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A new Patent from Sony shows a full Body Move Control Device .. looks crazy

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Waldi3019d ago

Lol. What's that?! :D

Edward-Kraken3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

The right way to do full body motion control.

But the figure's kinda funny. :D

Acquiescence3019d ago

you're not gonna see me doing that in the living room.

Not even with the curtains closed.

R2D23019d ago

Not sure about the aftermath when you hit the ground.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

Sony moves in for the kill!

Oh and that illustration clearly shows just how out of touch Sony really is with it's user base if they think we're able to do scorpion kicks. A more realistic illustration would show some fat dude sitting on the sofa with a bowl of cheesy nachos, 2 liter bottle of soda complete with wife beater in his whitey tides. :D

R2D2
Bicycle kick...pfft! Lame. No. It's called the Scorpion kick...more manly.

madpuppy3019d ago

Sony, with move and even this patent are taking tech from motion capture and utilizing it for games. mo cap is a proven, solid way to translate body movements perfectly into a computer. if those little balls weren't needed then they wouldn't go through all the trouble and do something similar to what kinect does...except it doesn't work well enough (or at all) for quality mo cap (computer) tracking.

On that note though, I don't think many people want to jump around like idiots to play a game, I definitely don't, I generally want to sit down in a comfortable chair and play, standing is fine every once in a while but running in place and hopping like a rabbit on crack is not something I want to do after a hard day of work.

the concept is solid, just not practical.

sikbeta3019d ago

This is good for Sony and all, but who the hell is going to do some crazy sh!t like that in front of the TV?

Guess FIFA and PES lovers will try it, but hell, in other genres @[email protected]

weazel3019d ago

Nah...It's definitely a bicycle kick. The Scorpion's face down, with feet flicked over your back.

mindedone3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

That's not a Scorpion kick, it's a bicycle kick. I'm a 'Merican and even I know the difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Edit: I'm crazy late, I guess I had this article sitting on my computer for an hour.

stuna13019d ago

This could just be sony's way of blocking microsoft's attempt at coming up with an idea that similar, since it is common knowledge that the balls on the move controller are what makes it as accurate as it is.

nickjkl3019d ago

theres to many damn german articles im actually starting to understand german

Dee_913019d ago

site not working for me

evrfighter3019d ago

if you were to go that far in a videogame...

get off your ass and go play soccer with your friends. seriously

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Trey_4_life3019d ago

Dammit i hate these foreign website articles, even with google translate, it's still hard to read.

DrillaKid3019d ago

@ Longrod_Von_Hugendon

The image is a bicycle (or overhead) kick. The Scorpion kick is what Rene Higuita did and looks nothing like that.

pixelsword3019d ago

looks like he slipped on a banana.

madpuppy3019d ago

that truly deserves a bubble.

Denethor_II3019d ago

Yeah I can't see many people using the scorpion kick anyway.

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kratos1233019d ago

hahah thats never gonna happen gamers are too lazy.

RankFTW3019d ago

Damn right, I'm lazy as fuck!

Omega43019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

Are those Move controllers attached to your hands and feet? lol wow.

Looks like Sony is playing it safe incase Kinect becomes the new standard.

Hope this is true just to see how the Sony fanboys switch on full-body motion control, and say its the best thing ever lol.

And another thing, didn't Sony say buttons are needed, I can't imagine the chaos that would occur if this comes true, it would be a bigger facepalm than a FF7 Remake or GTA5 being a 360 exclusive.

@Shadow Flare
I know all patents don't come to light. But don't you find it funny after ALL Sony has said about Kinect, that they even make the patent in the first play? Why do it if you aren't considering it? And why now? I'll tell you why cause they know if Kinect takes off the 360 will be getting a ton of exclusive games and they will need to make Move do the same.

The damage control will be immense if this happens lol.

