Let’s see how nicely the press play with this one. Square Enix have been distributing review copies of Final Fantasy XIV Online over the past few days. But if things go to plan for them, we won’t be seeing any reviews emerging for a while yet.
"...so the inevitable shite reviews don't make us lose sales."
Nobody reviews MMOs for the simple reason that they are constant works in progress. They are only going to review FFXIV because it's a Final Fantasy game. They only ask that reviews be held a few weeks to deal with all the same issues that any other MMO has to deal with in it's first few weeks. The most players logged in at once that the game is likely ever to see in it's operation. Though I have to say, it's been the smoothest MMO launch I've ever witnessed. I think they should be proud of what they've accomplished.
Nobody reviews MMOs? What are you smoking? http://www.metacritic.com/g... http://www.metacritic.com/g... http://www.metacritic.com/g... http://www.metacritic.com/g... http://www.metacritic.com/g...
Final Fantasy XIV “Nothing But Copy-Paste" (They copy/paste all terrain like a stamp set) http://www.sankakucomplex.c... Still dont believe me? Look at these zone maps.. http://www.sankakucomplex.c... Even a video of the zones and how boringly repetitive they made them.. http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... Look how exciting it is run/explore... /s http://www.youtube.com/watc... Yeah, amazing game right there; Snore fest. Sorry to anyone who wasted 60 bucks+Monthly fees to come.
whatever we may think of the game , it would only be fair for reviewers to not gang up the title right from release ... After all they usually dont review mmo games right at launch for obvious reasons . Hell las time i remember one getting such review , Age of Conan , it was a catastrophe . They only played the beginner's area , wich was smooth and polished , and didnt truly tried the real meat of the game , wich was crappy and buggy . Their review only misled countless people later furious about the game
i dunno ..3 week seems like fair seeing that FF14 world is huge and you can't judge it without dive into it for quite sometime .i don't see why ff14 should be judged as a game when you need time to enjoy it
@tdrules: or more like ...so reviewers actually give themselves enough time to actually experience the game, and the game itself enough time to get past the at-launch idiosyncrasies that EVERY MMO has. Any writer reviewing a MMORPG game right away simply holds no credibility, and should be labeled as such by his readers. MMORPGs are hard to review correctly even after several tens of hours of gameplay simply because of how expansive and long-time-spanning they are. Also, it's obvious that they're going to have some server/lag/bug problems right after launch, and an immediate review is going to be faked by those. Personally, despite my extensive experience in alpha/beta, I was already planning to wait at the very least a couple weeks before reviewing the game. Why? Because I want to give my readers something more solid to read about that some passing impression based on a few scrawny hours of gameplay, wishful thinking, educated guesses and hearsay (like some reviewers are already doing, see BFF report for instance, that review is a trainwreck for his own credibility). Remember the trainwreck of 9+ reviews given to Age of Conan right after launch, based on the first few levels (that were amazing, mind you, but followed by a crapton of half baked boredom). gaming journalist should have learned a few lessons from those.
I kinda agree as the game doesn't get good until you get out of the "Kiddie Training section". MMORPG require more than twenty minutes of game play B4 writing a review.
on a MMO based within 1 week of launch should be tossed out the window because thats not even a fraction of the time that is required to actually make a opinion on whether the game is solid. Square said 3-4 weeks I would say like 1-2 months.
the biggest problem for SE is not the MMO aspect is that western reviews are going to try to compare it to WoW. This game isn't wow, its designed with the story in mind, its designed to play with friends and actually challenge you and not just throw epics at you. Honestly its come a long way since even the open beta, its great to play, the lag is barely present even in populated areas, crafting is fun, although it can just piss you off sometimes, but its quite rewarding. the game is great, i just hope people arn't expecting a WoW2.0 because its not even similar to WoW.
maybe three weeks is a bit much...for some that may be too little but reviews on release on a MMO seems stupid. It really is the community that helps or hinders.
I liked FF11 but not at first because it was rather different than what i was used to so i defintly understand where square are coming from, met some good people who im still freinds on xbl, the level grind is what stoped me that was to time demanding, but im defo going to try out FF14 when it arrives on PS3 next year
Good, because the full game still feels like the Beta, seem they Pushed this game out a bit early
mmo should wait like a year actually
I bought the CE and so far I have to say that this is probably the worst MMO I have ever played. Took me around 4 hrs trying to register and patch before I could even play it. Game is really unoptimized and even a mid range PC can hardly play it on the lowest settings. Gameplay wise feels "dumbed" down compared to FFXI and pretty laughable compared to older mmo's. Also, next to none tutorials and the horrible menus feel like a total cluster fuck. I tried to like this game but I just couldnt get into it at all. Not to mention the dubious third party billing company they use that charged me $2.50 twice for no reason.
