Microsoft recently announced that they were going to increase the price of Xbox Live from $50 to $60 starting in November. That announcement was met with negativity among gamers.
Some people like getting ripped off I guess.
MS made about $1.6 billion off of Xbox Live in the last twelve months with a profit margin estimated to be 65%....65 f'ng percent! Now tell me, why do they need a cost increase, if they're making those kind of margins? Because they know they have a "captive audience" and their customers will most likely not be switching to another console or PC because they're already too invested in the 360. Welcome to the Microsoft Milking Machine. And then, to take all those giant sums of cash and blow it on the Kinect technology which has really been showing that its not "ready for prime time". Man, at least they could have plowed that money into some first party studios and made some cool new exclusives to make the cost increase a little more justified. I know a lot Xbox gamers like to give Sony a hard time, but at least they are investing in technology that works and putting out great exclusives from their first party studios. Come on MS....get with the program.
just wait, more suckers will pay and next year itll be 100$, and guess what ? more ppl will bend over
You know not everyone cares as much about exclusives as much as people on N4G do. Some people base their console purchase on the package as a whole. Maybe they like XBL interface better, XBL service, the controller, or maybe because their friends have it. Wii has some great exclusives I would like to play but I can't stand any of their controllers, or the whole Wii set-up, I just don't like it and don't feel like paying $200 for something I wont enjoy just to play a few games. I own both Xbox 360 and PS3, I use my PS3 for its exclusives and that's it, because most of my friends that I been gaming with since the PS2 days do the same thing. I like the 360 controller better, I like XBL as a service better, and most multiplatform games are better on 360. Those same reasons applied back in the PS2 and Xbox days. Back then, Halo 1 was an amazing game and I loved it, Fable, Mech Assault, Conker, where also awesome games that I loved to play at my uncles house, but I never would buy a Xbox. I hated the Xbox controller, I didn't like XBL at the time, I was a SOCOM junkie (lol), most of my friends gamed on PS2. Things like that can justify someones purchase when it comes to a console, not just what games you can only play on that system. You could throw every PS3 exclusive on lets say Wii for example (I know bad example) but even though I bought a PS3 now because of the exclusives, I would never buy a Wii to play those games because I don't like anything about the Wii. Nobody likes paying for anything, or paying more than they already are, but if you enjoy their service you're fine with it because you want to keep it. If Sprint raises their prices of their service by $5 a month, are you going to switch Verizon because its cheaper even though you enjoy Sprint much better? Nope. People will pay for what they like, and people will bitch about what other people spend their money on, but in the end its no ones business to anyone on what someone spend their money on. If they enjoy it, more power to them let them pay. Don't call someone a sucker because they can enjoy something that you can't. I guess you're a sucker if you pay for internet when you could go to your local Wi-fi spot and get it for free then huh?
Still I say Halo is the number one reason to pay for overprice product. Maybe it's the chat. /s
I am drinking the kool-aid
I've never seen a guy writing 5 reasons why he agrees about his stupidity
this writer is delusional , i think he should go a see a psychiatrist. Im ok with the price hike cause features which were going to be added anyways are going to be added. interface, like when was the last time it was updated, 1 year maybe close to 2. And fyi, exact opposite of PS3 interface, for those who have both, boot them up and try. It updates already with the previous price point. inflation, first of all, 23 million is just reg subscribers with silver and gold, last i heard it was 9 million gold subscribers, given last time i heard, i will amp it up to 15 million gold member, anyways my point on this, with more people paying, SHOULDN'T THE PRICE GO DOWN. sales prices will prob go up too, since full 1 year gold has, it works just the same as wow cards.. All in all, lamest article ever
Yet again Microsoft raise the bar.. on pricing. The reason I never got a 360 is because I refuse to pay to play online. By getting a PS3 I think I made the right choice.
*Deleted Double Post* N4G had a "hiccup" and entered my comment twice.
xbox live is not as good as psn, and it costs money. just like old man said...can 360 play 256 players? NOPE.
Lol 360 is certainly able too, it just doesn't have 256 player game right now.
Insecurity breeds irrationality. If you really are okay with it, you needn't shout about it. @Sandal? You still in the enchantment business?
"If you really are okay with it, you needn't shout about it." Reminds me of all those "10 reasons you need a PS3" articles we see here so often.
it will be funny when the price of xbox live will be sucking bill gates d!ck... And still some asshole would write an article saying..."here's 5 reasons why I'm fine with sucking Bill's d!ck"
that was classic and very true. I can see the articles now, just cup the balls, small price to pay! LOL hahaha
That's funny! I guess they will try to explain the excuses away with bullcrap like "it has a creamy filling that can't be beat!"
First comment to ever make me laugh! bubbles
wow.. some pleople just dont get that what is a few bucks for them is millions and millions of dollars for MS .. and ok.. if those extra millions where used to build up some games .. ok that would be fine but its not... its going straight to ms pockets and u dont care
I just can't for the life of me figure out why someone would invest that kind of money in Live. I am still kicking myself because I paid $50 for PSN+. Honestly if gamers would hold companies more accountable and be more open to switching to a better service instead of defending "their" console, the whole industry would benefit from it.
