Writing off PlayStation Move, Sony's new motion-control system for its powerful video game system, as a clone of Nintendo's Wii would be a mistake.
now can we move on?? no more Wii is good as Move BS. just one video proves that Move >>>> Wii
And since when have proof and good arguments shut fanboys up?
facts just make fanboys worse. lol
how can pricision not better?
The Move is simply better just because it's on PS3. Even if the Move was the exact same technology as on Wii, you would still get free online gaming, mature rated games, hd games, psn downloadable games, and hardcore games on PS3.
Move is Far B3yond wii... wii is stuck with load shovelware crape everywhere and a bunch of good games to play, PlayStation Move is another Story, this device and its lineup will get better and better over the time and will appeal every person that wants to play with PlayStation Move....
Move might be newer and have better technology for better tracking, but do you honestly think the casual gamer, who this is targeted at, will give a crap about true 1:1 motion? Doubtful. And do you honestly think Move will sell as much as Wii has? Very doubtful. I've seen casual/non-gamers try Move, and they still "swing and hope for the best" when they play the games. True tracking means jack all at the end of the day for them.
At first I thought the same, but after I got home and tried it. I realized that 1:1 movement actually makes a huge difference. when you make a swing movement and it responds accurately it becomes more fun because it involves you in the game. When you get a response that you feel you contributed to, it makes you want to continue. It's pretty much the same thing as in any game. When you are good at that game, it's because you feel you have control of it right? I realize now why MOVE is so good, and it's the same reason I like my hardcore games like MAG, and COD. It's because It makes me feel that I can win with my own skills, and it isn't by some fluke. I had my doubts, but 1:1 is really a big deal.
we just held a move party with 8 friends tonight. most of them have a wii. 3 of them are buying PS3s next week. Folks, 400$ is not that much for quality engineering that lasts.
FYI move isnt sapposed to be a casual-only devise, so get your trolling head out of your a** its also aimed at the hardcore audience with hardcore games, and the hardcore do give a damn about 1:1 motion tracking.
@Redrum So for giving my opinion on Move after I've actually tried it and watching people play it makes me a troll? Please! Grow up and get over yourself buddy. The fact is Move will be targeted at casuals. I never said Sony aren't making games for people like us or that we wouldn't buy it. Of course the hardcore games like SOCOM will probably show how good the tracking is with Move, but until then the current games are nothing but a demo of what Move can do. Just like Wii Sports is on the Wii.
I dunno... but they will give a crap about augmented reality...
It's amazing. My arm is sore for playing it in Fry's and then at home for 3hrs. The archery game is not working properly though or i may not be doing it properly. The sword fighting game is awesome BUT they could still improve on the shield usage and gameplay. Stupid people in Fry's kept telling me to jump to do the jump attack but you actually just have to keep two Moves on top of your head to do it like it says in the screen. I use the fat guy wearing green. I dont like that i have to hold trigger to use the shield. Cant wait for the fist fighting game... forgot what it's called. @ Morganfell, if you see this. Ruse and Move dont mix. Played it with the Move just a little while ago. Better with mouse and keyboard but then again Ruse isnt a very hardcore RTS like COH or SC2. So meh...
That fighting game you are reffering to is called the fight: lights out...
archery... If it's makes you point to low...then you're doing something wrong...^^ Is sometimes have it too
Just picked up Move yesterday. Played sports champions all night and tiger woods this morning. I also went back and played the old nintendo sports and some of the other sports game on the WII.. Move BLOWS the WII away. It is a 3D environment. It is like your hand is moving in 3D space. Completely love the experience so far. It is refreshing.
its more accurate than the wii remote, hence it is the superior control. does not matter that it came out years later. whats matter is the performance. the wii and the move should not be in the same class at all.
