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Submitted by s0ph1atr0n 1416d ago | opinion piece

How IronStarMovement Embarrassed Themselves at Insomniac's Presentation

Yamilia Avendano and her filming partner represented IronStarMovement at a recent Insomniac presentation for Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One, and made some surprisingly bad decisions while the camera was rolling. While Avendano claims she "wasn't impressed" by the awesome looking demo that spanned a good 17 minutes, what isn't impressive is how her and her partner not only ruined a perfectly good presentation with their commentary, but also embarrassed themselves in front of their fellow journalists and Insomniac Games. (Industry, Ratchet and Clank: All 4 One)

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kratos123  +   1416d ago
I was sick midway through the shacky was really irritating
The_Count  +   1416d ago
I hate iron star. Just not my kind of site.

Ah ah ah
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Kerrby  +   1416d ago
Ironstar is a joke of a website, I remember all these bullshit articles they wrote which turned out to be false.

Like Left4Dead being announced on PS3? Yeah I remember that one.

I hope Ironstar gets blacklisted from this website. Their articles are complete shit.
BattleAxe  +   1416d ago
The first few times I read some articles from Ironstar, I knew these guys were bullshit. Now these two clowns talking in the video have solidified their place in the lowest rankings of the most irritating and straight up dumbest losers in the gaming industry.
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cyborg6971  +   1416d ago
I've been saying that site was crap since the first article was posted screw them they suck.
Conloles  +   1416d ago
Ironstar is a biased joke, they embarass themselves every time they put an article up.
SilentNegotiator  +   1415d ago
LOL, 20 seconds in, she's like "ZOMG DIS SUX NOT AS GOOD AS TEH ODDER GAEMZ DO NOT WANT"
hay  +   1415d ago
I'm watching the demo now. They actually even suck at being negative...
Sev  +   1416d ago
I haven't been a fan of Ironstar since day one. I've seen some of the most embarrassing stuff coming out of there.

I'll never forget when they called GT5 "Grand Turismo 5" over and over again in the same article.

Quite frankly, they are giving other smaller time blogs out there a bad name.
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DJ  +   1416d ago
I remember we were all laughing over that a while back.
That was equally embarrassing.
deadreckoning666  +   1416d ago
One site trying to make another site look bad..lol. The two people in the vid were immature and I don't condone their behavior, but why is this site making an article to make IronStarMovement look bad? In reality, it was two douches from IronStar that were the bad apples...not IronStar as a whole.

@Yo Mama- Yeah...ummm, I actually didn't miss that part...buddy. If you passed high school English, you would realize that the author contradicted himself. He says IronStar doesn't deserve much blame..but the title is, "How IronStarMovemement Embarrased Themselves at Insomnaic's Presentation"

@Chris399- Oh yes, me having one bubble on a site where people display their insecurity by mentioning GT5 in Halo: Reach articles, trolling Move/Kinect articles, and downplaying anything thats popular most certaintly makes you better than me..lol.
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Yo Mama  +   1416d ago
Apparently, you missed this part, buddy.
"IronStarMovement itself doesn't deserve much blame, but it's interesting that they didn't hire more mature people to represent their site at PAX 2010."

EDIT: ISM, ultimately, is the one to blame. They are the one's who posted the video for everyone to see how immature the employees in the video are.
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Chris399  +   1416d ago
Yo Mama,
the one-bubblers usually stay true to form by not reading the articles.

And the IGN thing he's going off about is nonsense too. There are editorial DEPARTMENTS in large industry outlets. Reviews are seen by a Senior Editor, an Editor In Chief, usually the who team, before being posted.

On a bit of a tangent here, but numerical review scores are rubbish anyhow. They should just have words, without a score. Force people to use their own opinions and sense. But then we'd have no Metacritic and whatnot to fuel the fanboy wars or to give sites the hits they need.

Edit: The pair in the video were deplorable. The one gent was talking about coke (not the drink) and how tired he was, the girl was just crass, bitter and irritating. Courtney Love and a soiled baby's diaper could have done a better job (at least the diaper would have been quiet - Courtney too, as she's usually sedated on drugs, she only has to keep the camera steady).

@deadreckoning66. So your solution is to be as vulgar and crass as all the perceived "faults" of N4G that you listed? Thanks, I will take the high road.
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Elven6  +   1416d ago
^^^
The headline is pretty damning if that is the case and not true if even the author dedicated a paragraph or so towards it.
RememberThe357  +   1416d ago
If you hate the site so much stop coming.
You wont be missed.

This really isn't a big deal. Just some regular ass people filming a presentation. Iron Star kind of suck, this is true, but they're just a bunch of gamers writing about gamer. They're not journalists by any measure.

