Disappointment for a long time Vista supporter.
I always wait for 1 to 2 years before upgrading to new versions of Windows but this time it looks like I'm gonna have to wait a bit longer.
Monopolies and subsidies can breed inferior products. MS is the biggest recipient of government subsidies in the US today (See Auto industry as a past example with horrible consequences), maybe this has made them lazy and now the public becoming more aware of the flaws of their products. This could be the opportunity Linux needs.
Then again, maybe it just needs more time to catch on, but I say its good for a company like MS to be called to task every once in a while. Keeps them honest.
I still use XP because necessary for my VS2005 and Vista isn't in my plans, Linux move is granted.
Funny how MS makes XP and it's great; they make the original XBOX and it's great. They come out with Vista and it's utterly unbearable, and they release the 360 and it crashes left and right.
I guess this round just isn't for Microsoft; maybe next time?
XP was far from great when it was released. I had numerous blue screens of death and all kinds of cr*p
"Then again, maybe it just needs more time to catch on, but I say its good for a company like MS to be called to task every once in a while. Keeps them honest."
I agree MS certainly needs that whack in the back once every while.
"[VS2005] and Vista isn't in my plans, [Linux] move is granted."
looks like a contradiction unless you use VS2005 for basic stuff(in which case VS2005 Vista specific patch for SP1 was released some months back). Good if you do move to Linux, linux deserves more attention for sure.
i purchased Vista. 95% installed it. PC crashed. Sold Vista. Reinstalled XP.
Complete waste of my time.
really you bought one for 200-300 bucks and gave up in one install? I hope you returned it instead of selling it as it wouldn't have sold for much
yeah darth that seems odd. he spends 200+ dollars and gives up after the first problem? lol seems fake to me.
actually it was an upgrade. i bought it off ebay $100
PanixATK tried installing it more than just once. each time it bowled out at 95%.
personally i reckon a nerd in his bedroom could create a better operating system.
dont buy vista.
Excuse any typos that you might encounter (i.e. Long Time vs. Longtime). Its my first successful news article and I was unable to make the proper corrections in time. Thanks to everyone who approved this article.
I installed vista and have not issues to date.
I am a happy vista customer, but there's no real incentive to upgrade yet unless you want a slicker looking desktop. I've only had problems installing some older games, though those were fairly easily overcome and I got them running without too much trouble.
"MacNN caught this incredible defection and loss of faith by a former Vista booster, PC Magazine editor-in-chief Jim Louderback, as he steps down from his position.
"I've been a big proponent of the new OS over the past few months, even going so far as loading it onto most of my computers and spending hours tweaking and optimizing it. So why, nine months after launch, am I so frustrated? The litany of what doesn't work and what still frustrates me stretches on endlessly. The upshot is that even after nine months, Vista just ain't cutting it. I definitely gave Microsoft too much of a free pass on this operating system: I expected it to get the kinks worked out more quickly. Boy, was I fooled! If Microsoft can't get Vista working, I might just do the unthinkable: I might move to Linux."
If you cannot see threw that BS then you are truly hopeless. My fingers have been tapping on all the OP from the begining and I know a Linux shout out when I see one. Why cant these guys just be honest for a f**king change and just be up front about their choice why hide devious little subliminal tid bits and the big obvious at the end. Here it's not hard why dont you just say which one you love and argue your case from there.
As usual you missed the point in that statement.
Contrary to your MS loving ideas that he PRAISED Linux, he actually flamed it.
HE simply said that if MS was not able to provide an OS that works and is rather easy to manage and run in a home network, than he could as well use the hard to manage and ever complicated to set up Linux. Cause as of now Linux was the one to laugh at regarding stuff like sleep mode breakdowns and incompatibility of drivers that drove "Linux supporters" nuts when trying to run it on ANY form of up to date hardware.
So NO, he does not like Linux, he just thinks that Vista manages to frustrate him as much as Linux always did, and thats not good.
I support clients with both linux and Windows systems, and i won't use Linux as my primary desktop any time soon, cause it just does not work that well. Also games hardly ever work on Linux without much setup pains. Same with hardware. Want a scanner for your system? With Windows (XP) you go to any hardware store, grab any scanner and there you go. With Linux you better waste several hours surfing the net finding an usb scanner that actually WORKS with Linux, and then you will have lotsa fun setting it up cause it always needs some deep system editing to get it working.
Bottom line: he thinks Linux is a PAIN to work with in any non server related surrounding, and Vista manages to get to the same bad level as that, which he thinks is bad.
I didn't praise Windows or am I fanboy (I'm an Xbox Fanboy, big differance) you just assumed it, I was attacking his dishonest methods I didn't hate on anything "this time" and yes he was giving a shout out to Linux, your just trying to spin the obvious.