As long as it has the nintendo name on it, there will be some people that will just get it. no matter what the competition has. I like move better though
pretty much what you said.
might be more accurate but software where nintendo has them
Really??? How is that so? I think SONY has already conquered Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort with Sports Champions. And on top of that they are offering a much more diverse collection of games that will implement motion control. By this time next year I think most who want motion control will be going with the Move. I am convinced. After playing Sports Champions this is the real deal.
about 90+% are shovelware. Which might also happens to Kinect in the future.
What acedoh said. After playing Sports Champions, it is surprisingly good. I had more fun playing Volleyball against my daughter, than playing her in any game in Wii Sports/Resort. Nintendo is the Mario console for us. And the occasional Metroid or Zelda. EDIT: PlayerX, you realize my opinion of games is more important to ME than Metacritic or reviews in general. SC is accurate as hell and fun. Eyepet is like a surreal trip to the Land of the Lost. Great fun too. My kids have all but forgotten the Wii.
You guys do realize that Wii Sports Resort is higher rated than any of these Move games so to say it's better is wrong. Find me a Move game with a higher average http://www.gamerankings.com... @Action Bastard that's cool that you are liking it, but to deny the Wii has better games than the Move is foolish.
@ acedoh Sony has conquered Wii Sports have they? With the mediocre Sports Champions? Get your head on straight. SC is laughable with the games included. For a series of games that's meant to show what Move can do, I was hardly impressed. Instead all Sony did for me was show their "eXtreMe" face with the laughable production values for the games. Wii Sports does have a more "family friendly" look to it, but SC has the "extreme edge dude" by having the cliche muscle bound guys, "hot" girls and hip alternative characters. Something Sony likes to include in their games. As for software, do you REALLY think you won't see shovelware on Move? Sure. Wii does have a lot of it, so expect developers to port an "HD" version to Move. Its easy money. Believe it or not, Move isn't targeted at you or me. It's targeted at the people that bought a Wii and it's shovelware games.
@Player X: So we compare proven wii games to launch titles for MOVE? Give it some time and we'll start seeing more games like Sorcery that'll be charming us to no end. Wii has maybe a couple good games, being zelda, mario, and metroid, but other than that it's shovelware. Who's to say Sony will go down the same road, they already have dozens of amazing games that are quite capable of using MOVE, Heavy Rain, RE5, Killzone 3, etc...
that Wii Sports Resort has a higher rating? Have you played Sports Champions or just watched a video? Yes the characters are over the top. So what. I spent my wonderful Saturday evening playing table tennis. I am average at best. Although this game is so addictive that I was making myself a better player with the competition. The accuracy and feel of these games does not come close on the Wii. Of course with the Wii you can play with your Mii's which is cute. I am sure we will see further evolutions of games like Sports Champions. It's hard not to feel like you are playing the real sports with the accuracy and competition. That is where I can say the Wii will never come close.
PS Move is definately more responsive than the Wii remote, I know that much. Also, I watched some gameplay footage of some random japanese girl playing with Microsoft's Kinect.. And It didn't look "synced".. At one point in the video, she waved her arm & it toke more than 5-10 seconds for the system to pick up her movement = not good. From what I've gathered from the many gamers on here who have bought PS Move.. it is extremely quick on response times.. & great fun. :) In other words.. Buy PS Move! Not Kinect. :P
+ More accurate and allows for 3D tracking. I've been following people impressions on forums and the consensus is overwhelming positive toward the tech. People is having fun even with so called casual games like Sport Champions. Very promising indeed.
It should be bundled. the table tennis is sweet as is the archery and gladiator. Ive not tested the rest thoroughly enough to vouch for or against them yet. Not perfect but definitely the best motion controller on the market.
Ppl have to remember the same crap bias ps3 exclusives have suffered over the last 3 years still exists. Note it down Tumble a game that costs $9.99 and is one of the biggest technical leaps I have ever seen in 25 years of gaming got 3/10 from IGN. Fact is the technology is AAA and the lineup although aimed at being accessible is excellent it really is, all of it.