But that is because I have not been paying for LIVE since two years ago now. I have broken free from LIVE and play Xbox exclusives on the PC. I just don't see paying for online services when they are free everywhere else. Nothing against Microsoft, just my opinion that spending money for free stuff elsewhere is a bit silly.
"Xbox exclusives on the PC" Not really exclusives then are they? cause you are PLAYING THEM ON A PC.
Still exclusive, it's like Sony sharing it's exclusive with the PSP, Actually it's the SAME FREAKING THING! I hate it when stupid people say the Xbox has no exclusives since they are on the PC.
PS3 games =/= PSP game
Tell us of a game on the PS3 that is exactly the same on PSP?
Then tell me what the difference is? God of War is on the PS2 then moved onto the PS3, but wait, they made a game on the PSP and they are making another one. So are you telling me God of War is not exclusive? Edit: GTA: Liberty city stories
Go take a look at Wikipedia or hell go pick up a Dictionary Taken From Wikipedia "Exclusive typically means not with other things or not including other things." From Dictionary.com "single or sole: the exclusive means of communication between two places. " In Laments terms for something to be Exclusive you can only get it/play it at one place. Kind of like how each store(Best buy/Walmart/Gamestop/Game Crazy) all had "EXCLUSIVE" content for games when they release. And you are talking about a IP not an actual game. God of War is sony owned but is on their platforms. We don't see GOW:COO on the PS2 do we? No it is EXCLUSIVE to the PSP. Yes the GOW FRANCHISE is on other systems but each game is EXCLUSIVE to that system. Your example of GTA:LCS is kind of like how Ninja Gaiden 1&2 were Exclusive and then later ported to another system.
You do know that all words don't transfer over to everything right? Haven't you ever heard of someone saying that the FF franchise use to be Sony exclusive. or just recently everyone is saying how ME 2 is no longer exclusive to Microsoft. Edit: I love your logic NotSoSilentBob, I give you a legit argument and you just tell me I'm wrong because it was only timed. Well I have an announcement for you, THAT'S EXCLUSIVE AS LONG AS IT STAYS WITH THE SAME COMPANY! Thank you for proving my point. Have a nice labor day weekend!
Killershadow How is it still exclusive when I am able to play it on another system? I don't have to have that one to play that Specific game now do I? Yes something can be exclusive for a set amount of time or for the LIFE of it. But after that Set amount of time runs out it is no longer excluding the other console thus it isn't exclusive.
Silly sony fanboy, your love for your system is getting in the way of seeing my logic. I see where you are coming from and timed exclusive aren't exclusive but if it stays in the company and on a different system then it is still exclusive to microsoft or the Xbox or PC, whichever way you prefer to look at it. Doesn't matter which way though, because you can't play it on the PS3 or the Wii which makes it exclusive.
God of War 1 and 2 are not exclusives to the PS2 anymore since it's on the PS3. No one ever denied that. They are completely the same game on both platform minus the little bonuses of being HD and unlockables. But you said PSP. ME1, ME2, Halo 1, Halo 2, Gears1, Fable 1, L4D1, L4D2, etc. is not exclusive to the 360 since it's also on the PC. GTA: Liberty City Stories is not a PSP exclusive since it's been ported to the PS2. EDIT: "Doesn't matter which way though, because you can't play it on the PS3 or the Wii which makes it exclusive." -killershadow117 Never mind, im not gonna reason anymore.
ThanatosDMC Well said this person is delusional thinking that because it was on a system first, but was brought to a competitors system it is still "exclusive"
Sandal, What are you doing here? Silly Boy. Get your ass back to enhancements. You don't know anything!
XBL is the best thing that happened to consoles. Remember how terrible PS2s online play was? No you don't because you didn't play it because it was that bad. Like it or not XBL is the reason PSN exists.
You should never be "fine" when paying more for something, you'll only encourage other companies to push their luck with customers.
I didn't even bother reading the article because of the title. I guess some people are just silly!
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The problem is that there is nothing Microsoft offers with Gold that they couldn't for free. I pay for Gold but I still hate doing it.
Well, errr do what the Window's Live crowd did and refuse to pay and when enough people stop paying the online gaming part of it (the only bit that most people really want if their honest) will be made free.
Zero dollars adjusted to compensated for inflation is still zero dollars. Online gaming is free everywhere but Xbox Live and some MMOs.
Hey if he's fine paying, Let him pay..
Anybody here actually own a 360? *crickets*
Nope, could never get over paying for online play. I have a gaming PC and a PS3 as a "sidekick". I think its an excellent combo because I like my FPS and RTS games on the PC because I believe that it has better controls and graphics. However, I do enjoy my PS3 for the games that are unavailable on the PC (like Red Dead Redemption) and games that I think play better on a console (like FIFA 10). The exclusives are a really nice plus, too. I believe its the best of both worlds.
