A 6-year-old plays Grand Theft Auto IV: "I just shot somebody and killed somebody without the cops going after me... I really like this game"
Somehow, I'm guessing he ain't the only one...
its funny because the same parents that allow their kids to play violent games, are gonna criticise the exact same games for being violent, these parents wouldn't let their kids watch porn, so why would they let them play a game Thats not suitable for that age. The problem isn't with game its with the parenting.
Some lady delivered Pizza at my work yesterday. She said something about how bad kids are, then went on to commenting on how she knows it's wrond but she lets her teens smoke weed cause it chills them out. Some people really piss me off with logic like that.
@Necrum why do you think smoking weed makes you a bad person? I used to play GTA 3 when it came out and I was 8 years old than. I didn't know that I had to do missions but i sure did ran over a lot of people.
My nephew does the exact same thing only with Vice City (which he instead calls 'Trees Man', since Tommy Verceti has trees on his shirt). He's been playing Vice City with his tiny hands since he was 4, he also never took interest in the violence, just the free roam driving. I myself have also played GTA from a young age, GTA1 came out when I was 9, and I've played every one since. I'm 22 now and have only been violent maybe twice in my life.. but never unprovoked
@Guntrol Smoking weed doesnt make you a bad person, being a bad person makes you a bad person. That said you shouldnt do any drugs until your brain is fully developed or else you might get complications. And its the parents responsibility to make shure you dont, so id have to agree with NecrumSlavery. OT: I played a lot more violent video games when i vas 6-12 then i do nowdays, it simply doesnt amuse me like it did back then. Nobody ever told me that it wasnt real, my parents probably had no idea what i was playing. That said i have what i can remember never been in a real fight in my entire life, and had no problem to differ between reality and fiction. I believe its not the violence in videogames thats harmful for kids, but the amount of time they spend with them, especially if its a twitchy shooter like cs that demand full concentration.
"its funny because the same parents that allow their kids to play violent games, are gonna criticise the exact same games for being violent," how do you know? It's almost as if you just pulled some "evidence" out of your ass to make an argument.
There's nothing wrong with a 6-year old playing this. What's wrong is that we teach kids that specific things are wrong instead of the context of those things. For instance, I tell my 5-year old that "sh*t" is not a bad word, but that we don't use it because some people are offended by it. Instead of teaching him that "sh*t" is a bad word, we teach him that it's wrong to be disrespectful. That way, instead of cursing at his teachers using ANY words, he holds his tongue. The only thing we really filter in front of him is sex and nudity because that's a much more difficult concept for children.
I think you just contradicted yourself there. You said that you don't teach your kids that certain things are right and certain things are wrong, yet you teach them it's wrong to be disrespectful? My opinion is that if you don't teach your kids, they're not gonna learn it, no matter how awesome of a job you think you're doing. I think violence is a pretty touchy subject for children as well. How often have you had to tell a young child (your child or a relative) that we don't hit each other when they bash their brother or sister in the face.
I didn't contradict myself, I just didn't make myself clear. I didn't mean that I don't teach them that ANYTHING is wrong. I meant that I don't teach them that "sh*t" is wrong but "poop" is not. It's the context in which words are used that make them "wrong". For instance, if my son told his teacher to "Shut the f*ck up," he would get in as much trouble as if he said, "Shut up." Why? Because the words he uses don't matter--it's that he was disrespectful that makes it wrong. At the same time, I tell him not to say those "bad" words because some people are offended by them. For instance, if my son goes to school and says, "Sh*t!" when he breaks his pencil, he'll get in trouble. So, I don't tell him not to say it because it's wrong. I tell him not to say it because he'll get in trouble. Is that more clear? As for the question about violence: I've never sheltered my kids from violence. My oldest never hits. Ever. It's just not in his nature. My youngest? Hits all the time. He's a lot rougher and tougher than my oldest. Is this caused by what he watches? Maybe. But the truth is that both kids have been exposed to the same things for their life. Is the youngest more inclined to act out violently than the oldest, and so the youngest is more influenced by violent television? Perhaps. But the truth is that he can throw/catch a ball...he can feed himself...he can run and jump...he can sit quietly...he can control his arms and legs. Further more, my youngest's show of choice is Care Bears... I have seen people with kids that aren't even allowed to watch Pixar films--families that have "Christian" cable access...not regular cable access... And their kids are some of the worst out there. Bottom line is that the jury is out when it comes to the influence of media-based violence on people. I've played all of the worst games imaginable (Doom, Duke Nukem, Heretic, all GTAs, etc.), and I'm not violent or a Satan worshiper. So, my technique for raising my kids is to teach them to be kind, courteous, giving, selfless and caring. It's also my goal to teach them the difference between fantasy and reality. So far, I'm doing well. My oldest son started kindergarten this year, and he has no behavior issues. Teenagers are a different story, however.
