GR - The first set of pictures and the official press slides of Radeon HD 6800 series have hit the internet. The slides leaked via chiphell.com reveal the features and specs of the both the cards, including 3DMark Vantage results!
So the 6870 is the new 5850? Guess they're changing up the name scheme a bit. I'm curious to see the new 6970.
That would make the 6850 the 5830... wtf can't these guys ever stick to a solid naming scheme. Nvidia did the same thing with the 8xxx and the 9xxx series. I'm not expecting much tbh.. lets hope ATI.. scratch that.. AMD gets the drivers right or everybody will be screwed. Catalyst hasbn't been the greatest lately whith the 460 trading blows with the 5850, the 470 on par with the 5870 and the 480 is in between the 5870 and 5970.
how I hate the rebranding scheme. I may have used ATI cards exclusively for the past 6 years in my pc builds (not including my own). but I don't have an ounce of loyalty to them. the 6870 looks like it's gonna be a hot ticket item. but switching the numbers up is just stupid. Nothing wrong with trying to maximize profit but it just means Nvidia gpu's are back on "to watch" list for me. havn't used Nvidia since the mx4400 :D
Yeah that doesn't make any sense how they went from a high end card "5870" to "6870" but is equivalent to a "5850" in terms of performance... What's going to be their equivalent to a 5970??? A 6990? 8780??? It's confusing to say the least. Oh well, looking forward to the new Nvidia's instead in which it's supposedly going to be more powerful than a GTX480.
AMD have some good parts here. Ignore the naming scheme change, these cards will make AMD money and lots of it, versus the pittance nvidia make on the massive GTX4 series that have had major yield problems. This is still business after all, nvidia can match the performance but cant match the price AMD can sell these chips at while still making a healthy margin. The stat of note is that 6870 will be faster than 5850 and not too far from a 5870, yet its die size is a mere 255mm squared. That is a superb areal efficiency gain for a GPU created on the same process and bodes well for the high end cards. I can see a 6970 being less than 400mm squared while offering up GTX480 thrashing performance, which is a huge GPU and preposterously expensive to manufacture being 529mm squared. AMD have serious advantages and room to manoeuvre when it comes to pricing. They have gained ground on nvidia in market share, its unlikely to stop unless nvidia can pull a blinder out of the bag on 28nm.
Well this series I will go red!!
I am getting ready to do a budget gaming PC build soon and that 6850 looks nice. Comparable to the 5830, a bit below the 5850 but with a single 6pin setup and a low power draw. I'll grab one and crossfire them later. Should be good bang for the buck.
I'm hoping to buy the 5870 successor sometime next year 6000 series is looking like another good one
Namely from the 6870 i somehow was hoping it would beat out the 5870. I seriously don't see one thing making any of these better than anything currently on the market from ATI.
These are not their high end cards. New naming scheme. These are actually entry level cards. Meant to replace the 5830 and below.
Entry level and mid range cards. The high end ones come after
Me like the lookie, maybe i'll pick this up next year.
I told everyone not to get too excited AMD said it themselves, this release is an 'efficiency update' I think they are moving from SIMD to MIMD computing ala fermi so despite the obviously cut down 5850 it may well perform on par, which will make things cheaper for AMD and the consumer....but not necessarily more powerful. I'm sure there will be a few custom PCB cards worth looking at. But the 5000 series was a failure. Remember how everyone mocked Nvidia for using a unified CUDA based tessellation system...and AMD went with a stand alone tessellation unit...look how that turned out. Lost planet 2 with DX11 on high gets around 60 frames on a gtx480 at stock...and 25 on a 5870...the benefit of using the shader cores for DX11 on nvidia is that overclocking also boost tessellation performance...something that does not happen with the 5000 series. I think the 6000 series will be lucky to even match DX11/AA efficiency of the 400 series. http://www.legionhardware.c... GTX480 with High DX11 and 4aa= 60 frames 5870 " "=25 frames LOLOLOLOLOL With my card overclocked get 60 frames constant with 32CSAA... I shudder to think what a 5870 would get with those settings.
sure ... comparing ati card againt a nvidia card that is more expensive and came 6 month later not to forget the game was optimized for nvidia cards . good try nvidia fanboy lets hope in the next drive update they dont burn you card .. again also the 6800 series are going to replace the 5700 series not the 5800
Countless benchmarks and articles have confirmed that DX11 and tesselation performance of Fermi outclasses the 5000 series. There's not much arguing this.
"good try nvidia fanboy lets hope in the next drive update they dont burn you card .. again " You're forgetting one thing. Kepler. If the 6970 will be between a GTX480 and a 5970, then the Kepler should be above a 5970. Who knows, we'll see how it goes. "Here again, the jump forward will be in the order of a 3 to 4 times increase in performance per Watt on the preceeding architecture (Kepler for those who aren't following)."
@sarcasm your name makes me thingk you may be talking poop but, kepler was mean to be realeased in 2011, right?? and fermi 2009?? but ohh wait, fermi was delayed big time so i am sure kepler will be to and ati should have anew batch of cards on there way. sure im not 100% sure but thats the most logical assumption
The 5xxx series was a failure? LOLOLOL As for Tessallation in REAL World Games. This is what HARDOCP.COM had to say about this: "That last paragraph is fairly damning in my opinion and it raises some big questions. Is Ubisoft in NVIDIA's pocket and pushing technology while ignoring the company with the largest DX11 market share? Is NVIDIA pushing a benchmark of a yet-to-be released game that is somewhat broken on its competitors cards? We know NVIDIA's current GPU has more Tessellation power than AMD's latest, but we have yet to see it make a difference in anything besides a benchmark. I think this shows NVIDIA grasping at straws and I don't think it has anything up its sleeve that AMD does not already have as well; like refinements in TSMC's 40nm process."
The stock core clock on the 6870 is really high. Means you would have to hit 1080 mhz just to get a 20% overclock. I wonder if it can even do that.
At least not until they find a way to get Physx and Tessellation to work better.
Not excited until games can start taking advantage of the 4000series let alone 5000 and 6000 series.
I wonder if it can handle Killzone 3...
Come on, give it another shot, surely you have something better than that?
I wonder if it can handle Mario 64
I'm done with AMD cards. Nvidia aren't perfect either but they're the lesser of the two evils.
when are the high end cards coming?
November will be the 5870 successor, December the 5970 successor, at least that's the plan.
here is the asus hd6850 unboxing.... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
For all those wanting specs on AMD's new cards.... Here you go. Bubbles and thank you's are appreciated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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