VG247: "Kinect chief Kudo Tsunoda has told VG247 that 360’s incoming motion tech could only work on the Microsoft hardware."
Dear M$, Instead of just saying it, show us. Kinect has yet to show one single thing that hasn't already been done on Eyetoy, Eye, and that Xbox 360 camera that everyone has conveniently forgotten.
Ok. Show me: -a driving game like how joy ride is played -a dancing game which tracks both your hands and feet for real dance move not just dance crap -3D tracking All done on the Eyetoy.
show me the games,good ones
forza 4. not been done on eyetoy. dance central not been done , star wars not been done. and theres more to come
@Omega "a driving game like how joy ride is played" Can't show you one, because no one else is stupid enough to make a racing game with no gas or break petals. "a dancing game which tracks both your hands and feet for real dance move not just dance crap" Are you a 12 year old girl? if not, you should not be hyping this. If they made a game about putting on virtual jewelry would you be hyping that too? I mean, no one else has a jewelry game. "3D tracking" Correct. This is THE feature Kinect has that no one else has. But I haven't seen it put to good use, or seen a demo showing how precise the 3D tracking is.
Doesnt the PS eye 3d track the move controller correct me if Im wrong.
@Omega "a driving game like how joy ride is played" Thats the game that doesn't work at all. I have seen people play it and there is a problem with turning. I light movement the car doesn't turn and a heavier turn spins the car.
Yes, the PS eye 3d tracks the move controller. But I was referring to the camera being able to track everything in 3D on its own. For example, Kinect (in theory) could track a foot kick and know if you kicked forward or backward. But, I still haven't seen this full 3D tracking put to good use in a Kinect game yet.
On-rail crap, waggle-waggle-dancing and stroking virtual cats don't count as real games, so keep up with hype, I want to see the faces of the people when they realize how lame is this "unique" device...
PS Eye is a 2D camera. It can not track in 3D, but the way PS Move works is it tracks the size of the ball on the PS Move wand. The system knows the physical size of the glowing ball and hence can determine your distance based on it's size. The further away you are, the smaller the ball will appear to the camera. PS Move's ability to track in the depth (i.e. 3rd dimension) is about 1 cm increments, close to around one third to to half an inch. Kinect works by getting a topography map if you will of the entire room (or whatever is visible to Kinect). From then it is all software to try and figure out what is what. The software part is the most difficult part of the technology.
3D tracking ??? ROFL we haven't even seen a tech demo using it ... thankfully M$ were so happy to show me xbox play , xbox pause and xbox rewind such powerfull features !! Thank god /s
Then Sony needs to re-release those Eyetoy games, next week with the move, to show up M$ as a bunch of copier with nothing new. But they will not because, they cant! The closes thing they have to a Kinect game is "Kung-fu Live". To be frank and honest, that game sucks Monkey Balls. It is a 2D side stroller, where you fight from side to side, all the while trying to peep at the TV over your shoulder. Lights out with the move is the best bet for comparison, and that uses the Move and you can not use your legs. So it seems to me Kudo is right. Show me the games: Sonic Rider (where you throw projectile at those ahead of you) Kinect sports (boxing, bowling and vollyball. All played with nothing in your hands) Dance Central (this and you shap fitness grade you on full body tracking. Not even Kinect version of DDR could be done on PSeye) Joy Ride (where you lean back and forward to do tricks and speed boost, will require the move in your hand to work) They are just some quick examples. I am sure I missed more, but thats enough.
He's right these kinds of features can't be reproduced on any other hardware. Only with Kinect and Xbox 360. look at how empty the MS store is LMAO! http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Ever wonder what the bottom of bullsh*t looks like... BAM THERE IT IS!
Omega is a MS employee. No joke.
I'm not trying to defend Kinect or Omega but seriously, if someone says prove this can do that. Don't reply back with stupid ass comments like "Can't show you one, because no one is stupid enough to make it". People make stupid games all the time, there's tons of them on PSN and XBL. If someone says prove something, fucking do it, or take your "Kinect, fails hehhe" comments else where. If you don't like Kinects games more power to you, don't buy them, that's what I'm doing, but other people will. Kinect has done stuff the Eyetoy can't and hasn't, it's not a big deal, especially when 99% of people on this site say how shitty it is. I can understand bashing something a few times for not liking it, but seriously I've been hearing the same rehashed comments since E3, and its fucking pathetic.
