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Submitted by -Mezzo- 1463d ago | rumor

PSP2 Will Ditch the UMD, May Rival Xbox 360 In Horsepower

Kotaku: The Playstation Portable 2, rumored to have dual analog sticks, a bigger screen and touch controls, will also rival the Xbox 360 in processing power and ditch the UMD format, sources tell Kotaku.

Earlier this week multiple sources detailed meetings with Sony during the Tokyo Game Show about the long-rumored PSP2.

In those meetings about the portable, we were told, the device was shown to have a touch panel on the back of the system what looked like a mouse trackpad. The PSP2 also had dual analog sticks and a larger display which Sony touted as being "HD." (PS Vita, PSP)

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Shanks  +   1463d ago
Dual analog sticks.
No UMD.
A bigger screen.
More powerful tech.
Touch controls.

Day 1.
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Game-ur  +   1463d ago
Consol level COD with 2 analogs on the go
theonlylolking  +   1463d ago
It would be nice if they include l2 and r2 buttons.
AndrewRyan  +   1463d ago
It's been about 4 yeas
Since the Xbox 360 came out. If the PSP doesn't match the 360 in tech I will be dissapointed.
Red_Orange_Juice  +   1463d ago
No UMD doesnt mean download only, UMD was kind of comromised I guess, they'll implement something more secure.
HolyOrangeCows  +   1463d ago
More rumors from Kotaku....I'll believe it when a reliable source comes along with its own info.
darthv72  +   1463d ago
in all honesty
I would expect a new piece of technology to at least be equal to an older piece of technology aside from surpass it.

GameGear rivals the master system. Gameboy rivals the nes. GBA rivals the SNES. DS rivals the gamecube. PSP rivals the ps1-2. It seems only logcal that a next gen psp would try to equate itself to the ps3/360 level of performace. That is only obvious.

Ditching the UMD...good move. Now just fix the DRM and people will get on board with digital downloads.
vulcanproject  +   1463d ago
Wont rival 360 in performance, power constraints and process technology make that unrealistic. But if it uses Tegra 2 it has the potential to perform somewhere in the region of a midrange Geforce 6 series. Nvidia have been struggling with power and heat of Tegra 2 on 40nm, but 28nm could be well established by the time the machine needs to go into production for a late 2011 launch which would instantly solve any such problems.

Although it cannot possibly match the current console performance, it doesnt have to in order to face down their visual capability. This is because on a small screen you dont need a big resolution, something like 960 x 540 would be a great resolution for a 4.5 inch screen or so.

If the machine has 50 percent the performance of a home console and only has to render to 50 percent resolution, the games could just look like pocket versions of current full blown console titles. Mighty impressive for a handheld in other words.
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Ju  +   1463d ago
Yea, 960x540. Something in the range of Alan Wake, wasn't it?
Hideo_Kojima  +   1463d ago
Imagine Fallout 3 Portable...

I would be able to play the most addictive game everywhere I was.
thereapersson  +   1463d ago
Please, PLEASE, NO TOUCH CONTROLS
Give me hardware buttons, or don't even bother. I don't want my fingers blocking 1/4th of the screen space just to control my characters.
Hideo_Kojima  +   1463d ago
@AndrewRyan
Quote "It's been about 4 yeas since the Xbox 360 came out. If the PSP doesn't match the 360 in tech I will be dissapointed"

Are you fucking stupid?

Have you seen how big even the new 360 is?
Why would you think it would be easy to squeeze the power of the new 360 down to a portable console and include the battery and a power brick in it?

If Sony pulls this off I will be amazed.
If they don't I will definitely not be disappointed.
I always expect a lot from Sony but your underestimating how much of a leap this would be.
hikayu  +   1463d ago
@thereapersson
actually , they have dedicated touch strip . it wont use the screen's touch screen as analog sticks , we all know how much @ss they suck . from rumors , it works pretty well even on FPS . but i'll only believe it when i have my hands on it .

in term of power , i dont really need it 2 be much . i know sony like to improve their next gen stuff by ten fold , but i only need 5 =D . im fine with current resolution psp actually . put in LED or OLED screen , a better battery and more efficient chipset, a revamped PSN integration and im sold . it's not too much to ask , is it ?
Fan Tastic  +   1463d ago
So its barely stronger than a PSP. Why bother. At least make it as strong as Wii.
sikbeta  +   1462d ago
WOOW! That's freaking Epic... I want it...

