Play-mag: "Obsidian get some stick for bringing out buggy games, but I don’t care. Why? Read on, reader."
It's a great, long single player game, so I don't mind a few glitches here and there, in fact some are pretty hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
How often does one come across a game that gives a single player experience that can last months doing everything. Not very often in this day and age. A few bugs is ok with me.
A lot of bugs are not. Fallout: NV crashed on me last night...and I lost over 3 HOURS OF PROGRESS. That is not a bug. It's a freakin' pain in the ass. I did a lot of cool things that are now just completely lost. I can't get the time back and I can't replay exactly how i had before, therefore ruining the outcome I was excited to see. It's one thing to have a bug. It's another to crash and cost me half of my game progress.
Dude, your playing Fallout, you should save more often, I do it about every 10 min., it's pretty quick.
I do save every 10 minutes... sometimes more often. Having played through Fallout 3 on two different formats, I know to save. That's the glitch. It literally erased over 30 saves. That's not okay.
Never had to many issues with Fallout 3 until the DLC and a little here an there. It's sad that they are back when its nearly 2011. But Fallout is an endless game with so much to do. Hell FO3 had around 100-150 main/side quests and twice as many unmarked quests. ALl those little quests to complete. I'll put up with bugs than to play an RPG like FFXIII ever again. On the quests: Are the unmarked sidequests actually tracked like Oblivion this time or are they still there scattered in the "notes" section or just from actual memory? I wish they would organize them more cuase there is so much crap to do. like keeping track of the Keeler Family or knowing about Andale. All those treasures are the reasons the Fallout world is so great. The Quest is grade A but all the little things are AAA+++!!!
@pogibaldy: Yea, if it corrupted your save files, that's not right. @NecrumSlavery: Some are on the notes, some smaller stuff are memory, which really sucks. Yea, it does have to be better organized.
...because worrying more about save games MORE than enjoyment and actually playing is just a pain in the butt. Constant game crashes are painful and ruin any chances of me buying this game.
Except that there are more than just "a few bugs". Gamers like you are to blame for this. You roll over and say "welllll it's Fallout so me like!" instead of demanding quality.
Alright, you keep waiting for that perfect glitch-free Fallout then.
No game is glitch free, but it's a developers job ensure a gamer's experience is not ruined because of software issues.
@MidnytRain: That's where you're wrong, they have a deadline, blame the publisher.
A few glitches are fine. RDR had its share, and they didn't stop it from being a great game. But that's not what we're talking about here. F:NV suffers from choppy gameplay, random dropped framerates, and freezes/crashes. That's inexcusable.
Had it freeze on me twice during the Sunny Smiles tutorial mission. I belive its due to the death cinamatic, that causes it for me, becuase that's how it froze both times after killing geckos.
Bugs help take away the experience of playing the game. I had (all too often) bugs in Fallout 3 that either made me load another save and completely abandon my current save because of a horrible glitch, freeze the game up so that I had to start what I was doing all over again, destroy my save, and so on. I hate glitches and Bethesda is a company who (even though it was developed by Obsidian) is not known to be a company to put out nice patches to make all those glitches go away.
Devs realize they can release half assed games using SLIGHTLY modified game engines they used before with SLIGHTLY updated models and content and release them filled with bugs. It's bad for the industry and the consumer.
A game chock-full of bugs and fans of the game want everyone to "let it go" but games like GT5, which isn't even out yet, is getting banged for glitches that may not even be in the final release. Incredible.
RDR2 all over again, but I never experienced any glitches as opposed to being stuck on the horse. But on FO:NV, I haven't seen any glitches still.
FFXIV buggy but completely playable everyone shits on it. Fallout buggy but completely playable (not even a great under taking like an MMO) no one cares. Im so glad i play games not reviews/sales Edit: not saying fallout is a bad game in anyway.
Lets be fair. the reviews of FFIV said the game had many other problems, not just bugs. It is not the same thing dude.
Fallout is getting awesome reviews (rightfully so i assume i never played it but i can tell its great) and all the buggs like losing data (a pretty big bug) is ingnored. Ive been in FFXIV since closed beta and i play every day still and its not bad at all and i think a 4/10 for that game is just insane. All im saying is be fair to all games.
If it's even half as bad as Fallout 3 was, it never should've been released. Fallout 3 was the buggiest, most broken game I've ever played.
So far, I've found New Vegas actually to be WORSE than Fallout 3, which I didn't think was possible. I had a few freezes in FO3, but NV is already laggy as hell and I'm barely 3 hours in.
SO WHAT!!! SO WHAT!!! OK some of us have sunk $60/£40 others $50/£30 for a game that was released broken and you say SO WHAT!!! That is like purchasing a car that has been hyped for months then breaks down on the first trip Now I'm still waiting for the UK Steam release but from the other threads people are quite happy that they have paid $60/£40 for a broken game, well I expect better Bringing the truth no matter how bad it hurts (Fallout 3 Three dog (: ) Here is PC footage (watch in HD), can't wait for Mods :) http://www.youtube.com/watc...
