Footage of Killzone 2's War Zone Gameplay
1) textures up close are washed out 2) Crappy AI 3) Great game if they could fix the AI
1) Ummm 2) Ummm 3) It's got a long time to go before the game is sold. Everyone says the same thing, textures washed out? Please.
1)Your a blind Hater 2)Your a blind Hater 3) Great game regardless
that keep sayin the texture's washed out and its too dull and grey are the same people that enjoyed gears of war (which was a great game) anyway sure the AI will be sorted got a way to go yet before its finalised but the more you see of this game the better and better it looks this is gonna be one helluva mighty fine FPS move over halo
OK i'm joking!!! i'm impressed. The AI looks fine and the graphics make make horny and thats the damn truth. Killzone 2 has make me smile. RESPECT. /Sarcasm
I didnt realy see so much texture problem, i was to amazed by what was going on;-) but the second time i watched it i see where they can polish a little, but it´s so hard to say from a youtube clip. The only realy ai problem i saw was the Two guys who stood to close to the door when it exploaded, otherwise i think it was pretty good=) Edit: To pop_cherry, i asume youre sarcastic?
dude seriously, the 360 fanboy comments on this game is getting old. game looks great and previewers have said it too screw u and the rest of the fanboys lookin for a excuse to say this game is bad. wait till u see it in a hdtv instead of a videoplayer on ur comp and then tell me wat u see
don't be a cry baby if I hurt your feelings. my point: if no one notices or comments about the crappy AI & close up texture problem, no matter how MINOR these may be, how would the devs even give a hoot about fixing it. (*) don't even compare KZ2's AI with CRYSIS, only after the devs fix it can you do that
They said in a recent interview that theres still a lot of polishing up to do, and said that there still working on the AI.
Finallt the guy playin is better then the other ones b4
dont worry about me commenting on how it looks like resistance or how guerilla's favorite color is grey or how i have never seen more lack luster characters in my life(every character model looks freakin weird with angry eye brows) . i want to concentrate on the a.i. for you fankids a.i. means artificial intelligence. did that guy that was playing get shot at all. the helgast characters are bloody like walking zombies ("hey i can jump a wall" or "hey i can overact when i am getting shot" ) but when asked "have you used a gun before" ,he will probably reply "no.first time" there was two of the main characters team mates next to the door, main character goes up to the door plants a bomb on door to bust it open and says "get out of the way".do the 2 characters move ? no.the door blows up in there faces and nothing happens to them , not even a scar.i can sense a pattern of ps3 playability scores 6 to 7 out of 10. what a laugh killowned
PS3 owners still a must buy......Fo' sure
nothing on earth can even challenge this GAME It is a "super duper tuper FPS"
Nice Graphics, hope they fix some of the issues of textures and A.I
I like the beginning when theres´s people everywhere =) Looking realy cool!!! Cant wait for this...
Hmm dont flame me but i hope they fix this: AI- did you see how those two soldier were still standing next to door even when bomb was put on it? Bomb exploaded just inces away from them. Even Kotaku said AI is weak TEXTURES- when he is taking cover and shooting, those metal what ever they are look very bad. Now before you disagree with me for no reason, what do you think, do they have enough time to fix this?
I believe they do have time.
I agree, The game looks amazing but it could use some touch ups on some of the AI. Some of the actions the Helghast did were smart like taking cover and moving up the battle field to try and flank the player. But some others just seemed to stand there and get shot. Atleast AI can be upgraded a bunch before it gets released because developers can just add in better AI even if the game has already had it's graphics fully rendered and basic gameplay set up.
The problem with 1st person is that you do get really close to textures and although the textures really are not that fantastic (a deferred rendering shortfall apparently), the lighting and post effects make up for it in my opinion. Gears is still king of textures and being 3rd person and having texture streaming coupled with small claustrophobic environments aids the ability to tactically focus and impress with lots of wow factor texture makeup where it counts. Brilliant stuff (really) However, given the choice of staring at a high-res plank of wood while covering from a hail of bullets or feeling the immersion of an environment which is so alive and hectic that assaults the senses(and sucks you in (which it does!), I would take the latter - if it plays well of course! Of course, if it had both..... (stop being greedy Popup!)
they've tweaked the helghast into believing they are rambo: first blood, or arnold schwarzenegger in Commando even
It's hilarious watching the Xbots flail around trying to stay on message with what their latest KZ2 talking points are! Looks too grey! Right guys, no wait that was last week... One of teh textures was bad up close in one shot! Right guys, no that was a couple days ago... No I remember, teh AI sucks there was a guy just standing there! You really got to feel sorry for the poor liddle Xbots, their whole pathetic little lives revolves around trying to convince the world Halo 3 is something other than a dreadfully mediocre game with crappy last gen graphics, crappy online play with no dedicated servers and only 16 players per game - and a really, really big marketing budget. What is the most pathetic though about the latest Xbot KZ2 talking point about AI is the first two Halo games are legendary for their crappy and poorly written AI. And Halo 3 doesn't look like they managed to fix all the problems that were in the first two games.