PSP2 FTW!!!
Djinn  +   1462d ago
I can't believe this idiot is getting agrees for asking for a COD game. And lol at the guy asking for L2 and R2 buttons. Why don't you attach a screen to your dualshock and be done with it.
despair  +   1463d ago
as long as there are 2 analog sticks and not digital only I'll breathe easier, we'll know more when they announce it officially, but trusting Kotaku? no thanks.
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Close_Second  +   1463d ago
Digital only preferred.
Why would you want a physical disc format for the PSP2?
NarooN  +   1463d ago
Physical > digital. Go to the store and buy a game, all you get is the fucking case with a download voucher. You go home and try to download the game, and the download either corrupts or the servers go down, etc. When I buy a game, I wanna play it immediately, not wait to friggin' download it. Not to mention space is never an issue for your memory stick or whatever.
Close_Second  +   1463d ago
Fair points...
...but what if you game gets stolen, damaged or lost? If you want the game again you have to buy it again.

Also, why is downloading seen as such a problem. Most people order on-line and have to wait for items to be delivered anyway. PSN is (nearly) always open and you can buy when you like. Most PSP downloads take 10 minutes or so. Less time than going to a store and buying it.
f789790  +   1463d ago
There's also the issue of used games sales with a digital only console. There won't be any!!! That means game prices are going to stay up there.

Oh and you want to play the game again far into the future but you don't own it? You won't get to because the company that made it doesn't exist anymore hence it's absence from the store. Look how long FF7 took to come out.
DigitalAnalog  +   1463d ago
@Close_Second
DD is a poor choice for 3 Reasons:

1. Digital Downloads is NOT universal. I know of people that still do not have fast or proper access to the internet. Seeing how PSP failed due to the lack of 3G support (limiting the consumer to access downloaded games), which brings us to....

2. How big are the games? It's unrealistic to download 4 - 8GB of games all the time (which is the standard this gen). This is where the iPhone games defer, they only take a SMALL amount of memory to download and play.

3. You can quote/unquote STEAM and the like. But let's face it, everyone who has STEAM has (one way or another) a gaming PC with sufficient HDD memory. Consoles games/Handheld game have targets that (believe it or not) ARE CASUAL GAMERS. Where do you think they would store ALL these games in their library? Certainly not in the handheld. Unless this handheld has 1TB worth of free memory since you know this isn't an MP3 player.

-End statement
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Close_Second  +   1463d ago
I never like to fall...
...into a trap of debating capacity. That is download speeds, file sizes, etc. Look at how far we have come in the last 10 years in terms of storage and download speeds. To think that they will remain where they are is just plain rediculous. 10 years ago downloading an entire music album would have been perceived as madness and a reason why on-line music stores would never prevail...now look at where music store retailers are.

Unfortunatly if the PSP2 is a download only device then its being aimed at a different target audience however, what's stopping game stores from provding an in-store download service. That is, walk into a store and pay for the item and have them copy it onto your device right there and then.

As for second hand game sales show me one developer that wants them to stick around. As soon as game DD becomes a practical reality for the majority (which is not far away) you'll see less games being released on disc. Especially at the numbers they are now. I dare say that if fewer physical caopies are floating around that it wont be so cheap to buy second hand anyway. Not when you consider that you may have more games that require you to buy an unlock code anyway if the game has already been registered (e.g. MoH).

Anyway, debating/discussing the issue is irrelevant as DD is the way its all heading whether we like it or not.
RacingLightning01  +   1463d ago
@Close_Second
For one reason limited downloads, the PSN will only let you download your game five times off the network, even with a 16GB of Memory (like with the PSPgo)your going to be limited to the amount of games you play.

I personally hope there will be a physical media drive, of some sort.
DigitalAnalog  +   1463d ago
Digital vs Hard Copies
"Look at how far we have come in the last 10 years in terms of storage and download speeds. To think that they will remain where they are is just plain rediculous. 10 years ago downloading an entire music album would have been perceived as madness and a reason why on-line music stores would never prevail...now look at where music store retailers are."

You can't base your entire argument on that alone. Back when Napster was still the trend, I could easily download as many music as I want without hassle, the only problem is that the MP3 players at that time did not have the "memory" capacity to store the multitudes of songs that came forward. It was not until the introduction of GB storage on a portable device did the DD changed everything.

You only look at one aspect of the situation while you ignore the other. If we're looking at "next-gen" titles, obviously we're talking HUGE amount of GB.