Yeah boy :)
Why do you assume that these people don't have a PS3 and a 360? *crickets chirp* Btw, this article is laughable. So this guy likes wasting money huh? Microsoft should have made XBL $100.00 a year then. Then I'll see how many people will defend this.
Is this really news? It's just a journalist looking for a bit of attention. Everyone has their opinions but they don't need to be articles.
there must be somebody out there that actually liked being r4ped.
Liking rape makes it consensual, thus making it so you do not like rape. The definition of rape is basically when you do NOT want it. I do NOT want to be raped by M$ for playing online.
keep your r4pe whistle around your neck.
It aint rape if you like it.
if m$ yells surprise before they do it.
That's kind of childish and offensive. What are you like 12 or something?
Well you must like wasting your money then.
Should be titled 5 reasons why Im a sucker. Paying for stuff that is free to use on other systems doesnt make the price worth the money. He mentions both Netflix and Hulu Plus. Well they both only cost the price of the initial subscription to use on PS3. Not the subscription plus another 60 dollars to even get access to it. I could state other reasons why it just isnt worth it but they have all been stated before. But anyone who pays for this crap should really be ashamed of themselves.
I'm not fine with it all i have is a 360 i think it's bull.....Since the stuff they offer is free on the PS3...I find it funny i pay to play on my own connection or somebody else. I have a laptop but it's no gaming computer but it can at least play battlefield 2 and 2142 which can keep me entertained but people are going to move off that soon since battlefield 3 is coming out sometime next year.
Don't worry there will still be people on BF2/2142. Same as there are still people on 1942.
In all my years of gaming, I have never witnessed a fanbase so willing to get raped.... Until this gen.
A free service that does 99.999% of the things you want or a pay service that gives you that .001% of the thing that is missing. And going higher. Not going to buy it, nope.
Like I`ve said before, if you`re fine with paying, and you enjoy the service, that`s great, you should continue subscribing. But I personally think the price raise is BS. No, it`s not that I can`t afford it, don`t even come at me like that, it`s about being treated with respect. It`s about having a good relationship with your customers. When I support a company like Sony, MS, or Ninty, I`m more than happy to give them my hard-earned money as long as they`re trying to improve my gaming experience. I`ve supported all three very avidly this generation, but it`s clear who is working the hardest for my dollar, and that`s Sony and Nintendo. The best way to give back to us gamers, is to give us more games, and they both have showed me passion at E3 and TGS. Not only did MS blow off both of these events, but they came out with a price raise right after, not cool at all. Well, that`s my view.
bros,.. I think even paid western journalists cannot spin this shit ,.. they will try like a mofos,.. but damn,.. SAAAD !! This is not a fanboy rant,.. I swear ! all 360 fans should wake up ,.. games for windows,.. are damn free,.. they are charging for something that should never charged for,.. I don't care,.. If you find worth in cross game chat for 60usd/year I don't mind,..please pay,.. but online play ,.. dude I'm paying for my internet/(play) out of my ass already,.. and it is between me and my isp provider,.. If I want to be a dick to my friends and call them during their games (I hate that shit),.. I can use ventrilo, or skype or phone,... Though getting group of shit heads together ,.. is easier on 360,.. less button presses,.. Why do you support this shit is beyond me,.. this is copy/paste ,.. im lazy ,.. but it is the truth,..
if anybody wants to pay $60 for xbl thats up to them, but don't pretend that would still be true if you could play online for free, microsoft has you by the nuts and you don't even realise it lol.
Wasn't the price $40 for a couple of months and now it's $60? I thought they would of lowered it some more, not raise the price up $10. Oh well, doesn't effect me.
I only need one reason, the price isn't changing in my country :)
I'm not fine at all with the price increase. We already have to pay to play online, I was fine with that. But now... what more do you want from us MS? I can actually afford this, but I am now really weighing the pro's and con's of doing this. I really want to play Reach online heaps but having to pay more money for a service that most of the stuff I don't actually use is starting to get a little bit kind of crazy for me. But... wait... no price increase here in Australia. Phew.... Feel sorry for the American people and anywhere else that is affected, my heart goes out to all of you. :( You all need to be collective and stand up against MS, make them realise it's just not on. It's a shame some people will just keep paying making MS think they can do anything they want with us. Also I am not counting they are ruling Australia out entirely either, maybe in the near future we will get affected as well. So I stand by all of you who want to stand up to this.
my five reason why im fine with the xbox live price increase. #1 : i dont have an xbox :P #2 : wont be expending money in alcohol or smokes #3 : ima get less food, so ima be skinner #4 : my parents are brothers so im not very smart #5 : i like to walk for empty streets in dangerous places with my wallet on my hand, so its almost the same result #6 : i like to help a poor company like microsoft that needs my money ;) #7 : i have a job for ms, so i need to say that everything that ms does is right #8 : It would be less poor guys playing with me PD: i think that i have more than 5 reasons but aint shure.. like i said my parents are brothers e.e