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Submitted by Bigpappy 1401d ago | videocast

Gizmo gives you a hands on…err hands OFF exclusive to the upcoming Xbox 360 Kinect!

Gizmo gives you a hands on…err hands OFF xclusive to the upcoming Xbox 360 Kinect! This new technology on the Xbox 360 raises the bar for gaming, it removes the controllers and makes you the controller! No more batteries, cords, or recharging, the Kinect sensor captures your entire body movement and will change how you play games forever! Check out our full review of the Kinect with interviews from people who experienced it for the first time. (Kinect, Xbox 360)

Pedobear Rocks  +   1401d ago
Wow...
sounds like a PR release.

And by the way...removing the controller was done by the PS Eye...maybe not with the same fidelity but this isn't really a 'bar raising' technology imo.
Fishy Fingers  +   1401d ago
Isnt that a contradiction? If it does what the competition does but with, in your words, more fidelity, then it rasied the bar.

Much like Move took inspiration from the Wii and improved upon it, Kinect took inspiration from PSEye and improved upon it.
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Pedobear Rocks  +   1401d ago
No...imo
raising the bar is introducing a new technology...not just incrementally improving on existing.

For instance the Wii did do that with they remote and the MOVE is an incremental improvement...again I would say they are not raising the bar either.
Montoya  +   1401d ago
The Move is much more precise than the Wiimote. I`ll say it again someone is gonna make a Move/PS3 exclusive Fantasy RPG that will be one of the best games ever made. Some thing heavy on the violence w/ Sword,Sheild and Spells, along w/ the 1:1 it would be nothing short of epic. Watch.

edit: BTW, I love this little arguement/debate you guys are having. LOL.
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Fishy Fingers  +   1401d ago
Raising the bar generally means "raising the standard/setting a higher standard".

New technology, sets the bar, the whole point of the saying is you've improved upon, or raised, a current measure, or bar, to a new level.

Edit: Disagrees, perhaps you could inform me of the correct meaning of the term then.

Montoya, that's what the comment sections are for, debate :)
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Raikiri  +   1401d ago
I agree with fishy fingers
Raising the bar means Improving on something thats a fact and that can't be an opinion.

Like Fable 3 is improved upon Fable 2

and Playstation Move Improved upon the Wii
Its not really the same its better

Kinect is improved upon PSeye again its not really the same its better.
Fishy Fingers  +   1401d ago
^
Cheers, but you'll probably suffer the same fate as me, disagrees with no responce, what we should of wrote is...

Kinect is the failz and PSeye rip-off, Move is the awesomez and revolutionary.

Dont remind people that they used to claim motion control sucked before their system of choice announced one and now they're the future, never remark that not a single PS fan prefers Kinect, or 360 fan prefers Move. Funny that.

Take the agrees and run :)
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alphakennybody  +   1401d ago
"Kinect took inspiration from PSEye and improved upon it."
how does running at half the fps that of the PSeye an improvement?
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Pedobear Rocks  +   1401d ago
Hi Fishy
I thought I had responded if you were speaking of me.

I just don't see Kinect OR Move as 'raising the bar'...both are mere evolutions of existing tech and dont bring new or unique gameplay to the consumer. I know we are disagreeing as to what constitutes a 'raised' bar here but I think we can agree that both Kinect and Move are derivative technologies which do nothing to bring new gameplay to us.

Edit added as I'm out of bubbles...response to Fishy below...

Well we agree on that...not picking either up for at least a year to see if 3rd party support is sustained..(shocker but yes I have a PS3 and 360 (2 360s actually)) Cheers.
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Raikiri  +   1401d ago
@alphakennybody
Ask me that when it can keep that FPS rate with a RGB, Infrared and an VGA Camera ow and it also needs to SEE you in 3D with all those camera's

@alphakennybody
''@ pedo
I disagree, move brings us precision to motion gamming that in it self is new while kinect has yet to prove itself.''

thats an improvement,
geez are you really that blind?
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alphakennybody  +   1401d ago
@ pedo
I disagree, move brings us precision to motion gamming that in it self is new while kinect has yet to prove itself.
Fishy Fingers  +   1401d ago
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. Because I see evolution as all but the same as raising the bar.