Yes, I agree with you that DD could be the future or in general "soft-copies" are going to be the standard for IPHONE or last-gen type of games. We're now talking about "next-gen" titles. Unless you could fit TB's of information into a portable device, ON TOP OF THAT, a fast internet connection to download SAID games ONLY then would I see DD as a viable option. If you want an example, take the original PSX classics on PSN. 15 years ago, the idea would be crazy. But think HOW FAR it had to go just so that it could be downloaded right onto our PSP's. Heck, we're not even talking about making portable PS2 games yet.

-End statement
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Nicaragua  +   1462d ago
@RacingLightning01
Wrong, you can re-download things from the PSN store as many times as you want to the same PS3/PSP but you can only download it to a maximum of 5 different machines.

So i can buy a PS1 game from the store and have it on my PS3, my PSP, my kids PS3, my kids PSP, and my mates PS3. On those 5 machines i can download it, delete it, re-download it as many times as a i want to.
360RRODFIX  +   1463d ago
i can only imagine price on this thing
LordMarius  +   1463d ago
$599.99
Dr-ZOOM  +   1463d ago
$599.999
KratosGIRL  +   1463d ago
$599.999.99
NAGNEWS  +   1463d ago
$599.99998
Incipio  +   1463d ago
¥647892687421369487231698
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John-117  +   1463d ago
$599.999.999 YOUES DALLARZ

http://cache.gawker.com/ass...
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SSKILLZ  +   1463d ago
$500 is chump change I'm down with the cash.
SuperStrokey1123  +   1463d ago
lol 500 being chump change... sure thing buddy. And i own the moon which is actually made of cheese.
n4f  +   1463d ago
OVER NINE THOUZAAAANNNDDD(9000)!!!!!!11
n4f  +   1463d ago
oh sorry double post
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n4f  +   1463d ago
danm triple post please dont kill me
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DatNJDom81  +   1463d ago
wow for a handheld
That's great. That means multiplats on my psp2.
Scary69  +   1463d ago
$299.99 to compete with the DS 3D :-/
KratosGirI  +   1463d ago
$300-$350 most likely.
nycredude  +   1463d ago
*holds pinky at the corner of mouth*

One BILLION dollars!
saint_seya  +   1463d ago
maybe it will cost just what an amazing new technology is worth :)=
AntoineDodson  +   1463d ago
Maybe it can cost your wife and children...

I can actually see people trading that in for the PSP2 lol
Obama  +   1463d ago
Oprah: It's over 9000!!!!!
fight4love  +   1463d ago
heh this is why i like this site.a lot of funny crap happens.
NarooN  +   1463d ago
It's like N4G wreaks of newfags or something. That $599.99 USD joke got old right after it was created, just like 99.999% of all the memes out there.
FanboyPunisher  +   1463d ago
Whoever posted this, is retarded....
A handheld match a console? 360, good luck! hahah!
Impossible, anyone saying "i'll be disappointed if it doesnt" you clearly have no idea how electronics/handhelds work, power limitations, and performance limitations compared to their outlet counterpart.

Stupudidest article i've read this week, crowned by the PS3 Fanboys that dont know jack shit about tech.
Hideo_Kojima  +   1462d ago
Maximum and I really mean MAXIMUM... 399.99

Most likely 299.99-349.99

It wouldn't make sense to the consumers why a PSP2 cost more than the PS3 although when you think about it a PSP2 also need to include the screen speakers and probably is harder to develop than a home console as you need to compress a lot of power into a very small space.
joydestroy  +   1463d ago
i can tell you now that it won't be all digital. Sony already confirmed that it won't be digital download only like the PSPgo so not sure who gave out this false information.

so, if they are getting rid of UMD, then there will be another type of disc used.
moparful99  +   1463d ago
There are "cart" like storage devices that are near commercial release that supposedly can hold more then a blu-ray disc and are lightning fast since they dont require and optical laser to read and interpret data... Sounds good to me....
despair  +   1463d ago
Isn't there something that stores in a virtual 3D space on a small strip that holds gigs? That would be cool.
kneon  +   1463d ago
I'm pretty sure UMD is dead whatever they do, it's just too big and power hungry.

They could just go with a secure variant of memory stick or SD card to prevent piracy. Stick a JavaCard chip in there to handle the security side and you're good to go. then they can produce various sizes to meet the needs of the games. At the time of launch it would likely be uneconomical to use anything over about 4gb, though if the past decade is any indication that should about double every year.
f789790  +   1463d ago
Kneon, it doesn't matter what type of security Sony implements. There will be SO many hackers jumping on it, it's going to be ridiculous. I'm buying my PSP2 day 1 for all the wonderful security holes in it. Yeah, I'll still buy all my games but I want to play my entire PS2 collection and Mario Kart 64 on it.
kneon  +   1463d ago
Well the PS3 has been quite secure so far, I expect the PSP2 to be at least as secure, if not more given what they've learned and how security has advanced since the PS3 launch.
Hideo_Kojima  +   1462d ago
Are we talking about a new form of flash memory like
memory sticks but with even more storage?
That would be cool if they dont cost $100 like those 32GB memory sticks.
+No more of that slightly annoying spinning sound you get when you play on the PSP.

