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ISM: Sony Forgot To Send You This PS3 Firmware Update (Cross Game Video Chat)

ISM: The PS3 OS has seemed to be a work in progress since the PS3 launched. Little by little, slight improvements were made to the XMB and PlayStation Network overall. Being a daily user of PS3, I'm very appreciative of gaming, general entertainment features of PS3. Those features are great, however…

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saint_john_paul_ii2124d ago

If i recall, Phil Harrison has been pushing for all of these features on the PS3 from the get go. The Big heads though in JP kept denying it though...

M4ndat0ry_1nstall2124d ago

Back then Sonys main focus was Bluray. Now that Bluray has beaten out it's only competition (HDDVD) the only issue now is probably RAM, software and possible a patent.

Motorola2124d ago

Software? Do you live in the same world as us or not? Cheap troll attack smh

n4gno2124d ago

Ram : equal amount and faster than 360, software : more and better than 360, but ok fanboy, more ram would be even better.

Scary692124d ago

I have a feeling that Sony might add cross game chat but only if you are a PSN Plus member. Which would suck but to be honest I don't care much for cross game chat but to each their own.

rwarner1742124d ago

n4gno,

Its not about the amount or speed of RAM. Its about the amount of reserved RAM during game play. The OS cannot tough ram reserved for gameplay or certian software would crash. They need to reduce XMB's footprint or patch existing games. Both very difficult solutions.

Dee_912124d ago

probably saving it for ps4 ..

Heartnet2123d ago

The ps3 has about 30 mb less ram than the Xbox 360 thats why 1 of the reasons multiplatform games look worse on the ps3.. Although they both have 512mb Ps3's OS takes up 30 mb more than the Xbox :)

Syronicus2123d ago

"@N4gno
The ps3 has about 30 mb less ram than the Xbox 360 thats why 1 of the reasons multiplatform games look worse on the ps3.. Although they both have 512mb Ps3's OS takes up 30 mb more than the Xbox :)"

So you say it has less ram than the xbox but then show it does not then make an excuse that it uses 30 mb for the XMB that is not in use during game play? You're such an inigma. Oh, and third party games not looking as good on the ps3 is not a ram issue, it's a lazy dev issue.

A Cupcake for Gabe2123d ago

They had a big artical on this. JP cares first about JP gamers. And JP gamers aren't really into Onine gaming, they also aren't big into the Social Networking as US/EU. So they dont really care about that. Sony is coming to the realisation that this is important, and so is Nintendo. Hence all the features that continue to get added. But the one thing Sony truly has over MS, is the quality of exclusives. They focus on the games more than the replay/mulitplayer need that America/Euro have imbeded into their minds that is a neccessity. But we have seen such an improvement in the last year with Sony. I am so excited to see what comes before Christmas 2011.

ALSO: So when is the actually date for the Netflix App on PS3. It's this month, but when???

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MrAwesome2124d ago

The only reason i want cross game chat is so people would stop complainig about it it's always a nice choice to have it but i probably won't use it.

Raoh2124d ago

agreed.. cross game chat is overratted and only hot topic because the ps3 doesnt have it.. unless i'm talking to people in my team i dont see the need to speak too much outside of the game.. as for text chatting, i'm doing it in ffxiv now and have been in online games for years.. not that big of a deal..

but i too hope it comes to every platform new and old so this can be a dead topic..

shoddy2124d ago

I would pay for psn+ for this.

karl2124d ago

i just want it so MS cant charge for live anymore without looking like some cheap greedy bastard

vickers5002124d ago

No, Raoh, no it's not. People WILL actually use it, and the people asking for it don't give two sh*ts about using it as a talking point in fanboy wars.

It seems I must resort to copying and pasting past comments because some people still don't understand why a LOT of users want this. Here is my past comment:-------

Why are people still asking why users want this?

I'll post a link to some of my previous comments on why having the feature is extremely beneficial:
http://n4g.com/news/604147/...
http://n4g.com/news/604147/...
http://n4g.com/news/604147/...