And the author doesn't actually contradict himself. He says that IronStar is responsible for what ever they put up on their site, but make it a point to say that the ultimate blame falls on the people who made the video.
Chris399  +   1416d ago
@dead.
Way to stealth edit your comment too. I'll do a screen-cap next time.
BattleAxe  +   1416d ago
I'm glad this article came out to expose and hopefully blacklist these dummies.
solidjun5  +   1415d ago
Deadreckoning is...
*drumroll* the biggest hypocrite on this site.
Jerkstore81  +   1416d ago
Likewise, and I don't really see why people are getting upset. They were heckling to themselves, not to the point where it was disrupting the entire presentation.

I haven't heard of Iron Star Movement until now, so congrats to the writer of this article - you just gave the publication more notoriety.
movements  +   1416d ago
I'm sorry, I never talk bad about sites but that vid was terrible. Only watched up till a few seconds in and they were acting like children at a birthday party.

Terrible vid. Childish and immature.
Persistantthug  +   1416d ago
In general, I like Ironstar, and I like what they represent....
They are regular people that enjoy games and are "on the move up" in the game journalism industry.

I will say that the video was bad and the commentary was bad too...a mistake.

I can forgive that, as long as they learn from them, and I have a feeling that they will.

I'll be looking forward to their progress at next year's E3 and/or next event.
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jack_burt0n  +   1416d ago
Yep ironstar need to let em go and find an ex con and a working girl to replace them, you know up their standards, make it a bit more classy and professional.
bjornbear  +   1415d ago
agree'd
watching it I just felt embarrassed to be a game and to be associated with people like that

why are they so unprofessional? they are filming footage that will probably go public and they make stupid comments throughout the whole footage =/ aren't they meant to be grown ups?

sad...
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Parapraxis  +   1416d ago
Wow those 2 losers from IronStarMovement are serious douchebags.
No class.
Cueil  +   1416d ago
wtf?
WTF is up with sites talking trash about other sites talk about trashy why can't they do something constructive?
Parapraxis  +   1416d ago
Actually, I'm glad they did this story.,
IronStarMovement SHOULD be embarrassed and it also lets people who missed it know the level of "professionalism" to expect from ISM.

Also...welcome to the internet...not everything needs to be "constructive"...whi ch is a fairly subjective term BTW.
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holdmedownma2008  +   1416d ago
@Cueil
Who knows...
Ri0tSquad  +   1416d ago
Agreed
This shouldn't be news.
Yo Mama  +   1416d ago
Just goes to show you that any moron with a camera, website and an opinion can be a video game "journalist" nowadays. Very sad.

This video was very unprofessional and immature. Like others have stated, they conducted themselves like teens in a movie theater. I would have turned around and told them to stfu. This definitely didn't help ISM's credibility.
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tdrules  +   1416d ago
oh look N4G, the pedestal that regularly gives Ironstar the attention he craves, is bawwing that he may not be such a nice character.
maruyuki  +   1416d ago
what the hell is this about?
i've heard plenty of people talking through presentations before

they arent even loud, this is some stupid shit
Jeff257  +   1416d ago
Those two really are a couple of morons. I couldnt even finish the vid because I really wanted to smack the chick. I wish someone there would have done that and told her to shut up.
troncoparati  +   1416d ago
Those two appeared to be hungover...
That's what you get when you lend the company credit card to a couple of loosers without "work ethics". And to think that for the people that are not associated with the company those two butt-wipes are going to be their first impression...LOL!
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BlackBusterCritic  +   1416d ago
If you guys think that's bad...
...you should have heard me during the release of The Last Airbender.

But seriously, there is no need for one site to trash another. That's not gaming journalism, that's not having a REAL GAMING JOURNALIST to make an article about gaming, so they have to attack someone on another site. I happen to know Treezy504, and he's a stellar guy & gaming enthusiast. Jump off Ironstar's crotch, Consolepress & review a game or something.
Dellis  +   1416d ago
You're part of a site related to Ironstar, PSU is actually worst but that's another story, you should get off their crotch, whatever they do is like if PSU did it bunch of fanboys sites.
Yo Mama  +   1416d ago
@BlackBusterCritic
So, in your opinion a "real gaming journalist" talks and snickers annoyingly through developers presentations? Riiiight.
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TOO PAWNED  +   1416d ago
Hey yo hes all cool my dog shizle my nizle, or something like that.
Silly gameAr  +   1416d ago
@ TOO IGNORANT TO PAWN

Take that sh*t back to elementary school where you belong.
despair  +   1416d ago
watched it on mute first, didn't realise what jackasses they were with the commentary. Bad jerky camera also.
tiamat5  +   1416d ago
These people are not gaming journalists. They are gaming media. There is a difference. Gaming media usually behave like fanboys, make broad unproven statements, cause trouble by making flame bait articles and behave mostly unprofessionally. A journalist remains neutral until they can make proper assessments, are careful what they say and try to remain as unbiased as possible whether the thing you are reporting on, in their opinion, is good or bad. BTW what does agreeing with a statement made by another person on the site have to do with what we are talking about now?
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lolzers  +   1416d ago
R - Holy Shakey-Cam Batman! Look, those two are speaking through a presentation! It's just not right!

