Is Mass Effect's presentation at PAX 2007 disappointing and lifeless as one blogger claimed? See and judge for yourself.
Please let me know. They're not working for me.
I can watch them at the sources, (i.e., follow the links to the sources,) but GT video never plays here at N4G.
I can see them normally...
This walkthrough looks really good. The graphics have been improved, they improved the quality of the level design as well. It looks alot less repetitive then the e3 walkthrough.
I have no idea why destructoid stated this as a disappoitment, this is by far the best quality of mass effect I have seen.
THe only problem I have with the game, is the massive auto aim.
The reason why it may look like it has "massive auto aim" is because he was using a shotgun for most of the combat vid. But I have read that shooting isn't pixel specific (meaning there is some auto-aim, just not that big). There may be a way to remove it at the menu.
By just the circle. He was shooting 3 to 5 feet away from the opponent.
There were only a couple animation hitches, but besides that, incredible.
This game, like I said before, is #1 on my list. This game looks incredible and has epic written all over it.
You took the words out of my mouth, Dr Pepper.
I have no doubt that it's going to set a new standard for RPG's. While it might not be for everyone, it is definitely for me. 8)
I'll pass. I never understood RPG's you walk and talk for 30 hours and game for 2 hours.
For example, look at the cut scenes in Heavenly Sword. Those are so well done that you are really interested in moving forward in the game to find out what will happen between the characters.
The dialog in ME is standard robotic Sci-Fi cliche. It will appeal to Stargate fans no doubt - or anyone that isn't heavily into science fiction.
great video, this is one rpg i want to play
apparently this game is in good shape than any other next gen game no matter the genre
This game gets better everytime I see it..
Man so that is what a true next gen rpg looks like. Bioware never stops amazing me. This game is going to be a must have. Does anyone know when it comes out?
yeah everybody free to their opinion but that looks fkn sweet to me,
Thanks calphoenix, great stuff.
How can any non-retarded human being actually say that video was dissapointing. In what way? the dialogue was simply superb- and those who disagree I challenge you to reference any other game that has taken in-game dialogue to the level that Mass Effect has mastered. And the combat, it plays like a standard 3rd person shooter (not an FPS)hooked with an easy to use command system and mixed together with classic RPG elements- like upgradable weapons, character customization, dialogue trees, yada yada yada. WHAT MORE CAN YOU WANT?
No one should EVER doubt this game, especially when all the REAL-TIME footage being released continues to be outstanding. Now, of course, this is my opnion and I could be wrong. All i ask is that anyone who disagrees (the treachery!) should explain in full what was wrong w/ the three videos shown based on the OTHER competition.
The facial expression, gameplay, and etc looks a lot more polished. Why do people make such a big deal about what some blogger said from a unpopular website? What is PAX compared to Ign, Gamespot, Gamespy, and gamepro? Nothing!!!! I paid for this game and Too Human already in advance so I am on track for both games.
first, nobodys seems to notice that there are NO CHANGES IN FACIAL EXPRESSIONS during conversations? everyone looks zombified. second, there are many instances when the characters look frozen with no movement.(not even eye movement) they look like manaquins nailed to the floor. third, character movement(when they do move)looks awkward and unnatural.and finally, the enviroments look like something that would be done in and original xbox game. if it were just one or two things i noticed, but this is a lot. i know many above me are gushing, but seriously-is this what you expected? or more to the point, if this were a ps3 game, would you all still be so positive. maybe i hoped for too much, but i certainly am disappointed in this.
I have to disagree with you. I looked at the videos again and I saw changes in facial expressions. Maybe the resolution is bad on your screen. The standing still thing. They are solders. They are suppose to be in attention. All I can say about the enviorment is that if that looks like something from the original xbox seriously get some glasses. I have to agree with you on the walking it is a bit clumsy.
A similar question could be directed towards you. Would you really be complaining about all these things that you said you noticed if it was a PS3 exclusive and not 360 (I saw changes in facial expression, not sure why you didn't)? But no matter, I'll answer your question. If this game was announced for the PS3, it would still look like an awesome game. Would it still have this much attention from me and be #1 on my list? No, and that is because I don't have a PS3 (unfortunately).