Im surprised FOX news didnt pick this up already. EDIT Funny how this article is tagged as a Xbox article.
There are kids that are 15 who are still too immature to play this. My son is 6 and he could handle it, if I let him. He is just that much farther along. He knows the difference between make believe and reality. But he loves all of his games. Some are violent, some are not. But I know when something is too much for him. That is why I am the parent.
Why are you guys complaning so much? 5 year olds play Halo Reach, and that game is rated ''M''.
Whats the big deal its ONLY a game, i remember watchin NightBreed http://www.youtube.com/watc... with my Dad when i was 6, i turned out "alright"
I love the it`s ONLY entertainment line. Yes, media has ZERO effect on society. When you look around you must not be seeing what I`m seeing. McDonalds will probably be the first to say "It`s only food".
I remember my dad making me play Mortal Kombat on Genesis. I was like, no I'll watch you, and he said I needed to play this. This was prior to knowing the Blood Code or any Fininshing Moves. So I guess it wasn't to bad. My brother came over and I remember he did scorpions move and torched the guy, I though that was to scariest and most insane thing in any game, back then. He wouldn't give it to me, but I learned them all eventually. How times have changed.
and it's the people's choice to eat that food, just like it's the parents choice to buy kids M rated games. sure, I do believe that developers, publishers, and games shops have some responsibility in making sure a kid doesn't play a M rated game but that's why there is a rating system. In the end, it is the parents responisbility to check the rating before buying and determine if thier kid is Mature enough to play the game.
Thats still a creepy film :p .
Still not suitable for their age...
I played Playboy: Mansion when I was 8. My dad seems "okay" with it.
please dont compare shooting people with porno
thats the thing...its a movie =| in this situation a movie IS different to a game. Movies, your actions don't have consequences (you don't even have actions...) in a game they do =| trust me, I have two nephews, and when ever I played any Open World game they'd say "kill that, kill him, attack that" when I asked them why? "oh because thats what dad does on GTAIV he kills everything and the cops go after him its really cool" =| YOU can turn out alright, but not every kid will
But whats to say that the kids who didnt turn out "alright" would have if they didnt play the games?
i dunno man,N4G seems to think you didnt turn out that great lol
That's sort of how I feel, I didn't really think anything of him playing the game beside me. If his parents are okay with it then that's choice, still the kids only 6....
I've never been censored much, I must've been about 9 or 10 when I played the first Grand Theft Auto. So far I haven't shot anybody or stole a car...
I played Halo at the age of about 9. I played Unreal Tournament at around 7. I Played Sonic and Tetris at about 2 or 3. The way my parents always handled violent games with me when I was young was always quite negative. When I played Unreal, my dad watched over my shoulder and suggested that I stop when he saw some of the gore. He played through Halo first before he'd let me play it. After that I started getting free reign over what games I played. I've managed so far without killing anyone. In fact, now I'm studying Games Design and a highly renowned University. If the parent has played the game and knows what their child is getting into, then I say it's fine. If they think that through observation the child is able to tell reality from the game world. Sure. If the child starts to steal police cars in the real world, someone's done something wrong.
out of curiosity what university?
so 18 and studying game design? .. noice!
