Microsoft’s development legend says he yearns to make a 5m+ seller and join the ‘triple-A club’
That's true, try making a game for a console that takes advantage of Bluray.
Target ur audience....... make a shooter.
... he should just make a game that has challenging interesting stories, characters, gameplay etc etc, instead of wasting precious development time and talent on stuff like 'a dog' and 'designing your Fable livingroom' and that kinda crap. We just want play interesting games. That's all. A game without any challenge or fun gameplay just isn't interesting. I love the whole setting and idea behind Fable. I love the artstyle/design in Fable. It's the story and gameplay that seems kinda lacking. Sadly.
for once he's honest
Peter's being modest. He made Black and White. Which is the only reason I tolerate some of his idiocyncracies and defend the guy at times.
Peter did overhype Fable 2 and it wasnt that great but I noticed that he havent overhyped Fable 3 and the game looks ever better than the 1st and 2nd.
Go back and look at Fable 1. Ok done that? Now make good on every promise made all those years ago (salt and pepper shakers of doom, a truly open world like Oblivion, competition between heroes, etc.) P.S. It's probably just me but I don't like how the series is becoming more and more modern. It loses the magic of the original. It's like making LOTR with flintlock pistols (in my opinion).
Peter, you want to improve Fable? Your character leveling system in Fable 2 sucked. It doesn't matter one bit what kind of character I create and develop, eventually they all do the same thing in the end, maxing all the stats out. Make the game challenging in difficulty, and allow room for specialization for characters. Allow characters to make their own weapons and build an actual looting system. Also bring in an MMO economy, where people can connect online to a marketplace and buy/sell/trade goods.
black and white was and probably still is ahead of its time. his vision for that title was limited by technology. black and white 2 brought the best systems to their knees for many years after its release. @ persistantthug down below. ---____--- really? at it's a core mgs4 is still a shooter. a true stealth title would see you finish the game without firing a shot Thief is more of a stealth game than MGS will ever be.
I wish lionhead would make BC for this gen. A prehistoric openworld rpg would be sweet. I remember when this got canned on Xbox and fable came out instead. Kind of my beef with Peter's hype. Why can't you make an awesome game that lives to promises shown years before?!?!??? At evrfighter, what are you a troll? You can make it through MGS4 without ever making sound, or killing anyone. It's a stealth game if you want it that way.
Syndicate was pretty damn good as well. Now, if he had said "I haven't made a great game for almost fifteen years," I might agree.
Poor guy. He should be grateful for the sales he do get. 3.5m is good but a Fable game will never pass 5m becuz 360 fans are FPS lovers. I bet he wish he could put Fable on PS3.
I still would not buy it if it was on PS3.
But I prefer RPG's I guess you got shot down with your comment now huh? And aren't there quite a few FPS on the PS3?? I see a lot of PS3 fans going crazy for KZ3...
i want it in ps3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! T_T , xbox360 fans doesn't deservee this game !! they don't want it !!! we want it !!!! trust me , if u put it in ps3 u'll win !!!! u'll get alots of fans and money !!! we just want to play it !!!!!!!! T_T
Has graced 5m sales? In fact, what 1st party ps3 game has graced 5m sales? In fact, what ps3 exclusive game has graced 5 million sales? Provide links please
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Stealth Action) [5 mil+] http://www.playstationunive... Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (Racing) [4.95 mil] http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...
Thanx for that. So still no first party? Still no non-shooter? 4.95 million is close but unfortunately that 50000 outstanding is still 50000 too much. Do you now see how retarded the original poster's comment was? @below, we aren't talking about AAA status, we're talking about sales because mr 1.2 spoke about sales. PS. Uncharted 2 is at 3.7 million sales. No where near 5 million. Unless you wanna say that Fable 2's 3.8 million is near 5 million in which case ok. Metal Gear is a shooting game, or at least has shooting elements. Uncharted 2 cannot be completed without shooting.
Non-Shooters too. A game doesnt need 5 million sales to be AAA. UC2 though is close to 5 mil is AAA, ME2 is AAA, Demon's Souls is AAA, KZ2, Batman AA, lots dont hit that mark but are still must haves.
Well that's why I game on my PC to get some of the very rare games that on exclusive to the 360 and PC that are worth my time like Fable 3. And that's pretty much it
And how many games on that platform are on that 5m+ sales club he is talking about? Hmmm? Chances are you didn't bother to read the article.
. http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... I'm sure Fable will sell well...they always do.
Yes you are correct. The first fable was just ok, while the second was a major disappointment. Not gonna waste my money buying part 3 just to be let down again.
Keep it up Dougie boy! (Douglas is his middle name)
LMAO! I love this guy. I like Fable. It's a solid RPG. Not mind blowing, but it's good.