@T9X69 You're right, if no one has done it before, it must because they lack innovation and skills. Surely Sony lacked the skill to make a racing game where you barely control the car, that is why they haven't done it. /s Omega's point was that nothing like that had been done before. My point was that there is a good reason for that. Nintendo could have made Mario Kart work by just tilting the wiimote, but they didn't. Guess why they didn't.
"Show me: -a driving game like how joy ride is played" How about I show you something better? A driving game that's not on rail, and is actually responsive, where you can actually drive, accerate, brake, etc. Games like Burn Out, GT5, NFS, and every other racing game. "-a dancing game which tracks both your hands and feet for real dance move not just dance crap" Just go clubbing, dude. Clubbing = $10 to get in. Kinect + Dancing game = $200. -3D tracking" PS3 Move does 3D tracking already. And it's very accurate at it. PS3 Move + 3D HDTV = Ultimate Immersion!!!
“At the end of the day it’s funny to me. Those people really haven’t played with any of the Kinect technology, and I just think that as people see something completely unique that we’re doing on Xbox, not only with the full-body gesture stuff, but with the voice and the human recognition system, those are things that really can’t be done on any other console, or in any other medium.” fine then show us a game that cant b done on the eye jus one... thought so.
"...but with the voice and the human recognition system, those are things that really can’t be done on any other console, or in any other medium." Voice and human recognition is completely possible (and already accomplished) with the PSEye. There's YouTube videos. I'm on way out the door so you'll have to find them yourself if you don't believe me. But it's true.
Aaron Greenberg's apprentice. Just a typical MS employee.
They are right. Kinect can't be done on any other consoles - BECAUSE THEY REJECTED IT.
I was about to state the same, Kinect® can't be done on any other console [because they rejected the tech] [oh also, we bought the company/tech.. Because of that too] BAM, Baby! >X^D)
NICe HAHA! Put it this way, I hate Kinect that its only for kids, which is bullshit! It shows microsoft forgetting about the people that made their game division thrive. Whatever, we'll see it might be cool down the road. Likely not since it'll be tagged a kids toy. Oh well, Microsoft; please hire proper management--its destroying your company.
I'm led to believe that Kudo is full-on delusional. Living in his own little dreamworld where he can say whatever he pleases, yet never has to prove his claims. Unfortunately for him anybody who actually looks critically at Kinect quickly sees not only where he is stretching the truth, but also where he is flat out lying.
LoL invisible steering wheel. Kinect=Charades (As of right now anyway)
... well thats because Kinect isn't on any other console...for one and secondly. Yes, everything we've seen so far can be done on other consoles...*looks at eyetoy/pc*
Man this guy is sick in his head. It's something wrong with this nutcase. I can tell you this he must be getting paid alot of money to be running he's mouth like this.
Look at the video before you disagree.. :) http://www.youtube.com/watc...
You WIN! Wat a nice a....
No other company would allow a dysfunctional control interface on their console and then advertise it using faked video clips of various functions it cannot actually do.
the FAIL feature can't be done on any other console. By the way the PSeye can't do 3D tracking? hmmmm. So the Move's 3-D tracking isn't really being done???
ok now this kudo guy i am intrested in the kinect and all but to say this is just pure bs.. come on the was an article a few months ago with guys working on a kinect-like camera and they said its much better than kinect faster and all and they will adopt it to work with 360 ps3 and pc.. that alone does make kinect abit of a ripoff.
Microsoft sounds like Sony... stupid.
eh its the same as Sony saying Uncharted could only be done on Ps3....they own the tech. I'm sure if kinect was made for Ps3 it would work just as well (maybe better if it was programmed around the CELL), but since MS own the tech it won't happen.
Kinect is USB connected. I'm 100% sure someone will make the drivers necessary to use it on PC. You can use the PSEye on PC and it is one hell of a webcam for that cheap a price.
Remember, Sony AND Nintendo passed on Kinect for a reason.
These features are...? It'd be nice instead of just saying how amazing it is you'd say why it's AMAZING! '“It’s not like we bring people working on Sony Move into the Microsoft offices and say, ‘Hey, wouldn’t you like to check out Kinect?’ And, ‘Let’s do some kind of precision test between Move and Kinect.’' BECAUSE MOVE WILL WIN!
“really can’t be done on any other console” That's because it's only available for one console. The PS3's processing power could handle 3 Kinects all connected to one PS3 at the same time. About 99% of Kinects features has nothing to do with the 360 either, it has to do with the cameras built in technology.