Please actually read the reasons this time on why people want it, so this question can stop being asked, and so comments against X-game chat can stop being posted (there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't have it, and would only be beneficial).

And don't just read my comments, read others as well. Having a more social experience online where it's all connected and you don't have to switch to a phone, is a much better experience. Plus it makes setting up games much much easier.

f7897902124d ago

If you want cross game chat it's called Skype. The sound quality is so much better and friends can actually understand you at a normal voice volume.

ExplosionSauce2124d ago (Edited 2124d ago )

To talk about gaming and industry news?

Honestly, I've only used it 2 or 3 times. It's a nice option, but if I need to talk to my friends, we'd talk on the phone. And if we talk while playing a game, it'll usually be the same game.
Love co-op chat!

I can't stand playing a game while talking to someone about a completely different subject. That's why I stop the conversation to keep playing, whether it's on the phone or cross game chat.
This is just me though.

@ shoddy
Video xchat? Now why in the world would I want to do that while playing a game?

moparful992124d ago

People that claim they "want" cross game chat only think they do.. They have this romantic idea about it in their heads but honestly when I'm at my buddies house and we are playing castlevainia harmony of despair and one of his buddies pops up and wants to party chat. Needless to say not alot of words are exchanged during this time and usually someone ends up leaving.. XGame chat is just a bullet point in the argument that people try to make against the ps3.. I could care less if the ps3 gets it seeing as I'm usually too busy playing my games to care... Come gran turismo 5 alot of things in my life will be neglected and that includes friends....

hesido2124d ago

What people miss is the fact that cross game chat doesn't need to have people necessarily playing different games. We lose connection in the game if the game kicks us, or if we want to leave the server for some reason.. We lose that voice connection as soon as we depart from a game. I'd like to continue speaking to my friends and my brother regardless of whether I'm playing a match or between matches doing other stuff within the same game. Cross game chat is what is needed to provide that.

playboi282123d ago

They are already greedy bastards. Cross game chat is free on the Xbox 360 with silver accounts.

mittwaffen2123d ago

Assuming you have no friends online, its very very useful to get your buddies together while their off playing their own game.

You will all love it.

mastiffchild2123d ago

No, we, they or whoever won't ALL love OR use it. Like on Live some would use it regularly and like it, the majority would use it now and then and a good portion either wouldn't use it at all or, like me, find it just slight bad manners.

It's a funny one as usually I'd say that for people to have the choice of something(even something I find a pain and a bit rude)is always a good thing but the thing is XGC affects people whpo aren't even using it or never wanted to as well as those who love it. Sure, some people can use it and talk to whoever about whatever without losing any focus on their game but most people can't do that and I found a few TF2 games on 360 killed when a portion of either team were yattering away to mates playing God knows what elsewhere-people often can't do both in my experience.

My personal issue with it is that I'd like to give whoever I'm gaming with or talking to my full attention-to me it's just courteous-and, fair enough, I may be a fuddy-duddy over this kind of thing but is five minutes really too long to wait to chat/invite/set up another game?

Look, if I'm in a tiny minority then fine, I'll swallow it but please don't assume everyone wants or would use it because some of us actually plain dislike the feature and always have. It's the main reason I stopped playing TF2 on 360 tbh and, as a result, the main reason I no longer have a Gold sub.

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WildArmed2124d ago

lol
If you keep digging, u'll get something to complain about.

Honestly VIDEO CHATTING is the last thing i want to do while playing a game.

Not to mention how horrible quality you get out of a PSeye if the sun isn't out.
(I've had a PSeye since 08 march).

But on a more serious note..
Where's my trophy room (HOME)? lol

REalistically looking I dont think i'd be readjusting the camera so much anyway.
Unless I'm playing a Move title, then i'd be funny to do video chat.

But again, it's unrealistic because most people's internet can barely handle online gaming.. let alone online gaming + video chatting.