But the only game with blood that I played as a kid was Killer Instint and that wasn't even that bloody compared to what used to be out then. I was more into mario and all that shiznit. Don't know about anyone else, but seeing alot of blood ont he screen used to scare the shit outta me. I'm pretty much ok now though and, like you, am currently studying Games Design at university as well.
This is disgusting. If you're going to let your child play GTA then why not let him drink, smoke and watch pornography? Some parents shouldn't have kids.
playing a game is comparable to drinking, smoking and porn? Your the one who should be careful with kids mate, jesus. Edit: @ Vegeta Was that targeted at me? I am in no way comparing drinking and smoking to porn. Nothing really wrong with porn, except for the degrading to whom it is involved. But in no way is drinking and smoking comparable to porn.
Well said. I'm sick of hearing these pathetic arguments. People really need to learn how to raise their kids. I grew up playing games like Driver, Die Hard, Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, and the likes. I even played some Duke Nukem on the original PS. I've never in my life been monitored on what video games I play and I'm a student in NY going to John Jay College of Criminal Justice. I never got out of control with my parents. Its the fact that some parents, don't know how to discipline their children and keep them in line. So many times I see a parent and the kid and it seems like the kid is the parent. While this is a direct stereotype here but, do you ever notice what races are the children who turn out to be violent from playing video games or watching violent movies? Sorry but its the whites/Anglo and that holds truth to it. P.S Disagree all you want but everyone I know that plays these video games turned out fine.
drinking and smoking is comparable to porn? YOU'RE the one who should I don't know what you should do as this sentence is just filler anyways I could say something wacky like waffles and it wouldn't really matter but after this rant I think I will have to end it with, jesus.
Do you watch porn a lot, lil' kid?
@Sitris, Playing this type of game is very similar to other adult activities. Would you let your six year old play a game that features drug use, extreme violence and other adult themes? Of course not. And if you did you should have your children taken away from you. And don't call me "mate." I'm not your "mate" or your friend. I'm just here to tell the truth.
I live in Aus and i have worked in Maccas drive thru, i called everyone my mate haha and i was watching far worse movies at 6 than the contents of GTA4 and i turned out just fine. But comparing the contents of a virtual world to the real world activities of smoking and drinking is not even closely comparable. Note: sorry if calling you mate was offensive to you, blame my society haha Edit: Also, who are you to tell parents how to bring there kids up, it is there decision on how to do it. Sure not wathcing that stuff is preferable, but its not your right to say such things, i don't have kids, but going by what your saying i should stop my step sisters from watching TV, as the news is showing constant 'celebrity scandles' showing murderers and drug dealers.
lol degrading, now sex is degrading hahahahaha
interspecies erotica? haha
ok having a 6 yr old play GTAIV isn't cool...but damn dude it isn't THAT BAD
External stimuli such as porn and violence cant really be compared to internal stimuli(drugs).
How much rage does MultiConsoleGamer have. Should stay away from adult games they don't have a positive affect on you lol. A guy calls you mate on the internet and you kick off. And your not telling the truth your using your small closed mind to project your feelings on to other people. This all comes down to bad parenting. It's just easier to blame everything else than take responsibility yourself.
I don't wanna watch it. It would be too painfull
And he's playing it on the 360.
That may well be the whole problem
He didn't like the PS.. ;)
my mom bought me the live action GUYVER film when i was young thinking it was similar to POWER RANGERS, boy do i love my mom for introducing me to anime.
i think the problem is when u let impressionable people play games like kids or poor people.
I think it all matters on how kids are raised, taught, and punished. I've played violent games since I was very young. But, I understood the difference. My parents made sure of that. And, I'm not violent at all, lol. Some parents won't whoop there kids, take things away, punish em.. They also give their kids everything, let em act out, and do as they please.. Parents needa straighten their kids out..
