Analysts remark on 360's latest achievement after outselling the PS3. One such analyst, Michael Pachter, goes even further to suggest 360's dominance through 07.
this is simple fact, beyond this xmas? if ps3 gets its act together then maybe, but we'll just have to see.
this is good it all going to my plan williamRLBaker stop saying beyond beyond ....
thats what the cows say all the time, BEYOND or whatever the monkier for ps3 is now...play beyond...bs stuff Beyond xmas we have no idea how ps3 will do, right now its not doing good, and 360 and Wii are doing good, Beyond xmas who knows.
Just like VGCHARTS NPD estimates sales data rather than tracking actual sales. who knows MS might have paid NPD to release doctored figs. NPD is not among the top 10 institutions dedicated to tracking sales data However ps3 beats x360 in worldwide sales in JULY by 130 000 units so ps3 is the winner in whatever way u look at it
MS PAID NDP TO DOCTOR THEIR FIGURES! I'M A PS3 FAN AND I HATE YOU! YOU MAKE US ALL LOOK LIKE GODDAMN SONY WORSHIPERS! "OH NOES SONY CAN DO NO EVIL!" You're paranoid. And you're insane. As a PS3 fan, i'll say something bad about Sony to prove my neutrality and objective reasoning. Who's the idiot who said "We shouldn't package a bluetooth headset into the box/release an official headset so people don't have to second guess what works and what doesn't when they go buy a completely unsupported third party bluetooth microphone... You are officially the first PS3 fanboy/MS troll I ignore. I usually laugh at some of the idiotic things you people say but this one just makes me feel embarrassed...
Your a fuc*ing idiot. If the numbers were different and PS3 sold more you wouldn't have claimed a pay off or anything related to how you made this post. Some of you need to grow the fu*k up taking this sh*t personal. Please do not admit if you are a grown man. I can forgive you if you are a kid that hasn't reached puberty
I had this looser on my ignore list, but I just had to press the show button just to see what he had to say, and he did it again...
I am so tired of hearing Patcher, how about turning him into a frog so that he can only croak and eat flies
Of course it's a win for XBOX 360. I think the question is how close can PS3 hang in this year. I for one think GRAW 2 is the same or maybe even better on PS3. Now all they need to do is cut the development time and start releasing simultanous multi platform games that look better on PS3, and I think the momentum might start to change a little bit.
followed by HS and LAIR PS3 just like JULY will win the WORLDWIDE MONTHLY sales of AUGUST. DONT FORGET ps3 has beaten x360 in JULY in terms of worldwide sales by 130 000 units in JAPAN ps3 went on to beat x360 by 67 000 units in EU ps3 went on to beat x360 by 80 000 units. in USA ps3 was beaten by 11000 units in CANADA ps3 has beaten x360 by 2000 units winner in JULY (based on combined GLOBAL sales) ps3 by 130 000 units :)
ok, so if ps3 beat the 360 in july by 130,000 units worldwide,AFTER the ps3 pricecut, and BEFORE the 360 pricecut, do you really have ANY confidence that the ps3 is going to outsell the 360 in august??? think about it logically....seriously......
on the real, I feel sorry for you larry007 or nasim...
hey larry007/nasim/whatever-the-fv ck-other-names-you'll-make-up, why cant you just stop with the bullsh!t all the time and actually have a normal, back and forth conversation on here? you act like this is your soapbox and you're oprah, telling everyone whats up. stop being a douche/oprah/giant douche/troll, or go to one bubble and your comments dont show up. you decide
Why does somebody get paid to predict the future??? I could just as easily ask a fortuneteller. It does suprise me though that 360 outsold the PS3 even with the PS3 having a $100 price cut. The 360 had no big games in July and the PS3 had Sigma I can only imagine what will happen when the 360 price cut starts having it's effect. Not to mention Bioshock and all the other games coming in the next few months. Especially Halo 3.
XBOX 360 was more than doubling PS3 sales before the price drop. So I don't get the big surprise. And now Mircosof cut it's price also.
Maybe analyst should stop pulling ---T out their A$$! Or they should stop going out to eat with SONY & NINTENDO, they may be more objective in the future. I think theyre stupid & dont play games at all. This should let you guys know not to trust these clowns again.
Everything this Patcher guy predicts doesn't come true.. If he is saying this about 360 dominance I'm afraid the PS3 has 07 in the bag! hahaha
hey Pachter dont do us 360 fans any favors, everything you say is cursed. hey where can I get a job predicting the future and even when I'm wrong I just issue another prediction thats like saying "hey I bet the Sun will bring daylight tommorrow"= chances are I'm right unless someone in Antartica is listening.= JOY
Patcher is also the guy who had predicted that PS3 will ultimately win the console war in the end. (Of course, back then no one knew who the heck he was.)
because the one he's been using has been wrong on everything so far.
I think all of the systems sales are going to boost a lot.Every system has awesome games coming out this year. PS3:Heavenly Sword, Lair, Warhawk, R&C. 360:Halo 3,Bioshock. Wii:Mario Galaxy, Metroid,Smashbros, Umbrella chronicles.
