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Submitted by kingboy 3096d ago | rumor

Second Ps3 Starter Pack Planned?

Following the successful PlayStation 3 starter pack containing a ps3 console, Resistance Fall of Man, MotorStorm and two Sixaxis, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe intends to renew the experiment with a second Pack planned for September 19 at the cost of 599.99 euros. This new pack will contain a PS3 ,2 sixaxis controllers and two new additional games as well ,namely Heavenly Sword and Formula One.Stay tune for an official conformation maybe at next weeks Leipzig Games Convention in Germany... (Formula One Championship Edition, Heavenly Sword, MotorStorm, PS3, Resistance: Fall of Man)

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alexander22rednaxela  +   3097d ago
Why not just drop the price in stead, so the consumer can deside for him self what games to by and some peoples does not even need a second controller?

Some consumers only want the blu-ray player.
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doshey  +   3097d ago
well if that is the case then sony should just make a 500 unit coming with a hdmi cord 2 blu ray movies
ALI-G  +   3096d ago
i totalLy agree with you
PRICE CUT is what i am waiting for.
none of these two games interest me plus none of them support 2 players so why not cut the price instead of putting another controller
they should do what microsoft do in retailers , they sell console + games of your choice for certain amount £ so you chose the bumdle you what about the people who are not 18 yet ? or want to buy specfic game , they will have to throw another 40£.
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Mr VideoGames  +   3096d ago
this Console hasn't even been out that Long and it's already on its Second Starter pack, but even i have to Admit getting 2 Controllers and 2 games is a GREAT DEAL but thats not the Point why are they already trying to increase the Value of this Thing im sure when games come out people will Buy i mean i think people see the Value in it but no one wants one cause they don't have any Killer Apps or Good Titles on it Right now, and it doesn't Exactly make them look good right now when the start Bundling one of there Best Titles out right now "heavenly Sword" but i didn't like it but you know still doesn't look good
SonyDefenseForce  +   3096d ago
doesn't look good at all
especially for the Game Title, getting it free is not a good way to say "this a killer Game" this might hurt the PS3 by telling Consumers the System isn't doing very we'll
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Rageanitus  +   3096d ago
They are still making a big loss on t he hardware itself when selling at this price.
-_-_-_-_-_-_-  +   3096d ago
I've bought the starter pack (motorstorm and resistance) and I can tell you it's a very good deal! Those are very good games and you get an extra controller.

@ALI-G, you're wrong, Resistance can be played in two player coop, I should know, I play it with my friend every day. And some PSN games are 2P. EG. Nucleus.

I really don't get it, why do you people can't see this starter pack is a great deal? Two games and a joypad are worth more than 100EUR! 170EUR in my country.
astroboy2k5  +   3096d ago
Who cares what games you get in the bundle. If you dont like the games dont open them and return them for store credit.
QuackPot  +   3096d ago
Sony is likely still making losses on every console sold.
They need to reduce those losses by keeping the price high.

They also need to get rid of old SKUs and replace them with the newly manufactured SKUs which hopefully have benefited from cheaper production costs. Least we forget that the rumble controller will be returning soon so they also need to get rid of all the non-rumble controllers.

This is merely the calm before the storm. Or preparing the ground for something big this Christmas. Price drop & Rumble? Fingers crossed.
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thereapersson  +   3096d ago
This is turning into the Sega Saturn situation all over again!

edit: i should elaborate because some of you guys don't know how to look back into the past and see that Sega also offered games packaged with the Saturn as "value packs". That's all I was referring to; no negativity against the PS3's sales or anything like that.
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Real Gambler  +   3096d ago
Not sure what you mean... Could you please explain a little?
As the title said...
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Mu5afir  +   3096d ago
The Ps1 and Ps2 also had value packs, the 360 had value packs 6 months into it's life span. And if you do remember the Wii is essentially a value pack, since it comes with Wii Play already included.
Mattguy  +   3096d ago
Putting resistance in the pack is what they should have done from the very start-nothing on the ps3 beats resistance(currently) And putting a second controller is smart because every one owning resistance has a buddy wanting to play co-op garunteed. They just have to make sure that they leave the normal non-starter pack ps3's out there because like many have already pointed out theres people who might just want the cheap blu-ray.
Mr VideoGames  +   3096d ago
many Movie Fanatics just want the Cheap Blu-Ray yes
My Grampa bought a PS3 just to watch movies on it lol
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Real Gambler  +   3096d ago
You have to love 360 fanboy... Read slowly next time....
He said "nothing on the ps3 beats resistance(currently) " Not nothing on every consoles beat Resistance!!!!

Personally, Motorstorm is definitively up there as well with Resistance, so HS and Motorstorm may have been a better choice!...

Guess they had too many F1 on the shelf... : )
alexander22rednaxela  +   3096d ago
Oblivion got higher scores than RestiFOM.
thereapersson  +   3096d ago
@ real gambler
Uh, I read the article. I was mainly referring to the fact that the Saturn came with games packaged in with it as a "value pack" back in the day.