Edit:
@moparful99
Wait if these cartages hold more than 50GBs and they are cheap enough to be used as game cartages they would most likely replace every single memory stick there is out there on every camera and phone and Sony would once again have the best form of storage in their new console.

Unless they are not rewritable.
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TreMillz  +   1463d ago
if no umd...
PLEASE tell me Sony is finally going to use mini Blu-ray, 16gb of pure joy!
chazjamie  +   1463d ago
wat would be the point?
Close_Second  +   1463d ago
Go digital.
Forget disc format. They're slow, use more battery life and not all that portable. Give me a PSP2 with ample on board memory for storing games.

The thing I love about downloaded PSP games from PSN:
1. You always own them. Having kids you'll appreciate being able to download a game again over having to buy it again if the disc gets lost or damaged.
2. You can use them on up to 5 PSPs!
BannedForNineYears  +   1463d ago
"May rival 360 in terms of horse power".
That's not saying much, the Magnavox Odyssey could rival the 360 in terms of online play/graphics/controller/fun factor. >_>
nilamo  +   1463d ago
The scary thing is some of these trolls actually believe the horse crap they shovel into the comments section
kaveti6616  +   1463d ago
that's too stupid to be funny.
milohighclub  +   1463d ago
i like the idea of the touch pad, i didn't at first. but then i thought it would be cool walk with left analog, camera with right analog, aim with touchpad. dualshock 4 anyone??
bumnut  +   1463d ago
@andrew ryan
it would be nice, but i don't think a device so small will be as powerful as a 360. it may not be too far away though because the games will be running at a lower res on the small screen.
8thnightvolley  +   1463d ago
Funny how they says the 360 is 512ram but forget the ps3 is even smaller at 256 and an added 70 was managed to be sqeezed out so what does tht say mmmm
nycredude  +   1463d ago
Get your facts straight. PS3 has 512 ram also. Can't believe there are still people who are so misinformed.
8thnightvolley  +   1463d ago
So psp2 is more powerful than ps3?.. U see bigger ram means squrat if a computer's composition of its parts is not in sync it does get to be better, I won't believe the psp2 is doing anything close to the processing power of any current Gen console 360 has 3 cores at 3.2ghz and ps3 cell and 7sub processors so how does psp2 want to do that without asking for some mad price of 400 pounds at least
BaneWilliams  +   1463d ago
Don't listen to nycredude
PS3 has 256ram as opposed to 360's 512.

PS3 ALSO has 256 of dedicated Graphics Ram, which the 360 has as well in addition to its 512 base.

Kotaku wrote that article specifically so it would be a fanboy flamer - Because 'may rival PS3 in horsepower' wouldn't get near as much debate and traffic.

Nevermind the fact that 1GB of RAM is still not much considering the fact that most gaming PC's have 6-8 nowadays.
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OpenGL  +   1463d ago
There are smart phones with more than 512MB of RAM but that doesn't meant they are more powerful than the PS3/360.

@ BaneWilliams

The PS3 has 256MB of XDR dedicated to the CPU and 256MB of GDDR3 dedicated to the GPU, where as the 360 has 512MB of RAM that can be divided however the developer wishes amongst the CPU and GPU.
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SiLeNt KNighT  +   1463d ago
@ 8thnightvolley & BaneWilliams
i have 4 shiny quarters, want to trade me for your single $100 bill? thats 4 things for you and 1 for me!

my friends ps3 has 320 gb and my ps3 has 60 gb tho? der de der, ram is good, and so is microsoft cuz they smart and have cool technology and stuff

get your facts straight fellas! especially if your going to try and correct someone. haha 256 + 70 ??? huh? are you referring to the OS footprint as the "added 70"? so were at 326mb of ram in the ps3 then? i tried to think of so many ways not to call you guys stupid but its really hard when i re-read what you typed. unfortunately ive come to the conclusion that you guys are indeed, just stupid.

