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Blu-ray's Official Fact List & Response to the HD-DVD Shift by Paramount

IGN reports:
"The Blu-ray Disc Association presented a number Blu-ray facts which they believe justify the format as the prevailing method for viewing high-def DVDs:

-Blu-ray titles have consistently outsold HD DVD by a ratio of two to one since January of this year. Consumer preferences for BD have been especially clear with day-and-date releases on both formats like The Departed and 300

-Blu-ray has sold 1.6 million discs so far this calendar year, whereas HD DVD has sold 795K."

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MK_Red3709d ago

"Spiderman Trilogy and Ratatoiulle" Hi-Def are coming? Awesome news. I thought Disney just wanted to release HD version of Cars. Also, Sony has announced Spiderman 3 for Blu-ray so far but the trilogy is coming!

ALI-G3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

we sold more ... we have more..
-HD-DVD had more relases in the past 2 Q when they were only backed by Universal exculsivly (which relased almost 1/2),
-HD-DVD sold more stand alone players and have higher attach rate
-many 360 owner were holding off HD-DVD becuse they thought it will be dead by theis christmas .there is already over5 million360 owner in NA if MS make right price cut or offer than things will really turn ugly for sony
-in the latest servy sony made :around 75% of PS3 owner have one or more blue-ray title= is not that the one they got free with ps3
-sony claim they sold around 2M (compared to 1.5M HD-DVD)blue-ray BUT doesnot this inculde the free 500K casino royal which WERE given for the early adaaptor of PS3, plus the free blue-ray you get it in PS3 offers
-5:1 player ratio but only 2:1 disc sale ratio is not something to be that proud of .
-18 month deal with P that will last till 2009 this when digital distrbution willstart takin over.people will have to live with both format till than.
-XBLD+IPTV(RECORED)+HD-DVD will do it to me all in one box=xbox360
-biggest winner of this war=studio/companies which support both format
-biggest lose : consumer +losers blow me + blue-ray camp since they were air thin from winin the format war

just when sony thought they will hit the gold mine with Blue-ray everything got [email protected] up all over again for them

nomuken3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

ALI-G = Clueless child. Please keep it shut. Your opinion may be listened to in blue oyster bar, but on N4G people just dont care.

XxZxX3709d ago

before you gonna start look at sony crying, just turn back and look at your mom. She is crying because she gave born to a troll like you.

damnwrx3709d ago

CARS will definitely a Blu-ray edition and it will be a must buy fo me

Jeremy Gerard3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

HD DVD outsells bluray in stand alone players buy a huge margin

HD DVD still has more disk space

HD DVD on average has better picture quality

HD DVD has better and more extras included with movies due to software advantages.

HD DVD still far cheaper for the consumer. 179 price of entry. 299 stand alone.

HD DVD was outselling bluray 5 to 1 before the PS3 launched

Proof

Myth: Blu-ray has more capacity.

Reality: Follow me carefully here, because the distinction I’m going to make does not rule out the possibility that Blu-ray will indeed, ultimately offer more storage capacity.

While Blu-ray is (theoretically) capable of delivering a dual-layer 25GB disc for a total of 50GB’s, the truth of the matter is, the Blu-ray (movie) titles Sony has shipped thus far are on single layer 25GB discs.

So in reality as of August 2007, HD-DVD discs at dual-layer 15GB for a total of 30GB offer more capacity than Blu-ray, I’ll repeat that, as of right now HD-DVD is delivering more capacity than Blu-ray. That kind of flies in the face of everything we’ve heard about Blu-ray thus far huh?

Numbman3709d ago

That fact doesn´t change sh't when it comes to discs sold..

Bleyd3709d ago

Did you consider that HD DVD outsells Blu-Ray in terms of players because people that have already bought a PS3 already have a player? I guess not considering your assumption.

In what way does HD DVD have more disk space?

In what way does HD DVD have better picture quality?

I'll grant you the superiority in the way of extras but that may soon be challenged once Disney has released their Java enabled movies.