So tell us Kudo, Why do you always wear women's designer sunglasses?
I am surprised he is the face of kinect (in a way)....... he always looks spaced out and odd and I thought a industry like Microsoft would put someone either appeals to the core audience so they could relate to him or some one presentable....Maybe he is actually good at his job for Microsoft to hire him because I can't think of any other reason
If I recall correctly somebody said he has a problem with his eyes, brightness really bothers him. If that's not true then the only other explanation is that he's a total douche.
That explains sunglasses. But why are they WOMAN'S sunglasses?
Dialated pupils, from his morning pick-me-ups, I'm thinking.
That's a relief.
PS3 fanboys, you just gotta' love em'. Bringing up off topic discussions and other BS statements. I <3 You guys /s
And your gift to the discussion is what? You should buy 7 Kinects. You deserve them.
Ballmer is kinda whacked out crazy,.. but dude ,.. seriously need to fire this guy,.. I would not send him for a loaf of bread,.. Guys at ms must be snorting some serious shit all day everyday,.. to employ this retard,..
to sew this guys lips together. i'm tired of them flappin in the breeze.
Microsoft is so pathetic sometimes...
If HOME, 3D GAMING , and free internet was on the xbox, the XBOX people would claim victory in the game wars..... IM glad it couldnt be done on any other console....... 1 ruined technology is enough...
Yes they can... and it's called the PS2... or PS3... or just about any other console with a camera.
I can't stop laughing.
Neither can I. I'm starting to become worried. It's been going on for 2 days now. I think I may have to see a doctor.
I'm still waiting for Microsoft to say, "OK OK OK OK, it's not worth buying for $150. Here's a lower price."
I'll never buy a game that is: a) shovelware b) featuring Avatars That's most of what Kinect has. The dancing and fitness game look very accurate and I doubt they could be done to that level without Kinect, but is that really the best Kinect can do? I wouldn't pay sixty dollars for either of those games and I definitely won't buy a hundred and fifty dollar add-on to go with them. My Xbox 360 will never have the dishonor of being penetrated by Kinect. The only way Kinect has a shot is if someone really does release a mind controller, I've seen used on Half Life 2. Then you could walk with your mind and interact with Kinect. Doubt it will ever happen.
KUNG...FU...LIVE! Now what was it you were saying Mr. Tsunoda? Your laundry list of crap from the likes of the 3DO Company are not doing anything to sway my opinion of this "dated" tech.
Semantics are funny. Kudo is just saying that Kinect was built (well, modified from the much better original Tel Aviv work) for the Xbox 360. Kinect wouldn't work on any other console in the same way that Wii-motes won't work on the PS3, or how Blu-Ray discs won't work on the Xbox 360 (and isn't that a bit more important?). Unfortunately, he doesn't need any tech specs to back that sentence up, and it's "technically" not about hardware superiority, it's just a simple exclusivity statement. Yup. EyePet can't be done on Xbox 360 right now because no one's making it. The sun is bright. Silly and pointless. Congrats, Kudo.
...Kinectimals IS EyePet. I would have used a different example of something like, say, Sorcery...or...The Fight, considering Microsoft doesn't currently have examples to mirror those two. Point taken though, he is simply commenting on exclusivity of the tech.
You should watch some videos of the new move enabled eyepet if you think kinectimals is the same.
he meant to say "Kinect is a tech fit ONLY for xbox 360" as for the smart,hard working & innovative companies Sony & Nintendo they have long decided that kinect idea wasn't good enough for their consoles. ;)
Being that The PSEye has been out with a mic and camera... Is it still possible for PS3 owners to one day get voice control thru software updates? Thats the only thing that Kinect offers that really interests me...
I believe its possible due to its software that translates what you say to carry out a function but i am unsure if the mics are good enough to be able to pick it up clearly enough
...spouting a three-syllable phrase such as "Xbox Pause" clearly enough that it is recognized, takes far longer than simply hitting a single button on the controller. ...not to mention I'll sound like a bit of a tool talking to a piece of machinery.
voice control exist already on some games ..
MS always good for a laugh...
yea... the PC and PS3 cant handle Kin. if the code was not written for the interface. what a totally lame article and the approver(s) should think before its approved
microsoft is all jokes
hahahahahahahaha the title = epic lol I wonder if microsoft have only some troll and douchebag in his team... First they had Aaron Greenberg who's the king of the douchebag in this industry and then... Him who only prove that he challenged the title of Greenberg by saying something like that...