TVGB: "US gamers wishing to own Kinect on day one may need to get a move on; retailers may not soon be able to make a day 1 availability guarantee. Not even to those who pre-order."
Kinect will be the must have Xmas gift this year. When the marketing blitz starts things will get even crazier.
it is going to be BIG you wont be able to miss it also 500 million will be spent on advertising W7 phone, thats a BILLION dollars in total,imagine the first party studios they could have got for that? microsoft are not playing, i can see kinect being the must have gadget this christmas through pure hype in advertising,my avatar says it all....ruthless
Yep, its gunna be big indeed. Hopefully, my local Bestbuy ill have a kiosk so I can try it out.
For both move and kinect.... was pretty interesting to see. Probably even funnier was that nobody was at either one.
...The death of gaming as we knew it has begun. Games won't be about great titles on the minds of developers, nor original IPs. They will be from now on party games like being ON A BOAT, DANCING, OR WAVING YOUR ARMS LIKE YOU WERE IN KINDERGARTEN. These will be sad years for gaming, indeed...
OMG... enough with this end of the gaming world nonsense. Great games are still going to be coming. Sony is still churning out some great games that are mature, hardcore and not all about "motion control". MS like wise has gone on record saying the gaming pad isn't going anywhere. Gears of War 3 is a prime example of a hardcore, non-motion game that MS is totally going to get behind. They didnt push it to holiday for no reason. Its going to be their flag ship holiday 2011 game. Motion controls have certainly changed the landscape of gaming, but they certainly are not killing it.
I'm moving back to PC gaming. I thought I'd be able to ride it out until the next generation before doing that, but I don't think I can. I just look at the direction console gaming is going in and I shake my head. I guess Sony's got a great year ahead of them with a cornucopia of exclusive core games, but Microsoft's going hog wild with their motion cam. If they're spending half a billion dollars on advertising, you can bet your ass their prime focus for 2011 is going to be this nonsensical device from gaming's past. This is what I always feared about the Wii's success, and it's coming to fruition almost exactly as I had imagined it.
I have to say, while I'm not big on motion controls, at least Kienct isn't the same thing as Wii, unlike the Move. I am however surprised it's this popular.
It's the eyetoy, so what now?
Eyetoy tracks in 3D? Eyetoy tracks 20 seperate individual points on the human body? http://www.gamasutra.com/vi... If so then yes Kinect is very much like eyetoy...if not, then clearly Kinect and Eyetoy's only similarity is that they are both using camera's. Ramzadel please stop trying to spread ignorance and misinformation. Thanks. Be apart of the solution rather than apart of the problem.
....man of the year. that is an excellent comment.
. . I think what Ramzadel was pointing out is that: If Dizko says that Move is the same thing as the Wii. It is like saying Kinect is the same thing as PS eye. (Remember he was just replying to someone making a claim) But if we'll use YOUR logic (which to me makes more sense): - Can Wii support augmented reality? - Can Wii support 1:1 3D Tracking? - Can Wii support HD games? - Can Wii support dual motion controller games? - Does the Wii have accelerometers, grav sensors, and gyros to send back it's location if the sensor got covered. - Does Wii have the precision of Move? ... then we will both arrive at the conclusion that: - Move is NOT = Wii - Kinect is NOT = PS Eye cause they are both better versions and technologies compared to their predecessors. . . What I'm saying is that: IF you'll apply the same logic to compare them with their predecessors ... you can't say one of them is a copy and the other is not (and vice-versa) .
@Silly Sundae Yeah that is the argument I was making, but Zapp Branigan here obviously is going to go into details which I already know. He is essentially saying Kinect is a new technology and it has never been done before. So I am actually spreading right information. READ before typing please. Man_of_the_year please stop trying to spread your dense babbling. Thanks. Be part of the solution rather than part of the problem. =p
Another article about pre-orders.... :( Boring N4G!