No one said this when Alpha Protocol came out. It was just bashed.
Alpha Protocol was actually a pretty fun game, I played most of it and had a good time.
I Will Never Understand why People Support these developers... its inexcusable to release a game like that!
Man once you get about 10 hours into this the bugs and crashing is just unbearable. Im done til I get word a patch is out, although im very happy I decided to just rent this from gamefly. If I spent 60 bones on this Id probably throw a fit.
granted I have only played about 3 hours but have only had some screen tearing at night. so is this pc xbox bugs? or do I just need to play through more of the game?
Hehe, keep playing, the framerate, bugs and complete crashes get a LOT worse and more frequent. Enjoy. Any time you do anything, such as obtain an item that you like or make any amount of progress you dont want to lose, SAVE THE GAME!!!!
Just like FO3, it crashes more the bigger your save file gets.
so in other words: The longer you play Fallout, the more the chances of the game crashing.
Obsidian/Black Isle/Interplay whatever you wanna call them have been making awesome bug-ridden RPG's for years. If they DIDN'T have bugs, I'd be concerned. :-)
Typical modern day gaming thinking. 'I didn't bother to iron out the glitchs, so what?' or ' It doesn't do everything I said it could, so what?' or ' It looks like I copied and paste the last game, so what' . Just play it and shut up. And everyone says 'Okay'. As long as you hyped it and made good commercials that must means something is wrong with me for wanting quality.
A game can be bad and yet have absolutely no bugs. similarly, a game can be good and have many bugs. Fallout is a game that has many bugs, yet it is very good. At the end, its the gameplay and how much fun it is that makes me love a game. If it is fun and the gameplay is there, then i can probably deal with a few bugs. It depends.
the rest os forgetable
and get MOH and see if any of my xbl or psn friends try and talk me into getting black ops, other then that the only game that interest me is castlevania other then that nothing until GT5 or LBP2 which ever comes first... so i'll continue my journey to the plat for WKC ^^
pounds is a lot of money for what according to most sites is a giant expansion with the same bugs as the original game. Seems like they could have made this cheaper. Maybe a tenner less. Its personal prefs at the end of the day so I will save my 37 pounds. you all do as you like.
Some games its "ok" for bugs others its a crime! L.M.A.O.
So what for some. No sale for me. I don't care if it is a business program or game, software with a lot of glitches is not worth spending 60 dollars on.
I know its buggy...and I still don't care....I know I should...but I don't
this just shows no matter how big a company nor game is there will always have issues with when it's released!
Talented devs make good games and properly bugtest them. Obsidian are just lazy. And sites like these are just them a free pass. Why bother properly bugtesting if they're gonna get good reviews anyway?
I am really enjoying the game, but I can't help but feel Obsidian was far too lazy about testing/fixing the final product. I played FO3 thoroughly (150+ hours) and did not experience 10% of the bugs/glitches/freezes that I am experiencing with FNV after only 10 hours.
I love it when people say glitches are tolerable as long as its the game from there favorite franchise. Now when its a game they don't like glitches are a pain in the ass from them. I must admit there are always gonna be gaming fans who are hypocrites, there a bit of hypocrisy in everyone including me.
It comes down to discipline in putting your standards above your game addictions. If you can keep that focus when making a purchase, you sometimes open yourself up to buying alternative games that are pretty good, but may not have purchased otherwise. Sometimes it ends up an addition by subtraction.
we are being asked to pay $60+ these video games, it's not too much to ask that major, game breaking bugs are addressed prior to release. i don't expect a game to be a flawless experience, i know that games like Fallout 3 and New Vegas are large, expansive games, but the truth is, Bethesda (and even Obsidian), have been making this same exact game for over a decade now. their production work flow should be running as smooth as a greased wheel these days. having endured game breaking bugs in Oblivion (and earlier Bethesda games), Fallout 3, and New Vegas, i'm not willing to give Bethesda and Obsidian any more free passes. they are new to the industry, and they aren't new to this genre of games. yes, New Vegas is good (i'm currently watching my wife play; i've only played a small fraction myself), but i spent what little money i have on games to purchase THIS particular title. i at least expect it to run properly and not, say, erase my saves, or make it so some random quest is unable to be completed, and i'm stuck with vampirism for the rest of my game (Oblivion, for those that don't know). i'm tired of certain developers getting free passes for issues that, if it was any other game/franchise, or developer, they'd be taken to task for it. game breaking bugs have a DIRECT impact on my enjoyment of a game, no matter how fun the game may be. i shouldn't have to do some ritualistic prayer when booting up my games in fear that they won't function properly when it loads (IF it loads...).
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