ps3's hardware is better than the 360's in every possible way. it takes the dev. to utilize the power but raw numbers the 360 cant compete. even with the same amount of ram in both [512mb], as others have stated, 256mb of the ps3's ram is around 6x faster than the 360's. im confident you have no idea what i said or will be saying so just go play sub hd games and dont forget the lunch your mums packed you for school tomorrow!
Shaka2K6  +   1463d ago
UMD's were awesome, but I don't we will see them for PSP2, PSPGo already scrap them.
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BattleAxe  +   1463d ago
They'll probably have UBMD Universal Bluray Mini Disk. They've learned their lesson with hardware the doesn't support physical media ie: PSP Go. Hopefully it will be backwards compatible with UMD.
RBdrift  +   1463d ago
If Sony could reach an agreement with Activision to make them a psp2 COD shooter to bundle with then it would sell literally millions day one.
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zeddy  +   1463d ago
my dream would be able to play games like elder scrolls 720p with xbox power graphics in the palm of my hand.
rareairtone  +   1463d ago
I don't fully trust this announcement but a nice amount of this is probably true.

We have to remember also that if these are the current specs, no wonder sony is having problems with keeping it cool.

Since the leading mass-consumed smartphones currently run with 512 MB of ram, there is no reason the psp can't support 1gb of ram..
PHOSADRA  +   1463d ago
ACTUALLY CONSIDER THIS....
Apple's iPod series has no problems getting
people to download and play games.

As long as Sony provides enough storage space...and the ability to re-download if you ever delete....
I don't think they'll have much of a problem....

Especially if the games are good ^.^
Just like Tap Tap Revenge.... If the game is good, people will buy it..and not care about the physical disk
Sano64  +   1463d ago
Until I hear someone say that you go into a store to buy games I have no faith in this product
vhero  +   1463d ago
Meh all we hear and read is it might have this and it might have that.. The reality is nobody knows what its gonna have yet except a few devs who are not allowed to share.
PS360fanboy  +   1462d ago
FOur times more ram than a PS3? I highly doubt that!
-Mezzo-  +   1463d ago
Tht would be awesome, i would buy that DAY 1.
TheLastGuardian  +   1463d ago
I expect the PSP2 to be powerful enough to have more multiplatform games that hit the PS3 and 360 will also be on the PSP2 as well as more Sony exclusive games hitting both the PS3 and PSP2. I think it would be so cool if the PSP2 and PS3's online functions were linked so You could have your same friends list and everything just as it is on PS3 and take it on the go.

Imagine if you were playing Killzone 3 on your PS3 and you had to go to somewhere and you could play Killzone 3 on your PSP2 with people on PS3 and you have your same rank and everything just as they were on the PS3. If the PSP2 supports 3G you could play online games wherever you went.
dosgrtr  +   1463d ago
so what will be the physical format for the psp2 then? I'm definitely hoping for a much more battery efficient physical format though
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Kamikaze135  +   1463d ago
Good question....It'll probably be an evolved form of UMDs (they'll look similar). Sort of how DVDs are what CDs evolved into overtime.
Fishy Fingers  +   1463d ago
"Games will be stored on a Memory Stick, according to one source"

So digital. It's in the article.

Edit: Disagrees for reading. Good job guys, go about making something up. Mini Blu-Rays right?
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dosgrtr  +   1463d ago
that might mean flash cards as the standard physical format
joydestroy  +   1463d ago
i disagreed because Sony themselves said it won't be digital download only like the PSPgo. i wouldn't put too much faith on rumors in an article...
Baka-akaB  +   1463d ago
What prevents them from using flash cards as physical format ? Or do you wanna believe the 3ds would be using a disc ?
Fishy Fingers  +   1463d ago
^joydestroy
Thats what I said below. But reading the article is better than just making something up.
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AntsPai  +   1463d ago
"Sony is still puzzling out what the final non-UMD storage solution will be for the PSP2"

So something other than UMD. It's in the article.
TreMillz  +   1463d ago
im guessing your referring to my comment huh fishy?
i.engadget.com/2006/10/05/tdk- unveils-16-5gb-mini-blu-ray-dis cs-at-ceatec/

to bad i can back it up, make up your excuse now...
zeddy  +   1463d ago
i hope all games come in the form of digital downloads, away with the psychical media.
Fishy Fingers  +   1463d ago
Better get to work on the PS4 sharpish then if your handheld is only slightly weaker than your premium system. Stick a video out and dual shock support, theres your one stop PS device.

Personally, I think people are just getting a bit carried away with the rumours.

"Said to be hand signed by Jesus Christ"
Incipio  +   1463d ago
Yeah totally...imagine a mini-HDMI out port. Plug that baby into your HDTV and blammo! Instant Sony home console.

