is a lead worth following.

Blacktric2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

Because holiday season is the most important part of a console's life-cycle right? If there won't be at least 5 decent games, releasing in holiday season, that system fails. Love you fanboys' logic really. All twisted and stuff. Always forgets something. Like Wii only costs 199 dollars, has crapload of games for everyone out there and "most games" has native motion control support.

MysticStrummer2786d ago

That crapload of games isn't for everyone out there if I and many others have no interest in any of them. OT - Deny the truth all you want, both MS and Nin copied Sony. Nin just put their tech in a "good enough" state before launching, while Sony waited to make it more precise. MS chose the "it's cool and innovative because we said so" technique with Kinect. Wii is not the best console, just like Avatar is not the best movie of all time. This will be known as the Sales = Quality Generation. Also, every other generation has been about exclusives, and now suddenly it's about multiplats. Strange times are these.

Knushwood Butt2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

@Blacktric

I never said the holiday season is the most important part of the system life cycle. Simply highlighted that their lineup is, well, not exactly inspiring.

Regardless, look a bit further down the line and things are no better. Third parties have all but abandoned the Wii. The new Zelda is still vapourware and I really wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo did another Twillight Princess with it and dragged it as a launch title for their next console.

'Like Wii only costs 199 dollars, has crapload of games for everyone out there and "most games" has native motion control support.'.

Are you serious? Assuming you are, then what does this have to do with playing follow the leader, and the importance of a console's life cycle?

Wii sales are falling and the future is grim. It isn't long before Nintendo just drop the Wii outright, just like they did the GC. I wonder how happy you will be when that happens? I guess you won't mind because you'll just keep drinking the Nintendo Kool Aid and will be busy playing the new Zelda game on the Wii 2.

BillOreilly2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

Dude did you start gaming on the ps3 or something? I dont know ANYONE who isnt looking forward to donkey kong the best franchise ever. Kirby rocks too btw. These games are classics and 2d sidescrollers never go out of style. Ive been waiting since snes days for the new donkey kong.
Dont forget the last story, xenoblade, games like mh3 and the like, the wii has bomb 3rd party support.

blazed132786d ago

with donkey kong and kirby alone its enough to be leader. and i bet those game will sell alot more than what sony and microsoft lineups will sell.

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cmrbe2786d ago

in a way what Nin is saying is true.

Move i am sure was in development before the wii but the wii popularise motion gaming to a new level.

I really do think that the wii forced both MS and Sony to look serious at motion gaming and basically hurried up the development of both the move and Kinetic. In the case of Kinetic. MS just bought the tech.

Lets not kid ourselves here. Without the wii i am pretty sure both MS and Sony wouldn't have been more enthuastic about motion gaming.

tinybigman2786d ago

wasn't sony doing causal games back on the ps2 along with core games?

AWBrawler2786d ago

so you believe that Sony was working on move way back when, and it just coincidentally looks like a wiimote with a bulb? sure! whatever helps you sleep. And Dreamcast was trying motion before PS2, and NES and Genesis were doing it before then

N4g_null2785d ago

Even with the move Sony has failed to get people to buy games. It's been four years the gen is pretty much over. I finally got sin and punishment and epic yarn today after a very big project. True people bought it but notice how sales of the console are not dependent on it.

Movie gaming is going to be the death of Sony. Today a major movie studio file bankruptcy. The whole ooooohhhhh Sony did it first is sad also. Nintendo is not even using a cam and they almost have the same functionality. Infact they have the same sdk tools. On top of all of this if Sony had this tech for so long why did gow skip out on it? I've played uncharted and maybe the aiming would be better.

I've also played a few wii games and guess what they are still more fun. Square enix disease is catchy capcom mega man co creator knows this. Sony is in desperate need of a game that goes beyond there core fans right now.

On top of this they have to some how reverse years of casual gaming masceraiding as hardcore gaming. Most of you have no idea of what I'm talking about but you do understand that Sony only brands are fading.

True you may not like the nintendo games coming and maybe the wii has saturated the market yet one thing is for sure. Third parties are slowly loosing their magic and more anti game fans are being created that only want a few types of games.

Put bluntly the hardcore doesn't have the skills are imagination to create or be interested in playing video games in a console form it seems. The gaming media has done a horrible job also.

Frankly the only company I see weathering the storm is nintendo. I mean seriously an 8bit sequel crushed you last year. They still have it but are trying to figure out how to bring the hardcore back to being gamers out to have fun.

The marketing has always been bad for gaming which is why people though gamers where nerds. That's another thing yet nintendo is fine apparently nintendo needs to fire that one Sony employee they have working on metriod lol and all will be good.

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Fishy Fingers2786d ago

Well you cant blame them, other than selling a lot less consoles, the 360/PS3 fans have always been crying out for motion control, not once do I recall people dismissing the Wii because of it, so you can now understand why everyones arguing over whos is better, nothing to do with fickle brand loyalty :)

Boody-Bandit2786d ago (Edited 2786d ago )

Without the /S (sarcasm tag) you are going to send some into a frenzy.

Megaton2786d ago

Those are my favorite people. The ones who hated on the Wii, but praise the Move. Those who think EyeToy/PS Eye was motion cam crap, but think Kinect is the future of gaming.

The PSThriimote might be more advanced tech than the Wiimote, but it's used the same way. The MS Eye might be more advanced tech than the EyeToy, but you're still playing the same kind of games.

Don't get me wrong here. I'm a total Wii/EyeToy hater, but at least I'm also a Move/Kinect hater. Consistency, people. Consistency!

air12786d ago

go nintendo!

you still have the weakest holiday bundle though.

gamingisnotacrime2786d ago

Move is an addition to what the PS3 offers, other than the move the similarities between Ninty and Sony are few and far in between