It's been a while since customers lined up outside stores at midnight to buy a Microsoft product. That may change on Sept. 14, when Microsoft releases Halo: Reach, the fourth installment of its blockbuster Xbox video game series.
4 games?...did they forget ODST and Halo Wars?...plus dont quote Pachter...whenever i see him in articles no matter what game, the article is begging for attention....the game will do great no doubt about that...it has the backing of previous multi-million dollar sellers, plus the advertising capital that MS will pump into it post release will only make it more marketable, especially when the holiday season rolls around, Black Friday will be a mad rush for games, and i see Halo being one of those that will be at the top
Of course, its one their Biggest *Left* exclusives, that and geow
I mean what else do we have on the 360 if you dont like gears... feel bad for all the people getting fleeced 10 bucks a month ta play it... still no wonder Activision is frothing at the mouth for pay to play fps's its making ms billions.
You guys say that every year, it's never the case in the end and is some how conveniently not discuss by haters and media at the end of the year when the same myth is born early the following year; every year. Meaning we see the same PS3 fanboy lists and number comparisons at the start of the year but every year the 360 has the same if not more exclusives by the end of the year and then the same BS starts all over again. I think I heard a PS3 fanboy in here say PS3 has 25 exclusives and the 360 only has 4. That's a new record beating the BS claims of 2009 saying PS3 would stomp the 360 in 2010. Sony and MSFT have different marketing styles. Not hard to win the "LIST BATTLE" when one company announces and hypes games more than half a decade from release. LMAO
10$ a month what are you smoking? its 5$ a month or it will be in november.
ps3 fanboys are delusional...every year they act like the ps3 has a way better lineup than the 360 but every year there are just as many great games on the 360 to play. i would take the 360's lineup this year over the ps3's lineup any day....Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Limbo, Crackdown 2, Fable 3 and Halo Reach....that is a great lineup and I am more than satisfied with it....Crackdown 2 ended up not being as great as the first one, but all the rest of those games are great.
those 25 exclusives will be spread out through 5 years sony always delays them,
odst and halo wars would bee seen as spin offs
ODST is an expansion (though full priced) and Halo Wars doesn't belong to the main Halo series because it's an RTS.
the only hope,sadly
No fanboy comment from me but I wish them the best of luck.
Michael Pachter predicts Reach will sell well! That guy is a genius! Seriously, I want Pachter's job, being an idiot and getting paid for it sounds like a fun job. It's way more fun than pretending to be a retard to win the Special Olympics. :(
lol nice1, +bubbles for a sp reference , oh and for speaking the truth about pachter
I guess the proper response to this title is "No sht"
Would be better to say expectations. As in they expect it to sell as well if not better than prior games. May as well be Madden at this point.
nah, i dont think it fair to be likend to madden, but i do love madden 10.
Halo is the FPS to MS to what Mario is the platformer to Nintendo or GT the race sim to Sony. But Halo still lent towards Madden thanks to ODST.
But maddens annual and has been for over 20 years now, 6 halo games have be made in what 10 years? and one was really an expansion pack. But ODST isnt a terrible game.
I have big hopes for halo reach and I DONT want to be disappointed.
Its sad that there only exclusives are a few shooters...
At least they're not in last place this gen.
Thats all the 360 can point to because they dont have games anymore.....like broken records and fyi the ps3 is gaining and probably wont be last by the end of the gen
Nah, he's just poking fun at you guys.....there are lots of great games on the 360...I couldn't even afford all the games I wanted on the 360 this year.
err, there is nothing sad about having exclusives that are for the most popular genre out there. Games that try to be original don't usually do as well as they should, which is definitely sad but that's the way it is. The companies care about beating each other, whether it is Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo and they want titles that can bring in the most sales. Sony can act like they don't care hugely about sales, but they are still a business and that's the way they are. P.S Don't say stupid things like 'sales don't matter' in response. Because THEY DO to the COMPANIES.