Tumble is the biggest technical leap you've seen in 25 years? The videos I've seen just look like a boring tech demo, yet I keep hearing these good things about it. Could you explain to me what's so special about the game?
@ KwietStorm Because you have control of a 3d space and can move objects in the X, Y, and Z axis. technically it is very immersive because you are not just moving up and down, but forward and backward. Just like building blocks when you were a kid, but in a virtual world. You really just have to experience it. I am not saying it is the most impressive game and the gameplay is a little slow, but the quality of the tech IS impressive.
When I first started up Tumble, the first thing I wanted to see was if I can throw a block all the way across the stage into the far background. I grabbed, I threw, I conquered. Move is awesome.
i took the plunge and decided to become an early adopter of the move. bought sports champion thinking its just gonna be a "casual" experience and showcase of what my move will be capable of. boy how wrong was i. sports champion is bloody fun to play and by no means is an easy game. i love the fact that you need skill (and physical stamina)to play it. the gladiator game got me thinking that if demon souls could get a patch for move it would be fantastic! will probably pick up resi 5 to see how it fares also but tumble is another pleasant suprise for me. bottom line move seems very promising to me and i see many hours of usage especially since i do see sony supporting it to the max! edit @funandgun- couldnt agree more mate. tumble is a very impressive demo and is a slight glimpse of what the move is capable of.
...for early adopters of the Move. That game will give you the best sense of how precise the Move can be with shooters. It took me some time to get a feel for RE5 with Move but by chapter 3 and some tweaks to controler speed the Move is amazing. I am totally looking forward to some Killzone 3 with Move. Didn't think it possible but the Move could replace ds3 for certain games with me.
@Why o why I guess you mean EU, right? it comes bundled in the NA starter kit. @garos How you doing mate? nice to hear you are having a lot of fun. I havent had enough time to pick my bundle yet. Hope I can get it by Wednesday. BTW I'm with you on an action RPG like DS using MOVE. That would be awesome, and not just for sword fighting but for using the arch, or spells. the possibilities are indeed there. @himdel Do the tank controls improve noticeably with MOVE?
@Jacky B I agree. And Tumble is a blast. When you first take control and move your hand in and out of the screen/3D space, you get that same sort of feeling like when you first turned on your PS3. It may be a simple game but it's addictive and fun. IGN's score is merely the opinion of person A. Person B would of certainly had a different view.
The Move is not a Wiimote. The sooner people get that through their heads the more enjoyable it will be. Ignore what the the haters, naysayers and fanboys, especially on this site. Sony worked on this for ten years and the quality shows. They improved on the Wiimote and that a good thing. Of course that doesn't mean we forget the Wiimote in gaming history. It obviously was a success in it's own right. I just wish everyone would stop calling the Move a Wii clone though. That really isn't a fair assessment.
it may show more promise but i dont care i want to see really good games that can only be done on move its line up its way to weak now so i wont buy it
JSonline? Cause all the major sites know it isnt as superior as Sony fans are trying to suggest.
And we have Wii defender #1. I think the Wii is good and I like Nintendo but you're too critical of Sony and a lot of what you say usually doesn't make any sense. Stop being bitter.
Stop hatin on Sony man, you're pathetic...
they say we are hypocrites for liking move,but not the wii.when in reality,we hated the imprecision of the device and lack of quality games. comparing the move and the wiimote is hilarious.move has or will have better precision better graphics better online 3D gaming augmented reality gesture control voice control head tracking scanning of objects but somehow they compare move to the wiimote.it's like comparing the n64 controller to the dualshock when they came out.dualshock was a better and more comfortable controller.how miyamoto came out with that beast of a controller was beyond my understanding from a guy who creates simple but fun games. wii gamers are up in arms because move is better.360 gamers are up in arms because move does what sony said it would and kinect doesn't.just hilarious.
all that still doesn't make a better game....all that bullshit could keep the games boring and tech demo like. Wii is fun. PERIOD!!!!!!! I bought Game Boy over Sega Game Gear. Why? The GAMES. And Nintendo will release a more tech console sooner than later...making Move old.