There was a very good reason why Phil Harrison got alot of hate.
"Dec '07 Home will be launched"
Liar D:

ADMIRALcoltgahr2124d ago

VIDEO CHATTING is the only way sony can bypass ms xchat patent. if sony can find a way around ps3 os and deliver it it would a huge 1up on the competition

morganfell2124d ago

What do you expect? Ironstarmovement, dualshockers, care to name a few more that are dragging things down?

BISHOP-BRASIL2124d ago

I totally agree. I would never use voice xchat, the only thing I want to hear when playing online is my team mates. The text xchat is more than enough to warn your team mates of something when you die, people talking to me while I'm trying to play would only come in the way.

When I'm playing Offline I usually like to follow the story, not to chat... I annoys me enough when someone drop by my gaming room and won't stop talking.

When I'm on PS3 and not playing, needing to have a word with my friend, I can just use the voice/video chat PS3 already have.

I understand some people would really appreaciate it, other are just complaing out of competitive behaviour, but I don't care about it. I'm not aggainst it, more options can't be a bad thing, but I really don't see the need to have this.

Brklynty12124d ago

i want my XMB looking like that XD

FACTUAL evidence2124d ago

Sony has custom avatars too....but now everyone is either a street fighter, or a fuckin sack boy...-.- Sony gimme my dam features for I falcon punch the shit outta ya....

Makidian2124d ago

I have a pretty decent variety of avatars in my friends list but there are a lot of SF and Sackboys. They keep adding them but not at a quick enough pace really.

moparful992124d ago

Still got my launch kratos avatar and loving it:) Ohh and come november 11th when my ghost of sparta psp bundle arrives I get the exclusive avatar and dynamic theme!

avengers19782124d ago

STill don't care about cross game chat.
I just want to play the damn games.
I have a phone, I have internet, if I want to communicate with people then I can.
Cross game chat will add nothing for me, but I want them to bring just to shut everyone up.

vhero2124d ago

This article is wrote by somebody who clearly loves his 360 more I mean he's goes on about he is excited about his season 360 updates but misses out ps3 updates? I smell a problem with that.. Cross gaming aside here (which real ps3 gamers don't really want only 360 fanboys hold against ps3 gamers).

PS3 updates since launch have been better as they have started with less. Yes thats right we all know 360 had a better online service when launched and we all agree ps3 been catching up so therefore logic dictates ps3 updates have been better yet this author says the opposite thus - 360 fan (not saying he's a fanboy though).

JayD-1K2123d ago

XBLG wasn't much better than PSN when it launched. it also had consistent updates bugs in it's firmware.

PSN has a good foundation and if Phil was still here...i truly believe that, we would be further ahead than we are now. HOME if used, could provide some of things we want like a Party system. i've launched many a game with friends from HOME.

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KratosGirI2124d ago

They should really bring this idea back to life!

TheLastGuardian2124d ago

I hope it's not PS+ only or I might have to sucscribe.

NBT912123d ago

Why people are saying they would get PS+ for Xgame chat i'll never know. You must be real pushovers in reality, because why would you pay for something that we were led to believe would be free (and is wayyyyyy overdue to boot)?

playboi282123d ago

They already announced that it would be free.

FanOfGaming2124d ago

That would have been epic but doesn't matter now -_-

enkeixpress2124d ago (Edited 2124d ago )

All I would like is for Sony to revamp & overhaul the PS3's internet browser.

Also, revamp & overhaul the XMB aswell.. It needs to be changed up a little like how Microsoft is doing with their new dashboard coming on November 4th for the 360.

A little change is necessary & convenient once in a while..

GiantJedi2124d ago

And faster, everytime I'm playing a game and I go to check a mesage the XMB takes forever to load.

punisher992124d ago

Really? Maybe you've been mistreating you PS3 or something because my xmb loads in 2 to 3 secs everytime.

ZombieAutopsy2124d ago

I think it all depends on the game your playing and what you are doing in said game, I notice with some games the XMB loads right up almost instantly and with others it'll take around 5-10 seconds to load everything up.

