Molyneux: Kinect is a bigger 'step forward' than the Wii

Molyneux explains that Kinect is a revolutionary product, so it will take time for developers to wrap their heads around the technology and adjust to it. Even the Wii, he asserted, is still a button-based device at its core, so it's easier to design for than Kinect.

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Nitrowolf22613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

"[With the Wii,] there's still this reliance on using the thumbstick and buttons, so it wasn't as big a step forward as something like Kinect," the British designer said. "With Kinect, there really is nothing in your hand. Think about that. There is no button."

i don't think he means just the wii with that statement, you are only limited to how much you can do with no buttons. Can you imagine playing COD or HALO with Kinect online, Kinect VS Controllers?, i mean with no joystick how will you move? What about shooting? what about the lag difference?
Buttons are needed
I mean you can say who would play a shooter with Kinect, well yeah i mean it could be tough. With buttons/motion controller you get the same thing at a more accurate and easier way.

ingiomar2613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

They would never do a kinect versus controller game that would be stupid...and if you go online with move you would probably get your ass kicked too

so for now Kinect and Move has no chance against the controller especially with shooters

@Otheros00 below

That is the normal(webcam) camera of kinect..remember it has 3 camera's

PS eye is basically a webcam and can't see you in 3D thats why its specs are higher cuz its designed to see you only in 2D or flat(or whatever you want to call it)
The PS eye wouldn't be able to see you in 3D with those specs thats why it needs the move which doesn't see sees the lightbulbs so it can track you and know where you basically are

but kinect does that all on its own and is able to see your full body in 3D at 30FPS which is really good for an affordable 3D camera

hay2613d ago

@Nitrowolf2: As my modestly intellectual friend tried to explain to me how you will run in Kinect:

- "To run you must run in place."
- "And if I want to run backwards?"
- "Then you run in place but backwards!"
Then he demonstrates running "in place" and moving slowly backwards.
- "So if I want to run sideways I have to run in place but to right or left?"
- "Exactly!"

I hold no responsibility for accuracy of his statement.

moparful992613d ago

Umm I beg to differ.. In eye pet for example you can reach forward and make a "scratching" motion with your hand not the wand and the eye pet reacts as though you are scracthcing his fur... Eye pet can also chase your hand, if you quickly move your hand to the other side of the screen he looks confused and he begins searching and when he sees it he tries to pounce on it.. All of this is done without the move wand so dont sit here and tell me that move can't track your bodies movements... Also, as confirmed by polyphony, you can use the ps eye to track your head in gt5 allowing you to look around the cockpit and around turns... Mind retracting your erroneous statement?

rroded2613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

milo stole his time machine n ran away...

dont listen to wut this ms lap dog says guys a few bricks short of a load anyways...

DORMIN2613d ago

Got to remember people...

Whatever Molyneux says, its the opposite of what it means!

Why o why2613d ago

trus me... Him talking it up is like a kiss of death

MrMccormo2613d ago

As if Molyneux is the person we should be listening to when it comes to step forwards in the gaming industry.

rockleex2613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

Towards on rails and "running in place" kind of games.

If you call that "moving forward", then I'd rather take a step back from all the flailing you're going to be doing.

"Even the Wii, he asserted, is still a button-based device at its core..."

So does that mean the Eyetoy was a step forward the from the Wii... FIVE YEARS before the Wii even came out? And TEN YEARS before Microsoft went that route?

bjornbear2613d ago

SERIOUSLY?! even though nintendo PASSED on the tech?

NecrumSlavery2613d ago

The Kinect can't track wrist or finger movements, everything is waving. Simple up and down movements. Nothing that has not been done before. But thanks Peter, since this technology was already on the PS2 years ago, I guess this means the PS2 is a bigger step forward than the Wii too.

ozps32612d ago

Even a gun has buttons and a trigger. Lol at micro soft. What a bunch of [email protected]$

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RememberThe3572613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

Conceptually Kinect is a bigger step forward. But that doesn't seem to hold true when you bring it into reality. The tech behind Kinect isn't far enough along to be precises enough for the kinds of games hardcore gamers tend to play.

But, I think (hope) that will change in the next generation of the hardware. Because right now I have not been impressed by the precision of its input capabilities.

moparful992613d ago

Kinect isnt a step forward at all.. In fact the tech behind kinect was previewed and then turned down by both sony and nintendo seeing as it had serious flaws, which are on full display with kinect... In fact sony based the eye toy on the technology that powers kinect.. But they realized that without tangible buttons and tactile response the experience was "lacking" Microsoft bought out the company, known as 3dv tech, and in the course of the development of kinect bought up a couple of more software companies and the collaboration birthed kinect as we know it.. Microsoft could have dones some special stuff with kinect if they left the on board processing alone but seeing as the price was out of that mass market "sweet spot" they were forced to remove the processor and what we are left with is a casual fun fest... You will not see anything even remotely core oriented come out for the kinect.. I will put money on that statement.. You just can't deliver core experiences without buttons and tactile feedback period....