I also can see (not in current software) how both Move and Kinect will bring new forms of gameplay, through the ability to track in a 3D space. I'm no game developer so I'm not sure how these new gameplay techniques will work or how they'll be used but I'm sure they will come.

I'm not actually interesting in owning either right now, becasue of the poor software line-ups and also similar reasons to what you said, as of now they're not bringing anything really new. But the technology in either allows scope for that to change, so who knows how I'll (or you'll) feel about them in a year or two.

Oh and it's 4.20am, I've been at work for 12 hours and I'm probably just talking s*** :)
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alphakennybody  +   1401d ago
@rai
The move can do about everything that kinect can, yet with less and not even half its price. http://www.youtube.com/watc... I don't see the body flying all over the place like the recent tech demo of kinect.

no I'm not blind,tell me where I can find another motion controller as precise as move then
TronEOL  +   1401d ago
Eh, Sony had a motion controller that tracked a wand since earlier than 2001.

If you look at it logically, Sony seems to be releasing a promising piece of hardware rather than releasing a half-assed version first (look at Wii, then the need for Wii MotionPlus). I'm sure they learned their mistake from PSEye back on PS2.

Xbox360 was in the same boat as Wii except with being the first (sub)HD Console to release. Microsoft didn't invent that direction like most websites, or "journalists", seem to think. It was VERY clear that was the next step for gaming. The Xbox360 was just released first, that's all. And it shows.

Now with motion gaming, Sony put their beast to sleep, and now we have Playstation Move. Which honestly seems to beat out the competitors renditions in how precise it can be. It's always been a fact that gaming NEEDS controllers (Keyboard/Mouse count here), and it will (and should) always be that way. This is why PSEye failed, and Kinect WILL fail.

If anyone sees anything in Kinect, you must honestly be fooling yourself to think it's going anywhere.

PS. I'll always favor gamepads or KB/M for gaming. As most gamers should.
kaveti6616  +   1401d ago
"I just don't see Kinect OR Move as 'raising the bar'...both are mere evolutions of existing tech and dont bring new or unique gameplay to the consumer."

Yeah, that's called "raising the bar." New types of technology creates new "bars."

But improving upon existing tech raises bars.
Triella  +   1401d ago
@Raikiri

"Ask me that when it can keep that FPS rate with a RGB, Infrared and an VGA Camera ow and it also needs to SEE you in 3D with all those camera's
"

You're delusional if you think MS is the first one to use the Z-Cam other compnies have used it to play games and navigate a menu, and all that at 60fps.

Take for example Gesturetek which is licencing the software MS is currently using with Kinect, They've been developping it for ten years but have always done it with a top notch selfmade z-cam which can track at 60fps or higher rate (not an half-assed camera stripped down from it's internal processor and with CMOS only capable of tracking at 30fps, purposedly downgraded by MS for the sole reason to cut corners).

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Pedobear Rocks  +   1401d ago
@alpha
I didn't say it wasn't more precise...I noted they are evalutions of existing tech. I guess I dont see a more precise gameplay as being new and unique (and bar raising) gameplay. Anyway...out of bubbles...sorry if anyone's panties are in a knot.
JokesOnYou  +   1401d ago
well,
It's funny if they show a short trailer to spark interest, their accused of trying to trick the consumer by not showing gameplay...then they show booths with people playing launch games, lots of gameplay and their reactions which leads to the inevitable "meh its a PR release", lol because its impossible for these average everyday folks who I'm not sure but probably aren't n4g members to enjoy kinect. riiight.

I can understand if you any gamer just isn't feeling the whole motion vibe, you hate kinect and move, but anyone who celebrates move like its some sort innovation beyond what wii does, while bashing kinect constantly is just a laughable sonyfanboy that I just can't take seriously for 1 second. Kinect and move launch lineup is filled with casual pick up n play shovelware, but thats doesn't mean that there isn't something there that appeals to other non-traditional gamers, it just looks like kinect might be a little more popular with casuals than move, which may sell 1 or 2 more 360's and that of course is sonyfanboys worst fear= kinect haters.