CantHaveOpinionsHere2124d ago

I wish the xmb wouldn't drag so much. And no I don't mistreat my ps3. Fanboys here are annoying. If you say the ps3 isn't perfect and could be better then they'll come up with some crap like assuming you don't take care of your ps3 as if they've been to your house or know you. Ps3 is my favorite console but damn i m not a fanatic and can admit there's things that could be better

ChozenWoan2124d ago

If you want to change up the look of the xmb then just download a theme. There are thousands of them and if you can't find what you want you can actually make your own.

Functionality wise, the xmb is spot on, although the in game one could be striped down to increase load times by a sec. Still, it's more or less perfect.

As for the browser, yes it needs a good overhaul. Reduce the windows down to just two as that should greatly increase stability. Maybe add or increase the HDD cache to make up for the lack of ram. And for the love of all things video, plz update the flash/shockwave drivers more regularly.

mastiffchild2123d ago

I liked the original "blades" on the 360(anything rather than the dashboard and those wanky avatars-I never wanted one so why make me make one and have to see it every time I turn on my console? Why no choice?)better than NXE and don't much like the upcoming one. Also, I don't want Sony to alter the XMB-it works, it isn't gaudy and that's fine.

Ri0tSquad2124d ago

They had a lot of community features all planned from the get-go, but I'm guessing it was scrapped when they lowered the amount of RAM PS3 would have to lower the price. I think that's also why in-game XMB took so long to implement, even though it was there in early previews of the PS3 in 2006.

punisher992124d ago

People keep talking about RAM. But its already been proven that the PS3 has the same amount of RAM that the 360 does. There was an article awhile back explaining the differences in the PS3's RAM vs. the 360's.

Blaze9292124d ago

So what's your point? Who's talking about the 360 here? Because something has the same amount of RAM as another doesn't mean it'll Be able to pull off the same features. It all depends on the system and the OS. In the PS3's case, it can't do a lot of things (pure speculation btw) we want it to due to the way it uses the ram is has availible. I mean ffs, you can't even keep music playing without having to stop it to do something else from the xmb. Either it's the ram or Sony just sucks as software :-/

/kanyeshrug

FAGOL2124d ago

don't post false info. 360 has 512mb ram the ps3 has 256mb ram. Sony chose to use xdr ram which is faster but too expensive.

GarandShooter2124d ago

@FAGOL

The PS3 has:

* 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
* 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

256+256=512. It has the same amount of RAM as the 360.

Nemo882124d ago

Fagol, your info isnt that correct either.. ps3 and 360 both have total 512 ram for graphics (in fact 360 has 10mb EDRAM extra as well) however on ps3 256MB is dedicated ram and as such only for graphics. This 256 is also expensive ram (relatively) that runs faster than the standard RAM available to the OS. Think a pc with discrete graphics.

Whereas 360 512mb RAM is more flexible, available to both systems and graphics and can be swapped freely. This is more like an integrated graphics setup on pc.

FAGOL2124d ago

@GarandShooter

I just looked it up again on about.com. You are right.

Dark_king2124d ago

Actually I think he means before they lowered the specs.You remember 2 HDMI outputs 2 cells and 1 or 2 gigs of ram.

nickjkl2120d ago

remember when the cell processor helped with graphics processing i do

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xAlmostPro2124d ago

i dont think using xgame chat actually affects RAM :/ and if it does not by much at all.. ps3 & 360 have the same ram.. only the ps3 has more cores to dump some processes onto

N4g_null2123d ago

The CPU does not have access to the rsx ram directly. So it doesn't have as much ram. There is a huge bottle neck in the ps3. That is the main reason for many of the ps3s problem.

nickjkl2120d ago (Edited 2120d ago )

i wouldn't call it a bottle neck since you're supposed to offload gpu tasks onto the cpu so that the rsx can process the left over tasks faster than if it had done it all in the first place cutting down rendering time

meaning you can either aim for a higher resolution 60 fps or just add more effects and stay at 30 fps