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5 Easy Ways Microsoft Could Have Avoided Pissing Everyone Off

Increasing the price of anything makes tends to make people angry. How could Microsoft have avoided the backlash against the Xbox Live price hike?

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CombatEvolving3025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

What the fuck am I going to do with 100+ friends? Even with 30 I only talk to half.

Why should I pay(especially when it has ads) for a community game I don't want.

Not a very good article, good thing it is an opinion piece.

Maybe something actually useful like dedicated servers.

Chuk_Chuk3025d ago

If what i heard is correct and MS makes roughly $1.6 billion dollars annually then i'm surprised that the big name games and even some of the not so big named games don't have dedicated servers.

amiga-man3025d ago

Why are people content to pay more for there internet, microsoft don't own it but xbox owners seem to think they do, if microsoft made online free like everyone else, who really would pay $60 for xbl.
wake up people microsoft do not own the internet so stop giving them money for nothing.

dtalon33025d ago

no one owns the internet but I bet you pay $50-$60 bucks a month to your ISP and I don't see you complaining to them? oh is that because your an xbox basher or because somehow in your head its okay to get access for internet for $60 bucks but not have online community features and pay for them.

I am gonna go cry in a corner because Im a bitch and don't want to pay $5 a month for xbox live.
/s

amiga-man3024d ago (Edited 3024d ago )

My point exactly, i have already paid my ISP subscription, to use the internet, so why in microsofts world am i paying them.
Make the online free to use, I would have no problem then with them charging for xbl, unfortunatly this wont happen because they know, xbl isnt that important playing online is, but you pay again lol why?

lowcarb3025d ago

Why can't MS just make online gaming free for silver and remove all other features (xmb,netflix, or whatever)until they upgrade? That would solve this whole conversation. Heck they could even have it to where silver online gamers can't join gold matches or maps until they upgrade. So many simple fixes yet the mighty dollars seems to have corrupted the core of cybertron.

Adrela3024d ago

Because even though the connections to do online gaming is player to player, you still have to have a server that does the connection. And that costs money.

vickers5003024d ago

"And that costs money."

Which they are getting plenty of from ridiculously overpriced accessories and xbox live (and those that would continue to use xbox live if online were made free). And probably a crap load of other sources that I don't care to look up.

Sony gets to give online free to people by micro transactions (ps home sales) and by playstation plus revenue, so why can't Microsoft just offer online for free when they are getting SOOO much damn money? It's because they're the greediest console makers in the industry today.

Sam Fisher3025d ago

how can it be free if ur paying for gold in the first place, twitter, facebook and etc are (if you really think about it) being payed for the minute u hit the upgade to gold button.

and i like how ppl dont say ps3 is expensive anymore like when it first came out, i guess ppl wallets are getting hit hard now with M$ annual "investments". just find it funny, thats all.

what happened to the whole you got to pay to play motto. hmm, i guess ppl realized by now.

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big_silky3025d ago

I actually haven't seen any backlash from the 3 or 4 360 owners that still visit N4G, it's the "other" people causing a ruckus.

Bobbykotickrulesz3025d ago

I own a 360 and feel like it's a waste of money blowing an extra 10 dollars on services I can get for free.

All I want is to be able to play online, and I can get that free on PS3. I'm not a girl so Rapebook, Twitter and all that other garbage means nothing to me.

OSU_Gamer3025d ago

The majority of 360 owners don't care.

I talk to plenty of them that don't visit N4G. All they say is" I use XBL so much that its not a big deal."

And its awesome you can use PSN for free, but it just isn't the same. IT is AMAZING FREE service and Sony is the shit for making it so good, but I have both services and XBL is still worth paying for. No matter how much N4G PS3 fanboys want to complain, it is inexpensive.

As soon as Sony fixes the most basic things in PSN I will be happy to stop paying for XBL. Until then...stop telling everyone else that something is expensive. Get a job.

JoySticksFTW3025d ago

I have to admit, I use my 360 mainly for exclusives now

I use the PS3 for everything else including online

Though I do think that Xbox live is better in some areas than PSN, it's not so much better to warrant an annual fee

And I'm saying this as a PSN Plus user with an annual $50 subscription...

Xbox Live has a fee for functions that should be free for console users like playing online. Any talk of raising the price should be unacceptable.

T9X693025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

I have to agree with OSU_Gamer. I told all my friends on XBL about it before they got the email and not a single person visits N4G or any other gaming site at all really, and they don't have a problem with it. They just play games and enjoy themselves so paying $10 doesn't seem to bother them. I'm not particularly happy about it, but every site I go to with 360 owners or any of my XBL friends, don't have a problem with it. People on N4G are to caught up in the "console" war that they spend to much time bitching about everything instead of playing games. Gaming is an expensive hobby, so if you don't like the price hike stop paying for it, its not that hard.

