Sony's much-maligned PlayStation 3 has defied the odds and has now outsold Microsoft's Xbox 360 in Europe for the fourth week in a row.
I guess alot of people saw E3 then
Sony put on a great show
Remember; there has not been a 360 price drop in europe like in america, this will change drastically when it drops in price.
The 360 price drop had a 3-day effect in North America...and then leveled back down to pre-price drop sales levels
There hasnt been a PS3 price drop in Europe; just a new bundle. The PS3 has had good sales in Europe since it was released.
yeah, but there is no price drop for the ps3 in europe also. it still costs 600 bucks. but i think its cheap for a great console.
4 weeks my ass.
It has been outselling since launch.
Check all console sales charts in Europe and you will find that PS3 has not lost one single week.
The funny thing is that this article uses VG Chartz which also shows PS3 winning every week since launch. Did they not have time to go back more than 4 weeks :)
Dig in yourself -> http://vgchartz.com/eweekly...
No price drop for the 360 either in the UK as of yet
And Singstar is coming out soon. The Euros apparently love Singstar.
But rumors are that 360 is dropping price in Europe pretty soon. That always makes a difference.
Still I'm always hearing PS3 has different specials in European stores, to be honest I have no idea what's going on over there or how much the PS3 really costs in Europe these days. But An official price cut like in the US, wouldn't hurt.
I am from europe, and in your currency a PS3 would cost you 1000-1200$.
Mine cost 1200$ or 5999kr.
How do you get 1200 Usd to 5999 Kr? It is more like 900 Usd. Jag vet att du inte gillar Ps3 och det märks, men sälj den och skaffa ett 360 då?
1200$ sounds prety much right if you live in dk. the $ is around 5.5 kr per $ so give and take that makes it around 1200 $
I live in sweden and the Us dollar is last time i checked 6.78 Swedish crowns, wich will make it closer to 900 dollar (884.955752 Usd for 6000 Kr to be exact) And the cheapest you can get a Ps3 in sweden is for 5800 Kr (855 Usd).
In DK it's 4995 DKr for PS3, two controllers and two games...
That is US$ 906 including taxes (25% VAT)... remember to add roughly 10% sales tax to the US price as well (depending on which state you buy it in).
Ever heard of Denmark?
It's right next to you and the dollar is at 5.40 here.
Well yes i have, cheap beer ;-) But i was responding to alexander22rednaxela, wich i assumed live in sweden since thats about how much a ps3 costs in sweden. 5999 Kr from Webhallen.se i think it is and thats 884 Usd.
At that rate it'll take forever to overtake 360. We'll see what happens when the 360 price cut for Europe gets there and the new hardware arrives.
Disagree Wtf? How can you disagree with that?
But wait a miniute. I thought the 360 was soooo good, has sooo many games and sooo great on-line and $200 cheaper. That the 360 was going to dominat the PS3!
Funny that those Euros go out and get a PS3 which has "no games" "unfinished online" and cost "too much."
LOL! FTW PS3! And this is only the beginning.
Oh NoEs Xbox is teh sux!
"Funny that those Euros go out and get a PS3 which has "no games" "unfinished online" and cost "too much."
Well, sony is still selling a lot on brand recognition, and I think a lot off people are waiting for the new 360 hardware. But in the end I think both consoles are selling like crap.
but alot of people had faith in sony and we all know rome was'nt built in a day and our patience will pay off very soon
that it won't pay off in the end. I might get one when it's interesting enough for me.
Why does everything have to be a damn flamewar around here?
Edit: Really? Even the tips section is full of fanboys. Now tell me that there's not some type of flamewar or people hating on each other in almost every section of this site. You just wait for this comment section to fill up. Even now as you look above me people are are being d1cks to each other. Funny that you accuse me of starting one when it's your comment above me that seems to be attracting a lot of attention.
unless you're starting one.
edit: Yes, obviously you are right, but when you post that comment before it is really happening in this thread, you're kind'off asking for it to happen.
And I didn't accuse you of starting a flamewar, I think it is just weird for you to post that comment when everything was still peacefull and quiet.
In order for your comment to make sense, you were hoping for a flamewar, to make it seem you have the moral high ground, you little drama queen.