In fact, that's not a bad idea. And if other people wanted to play with you...they could connect to your PSP2 via bluetooth (with either their DS3 controller or their PSP2) and you'd have splitscreen action! Hmm...we honestly aren't that far now from the point where handhelds will nearly equal consoles in power. Adding HDMI-out and bluetooth connectivity to a powerful handheld isn't too bad an idea.

Especially if Sony bundled a 6' Mini-HDMI to HDMI cable with every PSP2. HDMI cables are cheap to make now so I don't see the problem with that.

And even cooler...you could even ditch the PSP2 altogether (instead of holding it while connected to TV) and just dock it with some kind of charging HDMI-out dock and use PS3 controllers to play it!

So in a nutshell you'd have a powerful gaming system that's quality enough for TV use, and portable enough for walkin' around places, plus bluetooth pairing for multiplayer controller connectivity (using other PSP2's or DS3 controllers).

EPIC POSSIBILITIES FOR THE WIN
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Unbornkirkster19  +   1463d ago
And use LCHW (Liquid Crystal Holy Water)
King-Leonidas  +   1463d ago
LMAO
saint_john_paul_ii  +   1463d ago
well its looking like sony has learned their lesson the hard when when it comes to ram. Ram is the reason why the PSP kinda sucked when it comes to non-game apps (web browser ram issue, etc.)

Edit: Why the disagree? Ram has always been an issue for PlayStation products. its one of the reasons why the PS3 currently doesnt have things like Xross game chat/ Custom XMB music in-game for all games. this will be an amazing thing right now for the PSP2 if its real and will allow future PS consoles to thrive.

EDIT 2: Genecalypse, now thats another story. how are they going to price this and will there be a new format for games on this device. its looking like UMD will officially be dead.
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Genecalypse  +   1463d ago
Too bad its going to cost more than 300$, something they still havent learned
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MisterAV  +   1463d ago
i don't think the ram is a big issue. Web browser ok but because of netfront, if they used opera...but on ps3 problems are compatibility with all games I think. Having less ram means it only needs an hd for caching
Incipio  +   1463d ago
A traditional HDD is lightyears slower that RAM, although SSD would fare better.
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SuperM  +   1463d ago
Ram is probably the biggest bottleneck of this generation systems. A handheld device would definately benefit from alot of ram. Just look at the Epic Citadel demo running on the iphone. It looks amazing and the reason why they can run it on an iphone is because it has alot of ram. The iphone 4 has 512mb ram, in comparison to 64mb on the PSP. Thats why psp has shitty textures and iphone, if programmed right, can display some truly amazing textures.

Ram is also definately a problem on the PS3. The OS can not use more then a fixed amount of ram because the rest is reserved for games. So basically the ram limits the amount of stuff they can add to the OS. And if the games had more ram then they would have better textures.
dragonmoony  +   1463d ago
the ONLY reason the psp sucks is the lack of support, and that's because of piracy
FantasyStar  +   1463d ago
I'm a PSP Owner and I highly disagree. The lack of a 2nd Analog nub is more the reason the PSP games didn't take off. DS went through far worse piracy and they're #1.
LeShin  +   1463d ago
@Fantasystar
But that doesn't make any sense! You said yourself that the DS took off.....and it didn't even have ONE analog stick let alone two.
SuperM  +   1463d ago
@ LeShin
If DS had skipped the touchscreen and added a single analog stick it would have failed aswell. DS went for a completely different system and it worked. The PSP took a known well working system and gimped it. Not the best idea.
Kain81  +   1463d ago
i dont get it, how the touchpad will work when the buttons are on the front...you cant press a Button and in the same time navigate over the Touchpad???
SuperM  +   1463d ago
Thats exactly what you can do since the touchpad is located on the back of the device. You use your thumb to push the buttons and use the touchpad with the fingers that you will always have on the back of the device. Its not like you drop your PSP everytime you push a button is it?
bailoutbenny  +   1463d ago
damn
i knew i was doing it wrong.
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Genecalypse  +   1463d ago
No no no. There must be physical media!
Gue1  +   1463d ago
This sounds so awesome! This is the first time I get exited for a handheld since the gameboy advance.

Now if only Capcom made a port of Mega Man Legends 3 for the PsP2 everything would be even more awesome!
Optical_Matrix  +   1463d ago
So wait. No UMD? What physical format will it use then? Sony aren't stupid enough to make it DD only. They made that mistake with PSPGo. Retailers will go nuts because they much fuck all money off of hardware.
Also I want this rumor from May, about a 4-Core CPU to be true. Thats just hype.
Baka-akaB  +   1463d ago
flash cards ... UMD is worthless and takes lots of physical space
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FantasyStar  +   1463d ago
Flash cards are more expensive though. DS uses a special kind of flash card that enables enough read/write speed to make it viable.
blackpanther25  +   1463d ago
Everybody keeps talking about
the PSPgo and its failure but you seem to not realize is that the GO failed because it was not the first psp released. It was almost if not the last and everybody already had a library of UMD games and some publishers did not want to make a DD version of their game.