The players may be cheaper on HD DVD's side but you also have to consider what the features are of such a cheap device. Does it have HDMI? Is it capable of PCM bit stream audio? What about Dolby 7.1? Does it upscale older movies on regular DVD?

HD DVD movies may have outsold Blu-Ray 5 to 1 before the PS3 launched but who's outsold who now since HD DVD's inception? Who's continuing to outsell who on a regular basis now?

eXplotion3709d ago

-HDDVD outsells BluRay in standalone players because most people that wants to buy a BluRay player buys the ps3 as you can also play games on it and its the best and most reliable BluRay player out there.

-ARE YOU HIGH?? HDDVD does not have more disc space..

-This is not proven. I say both look the same.

-This is due some problem with JAVA software but this is FIXED already and 300 will prolly be rereleased for bluray with more extras than HDDVD version.

-If by 179 you mean 360 HDDVD add-on go ahead buy the most unreliable DVD and HDDVD player out there...

-BEFORE PS3... you said it yourself

synetic3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

-> HD DVD outsells bluray in stand alone players buy a huge margin
-wrong is only for 2 to 1

-> HD DVD still has more disk space
-have more disk space ??? roflol dude to use a 51 GB hddvd you will need a new player ( the currently hd dvd players dont work ) but in blu ray you can have a 200 GB played in any blu ray player tdk is working on a 200 GB for almost 1 year and half and soon we will have in the marked the firsts 100 GB

->HD DVD on average has better picture quality
- because studios are still using a old encoder but some movies are already using a new one ..

->HD DVD has better and more extras included with movies due to software advantages.
- lies blu ray have more extras because ... >__> have more space lol and the quality blu ray also win we have more audio opcions ^^

->HD DVD still far cheaper for the consumer. 179 price of entry. 299 stand alone.
- you got me there

->HD DVD was outselling bluray 5 to 1 before the PS3 launched
- wrong was only outselling for 2 to 1

Bordel_19003709d ago

roflmao @ Jeremy Gerard

What a joker!

Jeremy Gerard3709d ago

See my above posts for added content and if you want more FACTS not Sony hype, it is easy to find, but for the lazy, this link gives facts that still hold true and can be found by entering HD DVD vs Bluray specs in google, idiots.

http://www.hometheaterblog....

Rageanitus3709d ago

HD DVD outsells bluray in stand alone players buy a huge margin
Bluray is actually catching up rapidly in stand alone players, and ps3 is a viable device to sell media, the sales of the media show this in the stats

HD DVD still has more disk space
if your talking about the 51 gb, you need to purhcase a new player plus the studios have to produce the discs in 51 gb. Its a catch 22 if they produce 51 gb movies they will have to force those to buy new players hence rebuilding their user base, and it will take alot of money to advertise this. Hell there is a 200 gb version of blu-ray but It does not feasible to introduce that in the movie market yet.

HD DVD on average has better picture quality
Wrong, they are essentially the same quality video wise.

HD DVD has better and more extras included with movies due to software advantages.
so what is this truly a selling point,

HD DVD still far cheaper for the consumer. 179 price of entry. 299 stand alone. Yup that is true but the margin is decreasing

HD DVD was outselling bluray 5 to 1 before the PS3 launched
so whats your point, ps

Gizmo_Logix3709d ago

Jeremy,

That link you posted is from June, 2006. It's OUTDATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeremy Gerard3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

yeah old link but like i said it all still holds true, and you can find the same facts yourself elsewhere just do a search dude, geez, why are you so anxious to be manipulated by Sony, they need bluray to win BAD, that alone should make you question everything they say, M$ could care less about this format war, and from the looks of things Toshiba is out to lunch on the issue. Sony has the most to lose

Monkeynator3709d ago

@Jeremy
You have a serious logic flaw with the assumption that a release on a dual layer HD-DVD (30GB) capacity rather than a Single layer Blu-ray (25GB) means that the Blu-ray spec as a whole is lacking capacity. The only way to know if you are getting more benefit is to examine the size of the raw movie file and compare them (assuming equal codec usage). The reason the HD-DVD releases may be on dual layer discs could be that the movie cannot fit on the 15GB discs and look good, so they HAVE to use the dual layer.

