Among the many announcements during Sony’s TGS press conference today, one that should stand out as a milestone for the entertainment media giant is its current stance in worldwide PS3 sales.
Good numbers, great games
38 million units.
4 years, 38 mil. 38/4 = 9.5 mil a year (almost 10 mil a year) i'd say thats impressive, especially considering the horrible start it had won't be anywhere close to PS2 numbers though =/ maybe 60-80 mil lifetime (which isn't bad at all!) so as long as it doesn't UNDERSELL (like dreamcast) thus cutting support, I'm happy with the sales.
The PS3 is only now at the launch price of the PS2 and it has already sold 38 million worldwide. The PS3 has 6-8 more years of life left in it. It is going to easily pass the 100 million range. How close to the 145 million selling PS2 we won't know until the PS3 gets its drop to 200 dollars. That was when PS2 sales exploded. Edit: The PS2 is at 10.5 years now and still going strong. 12 years for the PS3 isn't much of a reach.
8 years is one hell of a stretch.
The PS3 doing PS2 range numbers is not hard to imagine. Sony just stated they will most likely hit their 15 million worldwide sales for 2010. That is 15 million while the PS3 is still 300 dollars. Doing 20 million a year when the PS3 drops to 200 dollars and then to 150 is more than plausible. Even if the PS3 only is sold for another 5 years it will reach the low 100-20 million range.
I've got just the 1 PS3, and its all I need. As long as they keep releasing great games, then i'm happy. These numbers don't matter to anyone except share holders and developers, but for me it just means the market is big and there will be plenty more games coming out.
@bjornbear We'll talk about that when the PS3 hit the $200 price tag and then @ $150 will be as huge as the PS2.... O T Great numbers... keep delivering the Best Games...
the 360 will have to sell 13million to stay in front of the ps3, if the ps3 successfully sells 15million. but until then, I'm still in school hoping the illuminati isn't part of the music industry, and I'm tyrna figure out whats my plan b if the illuminati is in the music industry.
Very good. It is also important to note that these are actual sales numbers from Sony. Not inflated shipped to retailer numbers that Microsoft uses to lie about their installed base. Back in 2006 both Sony and Nintendo switched to reporting actual sold to customer numbers. Microsoft is the only one who still lies about sales numbers by pretending their ship numbers are actual sales. So the PS3 worldwide shipment numbers are most likely around 40 million. Amazing accomplishment by Sony. The PS3 is double the price of the PS2, 100-200 dollars more than the competition, the Xbox 360 launched a year early in the US and Japan and 1.5 years early in Europe, millions and millions of duplicated replacement consoles from the RRoD and the silly old game of trying to pass off 360 shipment numbers as actual sales. And still the PS3 is about to dump the 360 into last place in worldwide sales.
so how much are they behind microsoft in terms of world wide sales, anybody know?
Sony recently restated their policy of only reporting actual console sales numbers. Not shipped to retailer numbers that Microsoft still reports. http://spong.com/article/19... ""We calculate our install base by 'sell through' and have done for the last four years I believe", we asked for a little additional clarification... "We classify 'sell through' as the number of units consumers have actually purchased from retail. 'Sell in' is the number of units we've sold to retail."" As far as I know Sony doesn't report their worldwide shipment numbers. Most estimates I've seen put the difference between worldwide sales and worldwide shipment numbers to be about 2 million. Around the holidays even larger.
How much money have you made off your Sony shares?
@jelly doesnt matter sony has been using 38 million since june they wont update them until their next quarter while microsoft usually throws out a number everytime they talk
Your post is ridiculous. Who do you think manufacturers ship their units to? Themselves? They only ship stock to retailers who ORDER the stock from them based on their NEEDS. It's not as if MS just ship 100,000 units to Walmart 'just in case'.
"Your post is ridiculous." LOL! How many 360s do you think are sitting on store shelves worldwide? How many 360s do you think are sitting in warehouses worldwide? How many 360s do you think are being shipped to various companies worldwide? My god dude, did you actually just try to claim there isn't a mulit-million unit difference between 'sold to customer' and 'sold to retailer' numbers? Did you actually just try to claim there isn't a such a large difference that both Sony and Nintendo made a huge deal over nothing back in 2006 when they made their announcements that they were switching from 'shipped to retailer' to actual 'sold to customer' numbers. LOL!
Your point is a valid one, but you must also remember that many of those shipped consoles are given away free, traded for a defect console, stolen, etc. It makes more sense to actually report sold consoles to impress the masses, and of course the shareholders.
@RedLight Ever heard of channel shtuffing? rememger that year when microsoft said they had xx million, and then half a year later it was still the same xx million?
@ Redlight ~ Microsoft has been proven/known for what is called "channel stuffing" http://kotaku.com/gaming/mi... Edit: oops skrug beat me too it (had tab open for a while and posted without prior refresh)
I distinctly remember them announcing PS3 = 38.1 million worldwide, as of the end of Q1 2010 reporting period ( June 30, 2010 ). So I think they aren't giving any more up to date number than that. They're still giving that number, because they won't release the most up to date number again until Q2 has ended. So since that was actually 2 and a half months ago, I'd say the PS3 has probably sold closer to 39 million if not more as of *right now*.
