When Apple passed Microsoft in market cap this past May, the Microsoft fanboys were out in full force. “This means nothing.” “Microsoft still makes so much more money than Apple.” “Look at the revenues.” Okay, let’s look at the revenues.
u may be dissapointend after seeing the huge sucess MS products will be.
Did you just completely ignore btk's comment? The only thing that's been successful is their OS. Everything else has completely failed, and I'm pretty sure that if Kinect isn't a huge success, the Xbox brand will be dropped. Sure, it's sold quite a lot, but they have almost no first party, they don't have the money to buy third party exclusives (wasted on Kinect), the PS3 is rapidly catching up, and next year looks pretty much dead for the 360. Unless Kinect has a Wii-level effect, you can kiss the Xbox brand goodbye.
Hmmm, I'm pretty sure that MS would consider Office and the Xbox success stories. MS is only in their second console cycle and they are already playing on par with Sony and Nintendo for brand recognition. If you consider that a failure then you and I have very different definitions of the word failure.
They still made over 541 million in profits. The rest of this stuff is just bragging rights. Outside of Oil Companies, Apple and Google what company's are posting that kind of profit. I heard that stock holders earned 62 cents a share. They made money!!!!! The only real complaint is that the stock price is not higher. Oh by the way where would they be without that Billion dollars from Xbox live. Why in anyone's mind would they drop a business that brings in over a Billion dollars? Do some thinking people. MS is doing great. The only thing people see though is Apple is doing better.
I don't believe everyone buys into the apple belief. There are so much better products out there (psp, ds, pc's, etc), apple is like Wii, just following a trend. Let's just see how long they can hold on to that trend. It will be a cold day in hell before I shell out 600 bucks for an ipad when I can get a tablet pc with dual core, 3 gb ram and 250 gb hdd with Win7 for about the same price. Plus people forget that MS owns the patent to play music off portable HDD which every i product uses and that MS bought 150 million dollars of apple stock back when there shares weren't going for anything at all. Trust me, MS is not hurting at all.
PS3 has caught up, it like a million behind now only. That's pretty much a tie game. I don't get MS's focus on casual gaming now, last gen there were over hundred million gamers that bought PS2 which was mainly a core gamer system. This gen's there's over 80 million and growing - it's still a huge market of customers that won't lose interest very quickly and who buy a lot of different games. PS3 has cemented itself as the core gamers system of choice now while 360s lost almost all of its first parties, refuses to put money behind acquiring any more and has completely turned casual in its focus. 500 mill on marketing alone for casual Kinect and not one new first party core IP for next year.
Those Microsoft owned apple shares were sold along time ago. Apple products are well made enough that a cycle of last gen iPhone owners have upgraded rather than migrated. I think you are mistaking a fundamental concept about apple and lifestyle computing and how or why it is successful. It's great that you'll be getting one of those uber specced tablet systems coming out. Yeah it's nice you'll be getting 2x the speed and 4x the capacity of my current iPad (I'm typing with one right now). But what are we using this tablet for? Photoshop? Video editing? With 1ghz, I am accessing everything on my iPad in less than four seconds... I dont have downtime when i need the ipad for occasional productivity. What does a dual core processor going to do for me? Draw more battery life? A 250gb drive... What for? If I need to do real work... I do it on a workstation which is 5 if not 10x faster with easily quadruple the capacity. Isn't lifestyle computing more about how easily everything works? How I can supplement and enhance my computing lifestyle? With a 1.5 lb tablet... I can do that. In fact I enjoy looking at people lugging their ten lb laptop bags to check email here in shanghai's Starbucks. It's overkill for checking email. Everybody thinks apple is just a company that makes pretty cases... How are they able to draw a crowd of hype for TEN years now? Are you saying the consumer is that stupid?
its funny how these people bash such a successful company when they can never start a company to be so successful you dont have shit on MS, never have, never will until you have your own company thats making profit in the billions stfu :)
Dont mean to be pedantic, but unless you have your own billion dollar company shouldnt you take your own advice?
movie critics should be movie directors, actors and producers before they crit a movie game reviewers should have to be a game developer before they review a game citizens should be presidents and politicians before they criticize their government food critics should be able to have their own resturants, and be able to cook better than the cooks they are evaluating before they crit a dish / resturant music reviewers have to be in the most successful bands in the world before they can judge some of the more successful ones ... you have officially written the must ignorant comment i've ever seen on this site well done sir.