But Move makes things more fun. better precision better graphics better online 3D gaming augmented reality gesture control voice control head tracking scanning of objects
But the Wii is NOT fun. PERIOD. And that has nothing to do with comparing precision of motion controls. You couldn't give me a Wii for free BECAUSE of the games. The motion specific/launch games for the Move are the majority of what you find on the Wii. "Fun" little pick me up games that the whole family will enjoy. None of that is for me. It's only games like Socom and Killzone that would even have me consider the Move, and of course, games like those just are not on the Wii. You take away the motion control and I would have those games anyway, on PS3. Wii MIGHT have been fun when I was a kid or a teenager, but not even close now. Yes I already know, that is my opinion, so no need for anyone to make that statement.
I'm so right.....3.5/10 "Bad" IGN for Tumble. Nuff said. :) A talented game designer is all that's required in today's game market. PERIOD!!!!!
Tumble is for people with a brain. Seriously, that thing is mind bugglign and out of the 200$ i bought on move right now, tumble is probably the most interesting one.
90 joystick 83 gametrailers 80 game informer 80 eurogamer ign obviously got it wrong...if you were a little brighter you would realise that
Just mad you paid $99 for a "promise". :) And if the Wii isn't fun then the PS3/360 must be a funeral. Again, a fanboy who doesn't own multiple consoles. Step your game up. And I know I'm right. Go head track, voice sync.....shit...go buy Kinect with all that too...lol. I hope you can stand on your head and shoot enemies with your toes..lol. Until I see some major software, Move will stay in the store. You guys turned into casual-cores...lol. I penned that...casual-cores. :)
if you enjoy kiddie games with sd graphics and shit motion controls knock yourself out buddy...i wonder if you know that for nintendo to make their motion control somewhat worthwhile they had to rip off the tech in the dualshock 3?...that's all wii motion + is, the gyroscope tech sony had been using for 3 years
We spent a whole year trying to resist another console to clutter the living room and waited for the PlayStation Move. AND IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT!
Yes that why sites are giving it 9s and 10s and 5/5s Seferoth75. Because it is inferior. Why don't you take your psychotic PS3 hate sonewhere else? Your drone on and on about me and everyone else trolling on articles and here you are. If you hate PS3 and Move so much why don't you get lost.Damn kiljoy.
i hope sony gets the same reaction nintendo got with the wii at launch
Just got mine (last one at the 4 gamestops around) and I have to say i like it more than i did my Wii especially with rail shooters so please SEGA give me a HoTD Overkill port.
I bet it can bake, clean, iron, feed the kids and have sex with me. But it will never give me Zelda, Mario, Metroid, kirby, donkeykong etc etc. I dont care much for how precise it is, cause non of that is relevant to the awesome games delivered by Nintendo.
yes, and u will never get a halo or a gt5 in your wii.. we are talking about controllers, not game, every gamer has his own preferences, but here we are debating about motion controllers, not the games.. and like i said, if thats the case, i dont disliked the wii for his controller, but didnt liked for the games on it, i like graphics and new ips, nintendo is about same games, with new controllers, aint saying thats bad, but it doesnt appeal to me, like move doesnt appeal to u.. also i have a wii on my house (frend of mine let me borrow his wii) and i used 2 o 3 times in a month (he has like 30 games, but from them the only one worth of a time is super mario galaxy, but i dont have time cause im playing my ps3).. just to play wii sports or the star wars game, and once house of the dead... so u cant tell me that i said that cause i never had a wii, when i fact, i have an unused wii on my house :s
My point is, it doesnt matter how it competes against the Wii. One does not offer what the other does. This is the power of both. I never said it doesn't appeals to me, Im just making an obvious statement to stupid arguments these articles provoke.