You really are a pathetic excuse for garbage.
>_> As the great Admin. of N4G, ZeroTolerance, said "Play games, not consoles."
the bomb and the AI thing too but this game is still amazing
look at the AI it sucks and the textures wow terrible hahahahahah and the game looks hella boring where's all the rich lighting effects
you took the time out of your day to stop masturbating and write this? It's not even criticism people. I agree, the game is dark, and the AI needs to be polished but for gods sake it was a demo to be shown to dev's. In past generations of gaming, all we had was magazines with still frames, and your opinion in terms of progress i guarantee would be more positive than this. Im a ps3 owner, but i love plenty of games on the 360 and you don't see me posting stupid @ss, uneducated remarks on any 360 games. If anything, I post respect for the developers that are working so hard to complete a decent game with limited funds and time. They come on here and read negatives, you ruin the game for all of us.
let these xbots talk all they want show me 1 game that even compares to what KZ2 is - and remember its still in its alpha stage and ruins every game out there textures washed out?? u bots keep lying to urself - whatever makes u sleep at nite it seems like they have improved the demo - i use to have a issue with the smoke from explosions but they seem to be fixing that nicely the final product will own - they should give us a demo at christmas time to boost sales even more i never get bored watching this game in action - i want 2 see this on my 1080p LCD!!! with 7.1 uncompressed surround sound!
Whoever Likes the AI like that then more power to them. I like them to be aggressive and act more like smart robots instead of retards waiting to get shot at. But everything else looks pretty darn good.
The textures look fine. I don't understand how they look "Washed out." The motion blurring, textures, lighting is all great. For those of you that are concerned, this game probably won't be out for a while... so I wouldn't worry about AI and Textures, as they will probably change. Plus, since t was a demonstration, it was probably on the easiest difficulty they had, so they wouldn't keep dying.
Im not going to waste my time making you look like a fool because you've already done it your self PS3Rebel:let these xbots talk all they want show me 1 game that even compares to what KZ2 is - and remember its still in its alpha stage and ruins every game out there textures washed out?? u bots keep lying to urself - whatever makes u sleep at nite it seems like they have improved the demo - i use to have a issue with the smoke from explosions but they seem to be fixing that nicely the final product will own - they should give us a demo at christmas time to boost sales even more i never get bored watching this game in action - i want 2 see this on my 1080p LCD!!! with 7.1 uncompressed surround sound! ........ ummm ok!
"look at the AI it sucks and the textures wow terrible hahahahahah and the game looks hella boring where's all the rich lighting effects" Erm... which is it? Do you like the game or not? lol EDIT: Wow, i need to learn how to read. I see, you were replying to PS3Rebel. Sorry bout that. I do disagree though. I think the game looks great. The AI was a little stupid(Can be fixed with time), but I did like the lighting and textures.
As they've stated to go they are still only in pre-pre alpha stage. In many of their interview they do say the AI is no way near an indication of the final AI, they haven't started texture streaming, content streaming or even a large proportion of soft shadowing and some other lighting effects and gameplay effects I can't remember of the top of my head. Basically they're only, nearly half way. They've apparently been focusing on storyline and graphics at the moment. I mean with more than 8 months to go....i geuss they have a LOT of time.
the grphx are great, its obvious the devs have put alot of their effort into the grphx. the texture and the metal cover hes shooting from behind and a few other parts look rough, but this game is early and even then, i just finished bioshock and that game has some rough textures in places so it all cant be perfect. the A.I. looked weak, i dunno what difficulty they were playing and etc. but the soldier at the end of the video who looks a little bigger then normal just stands around getting lit up, no matter tho, devs have alot of time to make it great
its coming next year. everything else about the game looks cool to me. Also since its a lot further away than halo it cant really be a halo killer for sales until a little later. Now if they were released the same month now you would have a point. KZ2 might be better than halo, but you gotta convince the average gamer. Ask them what killzone is, then ask them what halo is. i still don't get why people insist on comparing it to halo. They are completely different art styles and halo is supposed to be sci-fi more than realistic. Both are games I'm excited for, but gosh people need to get a life here. Fanboyism is crazy. disliking something is fine but dont be an a-hole about it.
agree, this game shouldnt be compared to halo, except that they both are FPS. the style of this game, at least to me looks like gears of war-style in first person more then it does halo. but everyone's gonna compare because its "the two flagship FPS" and blah blah whatever else
"Ban the use of "Halo Killer" Definatly. I would ban that and people saying "A Gears of war-like cover system." Since when did Gears invent taking cover, 0.o?
naysayers and fix the AI. They have plenty of time, they better.
