A new video suggests that Nintendo has stolen the idea of a motion controller from Sony.
Though it's old, it does reveal the truth. Sony never ripped off Wii, they just waited until they got it right.
that the industry ,get used to it. everybody stealing ideas from each other. Sony, steam stole achievements from Microsft. X360,PS3 stole online gaming from PCs. And the same apply to games, especially FPS where all game look the same.
PS3 stole online gaming from PC? What are you smoking? I want some, NOW!
lol :D you really believe that? :D
face it, all this tech emerges parallel / along side due to certain barriers/limits being over come in general. truth is, Sony and Nintendo have even mentioned the Kinect tech went through their R&D *looks at eyetoy* but they dropped it seeing it as bad investment, so MS took it up. no one copied anyone, but there is always a first in the consoles dating all the way back at the 80's (just watch AVGN crazy peripherals episode and you'll realize nothing we have today is ORIGINAL)
"Sony never ripped off Wii, they just waited until they got it right." Right up until "move" was announced motion sensing was a gimmick to sony and microsoft. What sony is trying to steal is nintendo's thunder
About Sony stealing Nintendo's tech. This video is solid proof to show otherwise! Look at the controllers! That's 2001 and this is 2010! Sony obviously was NOT satisfied with how the tech was shaping up at the time. We've said it time and time again, Kinect was also something that Sony was working on. They even had a game called Kinetic, Eye Spy... man they we're experiencing with all of this stuff unbeknown to a lot of us! Maybe this was why they never really stressed the fact that their tech was being hailed as a blatant rip off of Nintendo. Damn Stabbed and shanked up by Nintendo once again.... nice last word Sony.
1. Wii didn't steal from Sony. 2. We know Sony didn't steal from Wii, they just took too long to implement their technology that is similar in controller design and concept of interaction. 3. This won't stop people from saying the Move is just an HD Wii controller. Even people who know how far back the technology dates still call it that. It's fun to be derogatory towards certain companies on the Internet.
i wonder if nintendo still mad because sony left them and made better consoles,games,network and now better motion controller witch nintendo stole from sony in the first place...
...if SONY and Nintendo had played nice all those years ago on the disc based add on. Guess we'll never know...
Next time I stumble across the many all time greatest games list, I'll be sure to laugh at tyour comment and the disagrees. :)
I believe it was Nintendo that passed on CD-ROM, because Sony wanted a percentage that was to high for Nintendo.
I think Nintendo were absolutely gutted with the Success Sony got with the PS2 compared to their GC. I think they feel really smug now that Wii has made so much money, but it is still an inferior product that has barely evolved in the past almost 4 years. It seems like Nintendo are keeping all of their money rather than funnelling any of it back into the Wii (such as expanding online service etc) like Sony has been doing. Except for Advertising of-course, they are still spending a great amount of money on that...
@whitto, this goes further back than the ps2 vs gamecube -_-
I know, but in terms of success of Sony compared to Nintendo, PS2 ruled them all!!
yeah I bet they're really mad they made so much money compared to sony. what planet are you living on?
is this the part where we pretend the power glove never existed?....or have we decided that it is nothing like motion control and is therefore irrelevant?
sega activator was the first lol
Damage control at it's finest. Who had the balls to bring it to the public first? Who made it popular? And what was the Power Glove? The only truth is that Sony took the nunchuck design from Nintendo. :)
Do you mean the Wii nun-chuck that looks a lot like the left half of a dualshock, minus the d-pad? The Move navigator is much more like the Move Wand minus the glow ball than it is to the Wii nunchuck.
I can't share your delusion sorry. I can't share the delusion of 70% of the comments on this page. lol :) Ladies and gents I bring you exhibit A: http://www.thetanooki.com/w... who stole wha wha what? LMAO :)
I love that little phrase I've been seeing a lot lately, from Omega4 mainly Damage Control. Since when was a someone pointing out through video proof that something isn't the way everyones been saying it is damage control? Its called shedding light on the truth, instead of the "assumed" truth many people like yourself seem to accept. And also what better time to release a 3D input device, like move, when they are starting 3D gaming. It makes sense to me, 3D input for 3D games. And for your nun chuck argument, I looked at your pic, they are different, note the Move nun chuck has buttons, yea, those are buttons. Shit, by your logic we might as well say the 360 controller is the same as the Dualshock, since design and button placement doesn't matter.
The physical form of the nunchuck and navigator are pretty different, so do you think the existence of a nunchuck type device is what Sony "stole" ? The concept of the Wand predates the Wiimote by at least 5 years, just look up the patents. The need for the navigator is so blatantly obvious that only an idiot could think that Sony stole the idea. They have the wand that handles the functions of the right side of a dualshock pretty well, but does nothing from the controls from left side. They had to add that functionality some how, and another Wand doesn't cut it, you need an analog stick to do player movement well. So you end up with a device similar to the wand minus the ball, but with the controls from the left half of a DS. Personally I would have just put the analog stick on the Wand and made you use two but I guess they wanted to keep the costs down.
How come guns all have triggers and hammers? How come all chairs are basically the same? Sony followed the logical path for a motion device. If you have that big of a problem with it maybe you should replace all the chairs in your house with big rocks or logs since those are the original chairs.