I played violent video games when I was a kid and I don't go around shooting people people smacked off my tits on drugs, but then I am serving life for drug related homicide.
When I have kids, I will let them play whatever they want. BUT I will make sure to tell them what a game means and that it is in no way okey to do things that you can do in certain games in the real world when you are playing with friends etc. With good parenting there is no need to worry about these things. I think that kids benefit a lot from being able to choose for themselves from the beginning instead of having their parents shove down their opinion and their interests. My parents did that and when you realize that as an adult it isn't very good for the relation with your parents. Each kid has to choose their own way, parents should only tell them about the consequences of their choices.
Letting a kid play GTA when they are 6 are just VERY irresponsible of their parents. Should be no discussion there.
Back then on snes and nes all the games didnt have super realistic graphics. Todays games do and gta 4 is crazy realistic when killing dudes. pop a cap in the head of a guy driving a car and his head hits the car horn and buzzes. I was taught good by my parents and such so even if I was growing up this gen on realistic violent games I would know the difference. The kids who talk nice on xbl and don't bad mouth people are the good kids who get it. The other kids talking crap and swearing and being racists dont. I mean when I was a kid I wouldnt dare have the audacity to talk like some of these people on live. they the ones messing up society and always cheating and hacking in games. These are the kids who haven't gotten discipline. Kids growing up with that wall street movie mentality where the only thing that matters is being top dog and lieing, cheating, stealing, and doing bad things to win. No freaking honor at all.
N4OGs well said
I'll keep them away from games like GTA,until I feel their mature enough.may be just below 18,but if they defy me and do whatever.I'll educate them with a beatdown
Jesus christ. Is it possible? How on earth could parents allow this? Is this really what`s going on in people`s homes? I`m shocked!
my very first video game was the first Mortal Kombat (i was 4)... the only reason kids go crazy these days is because of bad parenting.
Wauw what a good NEWS article!
Parents these days.. *shakes head and goes back to reading Master of the Game*
the ones who go shooting people after playing video games are the ones with ADHD and ADD. thats y they need ritalin
I don't think ADHD and ADD is going to cause kids to go on a shooting spree. Half the time ADHD and ADD is just an excuse for bad parentings, throw some drugs at your kids to calm them down because you messed up.
and who is the idiot that put a 18+ game into the hands of a 6 years old ?? and they complain afterwards ...
Who's complaining? Do you honestly think that after playing GTA a 6 year old is going to go off on a homicidal rampage when they become an adult? It's just a game, if the child can't realize that at 6 he already has some serious issues to deal with and GTA should be the least of his parents worries.
lol who's complaining ??? didn't you see the countless useless stupid articles about violence in video games ? the "normal" people are complaining .. and before you answer me , just take your time and process the sarcasm i put into my previous sentence.
when I said "who's complaining," I meant me, I'm well aware of all the stupid video game violence stories. I had no problem with him playing the game, he's a smart kid. I'm sure he understands the difference between a video game and real life.
Hahaha. Americans. Highest age rating in the world for media. Lowest iq and highest crime. I love this world.
this kinda reminds me of when i was a 12 and mortal kombat was the too violent for children game. Its up to the parents to figure out if your kids mature enough to understand its just a game.
Since i was 6 me my brother and friends have been killing people in games. i start with rambo in sega master system, double dragon, contra, street of rage, art of fighting, nam 1942, metal gear, bionic commando, ninja gaiden, shinobi, strider,mortal kombat, street fighter and so on and i'm a peaceful person and maybe more than my friends that were playing basketball that have so many histories of fights witch i jus weren't there because i was maybe playing video games. Now i have a kid i read a lot about this things because my kid is 6 years old and he likes it too but you can not confuse porn with violence in video games. I let him play GTA IV but i will never let him porn because the loose of the innocence is in there. my kid has kill a lot of cops but in real life he knows what a cop is. i think is ok to play violence games at young age but GTA is bordering the lines of what is possible for a kid at this age. And be good parent is to be there to explain to your kids when he needs it!