If Guerilla has 8 more months to go in development the have plenty of time to make the AI into the greatest AI we've ever seen in a game. Can't wait to play it once I get my PS3.
As for the AI this is nothing, all A.I is scripted and if they made it hard then nobody would stay alive long enough to tape it. And all these xbots lets not talk about ai when Halo2 had 3 foot purple midgets running around in open field instead of taking cover..It's funny how you have double standards...From what I seen It looks awsome and if it plays the way it looks on the video I'm ok with that. A.I is scripted just look at bioshock, the AI will do the same thing everytime. And from what I seen the AI is not bad it's just on easy mode but I bet if they put on the real game they would actually try to kill you and succeed
WOW it looks familiar. Oh yeah the first killzone. It had great graphics but horrible AI. Matter of Fact, the AI, Gameplay, and Story was what made the first game mediocre. I sense some Deja vu here. I'm going back to playing Alien vs Predator on my jaguar. Do the Math!
respect for representing the jaguar! though i must say i would have never paid for mine (Kasumi Ninja, anyone?)
best Killzone 2 video yet !
the game looks good but its not WOW it's freaking Awesome, because from that clip it didnt look anything that was impressive. The AI was freaking weaksauce plain and simple and for shooter its way to dark. There are much better games outthere COD4 is one. This game needs a lot of work to come close to COD4. I'm not hating on the game its just obvious it needs some work to be near the quality of some other fps.
After watching this video you can see the ai is pretty terrible. I love the cover system though and graphically the game looks amazing. It does remind me a lot of gears visually. I don't know about the textures though, since its hard to tell from such a small vid. The most important thing though is that they really do need to work on that ai. If they get the ai to gears of war type levels then this game will be a must own.
The textures in this game only come off looking a bit worse in comparison to Gears of War because this is an FPS. The camera gets a lot closer to the textures. The camera in Gears always remained further away from the textures. If it got as close as it does in the Killzone video clip you would have seen much worse textures. These levels are 2GB in size, which would obviously be impossible in Gears of War on the 360. Where do you think all that size is going? Not to mention that this game isn't finished yet. As for the "bad AI", you people must be losing your eye sight.
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all you people that are nitpicking sound like little B*TCHES. Nothink looks or plays like KILLZONE 2, just admit that. All this is REALLY starting to become redicoulous now. YOu PS3 haters down the PS3and then when it exceeds not only ours, but your expectations as well you all still B*TCH. STFU!
You really showed your maturity. lol. Nothing looks like killzone2? Okay I'll give you that, but how do you know what killzone 2 plays like. Also, from watching the video it looks like it's not going to play well at all. Some one needs to send the Developers a copy of Mario Brothers. Then they can learn something about gameplay. I think the AI might be a little better on Mario Brothers as well. @Abg, This is what I am talking about. The video was placed on this site to be criticized. That is what everyone is doing. Stop being foolish and calling names. You people never say anything when someone judges a game at E3. All you fanboys are the same, you only like what people have to say when it is good and you dimiss all the bad things.Grow up man.
I read through all these negative comments and just laugh. All the haters have their 360's crammed extreamly far up their asses. This game rocks. With a little time and polish, this will be the game to beat for a long while. A new bar will be set.
this is exactly what I'm talking bout people, this is PRIME example! You B*TCH aobut the AI in a pre alpha game, man??? Come on man grow up, whne the AI sees you they shoot at you don't they?? Mario brothers??? Man sound stupid........I have no comment for that one, lol
the soudn is even amazing in this little video on my pc, i cant wait to get it hooked up to a 7.1 system
Don't you guys get tired of hating/ harping on the same 'ole sh1t day in & out!? If you don't like a particular game, don't be a d1ck about it just don't comment. No game be it Kill2one or Halo3 etc... is going too be perfect, so just enjoy them for what they are ENTERTAINMENT. ...End Rant...
^What Le6ion said^
Theres something different about this game which makes it stand out and look very realistic but fantasy at the same time! Yeah the game needs work but there is no denying that it's coming along nicely and should be a pretty interesting game! These guys are not trying to make a Halo killer but what they are trying to do is make a good game that everyone will enjoy and that lives up to what they envisioned it would be! I seriously think that this game is going to come out and really do well but just wish 360 and PS3 fanboys would just appreciate this title for what it is and quit worrying about what console it's on!
can you stop complaining about the AI. all AI is mediocre at best. if you want a challenge go online. single player is for people that really arent that good. this games looks amazing though. imo it looks better than any 360 game out or coming out and its still in its beta phases.