Dude. Don't forget for the 360: Mass Effect Ace Combat 6 Naruto PGR4 VF5 C version + arcade and more... But I think the two you mentioned and these ones wil make the 360 sales go up the most compared to the PS3
as don't need to live through another generation potentially dominated by Nintendo. I know Nintendo has said there will be more mature games for the Wii, but I certainly am getting concerned that developers will start spending resources on this systems. I just don't see game styles like Gears or Resistance coming to the Wii. I don't need my hobby being ruined by an onslaught of kid oriented games. I certainly don't want to start spending 1-2 grand a year updating my computer.
@larry007 - And, exactly, how do you know the PS3 is beating 360 by 130,000 units? How do you.. you, know this? Do YOU record all this data? @DrPirate - Hahaha, man both the 360 and PS3 have fan boys that are sooo stupid and immature that make us ALL embarrassed. @larry007(2nd Post) - Dude, how do you know all this? Please, enlighten me. @Bloodmask - Halo 3, by itself, will sell (and im gon' pull a number randomly like Larry007) 5,982,152 units. @bluegoblin - You got Halo 3 and BioShock, but what 'bout Mass Effect?
From dinner with an analyst at Duquesne Capital Mgmt in NYC (yes I know people). A lot of what these do is pure speculation and base their predictions on rumor. They are not as knowledgable about this industry as one may believe and I actually got the analyst to read N4G. If there is speculation, this is the place to find it. Like all of us on this site, they analyze the crap out of data. Although they get more credible sources than us, it turns out they know as much as we know. Pachter has been proven wrong on many occasions although I've agreed with him on many occasions. Who knows, he might he proven wrong again. Take an analyst prediction with a grain of salt. I work with these guys .. They subscribe to EGM!!! I couldn't believe it until I saw the issue with the Lair review on his desk. I told him to burn his copy and rely on either Gameinformer or go to IGN.com
Michael Pachter was asked directly at Bonus Round - Why noone of your predictions didnt prove correct. He answered I'm a finance consultant not a game analysist. But this is not my point Actually I dont believe that MS won this July. I bet that the numbers are fictional. For some of my reasons I have to track the numbers. here in Europe and the USA from some different sources. My point is that M.Pachter is a fukcing liar. I may repeat my words even at trial. According to my data PS3 outsold the 360 with the ratio approx. 25%-30% (in world sales)
you provide no data, let alone proof.
You are kidding, right? You actually think NPD -- an independent agency that charges significant sums for their data gathering and analysis is actually putting out fake numbers? Damn, man, go to the bank, take out a loan, and buy a clue. NPD has been around a long time and they know what they are doing. A)MS wouldn't pay them to report false numbers and B)NPD wouldn't risk it as they would lose their entire client base due to massive distrust. Step on out of the trailer park, cut off that mullet, and get a freakin' clue.
cheap Price & unique controller/gameplay ----> Wii's success If the wii-mote is copied and similar games developed for the Ps2 alone, then the Wii will be finished. If it's not copied by the next gen makers then the Wii will be around for quite awhile.
sorry i forgot naruto lol.
Actually everyoone can prove the numbers from relatively reliable and free for everyone source of information vgchartz.com. I cannot give another sources because they are not free. Anyway lets check it out Week 07/01-07/07 - units sold in the USA 360 - 36,901 PS3 - 22,102 Week 07/08-07/14 - units sold in the USA 360 - 39,396 PS3 - 51,763 Week 07/15-07/21 - units sold in the USA 360 - 32,538 PS3 - 45,101 Week 07/22-07/28 - units sold in the USA 360 - 34,174 PS3 - 43,498 Week(the rest of Jul) 07/29-07/31 - units sold in the USA (caculated from proportion) 360 - 15,002 PS3 - 16,650 -------------------- Total: 360 - 158,011 PS3 - 179,114 -------------------- Diff - 21,103 or 12% Frankly speaking the difference is much bigger - Sorry I have no rights to divulge it =( But vgchartz.com provides at least the relatively correct proportion of sales. This data reflects only the USA sales - the stronghold of the 360. The rest of the world preffers PS3
VG chartz has readily and will readily admit their data is not more accurate than NPD. You really are an ass-clown.
This is a prime example of what denial is please learn from these types of post. Thanks
and we all know that vgchartz are accurate #'s, yet every other company including Micro and Sony believe NPD #'s as the standard, ha ha they are the single biggest source of official sales data= many companies pay big money for their business, vgchartz is OK, sometimes they are actually close in the ballpark but their #'s have been waaaay off in the past= NPD > vgchartz= JOY
What's with you Sony fanboys? What do you actually believe? First... you were actually sure... that the PS3 was sold out everywhere... (at launch)... and it was not. Then on July you though Sony was going to sell at least 1 Million in the US... and you were so sure (Even Sony was) that the NPD numbers were going to be so high... and it was not the case... you are shown proof and the only way to tell if Sony won in July.. and what do you do? now you say.. the numbers are wrong... seriously... you people are sick... you are all on denial.
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