And 360 fanboy? Yeah, kind of hard to be one of those when the only next-gen system I own is the PS3...

edit: no problem d00d. Just like to keep things legit and real, ya know?
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Real Gambler  +   3096d ago
Very sorry reapersson, my absolute mistake...
The fanboy comment was for the next fellow, not you! I edited it. Very stupid mistake, simply hit the wrong reply button.

Back to the subject, I'm not too keen either about "value pack" either, but was simply curious about the Sega Saturn comment. I believe pretty much every consoles ever sold had one "value pack" at least in their life, so I wasn't sure if you meant it was bad for Sega or not.

Curiously yours, and sorry again for the wrong comment!
Salvadore  +   3096d ago
They should release a starterpacker with Warhawk with Rachet/clank.
ALI-G  +   3096d ago
I AGREE 10000%
because this will make the pack accessible by more people,
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Salvadore  +   3096d ago
totally understood my idea
You have 2 games, one accessible for children and another one accessible for the mature audience.
DEADEND  +   3096d ago
They should bundle the PS3 with SINGSTAR it would sale really well out in Europe. I know for a fact tons of people are going to buy a PS3 just for SINGSTAR out in Europe, its one of the biggest games for SONY in Europe(i know 360 fanboys are going to hate me and disagree with me like crazy but almost its just as HALO out there) people who don't play games bought a PS2 just for SINGSTAR out in Europe.
PS3rd place  +   3096d ago
Because I'm in 3rd place
I will now come in a new starter pack.

why? because I don't offer anything to gamers.
I only offer to HD video fans.

I don't sell very well when I have no game to come with.

people only see me as blu-ray player which only old folks use.
Now that I am comming with a game like RFOM, people will see that I am a gaming system. Hopefully it is not too late.

Because I'm in 3rd place and only realizing this now.
BubblesDAVERAGE  +   3096d ago
If you wanna get technicall
Sony is still in first place with the ps2.ps3, and psp....LOSER..and MS would be in third
thereapersson  +   3096d ago
You know what shows even more "desperation" than these value packs?
Pointless fanboy gimmicks like you who only serve to suck up bandwidth and add nothing positive to any discussion.

Welcome to n4g: This is ignoring.
PS3rd place  +   3096d ago
Xbox owner.
Shoot this guys bubbles down.
Chemical  +   3096d ago
just did.
i wonder how the new bubbles system works now.

I'm just shooting his bubbles to see how the system works now.
Everybody shoot.
Double-Edged  +   3096d ago
yeah... i'm shooting too.
sorry thereapersson ....

I just wanna see what happens.

shoot people!!
beavis4play  +   3096d ago
i'll tell you what's more desperate
microsoft currently having 4 different x360s' out now because they don't know what combination of features to use. but they can still get more desperate-they haven't decided to go with BR yet.
thereapersson  +   3096d ago
A gimmick posts useless BS and i'm getting punished for it?

Whatever... shoot away. I haven't done anything bad, so you're attacking me for nothing.
PS3rd place  +   3096d ago
ofcourse I'm a gimmick!
Contra26  +   3096d ago
PS3... your a gimmick.
cartman313  +   3096d ago
@ thereapersson - Don't worry man, plus bubbles for you.
Yosking  +   3096d ago
yeah theyy shouldn't bundle games...
let retail stores offer those deals, sony should just sell the system on its own with a lower priceand if they want to add something throw in an HDMI cable.
rock on ps3!
DEADEND  +   3096d ago
Its just a bundle its not like all they're going to do is sell the bundle, they will sell the system as a stand alone as well and i'm pretty sure that the 80gb will be dropped down to $500 this holiday.
PS-Wii-60  +   3096d ago
Nice! But, Sony should change the name from Starter Pack
to Value Pack, 'cause that's exactly what it is.

However, I am a little confused (and very disappointed) that they are not shipping headsets with every system.
The "virtual" explosion that will be HOME is coming this fall.
Headsets being used by everyone would complete the experience making it more immersive and much easier to communicate. It seems to me a necessity and only makes sense to ensure everybody has one.
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thereapersson  +   3096d ago
I agree
Hopefully this Warhawk / headset package shows to Sony that more people want a headset than they think
tfur  +   3096d ago
Sony's decision
I was Sony's decision to bundle a headset with WarHawk. At least that is what the dev said on Gametrailers...
PS-Wii-60  +   3096d ago
@ reapersson, Good point
There was a poll a coupla weeks back concerning which version of Warhawk people were more interested in.
The final results showed 72% for retail over PSN DL.

When asked, most people will cite the included headset as being the major reason for their personal decision.

Sony has had some blunders with PR for PS3 but, one of their strengths has been listening to consumer feedback and giving them what they want (and in a short time)
I'm sure Sony will fix this glaring omission some time soon.