Microsoft is laying out Halo Reach for Core gamers, and Kinect for the casuals. Of course Halo Reach will sell well, Xbox 360 doesn't have much AAA exclusive coming out soon to compete with that. I'm not sure if it'll have the same impact like Halo 3, but this is the last Halo game, so I'm guessing it'll sell like hot cakes. Now here's my next title article "Sony has big hopes for GT5" lol
That last quote is the perfect example of why MS will never truly surpass Sony or Nintendo in the games industry. Neither Sony or Nintendo are afraid to make Niche games. They are both willing to put money on the line for games that may or may not sell well. The end result is a number of exclusive titles that MS doesn't have the guts to release. MS on the other hand sees fit to release Halo, GeOW (and god knows how long that will be exclusive), Fable, Forza, and PGR. That's pretty much all I can think of. Only GeOW is new to the 360. Yes MS has also tried some JRPGs, but half heartedly and only really to try to capture the Japanese market. I will also give them some credit with XBLA, but full releases are what truly matters. The treatment of Alan Wake is another example of this. That game had major potential, and MS did little to nothing to truly promote it. What's sad is I am an MS fan. I own all 3 systems, but I own nearly 3 times more 360 games than PS3 and well more than the number of Wii games I own. The biggest reason for that is an investment in Live, I think it is still the better of the two online services. I have a greater number of friends and overall I tend to enjoy it more, but as PSN improves there is going to be less reason to maintain focus on Live. MS needs to truly rethink that Niche comment especially as they move into the next set of systems because its a stupid way to run the game publishing aspect of the company.
I agree. I think M$ really have hurt tthemselves ever since Peter Moore left. I felt that after E3 06, which was Peter's final show as being head of Games Division, everything started going downhill. I remember looking at some new IPs coming out on Xbox 360, before it launced, and felt, omg that is soo cool. But the lack of marketing and advertising for anything non halo or GeOW related has hurt them. Games like: Alan Wake, Too Human, Crackdown, Fable 2, Lost Planet and Mass Effect (before they went to PS3), and a whole bunch more. All these great exclusives and literally no marketing for any of them. Plus shutting down basically 90% of your first party and second party developers as well as letting go of the one developer that made Xbox what it is, Bungie, and combine all those losses with your investment now on Kinect and motion crap, Xbox is going downhill and it will only be a matter of time before M$ finally looks in the mirror and realizes what they've lost and what the Xbox brand is/was supposed to represent. M$ have to understand without studios making you games exclusively, and without any first party studios to rely on and create new games EXCLUSIVELY on Xbox, and creating new IPs, new studios etc. M$ and Xbox will fall and Sony and Nintendo will be laughing all the way to the bank. (they actually are starting to right now)
I'll amend this slightly to add Crackdown to the list, but the big problem here is that usually a sequel is supposed to be better or at least equal to the original. Crackdown 2, while fun (i do own it as well), is not up to the original. I just wish I could get a bead on the company. Thinking back to the original Xbox, MS took chances....Kakuto Chojin, Blinx, Azurik, Grabbed by Ghoulies. Early with the 360 they also looked to be trying to hit other "niche" titles.....Kameo (under appreciated), Viva Pinata, and also PDZ (which was decent.) However, it seems that if a game does not go on to be a multimillion seller, then its not worth reinvesting in. I have a few disagrees by this time, and I suspect its from MS fans. Sad thing is, as I mentioned I am one of those. If you are truly a fan of the Xbox brand you can't tell me the concerns I have mentioned are not valid. I want the Xbox brand to continue forward, but it needs serious help. Letting companies like Bungie, Bioware, Bizzare, Pandemic, etc slip through your fingers....i mean come on.
@logjam...Sony's exclusives are not even the top sellers on there own system. The 360 developed multi-plats are the highest selling games on PS3. How Kinect performs this holiday will determine how this generation of gaming goes. M$ has put forth a great Wii inspired line up to bring some of those gamers/casuals over to M$. As for the hard core, they have been well fed this year with the best line up of hard core games. Mass Effect 2 Metro 2033 Splinter Cell Conviction Alan wake Crackdown 2 Halo Reach Fable 3 Add to that list the best looking, playing and selling multi-plats are on 360. What has Sony had. Heavy Rain with no game play, multi-player and DLC. Mag update 2000, GOW with no multi-player or DLC, LBP 2, and a car sim. WoW...I own a PS3 and this was the worst year so far. Not one game bought...ALL RENTALS. Should I mention how bad the multi-plats looked on PS3...ouch. I own a Wii...do I have to say how bad the games look on the Wii. C'mon, the Wii is a solid machine technically but thats where it ends for me. M$ is the only one who seems to be trying this year. Many analysts think M$ could run away with this gen, starting this holiday. What does M$ have in store fore 2011???...I don't know, does anybody??? they don't usually announce games till at least E3. They will have a few surprises. The problem is the devs...Where's Mechassault? They licenced that game a long time ago to Jordan Weisman, the original creator. What about the triolgy from Silicon nights, makers of Too Human. What happen??? Rare has a few games on tap. Is 343 studios ever gonna make a game. Turn 10 has already said a new Forza with Kinect support for 2011. Lukas arts is suppose to provide a Star Wars game for Kinect in 2011. What about Blue Dragon and Lost Oddessy?...C'mon, they have alot on the go. Gears Of War/Epic is the only team that has really shown their 2011 game. Let's wait for 2011 shall we...It's not M$ fault that Sony has nothing to talk about other than games coming in 8-12 months...lol. M$ plate is full this year. @ Hyper...M$ is laughing all the way to the bank...LMFAO. Sony just started making $10-15 on the slim. Nintendo lost 150+ million last quarter and will lose alot more with Apple gaining market share everyday. The big American companies are moving in for the kill. XBL has generated 1 BILLION dollars. Sit back and watch the panic set in.