Why o why2613d ago

If they left that on board processor.....on board

blood for lube springs to mind anyway like moparful said...Its hyped to be a bigger step but its really in actual fact a step backwards. Nin and sony sidesteped the tech for a reason. Sony already tested the water with eyetoy so they knew what the implications and limitations would be.

morganfell2613d ago

I said it before and I will say it again. Putting a small electric motor in a device is asking for trouble. I mean absolutely begging to have something break. Of course maybe MS knows the motor will last just over a year...when the warranty has expired.

RememberThe3572613d ago

I said "conceptually". The ability to interact with a game without a controller is conceptually a bigger step forward than the basic Wii control scheme.

Everything in your comment I already know. I was not commenting on how Kinect will work but its concept. Again, not hardware, but concept.

moparful992613d ago

Yea I know.. I wasn't trying to dispute or rebute your claim. I was complementing what you said, you know elaborating on what you had stated for those that don't comprehend too well..

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Theoneneo812613d ago

First of if its a big step forward how is it that NO Big Developers are making games for it the only game thats scheduled to work with Kinect is Harry Pottter last time I check. Sony on the other hand has atleast 5 AAA games that are out now that Support it and more to come with in the next two months.

vhero2613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

He needs to get his head out of MS a**e and start developing great games again. We haven't seen a great new title from him since Fable. Seriously though he's greenburgs little pet monkey what you expect? He was solely responsible for the Milo fraud at E3 2009. As for the irony of wrapping your heads around the new technology as it's easier to write for older tech I say PS3.

BLuKhaos2613d ago

That's funny of Molyneuz considering the Wii is a step foward from the Eyetoy while Kinect is a step sideways from the Eyetoy.

avengers19782613d ago

And we should all listen to Moly because he is not biased at all, and is totally being fair.

bustamove2613d ago

Lmfao, did he just say that?! Bwahahahha!

Seriously man, just wow.

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gauntletpython2613d ago

I hope his kid makes a video demanding better Kinect games.

8-bit2613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

lol yeah. Kinect is a step backward in a way. The game types we see on it are all stationary and rail based and it is limited to that

Otheros002613d ago

Kinect is a step back from pseye.
Proof in picture.

Godmars2902613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

Where'd you get that from? And why haven't those tech specs more widely shown if true?

IRetrouk2613d ago

those specs have been known for ages, its in an old article.

TheHater2613d ago

Where you got that from?

Otheros002613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

It's from an old article.

RememberThe3572613d ago

Well it does track in 3D...

But why the hell does it cost so damn much if it less of a camera then the PSEye?

gamingdroid2613d ago

Because it tracks in 3D and does mocap. What other technology out there for $149 does that right now?

Heck, I see an iPad for $499, but there are plenty of other iPads that do the exact same thing (albeit less pleasing), for half the cost. Why aren't anyone complaining about that?

One can argue all day long about the value of Kinect, especially since it hasn't been release, but it is hard to argue with the fact that nobody right now has something like Kinect on the market at even close to the price point.

moparful992613d ago

This whole "kinect tracks in 3d" talk is just a defelection from the fact that kinect essentially does the same thing that the eye toy did on the ps2... How many games have you seen that takes advantage of 3d tracking? All 3d tracking does is track your movements through 3d space.. Which means the only thing you can do with kinect is move the 8 or so feet towards your tv before you run out of room.. 3d tracking has no other implementations.. Even move does 3d tracking thanks to the move wand and the ps eye.. You are trying to sell everyone on the lies that microsoft pushed as kinects features... Is there 3d object scanning? Nope. Can you interact with a character on screen ala milo? Yea milo was the biggest lie coming out of the natal proposition.. They had people believing that a truly sentient AI was possible with kinect and they sold the concept with a scripted video showing some woman interacting with milo... Kinect is not doing anything that hasnt been done on the eye toy.. Only reason eye toy flew under the radar is sony's hands off approach to advertising and hype..

fooltheman2613d ago

it works with infrared...or am I mistaken?
it makes a body a lineman with points...
isn't he interpreting how large the points are to see the movement...

Just like sony uses the glowing bulb?

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Godmars2902613d ago

Still only gotten words, not evidence.

Optical_Matrix2613d ago

This is ridiculous. Don't claim Kinect is a bigger step forward than Wii because it uses no buttons. Why are they acting as if controller free gaming is new. I don't care if its improved, the Move is an improved Wii controller, but you don't see Sony marketing it as some never before seen thing. MS and their employee's are fully gassed.

Otheros002613d ago (Edited 2613d ago )

And worst of all it's NOT NEW and HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE BEFORE.
I hate when someone makes a clone of something and claims that it's new, innovative, and has never been done before.