Game retailers are pushing it. Every time I go into a shop to buy a game, I am always asked if i want to pre-order it, they have signs up everywhere and they use words and phrases like - "Are you sure, you are going to want it later in the year and you wont be able to get it". I dont know why they are pushing it so hard, maybe they are getting some sort of bonus for getting preorders on it.
It's not a bonus, it's marketing. Nintendo does it, Sony does it, Microsoft does it, other companies do it. It's just that Microsoft's intent this holiday times is to push Kinect like crazy. It's not if a product is entirely good or anything, it's more so of pushing the customer's influence to buy it. It worked in the past, and it'll still work today. Those of us that can make up our own minds however, need a lot more influence to persuade into getting products.
My gf quit gamestop from low pay and she made the most there, you get bonuses for making a quota with pre orders, her being a hour ass girl was able to get tons of pre orders on wrestling games and zelda. They put a ton of pressure on people to make pre orders. If you dont get alot they cut your hours for some one who does, just business. She was only bringing home slightly over $200 a week, they try to make it enticing by allowing you to rent games for free. I had her quit and find a better job and we have gamefly now :)
@shadyiswin Well yea, for some of those things, not all though. The normal grunts don't see a lick of that bonus. :p Plus that whole hours thing isn't a bonus to me, but a cheap way for them to seep money away from the workers. =\
Better off getting this next year after the holiday season. Last month was crazy with just Reach and the new 360S. With Reach out, Fable 3 coming up, Kinect and COD MS is going for a 1 2 3 4 combo knock out.
But why would you support Kinect when you know that it'll bring about the end of core gaming on the 360? How can any self-respecting gamer support this thing? Think about it man, the ONLY game worth getting next year is gonna be Gears 3 in Fall, that's it. Why? Becuase MS is so focused on Kinect! Stop being blind man.
Microsoft endsless money still not many 1st party devs... i Wonder with 1 Bilions couldnt they buy Konami , Square Ênix and Rockstar ?
and ppl wonder why goldman sachs recommended that they kill or split the entertainment/devices division off lol.
developers don't want to be tied down to a single platform, that's why bungie/insomniac wanted to split. its the way the industry is moving these days. it goes like this: studio gets bought out by a big manufacturer, then they (hopefully) create a smash hit video game that sells millions, now they have enough independence to buy themselves out. and they are free to make almost double what they did before as a multiplat developer.
But MS is pretty much pushing all the right buttons in 2010. And to be honest, for their 2nd gaming console they have absolutely hit a homerun with the 360. Despite the RROD, despite only having DVD, despite being the only paid for online service and despite not having Wifi integrated at launch... MS has truly been genius when it has come to the 360 this gen and overcome many hurdles that most thought were too big to overcome.
Only because some people, are sheeps and like more the sells and marketing than games.
From a business standpoint only, MS does not need anymore 1st party studios. They hype they are creating with Kinect will make them sell even more Xbox's. Now it would be better if MS focused on more exclusive games, however ladies this si a business and as such, MS is targeting an area that has growth. The Wii crowd. And if these reports are true, they are going to get some of that crowd.
Well Dizko. Kinect is just the same thing like Eyetoy.People try to pretend it isn't but it's line up is proof enough. Haven't seen anything that proves otherwise. So please stow the 'Move is the same thing as Wii' garbage for once please. Kinect isn't revolutionary. It's the same damn thing Sony came up with years ago.
I agree with you in a way but it is a updated version of the eye toy like Move is a updated version of the wii. Kinect offers more than the PSeye just like the move offers more than the wii. Every company works this way the ps3 is the same as the 360 or the 360 is the same as the ps2 and so on. Every company copies another company some get it right like the Iphone. and some get it wrong like sega did.
Neither the Move nor Kinect appear on the surface to be revolutionary. Both appear to be better versions of tech / concepts already done. Why dont you stow your "its Eyetoy" garbage along side the "Move is Wii" garbage and we can all just enjoy the games we want to play and enjoy the tech we wish to play with? We all know each has its own unique properties that make them more than what they appear.