Yes. "(Reuters) - Sony Corp (6758.T) said on Thursday PS3 game console sales were on track to reach the company's target of 15 million units for the year to March 2011, with first-half sales likely just above forecast." Looks like the PS3 is selling most likely around a million a non-end of year month worldwide. So most likely the worldwide sales are in the 40 million range right now.
I think their reporting numbers from two years ago because it's obviously in Sony's interests to under-report their sales and make the foolish press think that they're doing worse than they are. Clever aren't they?
what a retarded comment, the company themselves just said they just reached 38 million and your trying to tell me that's it's more without providing any proof, deal with it, it's 38 million
How dare you call my comment "retarded." It's a *FACT* that SONY THEMSELVES reported 38.1 million on June 30, 2010. http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo... http://www.sony.net/SonyInf... There's your proof. So when they make the statement that they're at 38 million, they're repeating their Q1 financial report number. We'll get the next current number in October after Q2 has ended.
its still behind the 360 tho :p just sayin
Really? I bet if there was a way to count actual WORKING consoles in consumers hands that the PS3 would be ahead...just sayin'
Yep, you consider the number of people who have had to re-buy a 360, the PS3 clearly has more people buying them. To think that the gap is only 3 million or less with all things considered. Plus, Sony counts units sold whilst Microsoft count units shipped!
too bad Sony game division loses $890 million in 2010 ( check the google for see this) The 360 has a roughly 8.0 mill lead in North America alone. The rest of the world is much tighter. I never underestimate the yanks ability to 'Buy American'. Sony lost the North American market to a cheaper, earlier released console that simple. anyway Sony basically just killed their brand by trying to do a little too much with a video game console while MS did what Sony did with the PS2 making the 360 primarily a gaming console.
I love it when 360 fanboys like you bring up Sony's loses, "too bad Sony game division loses $890 million in 2010" explain to me , how does this affect the gamer ? has the gamer lost out ? "The 360 has a roughly 8.0 mill lead in North America alone. " guess what where not talking about NA where talking about WW wow 3 million ahead 360 is destroying the ps3, and guess what the gap is closing. "anyway Sony basically just killed their brand by trying to do a little too much with a video game console while MS did what Sony did with the PS2 making the 360 primarily a gaming console." hey did you know where not in 2007/08 ?, that phrase couldn't be more redundant, i wonder what song your gonna be singing when the ps3 eventually surpasses the 360, Thats gonna happen allot sooner than you think.
They killed their brand? Are you serious. The playstation brand is still going very strong, even in the united states
Poor xbox's fans in total denial, lying to others and themself :) check, who is afraid of the competition and lies about numbers : http://kotaku.com/gaming/mi... "That's a complete lie. VGChartz has the PS3 at 37.4 million. Sounds just about right when comparing shipped units versus sold units. The 360 is currently at 42.9 million. It managed to increase its lead by about a million due to strong sales of the new models this summer. Edit: Wow, disagreeing with facts! " another blind fanboy, talking about "shipped unit" when only microsoft is doing that ! sony has 38/40 millions unit SOLD, microsoft, 40/43 million shipped, FACT.
PLAYSTATION BRAND 15 AND STILL GOING STRONG.
Well done Sony, your almost head of Microsoft.. :O
VGC still @ 36m LOLOLOLOLOL!
That's a complete lie. VGChartz has the PS3 at 37.4 million. Sounds just about right when comparing shipped units versus sold units. The 360 is currently at 42.9 million. It managed to increase its lead by about a million due to strong sales of the new models this summer. Edit: Wow, disagreeing with facts! I guess if I want Agrees, I should just go around lying from now on. Hey, did you guys hear? Sega just announced their new console at TGS, the BoxStation 4000. I hear it will be able to play every game ever released on any console in stunning HD graphics that surpass even the capabilities of the highest-end PCs.
Problem is those 38 million PS3 sold (38.1 to be precise) are the shipped figures as of june 30, Sony probably shipped another ~1.5 million WW since then and they are still marked by VGC as having only sold 37.4 million. (-2.2 million difference) While MS was at 41.70 million as of June 30 and they're already at 42.9 according to VGC (+1.2 million difference)
Again, VG Chartz was never accurate in the first place so why are you taking their numbers as gospel? That's not facts. Sony said THEMSELVES THEY'RE AT 38.1 MILLION. Anything to bash the PS3 huh?
"Problem is those 38 million PS3 sold (38.1 to be precise) are the shipped figures as of june 30," That is not correct. Sony only reports sold to customer numbers. Not shipped like Microsoft does.