Cell phones have DD. DD works if done right. If they release the psp2 as DD only it would not fail because people will want to play their exsisting psp2 UMD games on it because there are no UMD psp2 games. It is a totally new system with different rules.
Stealth20k  +   1463d ago
your all over reacting

no umds doesnt mean dd only at all

according to the president of sony physical media is still a requirement

They will just do something new
Genecalypse  +   1463d ago
Ok I hate being a kill-joy but this has to be said. This handheld looks like its going to be a powerhouse, but where the hell is that battery coming from? this thing will last like 20 minutes before it dies. sheer power isnt everything, it looks like theyre putting everything into this device..which would be cool..except the fact its going to cost 599 US DOLLARS. I think Sony doesnt get it that portable systems shouldnt be like a home console expereience. They should be cheap, efficient and be easy to develop for. They keep blurring the lines between hardware, I dont think anyone wants to play 360 level games on a portable system, we have couches and tvs for that. This things too strong, will cost too much and will have low battery life. We all know it could do amazing things, but doesnt matter much when it costs 600$ and no one has one, feels like the PS3 launch all over again.

Goddamn, I really hope these specs arent true, they are just too "up there"
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SuperM  +   1463d ago
First of all. Costing 599$ seem to work just fine for the Iphone. And second of all, i sure wouldnt mind being able to play 360 like games on my portable. Its not like im gonna bring my home console when im on vacation. I promise, i will never ever whine about something having too good graphics. The better the better. Simple as that.
ClosingRacer  +   1463d ago
lol get your facts straight..
And how many people actually pay $599 for iphones?... New contract is $199 and $299... I bought the iphone 4 for $399 with early upgrade and it is only $599 for people who "need" it.. which is probably around 10%-30% of the iphone population and BTW psp 2 costing %599 and an iphone costing 599 is 2 different things.. one i can only play games on(psp2) and one where i can play games.. and call people(iphone) You get way morefor your buck buying an iphone 4 at full price then buying this thing...
rrw  +   1463d ago
But will it run Crysis (portable)?
Neurotoxin  +   1463d ago
Twice the ram of the PS3 as well...... Depending who you ask maybe even four times the ram. ;)
MrLife  +   1463d ago
I wouldn't buy it even if it's a flying machine in disguise.
I've been so loyal to Sony for the past 4544 years, and what I got in return is shit. It's been 2 years that my lovely PSP is sitting in the basement. No decent games come out for it (excluding MGS and GOW) and Sony basically abandoned it.
I bought my DS lite one year ago and I'm so damn happy with it. Lots of games, Decent support from Nintendo and I actually feel that they care.
THAT'S WHY MY NEXT CONSOLE IS GOING TO BE THE 3DS, I'm not making the same mistake again.
Baka-akaB  +   1463d ago
go cry a river in the basement then ...

There has been quite a few exclusives for psp almost every year so far , at least from the likes of Sony , Square , Capcom . You just dont like them .
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3nd3rth3  +   1463d ago
Dissidia? Birth by Sleep? Resistance? 3rd Birthday? SH: Origins? SH:Shattered Memories? LBP:PSP? Crisis Core? FFT: War of the Lions? Killzone? MDR:PSP?

(some are over two years, I know - but these are good games and not MGS or GOW)
MrLife  +   1463d ago
Just read what I said again. "It's been 2 years that my lovely PSP..."
Killzone and Silent Hill: Origins were released 3 years ago.
Resistance sucked balls with its controls, Crisis Core is pretty old as well, Dissidia is just a fighting game I don't count it, FF Tactics? Really?

@Below
But man it's not only me. It's a fact.
Sony and many other developers have abandoned the PSP and focused on the PS3 instead. I can't trust Sony anymore as much as I'd like to.
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3nd3rth3  +   1463d ago
I did read what you said, and that's why I have the parenthetical. I have to disagree with Resistance since I enjoyed it a lot. Whatever you do or do not count is not what matters, it's a game nonetheless. Feel free to complain all you want - fact of the matter is that the games are there regardless of whether you admit it.
3nd3rth3  +   1463d ago
Well, I'll agree that development for the PSP has slowed down, but I'd attribute rampant pirating to that. In fact, that's probably one of their biggest concerns with the PSP2. There's no incentive for developers to create games they won't get paid for. But I would disagree when you say Sony has abandoned the PSP when Sony Studios are still releasing exclusive games. Sony sold plenty of PSPs to keep developers happy and working, but pirates took the incentive away. To me, Sony did no not do disservice to the PSP base.
Killed4Less  +   1463d ago
If it's all download only garbage like the Go then forget it. I want to own my physical media and the reason why I skipped the Go.