It's definitely a good start as it seems a large percentage of PS3 owners are going to get Warhawk. However, it still won't reach everyone.
If Sony truly feels this way, I have to think an even better decision would be to simply ship it with consoles. It would completely blanket their total user base from that point forward.
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Bnet343  +   3096d ago
How about
release the PS3 at $399 or less so I can buy it already?
tk  +   3096d ago
It worked
Sales jumped with the first value pack. Since many are waiting for HS, why not score with the value pack? The PS2 had those as well - and it worked then too. There was a GT4 value pack, a MGS2 value pack. Could be that it was just in store promotions, but it offers good value. The XB360 had bundles as well. The PS3 value pack is great value.

Funny that at the moment the kids play a lot of PS2 games on it - R&C, Star Wars, Lego Star Wars etc. The Euro model with SW BC is great. I cannot point at any game in my around 40 PS2 games collection that does not work. They load faster, better frame rates in general.

If you don't have a PS3 yet, get one. The one thing that amazes me is the quality of the BR disks. Not a hint of a scratch or wear on them. And the PS3 reader seems very good quality. Many of the PS2 games that the PS2 could not read anymore works perfectly. For a PS2 owner that wants to migrate, get a PS3. Great new games, and BC that works with basically all the PS2 titles. Event the ones that I checked on the web site that is marked as having issues works perfectly. This is with firmware 1.90.
cartman313  +   3096d ago
I love the Blu-Ray disc and their resistance to scratches.
DEADEND  +   3096d ago
To kigmal
they can't have another big price cut again i guess your just gonna have to wait till early next year Q2 for that price cut you want, but the 80gb will be $500 for the holiday session so thats something.
Bloodmask  +   3096d ago
They should
bundle it with a 360 so people could actually get games.
thereapersson  +   3096d ago
Or they could just bundle it WITH GAMES like they are doing...

cartman313  +   3096d ago
Hehe, that was actually funny. Very true too. I have 6 ps3 games, I am now bored of them and have been buying ps2 games and lots of Blu-ray movies. One more month though, and it's all over.
cartman313  +   3096d ago
oops double post :/
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kalistyles  +   3096d ago
They should...
bundle it with a 3 year warranty in case it breaks like the 360. Oh wait a minute they dont have to cause it doesnt break. LOL!
doshey  +   3096d ago
that was funny
Apocalypse Shadow  +   3096d ago
most of you aren't getting sony's strategy of phasing out the 60gig system.
the ps3 system is already lower in price in japan.and games like hot shots are helping phase out the 60gig there.

korea got the 80gig right off the need to phase out anything.

in america,sony released the 80gig and dropped the price of the 60gig to $499.and what happened?gamers bought the 60gig and got the 5 free bluray movies.

but in europe,the system hasn't been out as long as america or has to figure out a way of phasing out the 60gig there.they could drop the price.but if you give them the same system with 2 games and 2 controllers,that's fair.i didn't get 2 games or 2 controllers from sony nov. 17 2006.

once all 60gigs are gone,you can introduce the 80gig as standard and have a $499us or 499euros or less worldwide.then if you want to upgrade your drive,then hey,it's on you.but 80gigs should be enough for any gamer for awhile and sony loses no money changing from 60 to 80.and the gamers benefit from NOT having to PAY more just for 20gigs more,an extra controller and 2 games.

win for for gamers.any ps3 bundle for the same price is a good deal.

......................mag lev super train......................... .
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DEADEND  +   3096d ago
How can you and I realize that but no one else can. Great minds think a like I guess but your right about what you just said and to top it all off in Q2 08 theres going to be a price cut but people just don't see it that way. All they say is that they want another price cut, look how long it took MS to give one and their complaining about SONY lol thats stupid.
timmyp53  +   3096d ago
nice bundle
Fighter  +   3096d ago
EUR and Australia need a price drop
All my friends in Europe are still playing the first X-box but they don't want a PS3 because of the outrageous price. I think it has to do with the European Union because the console is probably getting taxed like hell and the price conversion from USD to Euros or Pounds don't make sense at all. Sony needs to give them a good price cut if the taxes are not the issue.

Australia needs a price cut too because it seems like only the very rich can afford the console over there. When the 360 is almost the same price as the Wii then that is not a good sign for Sony at all.
Anything but Cute  +   3096d ago
I think this is good news, and that's it.
Sony is doing whatever it needs to do to sell consoles, since they don't have a super killer ap like Halo 3 yet. It's no secret Sony came out slow this gen with few intresting games and overpriced hardware. They're trying to fix things.

Heavenly Sword is a great idea since it looks like the best of the Sony first party games coming this year.

As far as people saying this is a bad idea and gives the message that PS3 isn't doing so well. Yeah sure... when they cut the price in the United States that's what everyone thought and no one bought it huh?

I do agree however that a price cut is better than value packs, and I'm sure Sony's last resort would be another price cut if things get too bad. But expect value packs and things like that from Sony all year long since they have to keep up with the cheaper XBOX 360 with it's best games coming this year.
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Ashira  +   3096d ago
Oh no...
Not another starter pack.
Give us a break. No packs, just price cuts. Don't want any of 'em bundles.
Funky Town_TX  +   3096d ago
I don't care
if Sony is loosing money. I just want a PS3 at a good price/deal..

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