Logjam, really? Anyway, my comments dont have anything to do with just this year, they have to do with Microsoft as a game publisher in general. That list of exclusives, MS owns 3 of those IPs. Even Alan Wake isn't an MS owned IP. So the other 3 (Mass Effect is already going Multiplat) could very likely appear on the PS3. Based on your response I have to assume you are a fan of the 360. You can't honestly tell me that you don't have reservations about how they proceed in the future. Have they talked about 2011, no not really beyond Gears. That being said, there is stil no hint that they are putting anymore energy into developing MS owned IPs. That was the whole purpose of my original post. Do I hope to be wrong, absolutely! I would love for TGS or GDC to roll around and have MS drop megaton new IP's. What I don't want to see is simply publishing deals with other developers because those deals don't equate to owned franchises. Gears for instance. Epic owns the IP, but they have a cozy relationship with MS. Well whats to prevent them from releasing something new in the Gears universe as a multiplat title in the next Gen. MS doesn't really seem to be backing Alan Wake, so whats to prevent Remedy from releasing a sequel on the PS3. Hell they didn't even publish the sequel to Ninety-Nine Nights. It's their IP, why have Konami publish the game, that seems completely counter intuitive.
Mass Effect 2 (not exclusive anymore but multiplats always go on 360 game lists) Metro 2033 (whats that?) Splinter Cell (lol MGS4 from 2008 is waaay beter than this game) Crackdown 2 (Want to play a great sandbox game? Try InFAMOUS) Alan Wake (Where is that game again? Oh yeah hiding in the shadows while Dead Space 2 comes out with Extraction all on one Bluray disc - only on PS3) Reach (Last Hope...) Fable 3 (I'm sure this game will be better than the terrible Fable 2 b/c well....they took out the menus? O_o) PS3 Best Sim Racer - Gran Turismo Exclusive Content for Dead Space 2 Best Graphics/Best Hack n Slash - God Of War 3 Best Customizable game - LBP 2 Most Original Game - Heavy Rain Largest MP game - MAG * Why do people bring up console sales when that doesn't affect you in anyway? The games Sony and Microsoft release do and so far other than Gears 3 I don't see any future for 360. Although they'll probably pay devs that are releasing a mulitplatform game to advertise it for the 360 so it will be a "pretend" exclusive. CoughFFXIIIXough, CoughBlackOpsCough. : D
Selective memory. There have been 6 Halo games in 9 years. 0.67 a year There have been 11 Gran Turismo games in 13 years. 0.85 a year There have been 10 Grand Theft Auto games in 13 years. 0.846 a year There have been 10 Rachet & Clank games in 8 years. 1.25 a year There have been 14 Metal Gear Solid games in 12 years, not counting expansions and remakes. 1.16 a year There have been 10 Call of Duty titles in 7 years. 1.43 a year There have been 9 major Guitar Hero titles in 5 years. 1.8 a year There have been 5 God of War games in 5 years, not counting GOW Betrayal, a cellphone game. 1 a year There have been 19 Resident Evil games in the past 14 years. 1.36 a year. Yet people say that Halo is milked.
You took the time to do all that? I think you deserve a cookie.
I don't think Halo is milked at all. I believe the main reason it looks that way is because its basically the main franchise on the platform. It's a lot easier to forgive multiple instances of Sony franchises because there are so many. And with Nintendo's use of say Mario, he is used in so many different types of games that it surpasses just platformers. Halo is no more milked than any other key franchise for a console maker.
Which one of the fans care that Halo franchise is "milked"? It seems to me that only the haters have an issue with Halo while everyone else is buying Halo: Reach! If fans want it, is it really milking? Bubble to Kaveti for the list.
Interesting. Good point. It seems out of many big franchises Halo is one of the least milked.
Intelligent bubble for you. I myself have been wondering why people say Halo is milked when there are worse offenders.
A little over 200 games in 29 years. 6.9 games a year.
Don't forget Sonic either.
And i thought my life was empty. rofl thanks god
Nice. Bubble for you.