Edit: And I agree with Kuest and Neoninja, this does not look like something that could be done in an original Xbox game, not even close.
please take another look at the videos. Seriosuly, do a double check and another take after that. And if your eyes STILL fail to adjust- you must see an eye doctor. I am recommending this because in your embarrasing post, you posted that the footage you just witnessed- was like a XBOX game. Now everyone has an opnion (no matter how absurd) but you might want to rethink your dissapoinment in Mass Effect since nearly all *recognized* gaming sites - IGn, Gamespot, 1up, Gamespy, Gamesradar, etc- have literally been hailing this game as a sure-to-be masterpiece. You, nor one particular blog, is gonna change that.
I don't no what you are taking about, but what I saw contradicts what you said. Mass Effect looks to have the best facial expression ever!!! It's not like Heavenly Swords when the only time you get to see good facial expression is in the cut scenes, that's it!!!! Mass Effect have all of that in gameplay!!!! The gameplay plays like Ghost Recon, which is good. The game is still in development until November so they have enough time to fix the characters movement, so relax!!!!
and bioware's track record there really isn't much to worry about.
Now the same could be said about some ps3 games as well.
Because i do think that people were quick to jump to conclusions of heavenly sword being bad. Though we still have other sites to hear from.
Either way people need to grow up(not everyone mostly the extreme fanboys on both sides) and stop being antisocial, pimple faced, immature 30 year olds who live in their moms basement(TheMart wagglelol, nasim/larry007 you name the most extreme ones, not the typical fanboys) or 12 year olds(sometimes you cant really tell on this site. Which is quite sad really.
The fact that people are abnormally obsessive of their own console of choice and have pure hate for the other side.
But hey, maybe mass effect wont be all its cracked up to be, but that could be true of really any game.
This game and it's story come across as a very deep experience! No complaints on my end and I just hope it ships soon! I don't know about you guys but this game really has me excited kind of like a movie if you know what I mean! Video games have come so far and games across all of the platforms seem to be getting better and better!
Does anyone know if there will be a collector's/limited edition of Mass Effect?
ok, this is a great example of how sad some people have become on this site.
The man asked a question " does anyone know if there is a limited edition ? " and someone disagreed.
would that someone please explain how you disagree with " does anyone know if there is a limited edition ".
i mean that is going beyond fanboyism, that is a classic case of being brain damaged. Did someone drop that PS3 on your head or something ?
in answer to your question Dr P, yes i think it has been confirmed there will be a limited edition.
These interactive cut scenes look great! The actual gameplay, not so much!
but NOW after seeing those new, mouth-watering videos- This is the game to get. And to be honest (I know people are going to attack), this game just might take GOTY. Yeah, yeah I know how awsome Biosock is, but I still can't help but feel a little more excited for the game developed by the same masterminds who made KOTOR- those games just don't happen by accident. It takes the mind of a genius, and Bioware definitely has a trackrecord.
Need this game to suck they can't afford another BioShock to help 360's appeal this Holliday; not with Halo 3 coming(thats what the battle on the home page is about on top).
Nice find calphoenix.
#14 give theMart some cred man he was commenting on games that have been played through in and out - in reviews not previews that go against the general publics Observations. People lucky enough to keep up with this game knows it was Bullshit this games is more advanced than any other but isn't different enough to say it sucks.
The previewers see what we see thats why people said HUH?. Review-preview. Seems like a nobel post but makes little sense when attacking TheMart.
Anyways can't wait.
What the previewer said that sucked isn't why Most people want this game anyways, real time story alteration, Squad charactor AI or general AI, cusomization and explorering are whats appealing.
I wonder what that new footage looks like running in a 360 in HD. Its easy to say why so many people have different opinion on the art, its just the lighing changing in environments.
Well I'm glad to see that another game conversation turned into ps3 fanboys suck, and people need appointments with eye doctors because they had an opinion.