This is super old.. and similar videos have been put up on N4G MANY MANY MANY times. There is no DOUBT that Nintendo made motion gaming mainstream (well a little), w/o them MS and Sony probably didn't think these were worth the investment (until PS4/x720 or so)
so does this mean sega and Nintendo came up with 3D first? computers had motion control first if you want to get super technical.
I second that!
Come on now, we're all passed that point in our lives where we accuse other companies of stealing..... Oh wait, I forgot what site this was! :P
this not the first motion tech video, i have also see once with Eric Lempel from 2003
in a sense, Sony was going for 1:1 motion. Nintendo was going for gesture motion.
WHY THE F*CK IS THIS SITE STILL GETTING APPROVED?
the crap that gets approved here is appalling. The site's quality is deteriorating, a fake review of halo was even approved -_-
well, i believe people should quit with the "sony copied wii' crap since it's getting annoying from when i hear it at work.
But its the truth. Don't just defend the Move just because its a Sony product
There's clear evidence of otherwise, and yet, what YOU say is the truth... XD
that's what I like to call "ignant"
The disagrees must be noting but Nintendo Fans mad about the truth coming out. The video in the link is from 2001 using the color system from the PS Move & the PS2 Eye Toy to track the the ball on top of a stick.
Stop acting like an attention whore, you troll.
i don't think sony copied the design of the wii mote however it clear the the success of the wii made sony look back on their older tech like in the video and made them reconsider it
that Nintendo has stolen from sony. But Im sure that sony showed us prototype of PSMove before wii have been revealed.
Lmao they don't call them sheep for nothing.. Random video with the 2001 date added to it...hmm yeah seems totally legit. They're playing on the ignorance of Sony fans on this one folks. Yes kids a small company like Nintendo beat a major electronics company to market with a product they invented... It's kinda sad that all you have to do is add a fake date to a video and suddenly its fact. Like I could add Dec 24th, 1955 to an Ipod video and you kids would believe it was invented in 1955.
So...really you're calling this fake, without proof to back your claims. K
This guy never has proof for his statements, lol.
oh just put a blind over your eyes and pretend that this video never existed..
and see.. yes this is not a fake unless something like 5000 people at the conference just shared a delusion about seeing it.
Even if this was the case, any engineer would tell you that making hardware is essentially looking at older ideas and improving them
worthless article horse has been beaten to death sony has not only shown tech with a wand but has also had eyetoy and showed a demo running 3dv systems (the tech ms is using) on ps2
Disagrees for the truth, why people? If I'm not mistaken you can probably find most of the stuff he's talking about in the related video section for the one in the article haha.
http://gizmodo.com/294642/u... Nobody stole anything from anyone. It's just some of the corporate dickeating fanboys being all delusional and in denial while sucking their imaginary console's electric penis. Fuck this. I play games, not consoles.
ROAR!!! I CAN BE DISGRUNTLED TOO!!! http://psx.ign.com/articles... XD
Yea, I also remember seeing an article regarding a patent Sony made for a controller that disconnects, just like that Wii one in your post Kratos. That was just a side note. And all you do by adding that link is show that you yourself are in the same boat as all the people supposedly sucking "their imaginary console's electric penis". I play games to, games on consoles. Yay me.
Amen to that Kratos
lets all face it Nintendo can do no wrong they could steal the statue of liberty and get away with it :)
No one has stolen anything, obviously the concept of controlling the game with motion controls is the same but the way Sony have used motion control is very different, same can be said about Kinect and eye-toy, the concept is the exact same, (you are the controller) but having 3D technology will be a lot more beneficial. Anyway, back to Move, using 3D motion tracking will have a huge advantage for most games, as well as having the 1:1 tracking that the Wii doesn't offer, even with M+. Nintendo have done a great job introducing motion controls to gamers though, now Sony are just trying to broaden the audience and break into the hardcore market.
I already knew this. but the majority of gamers don't. it's the truth, everyone has to know.
@FENDR You can check any all-time greatest games lists to uncover the bullshit you stated is BULLSHIT. :)
Why is it so hard to believe that Sony was working on a motion contril device longer then anyone realized? You do know Sony was and still is a very powerful tech company don't you? People seem to think because Sony is behind this generation that any innovation or victory is just dumb luck or by chance. So what if they came up with a design before the Wii came out? What, are you disappointed that you can't rub it in our faces and be a jerk about it anymore? Is your egotistical gamer pride hurt? Get over it. Why do you care so much who was first?
Is it so hard for people to accept that Wii is the biggest success this generation despite HD-graphics and with motion control. And when Sony and ms see the success they also want a piece of the motion controlling cake. Copying or not, they implements motion controls because of Nintendo.
Not really, Sony already did motion control and this new form is just something they've been perfecting. Why do you think the PS Eye lacked support? Because they were done with body control and were working on a better form of motion controlling.
I urge you to read my comment once more.
Huh the eye toy was motion control and the failed waggle eye. No one is denying that. What makes this even worst is they've been working so long and nintendo first try crushes their best effort. I guess Sony just doesn't know what gamers want. Kaz should have thrown this in there a long time ago or at least put this on the ps2 but what do they do wait 3 friggin years and make fun of their own research. Real smart Sony.
Nintendo's first try. Certainly the power glove would be their first. And it was an abysmal failure.
Did you just "contradict yourself?"(Cause the power glove came first, right?).
"Mattel's" Power Glove? Really?