@niceguyWii3 - You act like MS jacks the price up all the time, this is the first time in what, 7 years? XBL is a paid service to begin with, just like any other paid service its enviable for the price to go up eventually. If you don't own the 360, then don't worry about it, it doesn't concern you. If you do own a 360, pay for it if you enjoy the service, or cancel your membership. No one is forcing anyone to pay an extra $10 a year.

niceguyWii33025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

agreed^
@ osu It is not worth 60 dollars it isnt Xbl has nothing over psn to justify that price NOTHING!!! Any kind of so called app you have psn will always have thanks to its ....browser. What I dont get about you xbots fiends is that no matter how much they jack up they price you guys continue to bite, when will you guys say enough is enough?

OSU_Gamer3025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

Stop calling people xbots because people don't agree with your fanboy biased opinion. I own a launch PS3 and it is my favorite and it is the best console this gen. But how is a one console owning fanboy supposed to tell everyone else what the owners of the console they don't own should be doing. They can't.

"no matter how much they jack up they price you guys continue to bite, when will you guys say enough is enough?"

Interesting...as of now they have not increased the price of XBL once.

"Any kind of so called app you have psn will always have thanks to its ....browser. "
Let me know if the PSN browser can support cross-game chat, voice messaging, and a non-jacked up invite system.

8-bit3025d ago

"You act like MS jacks the price up all the time, this is the first time in what, 7 years?"

Just the though of paying for XBL for 7 years twists my stomach. At $50 a year that's $350 for an online service that is FREE every where else. You don't get dedicated servers, you get gimped twitter and facebook apps when even the wii can access the sites in their entirety through the browser that the 360 lacks. Just doesn't add up in my book. Not sure why some one would pay for it.

acky13025d ago

"Let me know if the PSN browser can support cross-game chat, voice messaging, and a non-jacked up invite system."

Is cross-game chat, voice messaging and a good invite system the only reasons that everyone says that xbl is far superior to psn? I don't think those extra features are worth paying for if that is the only differences.

mrcash3025d ago

The only advantage that live has imo, is the way you communicate with friedns invites/chat all that stuff. Everything feels more well put together. I think the main reason they are going to charge the extra money is because of the espn service they are bringing. I think they people that are really going to be screwed are the folks that usually buy the 3 months instead of yearly, which there is quite a bit of those. they cranked those up to 25$

gamingdroid3025d ago

I think people pay because they think it is worth it. A $10 increase on an annual subscription is relatively small, when your city, state and federal taxes gets hiked beyond belief every year. How much do you pay for cable service? Internet service? Cell phone service?

That is why people don't care! To them, it is minor fee for something they enjoy a lot.

But yeah, I would rather get Xbox Live free, but it isn't!

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Deafman4203025d ago

you haven't "seen" enough. 5 year xbox live gamer here and I've *backlashed*

divideby03025d ago

MS is just greeedy, more so than other companies and they take advantage of gamers..
If you disagree you are a fool... RROD and lying about it, totally rip off accessory prices and raising the cost of Live by adding free features..

all true cant make this stuff up..AND go look up the $$ MS is making off of Live and think what we are getting new.. FREE APPS

gold charter member of live...beeen paying for Live since day one..what is that like 5 yrs.....or so..

I bought 3 games for my 360 this year (ME2, Reach and Fable)...not enough games to play to justify paying for live anymo

OSU_Gamer3025d ago

"gold charter member of live...beeen paying for Live since day one..what is that like 5 yrs.....or so.. "

You have been paying for live for 5 years now. I have been paying since it first came about 7+ years ago. I payed the same amount then as I do now.
Don't you think its odd that MS basically had a monopoly on online console gaming services but didn't raise the price once? Can you please explain that. How does that show you that they are anything but greedy. They haven't raised the price in 7 years.

Call MS greedy for any other bad reason, but I don't think this is one of them.

divideby03025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

wow, I didnt realize I have been paying for Live for 7 yrs as you say..

from a GAMERS view point, what have they done to improve what we gamers really want to do.. PLAY GAMES...
as I said, they keep adding useless free crap apps.

PC and PSN remain free to play online games... what has MS done to compete with them from a GAMMING viewpoint... nothing have they embraced dedi servers, allowing file sharing akin to PC and PS3

please look up the amount of $$ MS makes on Live subs... and what do they do.... nothing relating to online gameplay...
oh boy new dashboard avatars,

OSU_Gamer3025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

I would hope you aren't a PSN + member.

Those xbox live arcade GAMES that aren't released on PSN? PSN has good downloadable titles, but so does XBL. You can argue that XBL titles are better.

Not to mention I can download those GAMES and other updates that make those GAMES 10 times faster on XBL.

The invite system for PSN to connect to those GAMES is broke. IT takes 2 button pushes to accept an XBL....try that with PSN.

"have they embraced dedi servers" BFBC2?

IF you want to talk about what they have for
GAMERS, then why can't I Ask why PSN doesn't have X-Game chat? Its an embarrassingly easy function to have.

Not to mention I have to type out messages to everyone instead of using voice.
I am a gamer, and that is part of gaming. So why don't you tell me how PSN is so much better but they can't do those SIMPLE things.

You guys claim that the extra features that XBL has are not enough to pay for XBL, but I just don't see how it is that hard for Sony to add them to PSN.

