Most gamers have heard of Games for Windows Live is trying to expand across the PC Gamers Market but will the popularity of Steam destroy Windows chances of even being noticed?
All da way
Valve with it's innovative games along side it's Online store and gaming community Steam, are way too much for Microsoft. The Microsoft store is just M$ doing what it does best, playing follow the leader. I don't see M$ offering anything innovative to PC gamers. M$ is just looking for quick cash. Steam has 30 million active users and is approaching 3 million daily peak users and have been LOYAL and in communication with it's gamers from day 1. M$ has no loyalty or Honor to it's gamers, just look at the Xbox 360 Exclusive list and remember how M$ dumped the PC for it's 360. M$ needs to just go away or go make good with 360 owners as PC gamers DON'T NEED M$.
Even the exclusives on Xbox 360 are not so strong now, as the competitor which is the PS3 (as you can see in the catalog). MS focus to spend $500 Millions on marketing on Kinect than making good games on Xbox 360 and supporting PC Gaming.
Do you seriously stop and click shift + 4 every time you want to write MS? It's so depressing, man, to actually realize that you did that when you were writing your comment.
shift clicking 4 is still a lot shorter than typing out Microsoft. Some people can do it in the blink of an eye. Just because you can't there's no need to cry about it. back on topic. There's nothing wrong with competition. I seriously doubt they come even remotely close to offering what steam does. But it should be entertaining to see them try.
on azerty keyboards, it's part of the lowercases
I said MS, not Microsoft. Instead of just typing MS, the guy writes M$ because he wants to, what, make a point about how MS is a corporation that seeks to make a profit in a cutthroat industry? And Sony runs on happy dreams and marshmallow smores? And Nintendo runs on donations from doing pro bono plumbing? Why is MS the one that gets marked with the dollar sign? Is that supposed to be clever?
I just made a Steam account yesterday. I'm loving it very much. I hope it comes to PS3 soon.
Steam is the Best and always will be the Best!!!
Microsoft buys Steam. It has no chance in hell of getting large share of PC market for another 20 years.
Steam is a couple days away from hitting the 3 million concurrent users online mark. It came dangerously close today, peaking at 2,989,852. And just last week Valve celebrated their 30 millionth Steam user accounts. Microsoft, do you really expect to compete with that?
could use some competition I don't see the fuss about Windows entering the market. Microsoft needs to do what they did with the Zune Software and make it run smooth even on slower computers with alot of community options and visually appealing interface.
Steam's already got plenty of competition. D2D and Impulse have been around for years. But Steam is the biggest, and by far the best digital retailer out there.
Much competition D2D and Impulse do not offer what Steam does, I'm hoping Microsoft at least tries to be a true Steam competitor. Steam isn't just about buying and downloading games its also about the community.
Usually I'd agree that a single competitor would need competition to drive prices down and improve service for consumers, but in the case of Steam their prices and service are already incredible.
I think the way MS is trying to gain popularism with 3rd Party Developers to add Games for Windows Live, to include that in the newest games and leave Steam, like Dead Rising 2. I don't know if Lost Planet 2 also have this support, or Capcom have an agreement to include Windows Live.
Yes, but gamers grudgingly use Games For Windows Live. I've never met a single PC gamer that likes the service. More and more devs are starting to drop Live in favor of Steamworks. Fallout: New Vegas for example. Then in under two weeks, we've got COD: Black Ops with full Steam support. Games For Windows Live will never amount to much, trust me. If they have 8% of the PC digital download market in 2 years, I'll be amazed.
relic have ditched GFWL woot!!!!
They know where PC gamers stand, and they know we still feel animosity towards them for when they tried to charge PC gamers for GFWL. They wanted to do what they did with XBL, charge gamers for services that should be free because there is no real cost to offset.
GFWL is awful. The games that use it crash often. I just don't like it. Almost nobody likes it.
My only problem with DD games is that you can't choose which HDD to install them on. I had steam install to c but I use that for apps and windows and use d and e for gaming. I found out that you had to install steam on the HDD you want the game to be dl and installed on. Other than that steam is very nice.
That also annoyed me, because when I split up my drive I made only my c drive 150gb which is my windows drive, and 500gb for d drive which is games drive, now I have around 30 steam games that all go to c drive instead of my games drive. I just feel sorry to the person who has a very small windows drive, they would have to do a clean install.
too strong for windows. wtf pc was reconised way b4 steam valve come in. and because steam hit the pc market they only got them selvs alot of money threw that system.
lol try again
Hey i am all for competition baby. Steam in my books is fantastic
If anyone can compete it will be Microsoft. They could always push exclusives that steam would have trouble attaining. I'd like to see these two battle it out. Lower prices and better services FTW!
