EMEAA Weekly Chart | 18th Sep 2010

VGchartz: The week's top-selling games/hardware ranked by unit sales

Console Weekly (change)

360 116,934 (+71%)
DS 92,455 (-1%)
PS3 58,167 (+18%)
Wii 51,807 (-3%)
PSP 28,304 (-14%)
PS2 15,685 (-7%)

New Software

1. Halo: Reach (X360) 952,085
2. Sports Champions (PS3) 60,732

[big_silky]

Maybe 2011 will finally be the year of the PS3 fellas, Move didn't even give it a minor bump.

[ssj]

Just wait for..........PS4

[DaTruth]

Didn't this say VGChartz? You guys are discussing it like if it were real sales numbers!

[YellowLightofDeath]

But I thought the PS3 owned Europe? I guess not. Looks like th 360 and PS3 are just about tied in terms of lifetime sales.

[SWORDF1SH]

Seriously!

20% increase is pretty good.

[RememberThe357]

Optimism doesn't go over well in this crowd. Just nod and smile.

Like this:

"Sure, yeah. The PS3 is totally doomed..."

See, they see that and they feel validated and move on. Otherwise, they'll smash on the disagree button and take your bubbles.

Your walking on egg shells here at N4G, your walking on egg shells...

[Trroy]

*Looks at Kinect launch weekend*

Give it up for the 360 fans. They are just as stubborn as the PS3 fans were at the start of the generation. Kudos for loyalty.

These guys willingly embrace Kinect, after preaching how lame the Wii was for eons. At least the Move has some serious games coming out for it within the next 6 months.

[StanLee]

Regardless of how great Move games may seem, they all seem like they would be better played with a standard controller, so what's the point? Kinect for me is a none factor. Besides video Kinect, I can see no real use for it.

[Omega4]

Well Move wasn't much of a system seller, quite surprised as I've seen a lot of ads for it during the X-factor in UK, so I'm guessing people just don't want a more accurate Wii.

And Halo is once again a system seller, wouldn't surprise me if a similar bump happens with Black Ops, although it will be hard to tell if its Kinect or COD :p

[Ju]

Mor...(oops). They sold more Sports Bundles than PS3s (60K vs. 58K) I guess the Move (and the PS3) sold quite well. Only topped by Reach. I think they could put peanuts into the case with a Halo sticker and that would still outsell everything else (at leas the first time).

[Nitrowolf2]

60K ARE NOT MOVE SALES THEY ARE SPORT CHAMPION EU BUNDLE HAS NO GAME WITH IT
http://blog.eu.playstation....

TROLLS ARE JUMPING THE GUN FOR MOVE SALES

[kaveti6616]

That is to imply that Halo Reach is somehow a bad game?

How very clever of you.

3 years from now when you've burned out on all your hyped franchises, hundreds of thousands of people will still be enjoying Halo Reach.

So, yeah, Bungie could probably pack a bunch of peanuts into a case and slap a Halo sticker on it and sell it, but Bungie decided to create the best Halo game ever, and one of the best games of the generation, with more content than all of its competitors.

[Anon1974]

What's that? Move didn't make a significant impact in hardware sales for parts of Europe in the 3 days it was available according to faked VGChartz data? And Omega4 is crowing about it? Who would have thunk it?

Please stop posting these figures as if they were anywhere close to accurate. It's over halfway through September now and VGChartz numbers are still half a million off from official PS3 numbers that Sony released at the end of June. They're not accurate. This isn't news. Stop posting it.

And as for Halo being a system seller, I have a challenge for you. Go look at the official Microsoft data for the quarter after Halo 3 launched. Now compare it to the same quarter the year before? What do you notice? What's that? 360 console sales actually went down year over year when Halo 3 launched according to Microsoft's data? Funny how the truth and Omega4 so often find themselves at odds with each other.

I'd wait until official data from each company is available before I started making claims like "Move didn't sell consoles" or "Halo Reach is a system seller". You should to. Cheers!

[N4PS3Fanboys]

VGChartz's estimates are sold numbers, Sony's estimates are shipped numbers. Sony can only track how many PS3s leave their warehouses, while VGChartz attempts to track how many units are actually sold to consumers. VGChartz numbers are likely very accurate and this short analysis can help to show that Sony definitely overshipped the PS3 by a lot last quarter, which would explain the large discrepancy between the numbers:

"Jan-March 2010: According to Sony, PS3 shipped 2.2 million
During that time, PS3 sold 950.9k in NPD + 500k in Media Create = 1.45m North America/Japan.