Its true that he's never made a great game, not because he makes games for 360, its a good platform. Its also not because his games aren't great, alot of people really like Fable, for example. It's because he doesn't make them. He might come up with an idea, but I guarantee you he does very little actual game design, level design, coding etc etc. I hate game producers like him who talk like it is all his work. GTFO and give credit to the people actually making the game.
True to that. They are all bad.
"I believe him, yo. I don't know why, but I do."
he realized that. He's just an average developer. He can't break into the "AAA" club, not with the stuff he's making atleast.
I truly hope he doesn't listen to his critics who want him to STFU.
Populous?, Syndicate? Magic Carpet? weren't great games? A little too harsh on yourself Pete - lighten up!
Oh man, I forgot about Magic Carpet. That game was a lot of fun to play back in the day.
I still think Dungeon Keeper is the best strategy game I've ever played! I would kill for him to create a new entry of that. Populous and Black and White included. They're such good starting points, and should be brought back for this generation.
Kalypso is releasing "Dungeons" which is essentially Dungeon Keeper 3: http://www.rockpapershotgun... Syndicate revival: http://www.shacknews.com/on...
Yeah, I saw that! I'm very interested :)
I would add Dungeon Keeper and Black & White to that list. He has designed at lot of great games, but my main problem with him is his tendency to over-hype his projects. I can understand if he is exited about a new project and he has been visionary in the past, so if he has lowered the bar to be only about sales, I do not expect more great games from him.
it's a great game !!! if it's a ps3 exclusive !! they can improve this game too AAAAAAAAAAAAAA game !!! it have a very very good gameplay !!! i love it !! just put it in ps3 !! T_T
He speaks the truth.
this guy is hilarious!!
5+ mil to be a 'great game' sad, sad state of affairs. A great game makes a great game NOT great sales...all that great sales means is that its a commercial success. There has to be a balance, definitely but making the best game you can should be at the forefront of game development imo. Your earlier games were great as mentioned above...I dont care how much they sold, they gave us enjoyment.
Well said. I like a band called ISIS....you can't even buy their CD's in stores anywhere I know of, but they make good f-ing music, and that's all she wrote. Have you ever heard of them?, likely not, but it doesn't reduce my enjoyment. Measuring yourself in terms of commercial success would have all the great innovative bands in the world calling it quits because they can't sell as many albums as MJ... The tired old saying sales =/= quality applies.
My friend told me about ISIS, but I never really listened to them. I will now though. :)
Finally, a SANE comment. Well said.
Well, I'll help him with fable 3. 1 down 4,999,999 to go.
2 down 4,999,998 to go
3 Down 4,999,997 to go.
4 down 4,999,996 to go.
5 down, 4,999,995 to go. People may not like the Fable series, but I love it. I replayed Fable II a month ago with the DLC, and it was still an awesome game. Peter, you make great games. You have a fan for life simply because of the Fable series
4428709 to go
C-C-C-C COMBO BR- *Gets Punched* Umopapisdn: "F U Tre! We're continuing!"
"I've never made a great game." - Peter Molyneux . And you never will.
neither will you.
Molyneux is a great game visionary, he's just not as great as making those visions into games. He just hasn't nailed it yet, that doesn't mean he'll never create his magnum opus. It won't be Fable 3, but who knows what'll be next?
@Chuk5 logic at its finest...lol
Regardless of what Molyneux said i think the fable series are great games and are already triple A especially fable 3, if it wasn't they wouldn't be getting sequels wouldn't they?
Maybe he should work for Media Molecule LMAO @sexy shrimp, the dictator becomes the servant isnt that what the new fable is about? :)
Lol. Those are his old friends. The talent behind Fable and Black & White left to make LBP.
It was only 4 people who left to form Media Molecule, not a majority of the studio.
Like I said... ...the talent.
you are becoming quite a troll. i see you in every article making negative xbox comments. do you have a real life??? or is this what you live for???
“That club is five million units,” he says. “Once you can sell that many, you can get into that elite group.” Wrong. sales do not equal AAA and certainly doesn't mean it will be in a top 5 list. Although your honesty is quite respectable even if you are just looking for some sympathy =) ... sounds more like he's trying to convince us to buy fable 3 and expect it to be a "good game" which will probably be said around the time fable 4 is released as well. I suppose I could be wrong though...
Sales is quality
Not always sales =/= quality The things about sales, isn't MS helping with advertising ($) in order to sell more or what...
He throws in COD. I would agree that it's a great series, but which COD he's referring to depends on his definition of "great game". If he's talking about the ORIGINAL COD, or even COD:MW then I'd agree with him. If he's talking about any of the others then I'd disagree. And Halo:CE was definitely a winner in my book. H2 brought great multiplayer, poor SP. Reach was good but I haven't finished it yet and the multiplayer feels a bit recycled. I'm just hard to please I guess. That and I've gotten older and I think my standards have increased as well.
Wait a second, if Peter always lies about his games..then does that mean...all his games are masterpieces?
quite a paradoxical statement isn't it?
all of his games are average