B - Indeed Robin, I'll make them pay for this. I'm going to attack them on the internet. Now it's serious business.

R - Wut?
GenoZStriker  +   1416d ago
If they can be considered journalist for having a shaky cam + a blog site, then I'm a game journalist to.
downwardspiral  +   1416d ago
ehh, i always considered them to be some little blog site.Just some wanna be professional journalist.
TardcoreGamer  +   1416d ago
Why all the fuss?
Until now I've never even heard of consolepress.com. It seems like they are jealous of Ironstar and want to discredit them. As for the video..Yes its was bad and should not have been posted on their site. As for Treezy I think he's a very talented individual and has a bright future ahead of him as a video blogger/game journalist. check him out on youtube sometime. He's a pretty funny guy. not to mention a sick lyricist.
N4OGs  +   1416d ago
If the girl who was video taping is hot then I will let it slide
only if I can see some sexy pictures of her though. Also the guy in the vid wasnt really bashing the game. He said it looked cool which it does. nice colorful graphics and art style. He said its not a type of game he would play though which is personal preference. some people dont like cartoony games so you cant hate on him for that.

They shouldnt of been talking though lol. I wonder if everyone at the presentation could hear them. If they could then, yeah they embarassed themselves.
Lf_sIcKmAn  +   1416d ago
A journalist should do his job...
No more and no less... to pass information along... unbiased and unmeddled with....
To talk during ANY kind of presentation is rude... be it a 3 year old aimed game or the next Uncharted...

What a shame that we have some of this "Journalists" that give other good ones bad reputation... IGN is another example of what once was great journalism... back in the ign64 days... great unbiased news... now they are the laughing stock of the major news networks...

Anyway... JUST DO YOUR JOB... and if you feel like giving an opinion... do so in an article and not when you are recording something for us gamers to see... we care about the games... NOT YOUR BIG MOUTHS...
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Baka-akaB  +   1416d ago
the article is so far only advertising yet another mediocre site most people wouldnt know about otherwise
SpaceFox  +   1416d ago
The article has a point, I watched that video earlier today and clicked off after 3 minutes of that bull. It's really unprofessional the way those 2 acted, they should've just stayed quiet while the guy talked. Save your opinions for the article itself.

But, the author of this article is being a real fucking hypocrite. Since when is it professional to bash other websites for petty mistakes? It's not, and has never been. By making this article he's just as bad as Ironstar.
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xyxzor  +   1416d ago
I met a few of the staff members of Ironstar at E3 and they came off as being very arrogant, and essentially bragged the whole time, boasting their accomplishments. Dualshockers was another blog that came off as a bunch of *****. I'm not surprised at all that they would do this, and I'm glad that someone had the balls to call them out on it. These types of sites give sites like mine a bad name, and really undermine the efforts and professionalism we try to convey.
DJ  +   1416d ago
Which site
Are you from? And really, Dualshockers acts like that? That's pretty surprising.
xyxzor  +   1416d ago
PS3Vault
BannedForNineYears  +   1416d ago
Wow, people are making a huge deal out of this!
So what if they talked over the video? Mute it if you don't like it. It's not like you'd be able to understand what the people on stage are saying.
Wow.............. ~_~
They were simply expressing their opinions on the demo.
Isn't that what demos are for? ~_~
Parapraxis  +   1416d ago
you are 12?
BannedForNineYears  +   1415d ago
No, I don't appreciate that rude assumption.

I'm 7.
PS3-247  +   1415d ago
I see nothing wrong here.
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DJ  +   1415d ago
Ok, THAT's just completely wrong.
Way to make yourself look bad. Girl's are just as good at games as guys. Same goes for games journalism.
PS3-247  +   1415d ago
How did I make myself look bad? I didn't say anything bad. I know girls are good too.
DJ  +   1415d ago
Oh, you edited out your comment.
You said "this is typical since she's a girl", but no one can see that anymore. Nevermind dude.
reckoner  +   1415d ago
Aww, how cute.
One no-name gaming website is taking potshots at another no-name gaming website. The former isn't any better than the latter. Why devote an entire article to bash the other website? It's immature and unprofessional.
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Styile  +   1415d ago
Its Treezy504 people
Look him up on youtube hes a cool guy.
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