Youre right, and it doesnt mather if they don´t say it right out. They always tweak their words so it won´t show that they prefer a console. sneaky bastards.
I admit im pro Sony, but i don´t hate the 360. (I do hate the wii, it´s a hotted gamecube)
is this even news worthy? why don't you just point it to vgchartz.com?
I thought they have their own source or something......in the end, it's all vgchartz.com....
The article gave some discussion of the numbers. It was more than just the VGChart numbers.
discussion base on make up number?
give me a break....
how to interpret vgchartz numbers:
us numbers: wait for npd, they will update it
japan numbers: it's accurate
other parts of the world: make up numbers.
look at their regions, I can give them benefit of the doubt for france, england, australia and couple other countries. but "scandanavian" "other europe" "other parts of the world"
dude, don't tell me those are not make up...
didn't expect that. the price is high and there are only a few good games out. good for sony.
Hasn't PS3 Fans said the whole time that the PS3 was the better console? If that is true, then why would this be news or even something to dwell on. "PS3 defied the odds?"
Should PS3 fans actually be saying "No big deal, we knew it would happen. " "It was supposed to happen." "I'm surprised that it hadden happened sooner." I'm puzzled as to what people brag and talk about, verses how they actually feel.
This should be a suprises to 360 guys, and not a surprise to PS3 guys, and a who gives a Sh!t be people that owns both like myself.
PS3 are doing a cray bundle in europe...thats why i got mine(yes i live in europe)
2 games 2 blu rays 1 extra controller and a PS3 60GB for 600 euro...i mean iwas expecting a 100 price drop but that deal is sooooo much better ^^
Europe was never a really large Xbox territory to begin with. It sells fine in the U.K and Ireland, but in the actual continental Europe, the Wii and PS3 are what's garnering attention. And this is before the Winter line-up.
Bring on TheMart and co
Explaining how the ps3 has no games, every game looks better on the 360 and there isnt a single AAA game on the ps3.
Its still selling more then the 360 isnt that just damn right embarassing
to go out and buy the ps3 just because it's a playstation.
Don't get me wrong, it is not stupid to buy a ps3, but it is stupid to blindly buy one, just because it wears the Playstation brand.
when the PS3 does get these AAA titles and the home is up an running if the PS3 is kickin ass now what's gonna happen in a while i don't think it will be embarassing for the PS3 boys but your right about one thing i'l give you credit on this one the PS3 is a playstation
the real embarrasement is unable to see the pro of Playstation 3 and couldn't figure out why some ppl choose Playstation 3 instead. Just blame it to brandname? Keep thinking that, you will get better sleep.
is that the PS3 is the new kid on the block.
People have been buying 360s for over a year. The people likely to buy one, already have one.
The PS3 is still in its honeymoon period. Its sales should be blowing the 360 away, and its only 1500 higher? By the time the PS3 catches up, both consoles will be gathering dust.
who's winning the console wars.
Wii is winning now! lol. Soon to be the PS3.
Four weeks in a row with the PS3 supersize package, plus no pricedrop on the 360 yet.
Don't forget the months before the 360 did better and outsold the PS3 just after launch. I know for sure with Bioshock and Halo 3, the 360 will outsell the PS3 again the coming weeks. Enjoy those 4 weeks of good selling because the PS3 will get its ass beaten again
@ Xbox 360 Will (below)
"Sales will go up for the 360 with Halo 3 but not by much. Everyone that wants Halo 3 already bought a 360."
Wrong. I know many people that owned a PS2 before and stepped in, because they see the 360 is the better gaming choice.
Second: many Halo fans are waiting on the fence, for Halo 3 to release. Especially to buy a special Halo 360 version. Many 360 owners are first time XBOX fans.
"After the little sales spike from Halo. PS3 will be beating the 360!"
If you're that ignorant... I'll be speaking to you after September. Bioshock, Halo 3, PGR4 and Mass Effect will kick the PS3's butt this Fall/Christmas
Sales will go up for the 360 with Halo 3 but not by much. Everyone that wants Halo 3 already bought a 360. Remember how it was supposed to come out day and date with the launch of the PS3! After the little sales spike from Halo. PS3 will be beating the 360!