I'm just hoping somewhere down the line they'll be something kinect offers other than menu navigation that I can get interested in.

JOY
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lowcarb  +   1401d ago
Joy
"I'm just hoping somewhere down the line they'll be something kinect offers other than menu navigation that I can get interested in."

The few games announced at TGS all sound extremely interesting. Soon MS is going to go out on a mission trying to prove the Kinect core experience.
Dread  +   1401d ago
well said joke!
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BrutallyBlunt  +   1401d ago
We need more people like JokesOnYou here
Well said my friend, well said.

I purchased Move and I really like it. Sure the games aren't all that great for it but they will come. Just like the games for Kinect. In fact it may even take longer for Kinect since it's a whole new approach for game creators. Move is an advancement on the Wii and that has been out for almost 4 years now. Developers now must try and re-create body experiences without the need for a controller. That's alien to them right now.

I also read articles on Move too and how lighting can hurt it and I have not had an issue yet, day or night time. The internet is like a cancer, they see something or read something and it spreads like wildfire and gets totally blown out of proportion. What was the first response in this video? He said "it's better than I thought it would be". So what does that tell you?

So now it's up to Microsoft to get more of these demo stations out there for all of us to try, because quite frankly that is how they will have to sell this thing. It needs a hands on (whoops, i mean hands off) experience. Watching videos and trying to determine the lag is not how to go about it. Yes the games so far look very casual, but that will change over time. The XBOX already caters to the more hardcore crowd, Microsoft is interested in expanding that while not neglecting it's current userbase. This is being treated as a whole new launch and catering to the casual gamer will take a whole new approach.
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BattleAxe  +   1401d ago
Gizmo sits down errr...stands up with Kinect
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ozps3  +   1401d ago
Good to see the Micro$oft PR industry in full swing awwww the smell of the green back and the sight of $ sign in the eyes mmmmm. It has been going strong since 2006 when the PS3 released. Remember all the articles ??
wat634  +   1401d ago
Well...
With the amount of ads and publicity kinect is getting, its going to sell, no matter what you guys think.

Besides, Kinect is the future.

@Below - Of course it is, but tomorrow never comes.
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Montoya  +   1401d ago
Tomorrow is the future.
Otheros00  +   1401d ago
If it's the future, I hope it's a extremely short one.
Also the connect4 is better than kinect. reason: the connect4 is the fourth version of kinect. Don't believe me look it up on youtube.
niceguywii60  +   1401d ago
^^
Based on your trolling Natal articles looking at your history I'm guessing you're saying that because it will seal PS3's fate. Several of your last comments are PS3 fanboy troll comments that are desperate and frustrated.

No one cares what you think GTFO doesn't make any sense. Do you think people are stupid? You don't want Kinect yet you must track and troll the articles? LOL you hate Kinect will offer the industry something new causing increased consumer appeal which in the end will hurt Sony greatly.

LMAO You hate Kinect and have no interest in it but you can't resist tracking it giving your worthless opinions lol
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All_4_One  +   1401d ago
"...it will seal PS3's fate."
Quoted.
Roonie  +   1401d ago
It will seal ps3 fate
I lol'ed!!!
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wat634  +   1401d ago
@top comments - Hopefully it will, so playstation will become obsolete this generation.
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jneul  +   1401d ago
you will be crying when you find out kinect is even worse than a wiimote....
meanwhile us lot will be enjoying out super precise move with hardcore and casual games, enjoy you 1 month of MS cash in's
also I tried kinect it may have improved form 2d to 3d, but just about everything the original eyetoy did is far worse on kinect, it's a horrible experience, and the only thing which is better is the graphics as x360 >> ps2.
ps3, super precise move & mind blowing graphics = the future
westy552  +   1401d ago
'Kinect is the future'
Sorry ill just have to put that in the little black book. Oh god can someone pick me off the ground im laughing to hard. ROFL.

How does this wat634 bloke still have bubbles, surely everyone can see he has fallen out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.
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kaveti6616  +   1401d ago
I can tell the reason why you want PS3 to become obsolete is because you're not willing to pay more money to support another console.