I don't need 25 Mario games, after the third one I was done. there is not enough "meat" on the Wii, sometimes you have to stop drinking milk and sink your teeth into something beyond the same old platformers. your not one of those clowns that started crying like a twilight fan when Nintendo announced a new Zelda, are you?? sigh....
You're right, and I am glad it doesn't offer Zelda 16, Mario 32, Kirby, Donkey Kong, etc etc etc etc. You are wrong though when you say neither one offers something the other doesn't because that is the whole point of the article. It's not a stupid argument. It's stating facts about the tech itself.
ahahah you 2 are just horrible. Im not bashing Move, I have something against these comparisons. "You are wrong though when you say neither one offers something the other doesn't because that is the whole point of the article. It's not a stupid argument. It's stating facts about the tech itself." PS3 doesn't offer Nintendo awesomeness, Wii doesn't offer PS3 Awesomeness. I was talking about PROVOKING. You people just love to jump into defense mode. @madpuppy, You are entitled to your opinion, but dont be a hypocriet for adding numbers to these games cause you love a new iteration of you game as well. If I like Nintendo games you don't have to be a douche about it. Im not bashing you for what you like.
Nintendo need to stop beating the dead horse and make something new, If Ford only sold cars from their 1963 model year with small improvements each year they would never make it past 1966. Nintendo fans make is easy for them to slack, If Miyamoto made a mario marbles game and they banged it out in a weekend it would still me eaten up by the fans still trying to relive their childhood. I wish I owned Nintendo, having fans like that means I wouldn't have to try, I could just sit on my past laurels and rake in the easy cash.
Move is just amazing. I haven't been this addicted to gaming ever since I first played Tony Hawks Pro skater on the psone.. Seriously the move is just so fun and satisfying to play. Start the party is my favorite, tiger woods is also very fun and extremely accurate. Oh btw, the reviewers are full of crap. Both tiger woods and start the party got bashed by reviewers, start the party is immensely fun and my favorite move game so far and tiger woods is also very satisfying and fun. Oh and I even play the start the party by myself and I still love it. I sometimes wonder if these reviewers even bother playing some of the games they review.
Start the party is very fun - Wife and I did a 5 round party - Kids just completed a 10 rounder. I was also surprised at how fun Kung fu Rider was...contrary to most reviewers.
I first watched a demo of Sony's Move, back in 2000 at Siggraph in New Orleans. It was running on a PS2 and used the original PS2 eye toy camera. The controller was a toy baseball bat with a large foam ring around the middle that the camera could track. If I remember correctly, the bat was replaced onscreen by a mace (with chain physics) and you could smash things in a simple dungeon. I was making games for LucasFilm at the time (in their children's software division) and I remember walking away dreaming about lightsaber battles. I was surprised when Nintendo beat them to it (motion control), when internally they already had something pretty interesting so far ahead of the PS3's launch.
"MOVE took literally ten years to get to market..." Only After Nintendo did the dirty work. Lets be honest it would have ben in the closet for another 10 years if the Wii wasn't so successful.(or introduced for that matter)
Sony didn't want to risk alienating the 100 million+ PS2 owners that they wanted to sell PS3's to by changing the controller radically. The infamous 'batarang' controller and the wave of negative press over it, IMO forced Sony to retreat to the safety of the Dual-Shock design. I'm not bashing the Six-Axis because it works fine, but it couldn't be considered a leap forward in ergonomics or functionality from the previous iteration unlike the extremely comfortable 360 controller, d-pad excluded. (I own both PS3 and 360 by the way and currently use my PS3 far more than 360. Though Halo has pulled me back in.) So yes, Nintendo did the heavy lifting and without their risk taking, Sony and Microsoft would not be offering motion control today. I just posted because it really was a 10 year journey for them and not many people were probably aware of the demo I described.
Yep, if the Wii wasn't successful, they might not have taken that chance. Is there a point in there?