Exclusive DLC coming to Windows Live. Content locked out from stream but is modded back in by the community. I bet this would be the case.
Microsofts fighting wars on all fronts now
*Losing wars on all fronts. The only front where Microsoft is still the king is in OS sales.
I stand corrected
as a reseller I can assure you that they are steadily losing bits of the pie (not even tiny anymore) to Apple
No sh!t lol Games for windows live was a fail from the start. I have one game that i never play that is under games for windows that is blackhawk tango down whatever its called. Only reason i have that is because it was free.
I only have 2 one being bioshock 2 and the other being dead rising 2. The latter though I had to get a crack to get it to play GFWL kept telling me I was not connected to the internet even though I was, because GFWL help and support could not get it to work (neither could any help guides on the internet) so eventually I just got the crack and then it worked first time.
Steam spoiled me. It's flawless, no reason to be using another service, which most likely can't compete anyway.
MS will run away from the market again
Like with the iPod and Zune?
Ea/Blizzard got to launch their Diablo game on Steam as well .It will sell 30% more if they do so lol. Automatic updates is one of the things I love about Steam.
be interesting on what type of Steam support the PS3 will have, w/e it is im sure Steam will leave XBL in the dust and M$ will have their faces red again soon.
Damn dude. Why bring the PS3 in this thread? This is a PC thread. Keep your subhd console in the console section LOL :p Saying that. MS really screweed the dog with Wndows Live for gaming. comptition is good but MS is going to have to pull off some wicked stuff to compete with Steam
Cus the ps3 is getting steam support and the spreading of steam wil greatly hurt Live??? Don't have to hate lol. Has everything to do with the article and is not just a pc thread. Lol @ sub HD console luv ignorant ppl
I love Steam and Valve. Every company should learn from them.
@thehitman Valve already announced the PS3 specifics. It's Steamworks, not Steam. When you play Portal 2 on the PS3, you'll likely have to create and login to a Steam account (if you don't already have one). What you'll get will be auto updates from Steam servers (Valve did this to avoid having to send PS3 Portal 2 patches to Sony for QA), Steam Cloud, a service that uploads game save files to a server so you can pick up your game from where you left off on a different system. I think they said something about Steam Community integration too, which would likely mean Steam Achievements and stat tracking. What you will NOT be able to do is buy games through Steam on the PS3.
The community and features is what I am interested about buying pc games on your ps3 wouldn't make much sense would it? Already have psn for buying games.
Windows for Live is SHIT. Steam is the shit.
another delete :D
GFWL is the damsel in distress tied to the train tracks, and Steam is the freight train.
Except there is no hero coming to rescue said damsel. More than likely he'd just watch.
I purchase my first PC game in years and I'm forced to do a mandatory Steam install which I don't want. As for supporting anything Valve...since their snubbing of the PS3 I refuse to support them in any shape or form. I know Gabe has announced support for the PS3 but he's yet to make good on his word (no, a PS3 version of Portal 2 is of no interest to me as I thought the first one was nothing more than a tech demo).
May I ask why you don't want the one time install of steam? Is it because of the cheaper games or big sales? the access to community? the updates which are easy to get or that you can switch off entirely? or if you lose your game or damage it they will still have your copy?
I'd quit gaming before I'd pay Microcrap for anything. Steam all the way.
"Steam is too strong for Games for Windows Live" Oh Yeah!
I love how they don't charge for online gaming on Windows but still gouge us 360 owners for a basic function.
Lol they tried, but unlike xbox owners PC people retaliated and refused to use their service, they then made it free. Just think if the xbox people had done that in the beginning then they could have also had free online gaming.
Yeah if they tried to charge it would have died the moment it launched instead of dying a slow death. PC gamers are not stupid to pay when they have free online gaming for years. If only console players were like that.
Thank goodness Steam was in place to keep Microsoft from trying to make their model the standard and try to get a strangle hold on the market they way they did with Windows and Office. Steam makes PC gaming cheap and awesome.
I love how microsoft knew this would happen. They knew that digital download would be the future and it basically is i mean someone cauld buy an xbox 360 slim 250 Gig bundle get xbox live and they would never have to go out and buy games for their xbox 360 games for windows has almosta ll the hits the xbox live arcade library is getting bigger and bigger not to mention the fun indie games so yeah when BR is dead digital download will be the future On topic: Steam FTW valve hit it out the park with that one GFWL is a loser in that race heck all of the races it's been it has been the last place loser
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