There's no shame in being poor, but please stop being a total dick just because you chose the 360 and now can't afford the PS3.

I am also poor, but I managed to get a PS3 as well. Just because you can't afford something doesn't mean you can't appreciate it, and if you do the math, you'll find that owning a 360 is much more costly.
AceofStaves  +   1401d ago
Kinect's not the future for me, since I'm disabled, and I actually prefer gaming tech I can actually use to something that's been hyped like gaming's Second Coming.
Montoya  +   1401d ago
To tell you the truth, none of it really look fun. Even the stupid little mini games.

Children Of Eden is the only game that even looks remotely interesting and not interesting enough to buy MSs overpriced PSeye. Plus, Kinect should be retailing for 59.99 MAX, not $149-$159 or whatever it is.

@edit

I could find you footage of people saying Naughty Bear is the best game ever...Shamwow.
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Bigpappy  +   1401d ago
Well, they made a point of interviewing the players
If you listened to the interviews, you would have realized that it does not have to look fun to be fun. When people play it, they seem to like Kinect enough to want to buy it.
jack_burt0n  +   1401d ago
@pappy did you submit this?
Moonboots  +   1401d ago
"and not interesting enough to buy MSs overpriced PSeye. "

Well, sounds like you made your mind up. Then I guess there is no need to hit every Kinect article and tell everyone how much you hate it?

Or is there??? lol
BrutallyBlunt  +   1401d ago
$60 max, seriously? The PSEye sells for $40 and it's technically terrible by todays standards. I have Move and the image it captures is grainy and it does not rotate, it's stationary. Kinect captures you in 3D and follows a whole bunch of parts of your body. The camera also moves around as you do, which may mean we won't have to constantly calibrate it like Move needs to. How many Move games go into split-screen automatically when another member walks in to play?

Two different products.
BrianG  +   1401d ago
I love how he plays a few mins of volleyball and says "definitely better than Wii and Playstation Move". haha. I dont know, some people have strong opinions I guess.

But it looks like its performing pretty good.
Moonboots  +   1401d ago
They were not able to get hands on with it? Even I've been able to try it and I just stumbled upon it while shopping with my girl.
drummerx2709  +   1401d ago
So how was it then?
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bviperz  +   1401d ago
Man, I for one am sick of all the BS in the media saying how awesome Kinect is when it has shown nothing that 'has never been done before'. Yes, the tech and the potential is there, but never been done before? Move get's knocked because the launch lineup has 'been done before' but Kinect is going to be revolutionary because it's never been done before, all the while the launch line up can be mirrored up to releases on the Wii and the Eye Toy?! WTF is up that?
Strikepackage Bravo  +   1401d ago
No big deal
thats what the media does, they do it for hits. Just look at GT5, they are doing the same thing with that game, "OMG it has head lights and backup lights, and sit down for this, WORKING HORNS! AMAZING!"

Its what the media does because they know these products will be big with a lot of people, they want all those people coming to their sites for news and updates.
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Bigpappy  +   1401d ago
What BS in the media?
These are everyday people who walk by and checked out Kinect with their families. How the heck do you get media bias out of that. Some time it is best to just zip it.

