Microsoft has claimed that it removed a processor from Kinect because there was "no need" to have it in the peripheral.
They dropped it because of the chances of getting RROD and the parts to make that processesor would probably spike kinect's price which is already high. rip
This from the company that said their console didn't need HDMI, built in wi-fi or a HDD...
Sony didn't need rumble oh wait.. then we had to buy another controller cause rumble was needed. Edit: You're right.. they did add HDMI, wifi.. then again.. Sony does the opposite by removing card readers, bc, otheros, ...
Good thing we aren't talking about Sony, huh? And no, you didn't have to buy a new controller. They work just fine.
Right.. and you have to buy Kinect? My 360 works fine without it. Yet all you see are PS3 fans on Kinect articles.. like they're really considering buying a Kinect? Btw, I didn't have to buy Move, but I did and you really do need 2 controllers to enjoy Gladiator, volleyball, archery... and the drumroll please... cost me $163. What..that much??
You don't have to buy the new - more expensive - "transforming" 360 controller, but you likely will. It also wont have - though yes, Sony were idiots not to settle like MS and Nintendo did - a patent lawsuit connected to it. Edit: Point is Jolly1, you and others are still going to buy even though you already have charge kits.
Do you mean the same price? It comes with a play and charge kit for the limited edition grayscale controllers.
Sony never said they didn't need rumble. If this was the case, then the PS1 and PS2 controllers would have never had it either.
punisher99, here you go: http://www.1up.com/news/son... The reason Sony didn't incorporate rumble into SIXAXIS wasn't related to a lawsuit over patent rights, but because it was a "last generation feature," according to Sony's president of worldwide studios Phil Harrison. Speaking to GameDaily BIZ, the outspoken exec. dashed hopes of the feature making a comeback later in PlayStation 3's life: "I believe that the Sixaxis controller offers game designers and developers far more opportunity for future innovation than rumble ever did. Now, rumble I think was the last generation feature; it's not the next-generation feature. I think motion sensitivity is. And we don't see the need to do that. Having said that, there will be specific game function controllers, potentially like steering wheels that do include vibration or feedback function -- not from us but from third parties."
rumble isnt needed but its a nice feature to have
All that stuff you mentioned isn't actually needed. They are great "extras", but they aren't needed. Just like rumble isn't "needed" to play a game, it is just a nice extra.
This again? I thought we dealt with this nearly a year ago.
C'mon ReBurn. You know better that that!
they just removed it to save money....
Ps3 is fucking cheap. They remove bc to save money on the ps3. And also instead of making alot of games for the move, they simply update older games to work with move. Only blind fanboys want to play those games with move instead of a regular controller
You wanna talk about cheapness. How about releasing a console in this day and age that has a tray loading disc drive, that scratches your disc to hell if you move your console while its in it. What is this 1998?? Even the PSone could be moved without scratching the disc and that console came out in 1995. Or releasing a console with no HDD at all even though there are games out there that either require an HDD or require extra space. This generation Microsoft has completely redefined the word "cheap".
What kind of bozo would move his console with a disc inside and why? Just doesn't make any sense for someone to move his console around all the time with a disc inside especially being wireless. I don't think your being honest.
I guess you haven't played too many Xbox and PS2 games on a big Hd TV because you'd know that they look terrible - worse than on a SD tv. I love the HD remakes, I wish MS would make Fable and Halo HD remakes with achievements for 30 bucks, it would be amazing!
speaking of fanboys i think its obvious which kind of fanboy you are. so its bad to patch older games with the OPTION of using a motion controller. lol even at launch the number of move only games outnumber the past games that have received patches.
correction, they did it to save you money.
Yes but you get what you pay for. With on board processing they could have used a higher resolution, higher frame rate camera which would have provided more accurate control with lower latency with no impact on the game performance. If the processing were handled in the Kinect itself it would have resulted in huge reduction in the amount of data that the XBox needed to process in order to work with Kinect. It would have been a better solution, but it might have been priced out of the market.