Then explain why a PC HAS to have a fast dual-core CPU, at least 2GB of RAM, and a 7200RPM drive with a large cache just to run Vista at an acceptable speed?
Heaven forbid you install it (or get it pre-installed) on a laptop with only 1GB of RAM and a 5400RPM hard drive. The OS itself will run OK, but when you start running Office 2007 apps, and have a few browser windows open, watch the speed drop of significantly.
Do the same tasks on the same hardware, but running XP... You get a MUCH better experience.
Microsoft had better remember that business PC's make up a HUGE portion of their market share. Businesses are far more likely to be buying new PC's on a regular basis than end-users (other than enthusiasts, but they make up a SMALL portion of the market).
And right now, Vista is NOT ready for business...
Windows is for gaming, like I said I use everything I'm just honest about it and I don't need to be devious and sly about my choice. If you like Windows, Linux or Lindows then tell me don't give me a buch of sh!t about how you hate this and try and play fair as your discretely pushing somthing else. Otherwise your doing more harm to the thing your pushing rather than help it.
my pc cannot run any vista version. well maybe the premium, but I'm happy
iT workZ finE, aint ani bEtteR than the XP tho.... butt nO, I woUld noT wAnt the Vista just for PC gAmes. not Yet anyway. hop3 fully nev3r.
- Me too. Im sorry about the typo. I sucx at words.
This is Microsoft for you!
Develop OS for 10 years, test 1 month, release. Buggy as no tomorrow.
That applies to pretty much any microsoft product. And they claim they release quality software? Have a certain quality standard? No way in hell!
I'll stay with XP till the Vista Alpha and Beta test stages are done.
From past experience with ME and 2K that will take about 2 Years or 2 SP's
XP was useless before SP2, Vista will be useless till SP2. And in late 2009 i will buy myself the final retail version of Vista, knowing that a bunch of poor retards ran the betatests for me cause MS as usual dropped unfinished stuff in their lap.
Ain't it cute? The editor of one of the mags left in the rumored soon to be bankrupt ZiffDavis empire abandons the sinking ship. And as an excuse he writes some random stuff including his vista rant (well deserved, Vista suxx right now). The story between the lines is that the ZD empire is going down, and the head honchos know it, hence they drop out before its on the bottom of the ocean.
coundnt be happier with it,
connected my printer. it automatically looked for drivers over the net and installed them, which was great because i coundnt find the disc it came with
everything looks better, loads faster, and security is better
Sure a few things don't work properly when loading older software but XP was the same way for a few years. If there are a lot of programs you use that haven't worked out the Vista bugs then best not to switch until they get there [email protected]
Some people make the mistake to install Vista on a machine that is to old and not up to the standards Vista demands. Like my friend, he bought Vista to load on a older PC, I now have his copy and I found him a deal on a new Dell computer that was made for Vista and he loves it.
linux, all the way! all linux lacks right now is major game support. once they get that, they will be unstoppable.
yet it sold 60 million copies. That just boggles my mind. I'm sticking to XP for the next 2-3 years.
Three letters explain it all... OEM
What would be interesting is to see how Vista sales break down between retail sales, and OEM sales (to be installed on new PC's).
Personally, I'm sticking with Dell for new PC's for my workplace. At least Dell will give you the choice between Vista and XP on new PC's.
Don't use until Service Pack 2. That is true for all their OS history.
Find the config.sys
That should help
but just like any OS it needs to be built even after the release, they are all like that. Name one OS that from the begining and don't exclude anyone, that doesn't have to patch or update after its release.
IMO I think the guys involved with Linux need to start selling Linux, they been doing that whole "free" thing to compete with MS for far to long. They have enough of a userbase to start making some money for themselves, besides it would give those "freedom! freedom! freedom!" shouting programmers somthing new to do or build (another OS perhaps).
Vista is bloatware. I installed the Ultimate without license key so got a 30 day usage for it. On clean install it gobbles up almost 1gb of my total 2gb ram. Luckily my pc config is fast enough so it runs at the highest settings and the score was like 5 or so. Anyway have xp pro on the other partition so hardly ever go back to vista which incidently is still showing 30 days left after 6 months, dont ask me how ;) But there is no need to run vista, the SLI doesnt work for my 7950GX2 which is a single SLI card and neither does the coolbits patch to enable overclocking panel in vista. So my BF2142 runs at 60-70fps rather than 90-100+ fps on xp.
I can honestly say that Microsoft's XP has worked pretty damn smooth for me save a few hiccups here and there -- and from the looks of things; it's going to remain that way for the foreseeable future.
Vista uses a lot of memory for caching things (to make things faster!). However, should applications need that memory, Vista will part for it, for the applications' sake. Bloat perhaps, but not too much in the memory department as you suggest.
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