April-June 2010: According to Sony, PS3 shipped 2.4 million
During that time, PS3 sold 640k in NPD + 250k in Media Create = 900k North America/Japan.

So Sony shipped 200,000 more in the 2nd quarter despite selling 550,000 less in North America and Japan. That's a 750,000 unit discrepancy between shipped numbers and sold numbers right there, not even including Europe. This would easily explain the difference between Sony's numbers and other sources' worldwide numbers, such as VGChartz.

There is no official sales data for Europe, but sales would not dramatically increase in Europe while declining everywhere else. They would almost certainly have declined there as well. The numbers are pretty clear. Sony shipped a ton more than they sold this quarter to catch up with a supply shortage. That should normalize in their next financial report."

----

And here's yet another funny thing about PS3 sales; after announcing the PS3 had "sold" 38.1 million back in June, Sony more recently announced that the PS3 had sold 38 million at TGS this month. Three months later and they report a lower number? Very strange...

[ColJessup]

Sorry, N4PS3Fanboys. You're wrong. All it takes is a quick check of Sony's investor site to see that they reported shipped PS3 figures for the first six months the PS3 was out, then they switched.
DR66 provided that link a month ago.
"From FY06 the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales."
Unless you think Sony is lying to their investors, looks like your claim is busted.

And if VGChartz tracks sales and that did somehow explain why PS3 numbers were off, how do you explain how time and time again say more 360's are sold then Microsoft says are sold to retail? Figure that one out. Face it, you, and VGChartz are out to lunch.

And of course Sony said last month 38 million consoles were sold. That was the last official number. They don't release sales data ahead of their fiscal updates - ever! The next official update is up to the end of September, according to Sony's site. You want a bet that VGChartz is still off 2 million from the official SOLD data that Sony reports, like they have been for almost 8 months now? And how about when Microsoft reports sold to retail for their quarter as well. You want a bet that VGChartz will still report more 360's sold than Microsoft says they sent out for the year?

And if VGChartz tracks "Sold", how come they've been right before? Either Microsoft or Sony started doing something different or VGChartz did. How come their numbers once were fairly in sync with the official data before but they aren't anymore?

Son, I don't think you can handle the truth! I know VGChartz can't, or just doesn't care. Where are you gonna get your data - from the company themselves that are subject to external audit and accountable by law, or some fan run guesstimate web site that who answers to exactly no one?

Bubbles to DR66 again for being the voice of reason in this asylum.

[ColJessup]

Just because I agree with DR, disagree with you and know how to use Google to check my facts doesn't mean I'm a DR66 clone, it means I'm like the other 95% of users on this site.

Guess what, sparky. When I opened this, my only N4G account, and called you out on some crap you were spreading, I got an email from the mods telling me to stop using multiple accounts. Being this is my only account, you have the option to reply to the message and let the mods know they sent it in error. I did because they sent it in error at your behalf and guess what? I'm still here and I'm guessing your screams of "Dupe Account!" pretty much fall on deaf ears now.

The mods are more than welcome to check my posting history, and IP, which I'm sure they did. As for my posting history, hey! Everyone is free to look at my posting history and make up their own minds. I've defended DR66 a couple of times because the guy always seems to have a valid point but only one bubble and dudes jump all over him even when he's 100% correct. I've been on your case a couple of times too, because I see you doing the exact opposite - all the time. It's like you have some sickness that inhibits you from doing anything but spin anti-sony crap. I think I have yet to see you actually talk about games. The other 80% of my posts thus far have nothing to do with either of you. Just look at my posting history.
It's nice that a new user can come on this site to talk about games and the industry and expect to be harassed right out of the gate. Actually, it's been a good forum so far as far as the back and forth I've had with some gamers. A shame that there's always someone lurking in the background like you that always wants to poison the conversation. It's nice that you've only got the one bubble though. I imagine it'd be much worse if you were allowed to go on on. I'd put you on ignore, but it's just too damn much fun watching you get worked up over nothing.

And if you call 2 million consoles off for almost a year "surprisingly accurate in the long run" I sure as hell you don't work with numbers for a living.

[pwnd_of_lol]

lol omega is awesome XD

Start the Party! (PS3)
Sony Computer Entertainment
13,646 13,646

ahhhh.....

[Darrius Cole]

So these people expect me to believe that Halo: Reach only sold 1 million copies in its first week.

These numbers are a complete waste of time.

[Trroy]

This is not inclusive of America and Japan, although according to the UK-only charts posted earlier today, the VGChartz Move numbers seem low.

