CVG: But prototypes convinced no buttons were needed, says Rare man
common we all know that in a year or two MS will decided to bring out a remote like the Wii-mote or Move to work with the device just like Sony did with the PS-eye.
I doubt that, it would make their tagline of "controller free gaming" pointless. That would only happen if Kinect bombed epically. Besides if they ever need a controller for games they would just use the current 360 one.
Controller free gaming is already pointless. Argument invalid. Where's that watermelon pushing cat when you need him?
What a horrible waste of Rare's talents.
its a shame, one of the greatest dev's in gaming history , has been relegated to casual garbage on a peripheral
i think saying "Kinect will fail" would be wrong. it will sale. a lot. there are lot of people who wants to buy it... thanks to the early vids of Milo. EDIT: [email protected] guys i may only own PS3 and am a fan of it... but i'm not that blind.
You doubt that something MS claimed in the past turns out to untrue ? You're funny.
Ever imagine using Kinect on Halo? Imagine how much fast fingers need to react in order to run, shoot, turn, strafe and aim...now imagine your body trying to accomplish all that. I guarantee you that you will not last more than 30 minutes playing Halo with Kinect if it ever does support it, and with such precision and speed needed in fps games I doubt that there will ever be an fps for Kinect. Rare is truly wasted on such a thing and I hope MS realizes this and put them back to doing real games for its core gamers.
Well, Rare man is freaking wrong, hand-free gaming can't be more limited, the gestures....ah, will be completely annoying, more characters movements, more gestures, more lag, more glitches, less processing power for the console and so on, that's why we'll not see a "core" kinect game 18 months after release, if ever.... and heck, I want to see what will be the definition of a "core" game for kinect...
Well you don't say. Omega4 actually making a comment that I can agree with. @Wizziokid - No - it will be too late. To add a Move / Wiimote they will have to develop the tech, get the API's in place, get dev support, etc etc. It will take at least a year before it will be ready - most likely two years before it will be going to market. By then it will be too late for the XB360. And the PR disaster will be most probably be something that they will not want to face. Just look at the BR / HD-DVD disaster. The religion is that they will not accept the heresy called BR - and will maintain that the defunct HD-DVD is a "better value proposition". But turn and accept the truth? Never! The same with motion controls. They decided Kinect is the way to go. And they will be as stubborn about it as they were with HD-DVD.
We don't know that, it's just speculation. There's a high probability but theres also the probability that Kinect will fail altogther and be completely dropped by MS, not fact but it's possible. Either way you look at it if MS desides to bring out a 'wand' it will be metaphorical egg on their face.
Sorry I just have to facepalm myself for the spelling errors there ^^^^ "deside" lol "altogther" wtf? /facepalm *note to self* take your time next time.
just remember that even if it "fails" meaning for games people find it pointless and will die with their controllers versus spending $150 for laggy, unsupported by AAA game me-too'ing of the competition for no other reason than to boost the sales of their not next generation clone of the current console which should have been Xbox 3.... breath... there's always the windows aftermarket. And it is MUCH bigger. The point would be debug the device on Xbox, get some into peoples homes so it gets some mindshare and then windows games will see support for it. (not that there aren't knockoffs of Kinect shipping already.)
Rare hasnt been great in over 10 years.......they arent one of the best developers they arent even on the list
Which is a shame, as mentioned, only because they have at least 5 big IP that would easily leverage Kinect in Kameo, Banjo, Viva Pinata, Perfect Dark and Killer Instinct. I'd pass on them all (depending on how polished PD would be), if Lionhead shot Milo in the face and dumped Albion and returned to Black and White.
"in a year or two MS will decided to bring out a remote like the Wii-mote or Move" mmm nah wait 5-6 months for that best way form them to get some cash is that the launch kinect then wait for summer and launch optional controllers that way kinect look less expensive and like i said OPTIONAL
when you can make crazy shapes with your hands like you're at a downtown rave party.
Sounds like Factor 5 all over again. They spent ages arguing, that SixAxis didn't fit in there game, it didn't work. Then eventually they grew to like it, and thought it was a better way to play. Considering how badly that turned out... I wonder what put them under that impression...
"Rare, Molyneux wanted Kinect handheld controller" Embarrassing. From prestigious First Party Studios...
One is enough
PSEye/ Eye Toy imitations too =( hey, at least one of the imitations works ;)
@ndibu Move tech was developed before the Wiimote - but you knew that already - just chose to ignore it. And while we are at it - then we should drop all LCD TV's that are not from the company that manufactured the first one. And no cars other than those made by the first car manufacturer. And while we are still at it - drop the overpriced EyeToy clone called Kinect.
One game. There is one game I am remotely interested in. Child of Eden. I loved Rez and this is from the same guy and I believe it is a spiritual sequel. Except for Child of Eden, and the Star Wars game if it works, I could care less about Kinect. The Star Wars game would be better on Move or Wii anyway. If I ever do get Kinect and the Star Wars game, I'll wind up holding something in my hands anyway so it feels more natural. I've got an old lightsaber from when Episode 1 came out that is the kind that is just like plastic and slides out in segments, I'll use that. And as for Child of Eden, I need to track down white director gloves like Mizuguchi was using at E3.
I suggest you watch the demo video posted recently, the one with the guy who holds a cd in his hands and the avatar goes into a tailspin with the head looking like the neck just broke...lol
that Kinect Does not needa haptic feedback of some sort. The problem is the obvious limitations of purely relying on gestures to control and navigate a game! For example - how do yo move forward in the game? This results in most games being on rails? Games that would be revolutionary have yet to be seen or even demonstrated for kinect. As great as Dance Central may be, it is in no way revolutionary, nor does it offer a compelling enough gameplay eperience to warrant an investment in kinect. Everyone keeps talking about the "potential" of Kinect, but to be honest I'm very quickly failing to see any real potential beyond casual shovelware and marketing spin! If you want a device with true gaming potential - look a PS Move! I've said it before - M$ could have had a winning formula combining a 3D camera with 3D motion controls. But as has been their strategy since they entered the console business, they always invest more in marketing dollars - than in their core technology. This time round it may not be enough to see them through. One of the main review criticisms of Move, is the lack of a wider range of compelling games at launch to justify an early purchase. Kinect on the other hand, does not offer a range of compelling games At All to justify a purchase. A 3D contoller coupled with Kinect would have offered the device almost unlimited gameplay potential - but as it stands now it may be DOA. Especially once the Christmas rush has died down!
I think it at least needs a small navigation-like controller to be viable.
announcing a controller for kinect isnt gonna fix the permanent lag in kinect
it would because it allows players and developers more control options. How would you control something like a Psi Ops game (referenced because it was about the only game that required all the face and shoulder buttons at any given time). Unless Kinect can recognize AND the player can remember dozens of motions which can be accomplished by just pressing a button... and make it easier to play, why would you pay $150 for Kinect?
MS must be rubbing their hands in glee...people already suggesting they should add a controller to their $149 camera.... Just add a further $50 each per controller....lol A fool and their money will soon be parted and in the case of some 360 supporters they are practically begging to be fleeced further
$60+ since the new legacy controller is already $60.
That is if there is still a XB360 market left to sell to after Kinect is going to cause XB360 to lag behind in the multiplat titles like RUSE, Virtua Tennis, Golf etc. When all is said and done - it will be nearly impossible to get the market share lost back after this overpriced EyeToy has run its course.
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