Killzone 2 obviously looks spectacular you only have to look at the video footage and the previews from every single gaming site out there, all you xbox 360 losers that are trying to crush this game eather stfu and stop being jelous or buy a PS3, seriously i can't wait to get ahold of a copy of this like many people... I meen just look how many comments already this game is going to be big and there's nothing the sad little xbots can do about grow up kiddys... Normally I don't get affected this much saying killzone 2 looks bad after all the crap people have had to endure for years that Sony can't hit target renders, well now they are so get used to it, people who say this looks bad are plain dumb or xbox 360 fanatics...
I hope the developers ignore all the praise for this game and use the nagative comments when progressing with development instead. Afterall, with such unrealistically harsh and negative comments taken on board, the devs will go on to exceed everyones expectations and counter such 'problems' by the time its released. Good news and well done to all then.
and by the progress they've made already, it seems like that was a response to the mediocre reception of KZ1 coupled with the monumental expectations from E3 '05. I agree, seems that pressure is the best thing for GG, and it's to see a developer that can deliver under fire. A.I., textures, fire/smoke effects = SOLID GOLD. I think a year is plenty of time to tweak that stuff, especially with what they've already got. I always forget the multiplayer though. I hope KZ2s multiplayer is similar to that of Haze, where both factions have unique abilities and equipment.
but it's still great stuff nonetheless. I largely agree with the A.I. gripes though. In all honesty, as much as I'm loving what I've seen from KZ so far, it would be a shame for a game with such depth and the high level of detail to not have smart A.I. Stupid soldiers just doesn't add up with the hi-poly models, cover system and crisp animations. Then again, there's still plenty of time left, and I'm still expecting a Fall '08 release, so we should see some big changes from now to then. I also doubt this will make an appearance at TGS, so that's less time the devs have to spend cleaning things up for a demo specifically. Anyway, my dream is that this game has A.I. like that of F.E.A.R. I own the PC version, so I don't know if the console edition is any better or worse, but if anyone played what I played they know what I mean. KZ2 could be one of the best shooters for YEARS to come if they can nail the A.I. like F.E.A.R. did. In my eyes 90% of everything else is in place, but that is one of my few concerns.
For a game that has been in development for over 3 years it still needs alot of work.
the same with most games though. They concentrate on most important things, and graphics. Then they work on the AI and touching up later. Anyways they said in a recent interview that the game still needs a lot of polishing up and are still working on the AI. I think its looking real impressive already, graphics/effects wise.
Look at this face. It's me being mesmerized by the video.
The ai looked like even the most advanced ai in games in easy level, so i dont see the big complain there. The character got wounded quite a lot of times if you notice the red flashes so i guess they were shooting at him, unless you meant at the beginning of the level where there were a lot of your allies as well that could be shot. Allies ai and friendly fire should be adjusted a bit for the bomb script. Textures need a bit of polishing but already look better than average. Gameplay looks fun though really inmersive like bioshock cant wait to try this out. Finally since no one wants to say i will, did you notice the amount of people at the beginning of the level, frame rate problems at lots of action.....nope.
* Killzone action: Lack of AI with charators its just systematic coriographed turn taking robotic behavior like in theme park animatronics or robots hitting the main play every once in awhile(Duck Hunt like-AI)(AI do not match human actions what-so-ever they're there for show). * graphics looks good and like shait at the same time has a pasted painted look with poor bump mapping and shadowing with lack luster textures. Up clise detail is nothing more than multi colored blothces of pixelated nonsense we havn't seen sence Atari or NES(no excuse for corridor environment FPS's) I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is OK and games like COD4 and Turok will be the Holly grail of FPS although games like Timshift and Halo 3 will also add to FPS's that most others can't.
and there is no way, my fellow 360 dudes, that we can hate on this one...you know how we love our shooters...looks stellar...
agreed, lighting is just really good
That's all i'm talking about giving credit where it's due, you don't see me in the bioshock section saying it sucks when it clearly doesn't... I meen this is a seriously stunning looking game, you can say the ai needs work which i agree maybe it does and this is now month's old version of the game, but to say that it looks bad when the lighting and atmosphere obviously looks incredible is pure stupid...
the AI is STELLAR!
Looking fantastic except for some of the ways Helghast react to machine gun fire, if it stays this way, some guy is going to post a youtube video called 'Helghast - Dance of Death' edit: I guess I don't have any experience for that to look realistic, well I can easily live with it