So basically it will rival the PS3 in horsepower? Not really sure why the hell the story brings up the 360. Oh wait, yes I do.. Must be hard for Kotaku to walk being so full of sh*t.
NAGNEWS  +   1463d ago
i think the psp2 will do both

download and UMB
NAGNEWS  +   1462d ago
lol i mean UMD xD
poopnscoop  +   1463d ago
Yeah right.
GigaGaia  +   1463d ago
It's too bad, the 3DS will completely destroy it, like the DS destroyed the PSP. Really Nintendo has no competition.
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Baka-akaB  +   1463d ago
Nintendo is king that is all . The no competition part is silly , with a company like Sony selling close to half as many psp than there are DS , at their first try , and where other kepts failing .

They made a profit on the psp , they often had their machine outselling the ds weekly in hardware and a few software . Not a bad run at all ... even if obviously Nintendo remains the de facto king .

All i know is i'm confident i'm getting both at their release .
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Fishy Fingers  +   1463d ago
So true, because unless your first, whats the point. I tell you what, you dont get into business to make a profit, but to win the "race", for internet pride.
silvacrest  +   1463d ago
keep telling them fishy
maybe one day they will look past the fanboy bullsh*t and realize these companies are in the business of making money first and foremost
SuperStrokey1123  +   1463d ago
COme one here lets call a spade a spade here. Teh PSP was not destroyed by the competition. It sold over 60 million units. Thats HUGE! Sure teh DS sold better but lets not pretend it did poorly all of a sudden.
SyluxPT  +   1463d ago
3DS day one (:
And maybe psp 2 too
josephayal  +   1463d ago
Day 1
joex  +   1463d ago
"May Rival Xbox 360 In Horsepower"

Talked the same thing of 3DS
ohdavey  +   1463d ago
God.. it's 2010 .. we need better ways to play games on a portable device without those damn UMD's
Handhelds_FTW  +   1463d ago
Article Quote
" Sony's PSPgo is UMD-free version of the PSP, and sources tell Kotaku that the PSP2 will follow in the footsteps of that portable. Games will be stored on a Memory Stick "

Day one purchase for me over the 3DS if this turns out to be true.
ChickeyCantor  +   1463d ago
"May Rival Xbox 360"

Really now? 3 cpu cores gives some nice rawpowers though.
gamingisnotacrime  +   1463d ago
5 years later, it is more than likely
the PSP tried to rivaled the PS2 (in some games like GoW, And Peace Walker)

No Doubt the PSP 2 will bring HD gaming on the go.

Now the PSN service is where the money is at
ChickeyCantor  +   1462d ago
lots of hand held devices just go around 1 Ghz, so i doubt it will have the power of 3 cpu cores running at 3.2 Ghz.
I mean it would consume your battery so fast you could only enjoy the intro of your game.
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Kakuren  +   1463d ago
The psp 1000 has yet to fail me when it comes to quality games. I'm sure when the psp2 comes, they will continue with the quality of the product. I just hope for a wider 3rd party installation, maybe even an open source kit for some mini-like titles.
jack who  +   1463d ago
if you think a handheld can have the processing power of a 360 and run on battry i have a rock too sell you.
LevDog  +   1463d ago
I would like a camera built in it.. that way I could tether my wifi from my HTC Evo to it and vid chat.. Or access my PS3 from anywhere and play online or send pics or watch movies..
ksense  +   1463d ago
in my opinion piracy killed psp

What i would like to see is ps3 games integrate with psp2 so people are encouraged to buy them. Like have a certain part of the story playable through the psp2 just like the move option and 3d option where it is not required but that is a bonus.
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bviperz  +   1463d ago
It's not about horsepower, it's about how you use it. In other words, THE GAMES!
Alvadr  +   1462d ago
But the horsepower does help :)
gii bro  +   1463d ago
Wheres the nuclear powerstation that will be needed to run it gonna go. If I have a spare $1000 dollars lying around I might get one of these...NOT! 3DS ftw
Regal_Light  +   1463d ago
What a failure of a troll.
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