The real test is if anyone still want one after xmas. MS releasing Kinect just before the holidays is a smart move, making it a hot item But it could backfire if customers aren't satisfied, leading to low demand early next year. Also there aren't many interesting games coming out for Kinect soon, so how will they keep the interest up?...
Kinect will sell a lot no doubt, I hope i can try the device at least. To see what its like tho i think ill get myself one later. MS is going to advertise the hell out of this that is one good thing they are good at is advertisement a good strategy and they push it hard.
Exacly andron666. That is the true test. After Xmas we will see who is still playing with there motion controls. Sale will mean nothing if more than half the people who brought it give it back.
Now it makes sense in why ps move came out 2 months earlier. Sony knew kinect was going to be bigger then move and they also knew when it comes to advertising you can't win against MS. Even tho move is great, for some reason I see kinect being really big for casuals gamers. That's good for MS.
Of course preorders are going to run out. Sony did the same thing with MOVE, they only sold Limited numbers at the start to test the waters.
Here's what I suspect will happen with both the Move and Kinect. Fanboys will buy both on launch (2 million sold already for Move). Kinect will sell a million or so more due to their advertising to the Beiber, soccer mom crowd and the USA's penchant for buying anything that's hyped up enough (I'm American btw). BOTH will be collecting dust on living room entertainment center shelves in 6 months due to a lack of a killer app. Sorry but Dance Central and Sports Champions doesn't cut it. FYI - I own Move now, I played it the first few weeks and stopped after beating Kenji on Gold level in Sports Champions table tennis. My girl plays Tumble all the time though. I will probably get Kinect for girlfriend/party purposes but I'm not fooling myself into thinking that either of these systems will produce anything compelling enough to make me say "OMG I HAVE to have IT!!!" For me, Move holds more practical promise though as many people who play MAG with it say that after getting used to it it's more fun to play an FPS with than a DS3. I guess I'll see for myself when Killzone 3 comes out.
Kinect will release a stream of titles I'm sure, they already have all the tgs titles for february to release. You dont spend 500 million to kill off a product 3 months later. There will be games a plenty, just dance 2 should be making it's way to kinect, along with a few games using kinect feature with a controller, then there will be the star wars game for holiday 2011. I only buy maybe 3 games a year. This year reach, kinect, maybe fable, dance central even though dance masters looks fun too. Next year gears 3, kindoms maybe, forza 4, 2 cheap kinect games like the brain training and the horror game, it's still early who knows what they will come up with.
why are people buying this crap!?
I was thinking the samething when they were talking about move.
Probably because you don't read the review, and you are not a gamer fanboy.
to have fun.
One of the best responses to date. Question: why are people buying this crap? Answer: to have fun. Somehow we all seem to have lost sight of motion gaming done right...is fun! Hence why the Wii has done so well... its just fun. Wii sports? its fun
My local Gamestop had cut off pre-orders already but MSFT shipped more and pre-oders status resumed
I knew it would do well, since I saw it at E3. People are interested in it, it's going to push consoles and they have a decent lineup to start with, I know I have Kinect pre ordered and 4 games pre ordered, including Sonic Free Riders. It's release is perfect timing for those looking for Christmas gifts, due to the high demand, it'll sell well above the 4 million this year alone that was projected.
And again the question to these articles must be - if Kinect is sold out, then why the $500 Million marketing campaign. Do the calculations. It would mean that Kinect consists of $50 hardware and $100 marketing if they are to sell 3.3 Million units.
my local Best Buy and Frys Electornics in atlanta are still taking pre-orders as well as GameStops and EB games. and i have asked around and they are saying people are asking about it but the amount of questions aren't revolving into pre-orders
I believe they said the pre-orders were sold out à week ago??? Did they restock the 50 ones that went out to store? Be quick, we have 50 more for anyone willing to pay? Yay! Oh the irony!
When this thing sells like crazy, you are going to see 50 or more articles of hate towards Kinect like you have never witnessed LOL
What is more funny, future "articles of hate toward kinect" or the simple fact that people buy crappy eye toy without game ? :)
when this garbage fails like hd-dvd you will thank me.we'll see... lets see who wins then.
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