The reason the processor was removed was because it increased the lag slightly. It was eithier keep it and have graphics as good as the 360 can do or no processor and slightly less great graphics. Kinect isnt aimed at the graphics fanatic. Its for the casuals. Google or Bing it...
An additional processor made lag worse??? Source please b/c that sounds ridiculous.
They should of waited and release it as a next gen system.
don't you guys remember anything http://www.develop-online.n... "PrimeSense today confirmed that its 3D-sensing technology will remain in Project Natal." There were lot's of articles stating that the decision to remove the chip had not only been cancelled but that the chip been updated.
Well they don't need to know the truth as long as they keep telling themselves misinformation and they're less rabid I'm ok with the PS3 fanboys trolling low key if they believe false info so they can comfort themselves. The truth won't matter much anyways they're going after Kinect because Kinect's launch is near and because of MOVE'S poor performance at retail. There were plenty of articles on N4G stating what you posted The PS3 fans ignored the stories not clicking on them so they didn't heat up the story temp so the articles would not make the front page. They're Cherry picking articles creating a fictional reality for their anti Kinect smear campaign. I swear PS3 fans are so emotionally caught up in the war with last place fanboy mentality, when the sense 360 positive news that negates their lies they will copy&paste then google it to read the source at the same time finding damage control stories in response. PS3/SDF certainly have many articles to choose from that come from media refusing to cover the truth about this matter in relation to Kinect and its hardware.
Boy I'll tell you some people can be so dense it's unbelievable! Question, what is the article about? Downgrade to kinects right? Yes, and the removal of said chip, right. And who are commenting on the removal of said chip? Microsoft themselves! So unless they dont know what's in their own tech, some people need to jest be quiet.
"MOVE'S poor performance at retail" Thats news to me because I know a lot of people are having trouble even finding a ps move simply because they are selling pretty steadily. Heck, they are back ordered on gamestop.com right now as we speak. Maybe you should stop playing the sales figures and putting down a certain product over sales figures that you dont even know anything about, and actually starting judging the product for what it actually is. Everyday I see nothing but positive reviews on move, and everyday I keep reading negative flaws on Kinect. But I guess since you are a 360 fanboy, you go by that mentality that (as long as it outsells, then its automatically better). What a shocker.
That article says two chips were dropped to one. The camera chip has to stay in Kincet but the rest was dropped and is being handled by the 360. I don't see anything in that old article that proves what you're saying.
good find.... first article I read about them using 1 chip vs 2, than why do they need the 360 processor and stated it will use % of it
There was no need to charge over $200 for Kinect, when $150 is already too high. Also, there was no need for one of the 360 cores, when playing casual games. I think that pretty much sums it up.
simple but well said!
MS would never lie to gamers..... They removed it do to cost... they are gonna use software and 360 processor mistake... hardware is always better than software emulation, but with the games we have seen so far, who frigging cares. Its gonna take the next xbox + faster camera to do what we all want... using less points means more extrapolation between points = processing power
Well kinect is for the casual gamers and its look interesting but still I choose move over kinect I had enought of Microsoft and the xbox 360, xbox live is a good feature on the wrong machine
"What kind of bozo would move his console with a disc inside and why? Just doesn't make any sense for someone to move his console around all the time with a disc inside especially being wireless. I don't think your being honest." I'm 30 years old now. Back when I was a kid I owned an NES and a Sega Genesis, I had friends that had Snes and TurboGrafx-16 consoles. We used to bring each other's consoles to our houses all the time and most of the time someone was already playing a game, so in order to make room to connect the extra console to the TV, the home console had to be moved. Now who wants to quit their game and shut off their console just because you gotta make room for another one? Even in this day and age I have buddies that have consoles that I dont own and we play at each other's houses. So its just a matter of simple convenience being able to move your console while a game is playing. So with the xbox 360 its always an issue.
... Why not just have the processor in there anyway? That way.. More of the Xbox processor's resources is freed up.. resulting in better looking games & whatnot. -.-
funny, just a short few years ago, there was no need for motion controls, force feedback was better apparently. then they saw how much money nintendo were making and then suddenly they loved motion controls.
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