"file sharing" not sure what you are talking about

niceguyWii33025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

you are in denial, If you can play on pc and psn for free you should be able to play on xbox for free as well that is just a fact. No one gives a crap about lives so called features stuff that you can get from any web browser. If microsoft charged 100 bucks would you still pay? I bet you would, cant you see it's not worth it?

OSU_Gamer3025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

how is that a fact?

That is an opinion, and probably one of a fanboy.

XBL offers more than PSN. FACT

PS3 fanboys care more about the pricing of XBL than anyone else. FACT

I don't really care what you think. The majority of online console gaming is done on XBL. You can bitch about how you think online gaming service should always be free because the only console you have has free online, but do me a favor and deal with the fact that you are the minority. And then get a job.

edit:

"If you can play on pc and psn for free you should be able to play on xbox for free as well"

That is a dumb statement and you know it. PC online gaming should be free, but since Sony was late to the party they couldn't charge for online. You say I am in denial, but its funny to see people like you who think that Sony wouldn't charge if they could. And now because they were late to the party (and therefore cannot charge), all you PS3 fanboy hold everything else to those standards.

MS made online console gaming....who are you to tell them tat they shouldn't charge.

I would rather pay $0 dollars for online internet. I don't know who wouldn't...but that doesn't mean a cup of Grande Starbucks coffee a
MONTH is too much to pay for something that people use constantly.

I use XBL constantly. Stop telling me that I am paying too much.Again...get a job.

xTruthx3025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

Osu so you pay 50 bucks a year to have cross-game chat, voice messaging, and a non-jacked up invite system <---(according to you)? MS doesn't even give its own IP's dedicated servers while sony does and they don't charge for it.

I got a gaming console to play and have a lag free online experience. I didn't buy a console to chat, I have a phone for that, and even if i didnt have a phone now, most(if not all) of the games are coming with voice chat . So I rlly don't see ur point ?

You use xbl alot ? so you talk alot and cross game chat a lot with ur friends only ? Because if you say netflix or twitter i would just "lol" because you can watch free movies,anime, mangas, comics, music, tv and etc on your ps3 for free and some sites let you download their movies direct to your ps3.Twitter, facebooks, myspace, myyearbook etc can all be used on your ps3 browser and do a lot more than what the 360 offers.

So what is it exactly that you use 24/7 on your 360 ? I'm really intrigued

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jaytv-pyro3025d ago (Edited 3025d ago )

LEAVE GAMING FOREVER

JoySticksFTW3025d ago

lol, I wouldn't go that far... :)

MS is responsible for some great additions to gaming

Whether you love or hate it, Halo proved that FPS can be done well on consoles, at a time when gamers needed PC's for their FPS fix. There were others, like say GoldenEye but no one can deny Halo's contribution

I also think it's because of Xbox that PS3 owners get to enjoy PSN and a hard drive in every console

niceguyWii33025d ago

Hardrives were coming anyway with or without them. Imo Goldeneye was always what made fps relevant on consoles then came halo.

pippoppow3025d ago

They may have made online gaming popular this gen on consoles but it was coming regardless. They were just the first.

As for Halo, they were smart enough to buy the IP from Bungie. That's it. Now that Bungie has left the fold another new studio takes the reins. Most likely will not be as good.

Everything else has been a farce and travesty. They hardly have any top exclusives, charging more soon for the privilege to play online when it's free everywhere else, and continue to sell over priced hardware with poor workmanship.

MS has caused a rift in the gaming community. The best they can do is what they did this gen. Heights they most likely will never reach again. Gamers are on to their money hoarding, cutting corner schemes. Most PC and PS3 gamers will never touch an MS console along with some upset and dissatisfied 360 owners.

I would love for some new company to enter the gaming market. MS is the weakest link and would have to leave for it to happen. Wouldn't it be nice to have another console that would at least attempt to match Nintendo and Sony when it comes to quality exclusive content?

I'd love to see a Nintendo vs Sega fight again. Nintendo is in a good position to come out with a console that could rival spec wise other consoles next gen. If they did this and pushed for more original content they could rival Sony's efforts next gen. Unlikely Nintendo would go that rout but possible. So it would be left to another company to rival Sony if Nintendo continue down the same path they have this gen. It will take anothe company, definitely not MS, especially since they lost Devs instead of gaining this gen.

If another competitor came out with a console and strives to compete with Sony game for game, I'd support that company as well. Just like I supported Sega and Nintendo back in the 16bit era.

kasasensei3025d ago

-Free online for silver
-Less ads for silver & none for gold
-free games or dlc for gold
-dedicated servers for the biggest titles
-beta access for gold
-internet explorer for 360
-switch to real currency for everything
-more offers and price cuts for gold

Do that and the ps3 will never outsell the 360. :p

awesomeperson3025d ago

I see what you did there (your aim was to turn the XBL Gold/Silver system into the PSN's Standard PSN/PSN+ right?)

kasasensei3025d ago

Not really, because that is a list of the features i always wanted for the 360. I had it in mind since fall 2007.
But of course, now, it looks like a lot like the ps+, but that was not my attention.
Microsoft must do better than they do actually. Or the 360 will be their last console. And i do not want that.

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