Stupid and logical title much? :P
Ps3 GT5--PS3 KZ3--PS3 infamous--PS3 Move--PS3 R3---PS3 Ratchet---PS3 TLG...etc all you hear from M$ is: Xbox360 Halo--Xbox360 Halo--Xbox360 Halo--Xbox360 Halo oh & Kinect i actually feel sorry for N4G having to post about it over & over & over again. their xbox360 news section must be a very boring one. :(
I appreciate that you care so much about people and thing saround here....don't feel bad for me...I'll be to busy having blast with Halo: Reach I don't wanna laugh or cry with you, I don't know you. Just saying
OMFG! Really? Microsoft has big hopes for its biggest release? NO WAI
360 people get upset everytime people say negative things about Halo because they and Microsoft cling to Halo like a life line. I have never seen anything like it. No matter what type of genre we are talking about somehow Halo slips into the converstion. I admit Halo is a good game but they act like it's the god of all games. Time and time again Sony raises the bar for games and somehow we always come back to Halo. You can't even tell the diffence between real cars and in game cars in GT5. LBP2 is about to completely reshape the game maker genre. UC2 got GOTY over hundreds of games last year including Halo. Oh well, I guess when you have less gaming variety you work with what you have
No we don't. We just correct the bullshit coming from jealous PS3 fanboys that don't even have anything sensible to say. You are delusional just like the rest of the PS3 fanatics. The 360 has had a great lineup of games this year and Halo is just one of many. People defend Halo because it is a good game. F.U.
Wow. I guess video games really do make you violent. See what I mean about taking it personally. We have listened to you guys continuously talk bull$hit about our system and games for years and about its imminent failure. Now that the tide is turning it's only fair you take some back. No need to get hostile. What, you can dish it out but can't take it?
Thats exactly it. PS3 is going to pass 360 next year, Move is pushing motion controls foward, PS3 exclusives are selling better than ever, PSN continues to improve and the PS3 lineup next year is killer. Things have changed quite a bit in the last few years.
Oh yeah right. You guys have been talking shit about the 360 since it was announced. Not to mention last generation playstation fans acted like arrogant a-holes towards Xbox fans. Don't give me this crap about the innocent PS3 fanboys just getting back at the mean 360 fanboys. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Wow just like Many PS3 fans get upset if anything positive is said about the 360, or anything negative is said about the PS3. Sometimes I feel the temptation to go to the PS3 page and troll until my comments become trite, superfluous,and inane, but I realize that I am loathe to become that supercilious. I would rather stay in the 360 section and talk about topics that involve the console I prefer, and only respond to the nonsense when it enters my demesne.
Well said. That is what I try to do. I do my best to stay positive and simply talk about the things that matter to me, but PS3 fans invade every article and make it next to impossible to have any sensible discussion about the actual topic. They always have to come in with the same old biased crap, like tiamat5 did above.
I am sorry but don't group me in with the over sensitive people. I am not against Halo in any way but you 360 people shove it in our faces constantly. Many times I have said 360 games like Mass Effect and Gears were good games but 360 people never give our games any merit. You call UC2 overrated, despite the fact that it got tons of high scores and almost every award in the gaming world, and say it is undeserving. I have no problem with you prasing Halo if you didn't curse our games in the same breath 95% of the time. So you force me to point out that your game is not as perfect as you say.
I see 360 fans praise Uncharted 2 all the time. It's extremely common.
Agreed, I don't own a PS3 and I have never owned a Playstation console in my life and the game I voted for GOTY last year for the Spike TV VGAs was Uncharted 2, because IMO it was most deserving of that award.
I do not own a PS3 but I think that the PS3 has a lot of good games. Uncharted 2 is a good game. My buddy has a PS3 and I have an Xbox 360 so when we go to each others' houses we play on one of the two consoles. I am sick of trolls and fanboys getting pissed at each other for no reason. Both consoles have great games.
"Microsoft Has Big Hopes for Halo: Reach" Oh really? XD
I'm sorry, but the 360 has a ton of games that come out every year. I like the ps3, and I like uncharted 2. But I can honestly say I enjoyed playing Spinter Cell Conviction more. I know I will get some disagress, but to me, it was more fun to play. I'm more looking forward to halo reach, than anything ps3 exclusive this year. I don't care for racing games, I would much rather be playing Team Slayer, or King of the Hill in Halo's multi-player.
Americans do love their Halo.
I love my Halo and I'm swedish. Most of the people I know love Halo.
Seriously. Can trolls and fanboys just keep to themselves. When I come to N4G, I come looking for news. Not for people yelling at each other over which console has the most exclusives. So please, stop the trolling.
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