If I have a movie that is 20GB I would have to use a 30GB HD-DVD, or a 25GB Blu-ray. If I have a 30GB movie I would have to use a 50GB Blu-ray.

Gizmo_Logix3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

When, I said that that link was OUTDATED. I meant that it was either true at the time BUT NOT anymore. Or that it was just plain wrong.

Do you really want me to refute EVERY SINGLE ONE of your "facts?" I can...

25GB only? Try 50GB Blu-ray....proof...

http://bluray.highdefdigest...
http://bluray.highdefdigest...
http://bluray.highdefdigest...
http://bluray.highdefdigest...

Omegasyde3709d ago

more storage?

Here is a fact for you Jeremy Gerard:

FACT: Jeremy Gerard is redundant and that OMEGASYDE has more 4 times the storage space than Jeremy Gerard. OMEGASYDE also has better built in features and last 4 tiems as long as Jeremy Gerard.

Jeremy Gerard = Runny-RunOff of the Mouth onto the Keyboard. A.K.A. Think before you type fool. Try doing research and looking up facts as well.

hfaze3709d ago (Edited 3709d ago )

"Myth: Blu-ray has more capacity.

Reality: Follow me carefully here, because the distinction I’m going to make does not rule out the possibility that Blu-ray will indeed, ultimately offer more storage capacity.

While Blu-ray is (theoretically) capable of delivering a dual-layer 25GB disc for a total of 50GB’s, the truth of the matter is, the Blu-ray (movie) titles Sony has shipped thus far are on single layer 25GB discs.

So in reality as of August 2007, HD-DVD discs at dual-layer 15GB for a total of 30GB offer more capacity than Blu-ray, I’ll repeat that, as of right now HD-DVD is delivering more capacity than Blu-ray. That kind of flies in the face of everything we’ve heard about Blu-ray thus far huh?"

You DO realize that it is cheaper to press single-layer discs than dual-layer, don't you?

http://www.proactionmedia.c...

HD-DVD

Copies Single Dual
5,000 Discs $1.69 ea $1.99 ea
10,000 Discs $1.55 ea $1.85 ea
25,000 Discs $1.45 ea $1.69 ea
100,000 Discs $1.35 ea $1.55 ea

Blu-Ray

Copies Single
5,000 Discs $1.99 ea
10,000 Discs $1.79 ea
25,000 Discs $1.59 ea
100,000 Discs $1.49 ea

As you can see, it is cheaper to make single-layer Blu-Ray discs in quantity than it is to make dual-layer HD-DVD's. And as you suggested, HD movies can easily fit on a single layer with Blu-Ray.

Now, which format will be the better one going further down the road? HD-DVD, which is already going to dual-layer for HD movies, or Blu-Ray which can fit the same content on a single layer, with dual-layer capability designed in from day one?

blackmagic3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

Well, like any good consumer, you need to shop around.
http://www.pacificdisc.com/...

100,000 single layer hd-dvd $1.29
100,000 dual layer hd-dvd $1.45
100,000 single layer blu-ray $1.45
100,000 dual layer blu-ray ? yet another company that can't do it.

Actually, I had a lot of trouble even finding a company that mentioned dual layer blu-ray replication as a service.

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CadDad3709d ago

....150 million reasons why they made this choice. It's not like they can't pocket that money and re-release all those movies if and when blu-ray becomes the adopted format.

-CadDad

dburrell3709d ago

I am tired of hearing movie studios picking Blue Ray or picking HD-DVD. Let the consumer pick which format wins. I personally don't care but would like to see a winner soon.
I also don't like the storage standard choosing what content it can hold. I won't be buy a High Definition Blue Ray or HD-DVD until the movie industry just makes movies and lets me decide what my wallet and preference want.