Your sadly mistaken! PS3 has a much more diverse lineup this Fall.
Singstar, LittleBigPlanet Beta, Home, Eye of Judgement, Playstation Eye, Ratchet, Haze, UT3, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Pain, Socom just to name a few games of such a diverse lineup. These types of games will bring new users to the PS3 and also make the current PS2 owners upgrade to the PS3. The 360 lineup is good but it mostly caters to its current userbase its not enough to generate alot of new console buyers. And its definately not enough to sway PS2 owners on the fence to choose the 360 over the PS3. Trust me we can have this conversation in Jan. and you will be telling me you were wrong!
my liquid sh!t has more processing power than the 360
I agree. pie has so many more options compared to cake. pie can incoude nuts, fruits, vegetables, meats (chicken pot). and pie is not limited to the holidays and special occasions as cake is. pie is forever!
also: themart gets his face creamed on all the time at middleschool
yup, tell me on summer 08 after mgs4,ff13,ff13 vs,killzone 2, Ratchet Clank:ToD,Infamous,Uncharted:D rake's Fortune,Lair,Heavenly Sword, WarHawk,Singstar,Home,Folklore ,and Hot SHots 5,
Your a geek, who needs to get laid, at 60 it must be frustrating being without a woman your whole life lol, gety a life ya d!ck, PS23 outsold Xbox 360 end of story stop twisting stuff to your liking, Xbox 360 will die within time trust me Bill gates left you Xrats to die last time, stopped supporting the consoel forcing you rabid Xbox fanboys to buy a 360 that would explain why they had any major sales spikes, Xbox 360 ain't selling to hot now, with it's lack of decent games and lack of decent anything, the console is dreadfull it breaks down, my friends had like 3 or 4 consoels both premium and core within 4 months wtf is that all about can you answer that one geek boy Marty?
The PS3 beats the 360 in EVERYTHING, and the XBOTS can't stand this FACT....AHHAHAHHAHHA
Poor Bill! let him speak!
I wish Sony used their heads and dropped the price of the console in Europe - as they may very well do so as rumoured - and then we'll see how a cheaper PS3, with great games like Warhawk and Heavenly Sword appearing soon, does against a cheaper (by £20) Xbox 360 does with Halo 3.
It'd be interesting to see how much pulling power Halo 3 has.
The past 4 weeks or so the kids have been on holiday here in the UK & Europe, so I guess a lot of parents are buying them to keep them entertained. Also the PS3 is still fairly new here; it’s only been out for 5 months.
360 is a great system but yup mine died cant wait to get a new one my ps3 is still going strong dont matter whos going strong wii is still kicking both there a$$ lol
Wow, I really hate when people choose the PS3 because 360 CAN get the ROD. Well, if it´s broken, just send it to the service, and do something better with your life whïle you are waiting.
And I laugh every time I hear a PS3 fan say: "We are much more mature than you Xbots!"
Then, like 3 posts later, four brainless PS3 fanboys steps up and says: OMG MOHAHAHHAHA XBOT SUX PS3 FTW up yours, xbot!
It´s sad, but true...
Considering how amazing the system's upcoming titles for both 07 and 08 look. Sony has proven that the PS3 is worth the money, and consumers obviously understand the hardware's value. Good to see Sony doing so well all over the globe after their amazing showing at E3 2007. I feel pretty confident in saying PS3 sales will increase even more after TGS.
plz do remember that Leipzig is just around the corner and thats the biggets game confrens in europe :-)) and i think that might shift some ppl minds more throwds the ps3 :-))
when your over the top fanboys like Themart and slappie and never give credit or stop bein so blinded by the xbox well guys i for one am lookin forward to halo 3 also lookin forward to well loads of title's the future's looks bright for both console's and its the gaming fans that win if your not so blinded just by one console like you two numpty's
have one bubble, when xbots, bladestar,sljappie,themart,pow erofgreen, have five of em, guess made new accounts.
Because we are not dropping brainless comments like you guys.
I understand that the 360 price drop in Europe hasn't taken effect yet and your right, but theres no price drop in europe for the PS3 and the PS3 is still out selling it. What do you think will happen if there was a price drop for the PS3 in Europe and don't for get that SINGSTAR is coming out real soon out there and that game is hugh over there in Europe. Yes the 360 price cut will put it back on top and don't for get that HALO3 is coming out, so those things put together will make the system sell a lot but i really don't think it will last that long to make a huge difference.