All good reporting for the move is great. All good reporting for Kinect is biased. Fanboyism has taken over your brain bviperz. Seek help asap.
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sickbird  +   1401d ago
everyone just keeps saying its a work out and how tired they are. No thanks.
OSIRUSSS  +   1401d ago
I agree. Kinect is like Wii fit on Steroids
whitesoxfalife  +   1401d ago
since i know 100% everything about kinect i dont need to show proof on what i know but know this i really dont have to comment on it cuz i know what it can do.......... to all the supporters of kinect......hit me up on live WHITESOXFALIFE check my games to all the non supporters at some point in this cycle you will be playing with kinect and its ok cuz we all know that u gonna love it......its an evolution in gaming not an revolution.....
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Mister_G  +   1401d ago
M$ will push Kinect so hard it'll convince people it's worth buying even when it's just an enhanced version of the PS2 / PS3 eye toy camera.
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cliffyboy21  +   1401d ago
not as good as the move
the way i see it is kinect might be fun to some games like fitness games but it's not gonna be used to it's full potential or be as fun becuz it doesn't require a controller or nothing in you hand and thats what makes a difference like playing ping pong or having a light saber dual and thats what makes the move better becuz it's more precise and feels more reel i have the move and sports champions and the controller makes all the difference in the world to me
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wicked  +   1401d ago
you could put soumthing in your hand, it will still work with Kinect and also feel right.
lowcarb  +   1401d ago
wicked
I don't think that's the answer he wanted to hear lol.
Cryptech  +   1401d ago
I agree. After playing ping pong on the Move I was blown away with how accurate the in-game movements were. Changing the angle of the paddle, adding all kinds of spin, hitting it low or high. I would really like to try kinect to see if it can match that. Also, there is no way I would play it with just my hand swatting at the screen. I would love to see if I could actually use a ping pong paddle and get the same type of speed and accuracy as the move controller.
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hanmik  +   1401d ago
What is this "article" doing here..? it´s nothing but a glorified advertisment.. it´s not even a review.. come on..
shadyiswin  +   1401d ago
Notice the gamestop paper on the outside of the booth, the list was full when I checked and like I've said before they're 3 gamestops in my mall (they took over eb games and software ect.). I have mines pre ordered already but I'm hoping microsoft doesn't pull a nintendo with shortages, they're hoping to sell 3 million so I hope they ship 5 million, I can already hear my phone ringing asking did I get and can I come try it out lol. Someone said the wii is more precise which is a lie lol, he claimed to have played it lol, not one person after playing it says the wii is better and most haven't tried moved or they prob would be bashing move but its the wii that takes the beating which is cool, its the only competition lol. I wasn't especting it to be responsive as the wii do that on itself was a plus. Not as responsive as the move but it didn't need to be the games for kinect embrace the split second lag because your body can't move as fast as your thumb pushing a button. I repeat no game is unplayable because of lag, lag is the issue, the kinect getting confused is the issue and if you play properly you have an issue. If games are properly tested then the confusion kinks will be worked up. The 3 I played seemed to be confusion proof, but I'm sure 3rd party releases will be buggy for the 1st few months. Another positive review for kinect, I've never seen a bad video review of kinect from a website actually.
EasilyTheBest  +   1401d ago
Have any of you guys played Kinect...
I have been reading about Kinect for awhile now and two of my friends have played it and I finally got to play it in the UK after hours at a Gamestation store and whatever anyone says. The Lag is definetly sorted. Its really unnoticeable.
Yes there may not be any 1st person shooters but thats not what Kinect is all about. MS already have that covered.
The four games I played were all much much better than I expected, they were great fun and had us all laughing.
Theres much more to the raft game and the sports game than is always shown too.
Since playing Kinect I have preordered it. You get extras on Kinect Adventures when you preorder aswell.
I dont give a crap about the disagrees, I liked it....
mcstorm  +   1401d ago
Glad you liked Kinect when you tried it I know a few beta testers on Xbox live but never played one my self but really looking forward to it.

That video looked like there was no lag and every one looked to be enjoying playing the game.

Good to see some good press on this site for Kinect and it is good to see a video with no lag ect as I think alot of things that have been said and posted about Kinect have been blown up bigger then they were.

Should be a interesting xmas with all 3 consoles having there biggest games out for them and adding move and kinect to the market should be good for all 3 company's sales.

Im glad that MS Nintendo and Sony are not ditching there consoles after 5 years and bring new ones out in stead adding new fetchers to the consoles via hardware and software. But I am really interested to see what 2011 bring for MS and Kinect as they have kept alot quiet because of the image they want to cerate for the 360 and kinect.
dead_eye  +   1401d ago
the video wasn't very good. never really showed the tv and the person jumping around at the same time. well on the dance one they did but the on screen character wasn't doing what the guy playing was doing anyway.

hope game have it set up so i can try it one day
cliffyboy21  +   1401d ago
at wicked
a controller requires button responces and i don't think you just hold something in your hand would give feedback if you have to interact with the controller like you do with the move or wii. and for you to be able to play games like that with kinect you better make sure you have a whole lot of space for where you playing cuz you have to be standing far from the tv
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