I remember when Apple wasn't cool..
Apple was always cool, just not in the majorities opinion. I had Mac computers since I was a kid, they had one colour green screens.
With the iPhone 4 and iPad all releasing in 2010 it was obvious apple was going to be the top dog. MS this year just didn't have any good products......the kin anyone?
And this is related to Gaming news how?
Apple is trying to get into the game market with the iPhone / iPad, and will likely join the market in another way sooner or later.
Apple IS in the game market if you haven't noticed. R*, Capcom, Konami, Sega, Epic, the list goes on of the companies that have already developed games. I dont see the problem here? Both companies won't die out for a long time, they pretty much provide a necessity to digital living. Sales will differentiate between the two, but people wont stop buying computers and it will continue to rise.
I have never seen so much hate for a company, besides enron, LOL. Its astonishing how much some of you N4g analysts want them to fail. They still made billions of profit. There is always gonna be a company that makes more than another company. There is always gonna be a company that makes less than another company. Its the nature of the business. Microsoft pushed pc into the mainstream with windows 95. I know I have liked gaming a whole lot since then (cd's anyone). Apple has been around for years also and just started making a push once they released the ipod. That is what really jump started their current/recent success. Its funny how every other product, besides their mac line, is based off of the ipod. Hell the ipad is just a huge ipod touch and people pay the price of a good mid level gaming pc for that. So yeah, Apple is gonna make alot of money off of suckers, LOL. But hey, you're cool. And Microsoft isn't the only company competing with apple in the mp3 player department but people always focus on them. You guys do know that sony has made numerous ipod competitors right? Creative labs? Where are those sales numbers. I never want Microsoft to go under. If they do go under other companies will also suffer in the long run because microsoft, not Apple, has helped them become names in the pc market. Apple would never let anyone use their O.S. in so many different configs as Microsoft does and thats a fact. But good job Apple, good job Microsoft, and good job to any company making a profit.....................exc ept the credit card companies and the banks. I cringe at what citi did to people to earn such profits. Just sad
There is generally no thinking through to the end result of hating on a company. The fact is that there are a lot of people who have stock in MS in one way or another, whether directly or in the form of funds in their 401K. A complete failure of MS would crush those folks. Additionally, MS along with Apple, are American success stories. Why would people want them to fail??
not fail, but change.
most of the PS3 fans here, and many other people literally want them to fail. That is how young folks are these days, no critical thinking skills what so ever. "I like PS3 more than Xbox therefor I want M$ to fail and screw all the millions of people who count on them to exist." Do you idiots have any idea how well MS treats its employees? Those people alone would be devastated if MS went under. But all you morons see is the "big evil corporation", you kids took your socialist college professors waay too serious. More good comes from most "big evil corporations" than bad, and certainly more good comes from big corporations than Government.
well they may, but i dont.... for as much as microsoft and apple irritate the shit out of me every now and then they do have some really solid products, and like you said they are american and are at the top without being in the petroleum industry. i just wish apple would be less arrogant and closed, and i wish microsoft would be more consistent, and focus on quality over quantity. i wish they both would stop nickel and dimeing us...
That sucks because I know we are stock holders not gamers...WTFC?
You don't know much about Chrome OS, do you? (Chrome OS) will not be available as a download to run and install. Instead, Chrome OS is only shipping on specific hardware from manufacturers Google has partnered with. That means if you want Chrome OS, you’ll have to purchase a Chrome OS device. Read More http://www.wired.com/gadget... On Topic, 16 and 20 BILLION? That's great for both company's.
Apple has more fingers in more pies...those greedy bastards ah well, 4 year old iPod video and 4 year old MacBook Pro and they both work like day one. I cant complain about their products..then again, these are 4 year old Apple products, I don't know how good /reliable they are now days so won't make judgement...
I'll agree here. My daughter has my old ass ipod color. I have one of the first Mac Book Pro's. This thing has been dropped, fell down the stairs with me,etc. Aside from the hard drive failing and a single fan failure, both of which I have since fixed, the laptop still does everything I could want it to. Their stuff is expensive, but I give it points for durability. On a side note, I still prefer a good ole windows PC for a standard/gaming desktop, any day of the week.
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