Shadow Flare3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

In case your unfamiliar with how patents work, companies apply for patents for just about anything and everything. Hundreds of patents are submitted. This one is pretty dumb, but they just apply for the patent anyway

By the way, why would we switch to full body motion control all of a sudden? We had it already with the eyetoy. And it sucked. In fact it looked a lot like the games kinetc is bringing out

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Omega

From what the others are saying below, this patent came out before move was even announced anyway. I mean you're with the same bunch of people who claim move is a wii ripoff. But there are videos from 2004 with Dr. Marks demonstrating a Move prototype. So.....how do you spin that?

The research and development team test everythjng. You say that this patent is in direct response to kinect, but isn't kinetc in direct response to the eyetoy technology?? Did you ever consider Sony may just be furthering their ideas with their own eyetoy? They did full body motion gaming before the xbox you know. You act like the kinetc was the first to do it. And if this patent really is from before moves announcement, then it's obviously just patents for prototypes they had furthering the eyetoy tech.

jack_burt0n3019d ago

@shadow
dont try and reason with it.

Its filed purely to block MS trying to add it later to try and save kinect just like object scanning.

Shadow Flare3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

I know

Anyway, I just wanted to add that you can tell this is an old patent because the picture shows an old fat ps3. They don't even make those anymore. And the controllers attached to the person aren't even move controllers. They look like some old prototypes

K, I'm finished with it

sikbeta3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

Dr Marks is testing motion-controls applied in gaming since 2000 with the 3dv cam, the camera made by the company MS bought for kinect, in 2004 Sony patented the wand, the one in those old videos, they perfected the wand = PlayStation Move

fooltheman3019d ago

It would only allow games that doesn't need buttons...
haha,
kinect new standard?
Or you implying that the game industry will dig his own grave?

deadreckoning6663019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

Why can't Kinect become the new standard? The Wii did it and PS3/360 fanboys never saw it coming.

"I know all patents don't come to light. But don't you find it funny after ALL Sony has said about Kinect, that they even make the patent in the first play? Why do it if you aren't considering it? And why now? I'll tell you why cause they know if Kinect takes off the 360 will be getting a ton of exclusive games and they will need to make Move do the same."

I agree..why would Sony even CONSIDER this taking into account all the trash K.B. has said about Kinect. Admit it, they trying to cover their ass in case Kinect takes off. And its a smart thing to do. I don't blame Sony for doing it one bit.

8-bit3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

Kinect will never be the new standard because it can only do stationary and rail based games.. Show us how it can be used to play games that gamers play like FPS, TPS, RTS, Sandbox. If rail based games become the "Standard" then I am out..

It's funny because you will NEVER (quote me on this) EVER see a sandbox game for Kinect. It can't work by any means. You will only see the same types of games recycled over and over where you stand in one spot and preform gestures.

"I expect MS to offer a wand with Kinect to get some deeper gameplay."
MS going back on their "you are the controller" would be an epic admit to fail. I can see it happening too because there is only so much you can do without buttons and once you start to see the same games over and over they will have to do something.

RememberThe3573019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

But you add Kinect with a wand and you have something. I expect MS to offer a wand with Kinect to get some deeper gameplay. But I don't see it become a standard with all it's limitations in space (six feel of space between player and camera) and latency. At least not yet.

ActionBastard3019d ago

When did the Wii become the new standard? I only ask b/c most, if not all, GOTY titles are 360/PS3/PC games.

Why o why3019d ago

a new standards gotta......you know......work. I cant see something without buttons and with its limitations being 'the new standard' Thats just being overly optimistic or naive at best

8-bit3019d ago

Move is just about ready to release, the reviews are good. I can't wait till after this holiday season. Kinect will sell well over the holidays because it is hyped, new and casuals will "imagine the possibilities" but once they come to the realization that Kinect doesn't work the way they "imagined" it will be garbage.

skrug3019d ago

@RememberThe357

so you saying Kinect(2) is gona use Wand?
lol

eyetoy = kinect
pseye + move = kinect with wand

hhmmm.....

lowcarb3019d ago

"Kinect will never be the new standard because it can only do stationary and rail based games"

Kinect just like dream eye and eye toy will one day be the norm. VR gaming will one day be here and at that time these types of gadgets will come to light.

fooltheman3019d ago

The WII is the standard for motion controlling, not for the entire game-industry.