The 360 price drop in the US hasn't had much of an impact - in fact the sales of the PS3 have been progressing at a reasonable rate considering the price difference and lack of software.
It'll come to the point where the PS3 will be priced at just over £300; and it will sell well in the UK when that occurs.
Even if only half of Sony's PS empire were to continue with a Playstation that would leave over 50 million screaming PS fans
That is more than MS or Nintendo achieved last year. I want to point out that Microsoft had excellent developer support in second place with only around 30 million screaming fans.
Sony has a fan base to blow. Microsoft and Nintendo don't.
PS3 is showing that it is at least as capable as the Xbox 360 and has potential for more (whether devs can access this power or not is still unknown).
I just don't feel though that either system has enough hardware wow factor to convert fans from one side to the other.
The only factor that might( I said might) mess up the numbers is Nintendo's Wii "might" actually do this time around the the Gamecube (a bit higher than last gens Xbox numbers). Nintendo's strategy is to bring a new different kind of gamer but if these people don't bite the hook that the Big N has thrown to them then we could see another repeat in the System support War.
Europe is/and always has been a big Playstation supporter and people are creatures of habit. The controller and overall feel of the System is still Sony but new enough and showing potential enough to keep the Playstation loyalist HOME (pun intended).
Plus Americans are different breed of gamers overall (although I tend to like games the Japanese community likes) than Asian or European gamers. Microsoft still hasn't really change their game line-up enough with enough Killer game titles yet that appeal to gamers in these areas.
Not surprised by this story.....
Plus there is enough Americans who are Playstation Loyalist plus enough Dual system lovers (like me eventually) that will end up owning both Xbox and 360 that I just don't see much of a change number and support wise.
Does that mean that Microsoft will not achieve or exceed the level of users it did last Gen?
Of course not. Though I wonder what level of growth Microsoft is comfortable with compared to the overall cost the xbox 360 and its marketing and problems has caused them. Sony seems comfortable because quite frankly there hasn't been much change in the hardware cost and movement that hasn't really deviated from the norm for them (PS3 actually started off better than the PS2) and Nintendo so far is smiling because this has been a one of their best years for console sales and I wouldn't be surprised if they are already making money off their hardware (considering how much older their technology is compared to the others console).
Theres a video on this site and its funny as hell its the first video on the site just scroll down and youll see it. its called THE RED RING OF DEATH http://www.joystiq.com/
To those 360 fanboys take it easy i own a 360 i just thought the video was funny so i wanted to share it with everyone on the site so chill out.
thats a funny video
heres'the full link
thanks deadend-THAT VIDEO ROCKS!
How COme all ps3boys
have one bubble, when xbots, bladestar,sljappie,themart,pow erofgreen, have five of em, guess made new accounts.
It's not normal to have multiple personalities :P
Im a little confused lol didnt we just have a article on here based on vgcharts saying that the ps3 outsold the 360 by 14k for that week ending the 12 in world sales. Now we know that the 360 is a flop in japan lol and gets outsold by what 18-20k a week well doesnt that mean the other regions the sales must be real close or in some cases in favour for the 360 for them to close the gap to a total of only 14k. The only reason I write this is because I know how these type of articles spark certain kind of reactions so I wanted to make a post that kind of showed the plus for both consoles. PS3 should be happy cause the sales are staying level for a month and is selling well(please fanboys it is selling well now) shows the price cut and the bundles they are running are working. The 360 sales are up to the previes couple of weeks showing that although the week of 5 to the 12(said the week ended on the 12 so that means it must have started on the 5) the price cut was only in effect for 4 of the 7 days it worked nicely and that it is holding its on in the uk. Numbers like this can be a funny thing sometimes you have to look past the whole who beat who and see it from a different view. Good gaming
I guess someone didn't agree with me atleast I would have like to know on what part they didn't agree on lol you know is this what posting comments is all about discussion?
my prediction came true.
I said a month before PS3 launched in Europe that Europe will love PS3.
i can't understand what people see in the crappy ps3 all there games suck