Gabe Newell smack talks the PC, PS3,XBOX 360

Valve's own Gabe Newell gave a talk at Leipzig the other day and did their share of doling out insults to both the 360 and PS3, while showering compliments on the PC.

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doshey4077d ago

ya why should we care what that fat guy says

Spartacus4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

What difference does it make if the guy is a little overweight. He's a human being and has the right to freedom of speech, even though his opinions might be a bit biased towards PCs.

ShiftyLookingCow4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

while I am myself a little fat, I remember seeing a very funny gif animation of him eating a piece of chicken used as a spray in CS Source

[edit] Gabe Newell not only has the right to speak but he is also an authority in the industry(maybe not to fanboys)

Gizmo_Logix4076d ago

Gabe Newell = Anti-Console; PC Whore!

JsonHenry4076d ago

Lol, all these console only guys intimidated by PC gaming are bad mouthing one of the BEST in the business.

However, when Half Life 2 Orange box comes out for the 360 and PS3 guess who will be lining up to play one of the best games ever? The console fanboys above me!

I agree - he is PC biased, but I happen to understand EXACTLY what he means when talking up the PC compared to consoles. If PC gaming was as cheap as console gaming their would be no consoles to speak of.

Until then those of us fortunate enough to be able to afford top of the line PC gaming can smile smugly at console gaming.

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TheExecutive4077d ago

So just because he doesnt understand it its crappy? I have a solution... spend some time with it instead of complaining about it. If the hardware was fully understood there wouldnt be much to improve on would there? he is complaining about sony not asking the developers what they wanted? Isnt the reason the 360 doesnt come with a hard drive because developers said it wasnt needed?

Developers perpetually think in the 'now'. sony wanted to make a console last more than 3-4 years... therefore they had to come up with something that really pushed some envelopes. Yeah its gonna take time to understand the hardware, good things take time and effort in order to show quality. The ps3 is no different.

stonedog4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

Sony is a hardware company and the PS2 was known to be difficult to write for; it appears that this is a continuing with the PS3. Sony's installed base with the PS2 made it imperative to develop for the PS2. Clearly from Sony's previous attitude vis a vis the PS3 they expected their previous dominance to continue and that developers would just have develop for them irrespective of the difficulties. Thus the problem with third party games developers given the small installed base. Thus the massive expenditure on first party games by Sony.

Newell's statements seem to confirm my view.

In Newell's view M$ is all talk about gaming on Vista; this is probably due to the resources that M$ will devote to 360 development vs development for the PC. This is understandable given that the 360 is a closed system owned by them an obviously they want it to suceed.

Given that the 360 is a cut down PC this would make it easier to develop for from a PC developers view point. Also M$ is a software company and would look at things from a software perspective as oposed to a hardware perspective (Sony). This may also explain the "unaceptably high failure rate" of the 360 as well.

Anyways that is my two cents!!!

HaKeRsCanRotINHEL4077d ago (Edited 4077d ago )

He makes a few valid points.

Yeah, I'd like my bubbles back please! ---------->0000000+ not00000-

Nicosia4076d ago

Man i know its immature but i was thinking the same with the catch frase ''...remember that time I dissed consoled?'' FLAShbAck!

Bloodmask4077d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

He is flat out saying that the hardware design isn't well thought out. Why don't you start basing things off of reality instead of your own personal bias.

The cell isn't strictly a gaming processor. It is in many other electronic devices. And none of them are gaming devices. And I can almost guarantee you will never see the cell in any type of high end gaming PC such as an Alienware. Because it was never meant to be. That is why you see it being used in imaging devices for hospital research and Folding, and also being used as a server. Once again not gaming applications.

I for one would trust someone's opinion who has been developing games on cutting edge PC technology for years and years. Which is always on high end of technology than some person who just thinks the PS3 is a good design just bc he likes it such as yourself.....
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"I don't think they spent nearly enough time talking to developers when they were developing the PS3," he said.
And Newell said he believes the issues are hardware, not software ones.

"It's a hardware architectural problem. I don't think they thought through the Cell architecture. The hardware is only as good as the software it enables."

TheExodus4076d ago

Shh, don't tell anyone that the PS3 is just a Blu-ray player. But seriously, all this talk of the cell being a b*tch to work with takes me back to my Jaguar days. Ahh, Tempest 2000.

Uh oh, 360 finally has Space Giraffe ( I was hoping this would be delayed until the Falcons landed. What to do? I gotta go!

beavis4play4076d ago

judging from killzone,metal gear, gran turismo,uncharted,haze,final fantasy,ratchet and clank, and COD4; i'd say that hardware is doing a pretty good job.

stonedog4076d ago

Sony believed that they were at the top of the world and their position was natural and destined to continue. In previous iterations of the Playstation they built it and the developers came; this was doubly so when we talk about the PS2 with the 100 million plus installed base. Thus the developer had to work with what was provided. Ultimately a lot of developers learned to develop great games for that machine as millions of satisfied gamers can attest to.
However now the install base is very small compared to the competition and there is less incentive for developers to put the extra effort and more important the resources into developing for PS3 b/c the return is not presently there. It all comes down to the install base and the the return; sure the developers want the PS3 market of 4 milion or so but they are not going to spend the same resources on that market as they will on the 12 million console market of the 360. It all comes down to the install base. Sony's hubris has hurt them; but hard lessons are often lasting ones; PS4 will be very interesting.

razer4077d ago (Edited 4077d ago )

to be the poster child of PC gaming.. He is part of VALVE of course he is going to downplay and smack talk his competition.. He is just pissed that games sell more on consoles than the PC.. He makes some good points, but I hunch over a PC all day, I'm not doing it for my gaming and just look at all the recent news about Bioshock on the PC with driver issues, widescreen issues, DRM issues.. PC gaming is a complete pain in the ass..

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