Kinect can't perform all sort of games...so it can't become THE standard...

morganfell3019d ago

This is why MS will have to push hard with their typical deceptive marketing. Once the holidays are over we can expect to see a multitude of used Kinect hardware and software dumped back into the retail system as people discover how the device actually fails to deliver.

MS is aware of this and the fact word of mouth will spread like wildfire. The fact is they will never recoup their investment and this is why Robbie Bach was fired.

acky13019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

"Kinect just like dream eye and eye toy will one day be the norm. VR gaming will one day be here and at that time these types of gadgets will come to light."

But not just kinect and dream eye and eye toy alone...there will have to be other peripherals in accompanyment therefore a simple camera will never be the norm for the video games we have come to know and love.

cayal3019d ago

"Kinect just like dream eye and eye toy will one day be the norm. VR gaming will one day be here and at that time these types of gadgets will come to light."

Not a chance in hell that will happen.

Captain Tuttle3018d ago

lol at Morganfell and his FUD. You better be getting paid by Sony son, you're working way too hard otherwise.

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mustash20033019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

:)

Just to add, not sure why Sony or its fans bothers you so much, but they clearly do. This patent was from 2009 anyway.

jerethdagryphon3019d ago

if they went with a design like that it would be a attachment contianing a soft ball filled with gyros and acceleromiters and light for each foot then the standard move in hand so youd still have buttons

ChronoJoe3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

No problem with full body motion control. Eyetoy does it, and Kinect do it, but neither of them do it well.

Eyetoy can't track within 3D, Kinect can't track accurately within 3D, and comes with a lot of latency.

Anyway, this is an old patent from 2009.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

"Incase Kinect becomes the new standard."

You're HAlarious! And I used my last bubble to tell you this. :P

madpuppy3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

I am fully aware that accelerometers,gyroscopes and magnetometers were not invented by Sony, those things are established tech many years old used in many industries, just like the balls they use in motion capture and the use of multiple microphones to get positional data.

I do have a peeve though, all the morons out there that think the ball on top of the move controller is somehow stupid and is likened to a sex toy. If the motion capture balls are essential for the movie, game and television industry to capture precise, natural movement, why is it scoffed at when used on a gaming controller that captures movement accurately unlike it's competition?

gamingdroid3019d ago (Edited 3019d ago )

Why should you worry about what other people think? Ignore them and have fun with motion control.

You are not going to look good playing any of the motion controls anyhow. Case in point:

Kinect:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Wii:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

With that said, I don't think Sony is helping themselves by using the pink colored sphere instead of the multitude of other colors available. Besides in motion capture, the ball isn't attached to a rounded "shaft" that makes it look like said sex toy.

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MysticStrummer3019d ago

Old news with old pics. Naturally an old troll would comment on it. The date on the picture is October 2008. Facepalm indeed. The damage control is clearly coming from you, but I'm sure you don't even realize it. As for the buttons comment, the controllers (clearly an old design) appear to have them. Even the ones on the feet. More fail for you. All this shows is that Sony was thinking about full body control and then figured out that no one wants to do what is shown in the picture. It doesn't change the fact that Kinect has almost no potential to be used with anything other than casual games.

The real killer3019d ago

Boy, MOVE is not extended the PS3 life it's just a feature.
Kinect is a life extender for the X-BOX 360, and that's the differnt question :)

punisher993019d ago

"Looks like Sony is playing it safe incase Kinect becomes the new standard. Hope this is true just to see how the Sony fanboys switch on full-body motion control, and say its the best thing ever lol."

If they do its probably because they actually have real games to play instead of gimmicky shovelware crap like that "other" console is showing.

cliffbo3019d ago

@omega4

this is a fake or are you too dumb to realise that, they have already taken the pictures off the site.

and btw the eyetoy can do full body motion control already check out Kung fu live if you don't believe me.

acere3018d ago

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kevco333019d ago

Umm... isn't that exactly what the Eye-Toy was, and the PlayStation Eye is? Having the technology is one thing, packaging and marketing it correctly is another.

Galvanise_3019d ago

. . .we'd seen this before E3 2009.