As expected. VGC data seems to be pretty spotty with regards to Sony numbers. I believe their retail data is skewed heavily toward America, which also tends to skew their Wii, 360, and PS3 numbers from reality, and much closer to American-only ratios.

[Bigpappy]

Those 1 million in EU is not nearly enough. UK alone would sell a million in a week.

[chanto23]

I want to see the same trolls in here when GT5 comes out

[coolbeans]

BUT you have to consider how much talk went into downplaying Reach's potential of being a system seller. Looking at these charts alone is still considered ownage, regardless as to how you change things.

Almost everyone knows GT5 is already promising to sell many, many systems. I don't think anyone can disagree with GT5's selling potential.

[units]

will you be there

[chanto23]

^^^Right by your side holding your hand^^^^

[jjmustoe]

at the top is 3 xbox games and 8 ps3 games

[belal]

ofcourse halo is going to sell more than move, it¨'s microsoft's biggest title.

Move is only an add on thingy and i work at gamestop so i know that move sells well and will sell better over the coming months. as for halo, the increase will drop very soon.

GT5 soon fellas, expect 3 million first week.

and offcourse if ps3 gets one price cut now it's over for the 360. Remember one hting 199 was the sweet spot when the ps2 launched, now imagine ps3 at 199$, it will be huge.

[coolbeans]

"i work at gamestop"

Wow your talk seems like Playstation is your religion. Shouldn't you be swaying somebody from purchasing a 360 right now? ;)

[turnerdc]

It's managed to cover some ground but I highly doubt yet another price cut will "destroy" the 360. They better hurry up too, this gen is almost over. Personally I don't see them moving out of last place. Doesn't change a thing though, just as long as you're enjoying the games then who cares about sales.

[kaveti6616]

People who work at Gamestop are the worst bunch of liars ever.

Their job is to sell you any crappy game your eyes stop on. They don't offer any good advice and they don't offer good customer service.

If you look at a crappy game like Haze and ask a gamestop employee about it, he's going to say it's amazing. And he won't bat an eyelash doing so.

So, you go ahead and work at Gamestop Belal, and tell us how things go for you in the snake oil business.

[All_4_One]

How predictable. Reach comes out, boosts console sales, and the trolls emerge. I could have called that a mile away.

[seij555]

They have been lurking waiting for the obvious sales data that 360 sells well just for this week because of Reach. Where were they all the weeks before summer when PS3 out sold the 360 in Europe by a significant margin? I can't wait to see the sudden mass disappearance of trolls when GT5 comes out.

[Bzone24]

Lurking waiting for 360 sales data for this week? Hasn't the Xbox 360 been selling pretty good for a couple months now? You act like this is the first and only good week for the 360.

Btw, there isn't going to be a sudden mass disappearance of trolls when GT5 comes out. There will be even more, most of them will be ps3 trolls though such as yourself.

[lolzers]

N4G has taught me never to believe in VG charts. My belief in Father Christmas is greater than my belief in VG charts. I shall never believe in VG charts unless they put Sony products above everyone else, and then and only then shall I believe them.

VG CHARTS ARE MADE BY THE DEVIL!

[coolbeans]

"...unless they put Sony products above everyone else, and then and only then shall I believe them."

Wouldn't that tarnish the credibility aspect?

[lolzers]

No. Apparently they are lying about the amount Sony has sold. They're behind what Sony have really sold. Sony have sold far more! Ask anyone on N4G, they'll tell you!

[masterofpwnage]

just take off that the second L and that name fits you well

someone takes this site to sersiously haha.

its okay dude.

edit
and when you take off sega,
your name fits you perfectly.

[MiloGarret]

Your name doesn't fit you at all.

[lolzers]

lozers. Um....haha isn't that funny! Lozers! Haha!

No, that's pretty shit really. If you are going to attempt to be funny, here's a little tip - Be funny!

It's not rocket science.

EDIT:I'm very drunk, fuck you all.

[coolbeans]

"Ask anyone on N4G, they'll tell you"

I recommend you stay clear of the PS3-brand loyalists here. The same n4g is also the ones that show PS3-exclusive metacritic scores to downplay a person's opinion. You tell me which is more bias: n4g or vgchartz

[masterofpwnage]

idk how you thought that was suppose to be funny, its fact.
now look at this person claiming he is drunk.
wow you bad arnt you.

and you dont think im funny.

i think im hilarious.
i feel like im dave chappele statues in n4g

[EXID]

i don't see why consumers care about these stats. is it REALLY that important? does it effect your life THAT much? it's not like sony is just going to go, "ok, 3rd place isn't good enough. we're done.", and pull all the ps3's off the shelves and stop production of all games and development. sorry xbots, sony isn't going anywhere.