All your problems are because you do not have a good rig... btw it took me all of 30 mins o start playing. The game is COMPLETELY optimized works and runs like a dream. Yes theres not a lot of tutorials but there are 5 MILLION sites for help not to metion thousands playing to ask. i played FF11 for 5 years and its NOT dumbed down in the least. Its just not as much of a grind fest (which i love). Billing is shit but they didnt charge you twice they sent a fee to see if your account has money and was real then they refund it. I have been in closed and open beta now in the real game and this game is awesome. my Fav MMO ever. Sorry to say this but i do not like false info on a great game. I dont reply much but i had to on this one.
Well I respect that you can like the game.. but that was my personal experience with the game and I wasnt as impressed with the things I had seen. I'll stand by my comment on the overall dumbed down MMO feel of the game. Nothing in it is complexed at all and feels targetted at console/casual gamers. I can see how it could be fun for casuals.. but If you want a complexed MMO.. you WILL be dissapointed like me.
I can understand you not liking it but you were saying it did not run great... that was false. You are saying it was dumbed down compared to ff11 and that is fasle. Actually ff11 is dumbed down compared to ff14 because all you had to worry about was lvling a main job and a sub. In this game you can use ALL the abilites from EACH job on one job so now you can have 2 people with the same job with COMPLETELY different abilites! ff11 every warrior job was the same. Do not let me get into the crafting. I'm not saying you can not like the game. i know people who says its not for them but again all im saying it what you said was false. You actually have to play the game for more then 10 mins to understand it tho.... sorry to say.
In FF11, you're pretty much dependent on a group to level. Also skilling up your crafting in 14 can raise your physical level too. Just leveling a main and a sub is one thing, but then you have to wait until level 30 to get another job and most likely if you can't find a high level guy to walk you through it, you'll never unlock another job. In FF14 all you have to do is buy a job's other weapon and you can change jobs on the fly just by equipping it. You want fire, blizzard, water, thunder, etc etc...? Just buy a conjurer cane for like 1,500 and equip it...bam you have all of those spells. It's also harder to find gear for anything and practically have to make everything yourself since there's no AH and you have to browse everyone until you get lucky and find someone that can make the gear. You can teleport to any checkpoint you want as long as you've been there before in 14 and have the Anima for it while in 11 you have to do supply runs or get teleport crystals AND level your mages in order to even teleport...in no way is FF11 the dumbed down version, but the fighting sure is fun.
FF11 is a time sink thats all. In ff14 you do get much more short cuts (which i do not call dumbed down i call it 2010) But i do see your point. ff11 MAKES you spent more time doing shit you do not want to do.. if thats what you call "dumbed down" then your right. FF14 doesnt make you do millions of quest just to go to another town but that does not make it dumbed down. the crafting system is much more of a mini game that you have to study and pay attention to and its more complexed. Just because you have to buy a weapon to change jobs again doesnt make the job system "dumbed down" its just easier to jump in. However if you get further into it is MORE complexed then ff11 because you can do whatever you want. if i want my war to have magic i can. if i want my blm to have attack i can. you can NOT do that in ff11 which means ff14 has more options and its not dumbed down.
FFXIV is a very good game if your a old fart like me. If you came from the UO or EQ generation, you will like the game. However if your first MMO was the EQ2 or Wow generation (or your spoiled now), more than likely you will not like it. The only problem currently hurting FFXIV in my opinion is the damn lag. Other than that, it is a very good game and not easy. A MAJOR learning curve, kinds like Eve learning curve. But a MMO should be played for 1-2 weeks before a review.
hey, did they ever fix the controls so that camera movement was relocated to the arrow keys?
No, not to my knowledge. I use the controller to run and select the mobs. Then press the number keys for actions. I only use the mouse for menu items for now. But once the game started I used the keyboard and mouse and everything worked as well as it did in my other games.
after trying the closed beta i had to cancel my CE pre-order. the interface was just to clunky and unoptimized for my liking. don't get me wrong i played FFXI for almost 4 years but after that beta i'm leaning towards cata now... maybe in a years time i might check it out but for now its not going to happen.... and that's the thing with new MMO's, on one hand you want to be the first to see the game but the downside is bugs and problems that haven't been fixed yet.
One thing for sure is that the Video Game market is very over saturated with a bunch of mediocre MMORPG and FPS. Not to mention the new releases of RTS on the PC every week. How about a 2D side scrolling shooter MMO.
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