@N4PS3... You may be correct, however the problem is with your posting history. People assume everything you say is fanboy troll BS.
lol the VGChartz arent updated correctly.. the ps3 calculate sales by sell through, aka the amount of consoles purchased by consumers via stores.. not sell in which is the amount bought by stores..360 still uses the sell in method i belive.. meaning they are accounting for 360's that arent actually in consumers hands
LOL! @xAlmostPro How dumb do you have to be to try spread a lie that is the exact opposite of reality. Sony and Nintendo both report actual sales to consumers. Microsoft is the only company that lies by pretending their shipped to retailer numbers are actual sales.
Awww....you're upset because PS3 is right on the heel of ur beloved 360...
I just shows you how wrong VGC usually is...
So the actual worldwide numbers are: Sony worldwide sales: 38 million(reported by Sony) Sony worldwide shipments: ~40 million(not reported by Sony) Microsoft worldwide sales: ~40.9 million(not reported by MS) Microsoft worldwide shipments: 42.9 million(reported by MS) So the actual sales gap is around 3 million. Amazing when you think of the 66 percent failure rate generating many millions in extra sales for Microsoft and rushing their console out a year and year and half early.
What's even more amazing is how you pull figures out of your ass and call them "actual".
You know anyone can make up fictional numbers as well and call it actual, What a tard
What, you're taking VG Chartz numbers over Sony? Oh wow.
are late according to sony and wilkpedia ps3 was at 38.1 million of june 31 cant wait till see the real results next mnth
Good numbers but I really don't care if Sony MS or Nintendo sell the most consoles as long as they all keep bring out the amazing games we have been getting I will be happy as this is what being a gamer is all about.
just keep bringing the true exclusives. Thats what makes me smile
Just wait till GT5 comes out.
True, but Microsoft have released the new 360 and Halo Reach in the last few months, so I would expect the gap to widen slightly again.
most people that are buying Halo Reach already have Halo 3, The same could be said for the 360 slim ,most people that are buying the 360 slim are actually replacing there models, you could probably say the same for the ps3 slim but there was a huge increase in software purchase that was linked to the slim meaning most of the people that bought the ps3 slim were new buyers, not the same with the 360S, and besides the 360 slim has been out for like 2 months yet the gap hasn't gotten any bigger, when the PS3 slim was released the gap shrank to about 5 million in its 1st week. If anything the gap is shrinking
Just curious, how do you know that "the gap hasn't gotten any bigger" ? And how do you know that people who want GT5 don't also already have their PS3 ? I mean waiting 4 years just for one game... that's pushing it. I have a hard time picturing these people still playing on PS2 just cause GT5 isn't out yet, I'm sure most of them are already enjoying GT5 prologue among other games.
how do i know the gap the gap hasn't gotten any bigger ? well look at the statistics the 360S impact is nowhere near as big as that of the PS3 slim, and seeing as its been out for like 2 months, you would expect the gap to be allot bigger than it is now, if anything its been closing, btw i never really said anything about GT5
"well look at the statistics the 360S impact is nowhere near as big as that of the PS3 slim" - ico92 Your "statistics" are inaccuate: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
exactly, gt5 is gonna sell boatloads. The majority of the people who are buying Reach already have a 360.
Very good. but that was known for a while. a price drop and boom.
Nice job Sony. :3
Good work Sony. I'll be buying a PS3 in a month, so add one number more to those sales, lol
Everybody knows that since G3 360 is unstoppable and now with reach out.............so if the PS3 is 38 millions 360 must be at this time like 45 to 46 millions. Wait and see... It is not possible that any console in this generation stated with us for 8 years more or even 6 more is difficult because the tech is updating his self faster and faster by years pass so after Nintendo announce a new console next year Microsoft will fallow and Sony won't make the same mistake as before i hope. So i give 3 years to Sony to have a new console, 2 for Microsoft and 1 for Nintendo.
Hilarious. The 360 is in last place in 2 out of the 3 major console regions(Japan and Europe) and it is soon to be dumped into last place in worldwide installed base by Sony and the PS3. Yeah, 'unstoppable'...LOL!
Since E3 the 360 out sold the PS3 in almost every region including this two you just said. Document your self before post......hu! Worldwide Software Totals Console Weekly (change) Total (tie ratio) Wii 1,926,701 (+19%) 510,989,196 ( 6.92) X360 1,235,508 (-7%) 373,803, 272 (8.71) DS 1,129,407 (+1%) 572,621,526 (4 .28) PS3 1,094,392 (-8%) 264,772,237 (7 .07) PSP 537,936 (-26%) 1... #1.1.8 This is week after week after E3
Just lol. Dude, just accept the fact that the PS3 is catching up and fast. No amount of spinning will change that.
Well would you look at that, today numbers are ok to talk about. No " I don't own stock" or anything like that. The power of the ps3 numbers, the only numbers you can talk about. /s
So M$ says they've sold 42mill and you believe it. Sony says they've sold 38mill in June and it's now September and you call that lie. M$ got lying about their numbers before, not Sony. Why don't you change your name to 360fanboy?
I've never seen so many people unable to see the wood for the tree's, do all of you have shares in sony? Sony release something must be true, so bash MS, honestly who gives a shit if it wasn't for the 360 we'd still be waiting for the ps3
by my eyes vgchart is on the money