[lolzers]

You were doing so well until you said 'xbots'.

Then it went downhill fast.

[masterofpwnage]

you shouldnt be talking.

look at your post above it.

yeah its only okay to bash the ps3 fanboys right.

edit

yes now thts what i call a true
selfish person my friends lol

edit
but you still comment back.
that really shows how much you care.
to willingly comment back to me.
i think you really do care for me.

edit
sega.
is funny because i never really said that its not okay to bash any of them.
im just saying if that guy cant say xbots and he can say something like what he said above

[lolzers]

Yes, it is.

Let me add you to my 'Couldn't give a toss about list', have a nice day.

A lesson is learnt today. Although speaking to normal people is okay, you should sometimes take time out to speak to retards like masterofpwnage. Every little helps.

[MiloGarret]

you shouldn't be talking.

look at your post above.

yeah it's only ok to bash 360 fanboys, right?

[units]

either is the 360 so deal with it

[Shnazzyone]

only 60,000 units of move sold in the first week?!?! Not lookin very good for HD motion.

[Nitrowolf2]

first off i have no idea where people get 60,000 for MOVE figures (Morons)
MOVE was sold in a bundle AND as a Standalone
same with sports champion
so no one knows the sales of MOVE yet
plus in EU they don't sell a game with the bundle

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.co...

IN OTHER WORDS YOU TROLLS FAIL TO REALIZE THESE ARE NOT MOVE SALES

[Shnazzyone]

it's roughly... 130,000 since many of the included move controller sales are far more likely to be purchased second controllers. I know noone who previously already had a PSeye. Not to mention that's 130,000 WORLDWIDE

still, sony better hope that's slow burn sales. Because i'm used to seeing first week sales of sony titles being the highest for that game. As most sony products that's their peak sales. There is good reason to see this as not a good thing for sony.

Sry

[masterofpwnage]

damn good job halo.

the hype for this game isnt as big as halo 3 though.

i remember people in my school actually stayed home just to play it and was talked about it for weeks. not so much for halo reach

i cant wait to play it.

for me halo is so much funner when its split screen online

[Mastodon]

I'm pretty sure the official numbers for the following were:

Halo Reach: 1.0 million units (rounded off)

Move: 185,000 units (including bundles as they count...).

[Skadoosh]

I said this in the beginning and I'll say it again. Move is going to flop. And it looks like it flopped hard. But before the sony fanboys get on me. I expect the same for Kinect and maybe even worse. Move and Kinect are 2 bad ideas for this gen. They should of just let the Wii keep that market.

[Nitrowolf2]

thing is there are no MOVE sales on this
60,000 is for sport champion which was not bundled with MOVE Bundle in EU
there is no game bundled with it

[units]

i think microsoft and sony bit off more than they can chew with this motion control

[units]

great numbers for reach

[Ju]

Nobody cares about the Wii anymore, huh? Not even considering its decent for weeks now. Dropping below the HD consoles. The weeks will tell if that is a sustained decline or just overshadowed by Halo and Move.

[Nitrowolf2]

yeah idk, people go and say the Wii is dead and yet just watch it bounce right back up when zelda releases

[Ju]

Yeah. I don't think it'll bounce back this time, though...

[Shnazzyone]

Wait till christmas. Bragging about sales numbers made during the summer months is silly... now numbers from November and december... now THOSE are important.

[xg-ei8ht]

Oh come on, reach isn't selling to new customers, it's re-selling to old ones.

SLIM.

[alb1899]

I asid before wait for Reach:......there you go!

[Counter Strike]

Once Again... When GT5 cames out wont save the Ps3 because Kinect comes in the same Week in Americas... Too bad sony u lost.

[DigitalAnalog]

"Would you kindly" give me the next "winning" lottery numbers.

Thank you.

-End statement

[saint_seya]

lol ^^
u are funny
thinking that kinect will take gt5 sales
ure trying to be funny right?
hope so...
if not.. your blind dude..
its like saying reach wont sale because of move...
god, some guys go beyond fanboyism

[DarkFantasy]

people fighting over sales numbers Lmao!!.why cant we just agree that all 3 consoles have good games.when will you 12 year olds figure out that just because a game sells more on another console that it DOSE NOT mean the other is "doomed" who expected a new controller to out sell a game..seriously

-facepalms-