1. I definitely saw the puppet like facial action, yes it was there.
2. Yes the reporter did blow it out of proportion by about a hundred thousand times.
3. Even though the reporter seemed to think that crapped the whole game I would call it minor at most and think it still looks phenomenal and I would bye a 360 for this game.
I can't be any more honest than that
EDIT: The humans were the only ones who seemed noticeable the alien guy moved fluidly I thought that seemed funny. LOL
I think that was about as honest as you can be, I never seen a game do INGAME(not cut scene) conversation so well, there is changes in the facial expressions but no its not as accurate as you would see in a movie, but thats really nitpicking, the game isnt perfect but its lookin pretty fkn good and its not finished, I think mostly the comments are venting because like you said the other report blew it waaaay out of porportion, anyway I have no doubt when the game drops its going to have a MASSive Effect at the cash register.= lucky bastards.
I may have be mistaken to recommend doctor appointments (who am I, right?) but let's face it- opnions will always be subjected to criticsm. Otherwise how could there be any standard for which people go by? How could there possibly be right or wrong? If its my opinion that all minorities in America are stupid criminals who should be wiped from the face of the earth- should people just say "well, to each his own"?
The answer is yes and no. Yes, people should respect another person's opnion and beliefs, but thats not to say they cannot argue why a certain claim (Mass Effect looks like an Xbox game) is not the case. Okay?
When it comes to games, almost everything is subjective- When you read any sort of gaming review, you are simply reading an expert opnion. Whenever somebody states a claim, people have the right to reject it and argue why. Basically, people can differ in opnion, but that doesnt mean we cannot argue why a claim (Mass Effect looks like an Xbox game) is clearly not the case. Just take a look at Ridick (best Xbox game-graphically) and compare to Mass Effect .
P.S- I was wrong about the glasses thing
Well there certainly is some "uncanny valley" effect! But that won't stop me from playing this hopefully awesome game!
The so called 'destructoid' must have lost his eyeglasses.
The dialoque scenes are on an equal high level as the Heavenly Sword cutscenens but theres a big benefit for the gameflow - they're interactive.
I'll buy both games - i'm no hater.
gameplay looks quite boring to me and the running and cover system looked like a copypaste from Gears... only a rental for me.
but it's the BEST of its kind.
Remember: all those conversations and body languages are INTERACTIVE. The scenes cut back and forth between characters during conversation - as you play the game and choose the dialog options. Playable characters and non-playable characters show the appropriate body language and hand gesture as they talk, as the player play through the dialogue. All those conversations are integrated parts of the gameplay. Unlike Heavenly Sword, they are NOT just cutscenes that you have to sit back and watch and no play.
In the videos, I notice that when the player stops choosing a response option during the on-going dialogue, the NPC turns away from the main character and gets back to whatever they are doing - instead of just waiting for the main character to pick a dialogue option. When the main character starts talking again, the NPC turns around and continues the dialogue.
what other games offer that kind of gameplay?
wow look at the disagrees, fanboys on a rampage. Disagree all you want but the game is shaping up great. There are still some kinks to work out but its no where near Destructoid's flaming pos preview
Here's another one from GameSpot.
i downloaded the larger version, I personally thought it looked great
Who ever is phantom disagreeing could they please stop, anyway....this game is incredible.
Imho the game graphically looks amazing but it's ruined by very very bad voice acting.
Anyway the game looks pretty boring and I almost fell asleep watching these videos but of course I'd like to see some more of it before judging it more extensively
They need to seriously come out with an update that forces the people that disagree to leave a comment as to why they did it! I could see if someone said something that was out of place and fanboyish but who ever this phantom coward is just really needs to stop already!
and if you disagree with me, make sure you tell me why in November...
Its like that because PS3 fanboys suck!, when they stop coming PS3 fanboy comments will be no more. lol
Don't be stupid man picking sh*t apart that no one cares about Give the devs some cred guy I don't know what you're looking for but its not going to happen in this generation lol.
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