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Valve disses Microsoft, Xbox 360 with $6.79 Left 4 Dead 2

The latest content for Left 4 Dead 2 has launched on the Xbox 360. Called "The Sacrifice," the levels show what happened before "The Passing," and is played from the point of view of the Left 4 Dead survivors. On the Xbox 360, it's also 560 Microsoft points, or $7. On the PC it's free, but Valve didn't think that was enough of a hint about their feelings for Microsoft's DLC policies.

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ingiomar2120d ago TrollingShowReplies(22)
TheObserver2120d ago

Well.... you guys enjoy paying for Facebook, lastfm, P2P, and free stuff like that. Have fun.

antz11042120d ago (Edited 2120d ago )

Way to turn it on the gamers. I forgot its our fault that microsoft is greedy. I'll enjoy playing L4D2, and I don't care that I had to pay for the dlc. It sucks, but I get to play The Sacrifice nonetheless. (which is awesome btw)

Valve is a great company, I'm glad they spoke out and then basically spit at MS. Maybe they'll start listening to their community now.

8-bit2120d ago

I am just waiting for the PS3 version of L4D2 to release with all of the DLC included.

JackBNimble2120d ago (Edited 2120d ago )

That's why MS get's away with this, because people like you will buy it anyway and say you don't care.

Ya , blame it on the gamers when you're this dumb.

antz11042120d ago

@ JackBNimble;

So I'm supposed to go out and get either a good gaming computer or a PS3 b/c I don't agree w/ MS buisness practices? Or I could just shell out $7, bite the bullet, and get to play a great dlc for a few months.

Not all of us have our parents buying us systems junior.

JackBNimble2120d ago

I think you missed the point. If you continue to support the guy who keeps sticking it to you then don't expect it to ever change.

"Not all of us have our parents buying us systems junior".... that made me laugh, I am the "parent".

moparful992120d ago

Lets see I've paid for every bit of my gaming gear since the ps2 including my $600 launch model 60 gig ps3.. So yes you do have a choice if its "YOUR MONEY" Microsoft charges for everything because they know people like you will pay for it pure and simple.. Yet you say you arent going to forgo playing just because microsoft unfairly charges you.. DOnt you see the correlation, they know you will pay so they charge.. I dont know how many times I can say it but you probably wont change your opinion.. Just like xbox live they've made more then enough money to justify the cost but instead of reducing the cost they raise it. Why is that? BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL STILL PAY FOR IT! Have you realized the theme? I hope so for your sake..

Kurt Russell2119d ago

I think I'll give this DLC a miss :(

Karum2119d ago

L4D2 isn't much of a resource hog tbh. The graphics in their games are hardly amazing either, they certainly look good but they aren't by any means jaw dropping.

You can run a lot of Valve games pretty well with an average PC.

My PC is approaching 4 years old and can play it just fine, the speccs of my PC were higher end when I got it brand new back then but ~4 years in the PC world is quite outdated.

Personally though I got L4D2 on PC instead of 360 simply because I prefer the KB&M control scheme for FPS...only console FPS I play are console exclusives like KZ, Gears 2/3, Halo, Resistance etc.

bobrea2119d ago

I'm going to have to disgree with antz here. JackBNimble has it right. Don't expect anything to change if you keep buying Microsoft's overpriced shit. L4D has pretty low system requirements. And there's always that whole saving your money thing...

SephireX2119d ago

@mop
Maybe the dlc is worth more to ant than M$ changing their practices? He's only one person. Many people would have to refuse buying the dlc to make a difference and that won't happen, unless a collective movement is formed somehow. I don't agree with M$'s pricing but we can't boycott everything with an unfair price. If he's happy to pay for the dlc, where's the problem? I just wonder if the PS3 had the same policy, would you even comment?

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YoshiMeetsU2120d ago TrollingShowReplies(4)
skyblue142132119d ago

You took the words right out of my mouth.

moparful992119d ago (Edited 2119d ago )

Lol did you notice how he whent back and edited his comment? Now the entire part I replied to is gone... Ohh well at least he learned from his mistake. Well either that or he didnt like the negative feedback he was getting from everyone..

But back on topic. Yes there are always people that will pay for content like this. It's an intrensic part of the process but if microsoft took heed to what companies like sony are doing or the Lord of the rings online game are doing then maybe their fanbase would explode.. There was an article that stated the lord of the rings game increased its revenue by 2X since adopting a free to play model.. Its worked wonders for valve, sony, and countless others.. Look at facebook those games are free to play but they offer advantages for paying and they are raking in cash because of it...

SkylineR2119d ago

I love how all you PS3 fanboys are saying Valve is dissing the 360 because they're charging gamers for DLC.
If anyone out there has Steam, then you'll know that Valve's service is great in both pricing and for free DLC. That's how Valve works. If it was up to them I'm sure the L4D DLC would be free on Live, but MS possibly had a say about it being free. Who knows, but the fact is that 360 owners get to ACTUALLY play and enjoy both L4D games and the DLC, at what's considered a bargain in comparison to, say, Modern Warfare 2's Map Packs. $5 is hardly breaking the bank. If it is, get a job.

In the end the DLC on 360 is optional. Valve isn't dissing anyone.

360 owners; go back and enjoy playing the game.

PS3 owners; keep twiddling your thumbs and holding your breath for a version on your console.

