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AMD Radeon HD 6870 vs 5870

AMD has recently released the first two graphics cards in its new 6800 series lineup, the Radeon HD 6850 and the Radeon HD 6870. Now most people would assume that these new cards would be faster than their 5800 series counterparts, however, they would be wrong. Confused ? We are too…

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Shackdaddy8362588d ago

I dont get why hey decided to change the names. It just seems like a random move to me....

captain-obvious2588d ago

I need help guys
I got like a 100$
and I need a great / powerful / fast graphics card that can run starcraft2 on ultra with 60 fps
and I don’t know which one to get
can you guys help me with this

ChickeyCantor2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

safe up another 100 and get a GTX-460
It should serve you well.

STONEY42588d ago

Mmm it really depends on the resolution, but I'm running a GTX 460 right now, and I get 60fps average even in 2v2 games. CPU can be a factor too due to bottlenecks, but any recent quad core should be find (Intel i5s or somewhat older Q series, AMD Phenom IIs or Athlon II X3)

toaster2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Go to the forums and we'll help you there, it's more than just a 5 bubble conversation. 3 in my case.. :3

STONEY42588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Oh and just to add to what I said (edit button is already gone), I play at 1920x1200, and average 60-65fps in both 1v1 and 2v2. The lowest it ever dips in 1v1 is around 45fps in 200/200 battles, and in only the most massive 2v2 fights (on creep, overlords filling screen, 200/200 armies on all teams), does it ever dip to 35fps.

So yes, a 1GB GTX 460 will fulfill all your needs. Just save up $100 more. With an older dual-core CPU, the fps will be averaging around 40fps, dipping under 30 during massive battles, but that's still very good. From my experience, 200/200 army battles don't even happen too often enough for it to be an issue.

Edit: And yeah, listen to toaster, the forums here are great if you need help, especially for PC related things with people like him and Nihilism around, who can definitely help you with this. I'm just a lurker here though and never actually post anything on them :P

CombineElite2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

This is your best option for gaming performance and a little future proofing. these cards will easily run Starcraft 2 MAXED OUT at 1920 x 1080 plus they will give you added performance in more graphically intense games.

AMD HD 5770 $139 buy another one later on for Crossfire and have HD 5870 performance.
http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

Nvidia GTS 450 $129 not as powerful as the HD 5770 but very good performance for entry level cards. get another later on and double your performance.
http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

AMD HD 6850 $179 this card is brand new and allows you to max out the eye candy on ALL games. Yes a little further out your budget but trust me worth every penny because gaming performance will improve even more with driver updates plus this card allows for use of DX11 tessellation while using medium settings plus AA and AF. Add another one down the road and your a gaming God.
http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

Here are some benchmarks that show results so you can see for yourself. The GTS 450 is not on the list because it performs under the HD 5770
http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

don't know what CPU you have but a $129 Athlon II X 4 or a $99 AMD Phenom II X2 will provide the mid range performance you.

Hope this helps

captain-obvious2588d ago

thanks guys i'll head on to the fourms and we'll talk in there

thanks agian you guys rock

Fred-G-Sanford2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

This name change by AMD is one of the most retarded things I have seen in a long while.

Seriously, WTF sense does it make to confuse potential buyers like this?

The sad part is, the jackass that made this decision no doubt earns about 50 times more than what I make in a year. :/

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ProjectVulcan2588d ago

It is slower, but not a lot slower. The point being it retails in the uk for 100 pounds- ONE HUNDRED less than 5870 was retailing at last week, for 5-10 percent less performance. That means it has an excellent price/performance ratio, now alongside the Nvidia GTX470 for the 180-200 pound market.

Although most people would be in the market for one of these, enthusiasts look to uber high end stuff, which we are waiting with bated breath for their release next month. After seeing the performance of these being much smaller chips than 5870 was, I cant wait to see the performance of the 69x0 series which are larger!

fossilfern2588d ago

I know i hate the way AMD/ATI have changed the numbering it was fine the way it was. Im looking forward to the 69x0 might pick up a 6950 if its at the right price point

ProjectVulcan2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

6870's die size is a mere 255mm squared, versus 5870 which was 334mm. Although its clock speed is 6 percent higher, it is 31 percent smaller for a loss of about 5-10 percent performance against 5870. Impressive.

Which means that if the rumours are true about 6970 being approx 380mm squared with the new architecture (15 percent bigger than 5870), it should be a good 30 percent faster at the same clocks, conservatively.

For most games that would make a 6970 faster than a GTX480 comfortably.

BattleAxe2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

I don't know too much about how many pounds these graphics cards are, but what I do know is that I weigh 200 pounds.

Prcko2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

ONLIVE gonna send gaphic cards into history!!!

Letros2588d ago

Why, are Onlive PC's running those games powered by TEH CELL?

callahan092588d ago

Yeah, OnLive itself has to use graphics cards, you know. For every OnLive user that doesn't have their own GPU, OnLive has to have one. So actually it won't have any real-world change on the number of GPUs being made and sold.

KratosGirI2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Have fun streaming your games instead of actually rendering and playing them.

JsonHenry2588d ago

great value for the asking cost of entry!!!

MGRogue20172588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

AMD Radeon HD 5870 wins.

:S

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