I'm just glad I have access to Steam, Live and PSN. xD

moparful992119d ago

For the record not a single person has shed negativity upon valve for this.. We can all clearly see that its microsofts rigid and closed xbl platform that is the cause for the pricing.. Microsoft is the ones who force the price premium not valve.. But of course you twisted this to fit some misguided agenda.. You claim to have all 3 but you single out ps3 users.. Am I sensing some bias there?

SkylineR2119d ago

@moparful99

Not at all.
The price is obviously MS's doing and you can't do anything about it.
What I was trying to convey is that the article gets the same anti-360 reactions again that's the norm on this site all due them charging a few bucks.
Who honestly cares?
If people want to buy it and play it, good on them. Least they're enjoying what Valve has to offer as opposed to complaining about it's price. But on N4G, omg, you can't have such an article without the constant fanboyism.

The truth is PS3 doesn't have L4D at all. Period. 360 owners do, and it's their prerogative wether they get it or not, free or otherwise.

And that's another thing. Despite people saying they own both consoles or whatever on this site, it's never good enough if you have anything "anti PS3" to say.

moparful992119d ago

Dont sit here and act like like 360 owners are thrilled about the content costing money.. Valve has always supported their games with free dlc and to for microsoft to force 360 players to pay for what others get free is just stubborn and a slap in the face... Microsoft should allow valve and all other devs determine pricing for their own content but of course microsoft ONLY cares about money not their users....

vhero2119d ago

New we are starting to see why Gabe had a change of heart and has finally starting to support Sony after all this time..

MASTER_RAIDEN2119d ago

lol and thats the exact reason why valve gave up on the 360.
"have fun paying for (insert 9,000,000 things here), 360 users."
finally an MS lapdog is is realizing that it isnt ok to nickle and dime users for everything they can think of. i just kind of wish valve had a decent understanding of the ps3s coding and whatnot to begin with so they could have noticed what else it has to offer.

cant really blame them though. at the time the ps3 just had weird ass coding AND valve was having all their success on pc.
its all good valve! just as long as you make left 4 ps3 happen ;-)

pat_11_52119d ago

I've been a member of Xbox Live for 5 years, since I started subscribing I've always been very satisfied with what I'm getting for my money. $59.99 a year really isn't that huge a deal. Also, all my friends own an Xbox, we all have live so it's the logical choice unless I want to game alone.

Sure it would be great if it was free but you get what you pay for. Live is vastly superior to Sony's PlayStation Network in almost ever feasible way imaginable.

I agree Microsoft is greedy, dlc costs to much and it sucks that companies have to follow m$'s arbitrary price points. But what does that have to do with the price of Xbox Live? I pay for live because it is a quality service and as long as I've had it, save one year over the Christmas holidays when it was terribly laggy, I've been very satisfied with it.

bumnut2119d ago

MS will never change while people such as yourself (no offence intended) are willing to pay for a service that is free on every other platform.

I game on 360 (silver account now though), pc & ps3. I have dead rising 2 for pc and can sign into live and chat with my 360 friends who are paying £40 per year for free!

Thats because pc owners voted with their wallets and said no we are not paying, 360 owners need to do the same.

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R_aVe_N2120d ago

This is one issue me and Valve agree totally on. If a dev wants to give their loyal fans free DLC they should be able to. The 360 is just a console they should not stand in the way between the dev's and their fanbase. Without these fans the 360 would not have made it this far. If they keep pushing I can see Valve no longer supporting the 360.

YoshiMeetsU2120d ago

"If they keep pushing I can see Valve no longer supporting the 360. "

hahahahahahah

Yeah right.

BrianG2120d ago

Okay, I get that they couldn't offer it for free.

But why 540 MS Points?
Why not 400? or even lower?

If anyone has any insight on this please reply with it, it would be appreciated.

TheObserver2120d ago

Probably having to do with covering for bandwidth cost. PSN charges developers for bandwidth usage. Developers fork the bill too on PSN. Still don't understand why they have to CHARGE THE CONSUMER in XBL.

Amazing how developers are willing to pay to host free DLC on PSN.

http://www.1up.com/news/psn...

frostypants2120d ago

Why is it amazing? Sony is spending money to run PSN. Why shouldn't they ask the devs to pay a little?

The nice thing is they leave it up to the devs to determine whether or not to pass the buck to the consumer.

No FanS Land2120d ago

though devs don't pay bills after a free DLc has been out for 60 days.

Pandamobile2120d ago

$7 is the cheapest Microsoft allows for large scale DLC

vhero2119d ago

The thing is they COULD offer it for free just stupid MS policys getting in the way. I mean it's not like they don't make a fortune already off your XBL fees they gotta sting you for DLC fees. Sony let the Devs choose the fee for DLC so why can't MS?? Simple MS doesn't care about gamers only money. They bought this generation nothing more. The sad thing is looking at how quick Sony are catching up and next years lineup.. They are gonna come in third AGAIN.

Chnswdchldrn2120d ago

xbox live: because if it costs money its totally worth it

gamejediben2120d ago

Well it better be worth it because online is free for PC, PS3 and Wii. As for me, that's $60 a year I'd rather spend on games with free online play.

Ravage272120d ago

i've always regarded those who willingly pay for LIVE to be a special bunch of idiots. Wonder if they are aware of the fact that they are the only gamers on this planet dumb enough to pay extra money just to access the online content of games they have ALREADY PAID FOR.

Then again these are the same idiots who senselessly defended the price hike using bullshit like 'it's only $5 per month'. Lol try using that retarded logic to justify all your bills and taxes.