Gamertag Radio writes: "I recorded this debate at the COD Black Ops event. HipHopGamer & Vicious696 debates about Kinect vs PS Move."
Watch the video. He owned Vicious. Dance Central CAN be done on the PlayStation Eye. Sony has Singstar +Dance. Dance Central is not that good. It is not. I love Harmonix, but it's nothing special.
Look at Sony Music. They are one of the biggest labels in the world! http://www.sonymusic.com/ Harmonix have to go to Sony for decent tracks! I'm sure Sony can make a better product if they wanted to with Singstar with artists like Michael Jackson, Usher, Elvis!
This was a terrible discussion... They didn't bring up any of Kinect's limitations what so ever. The were comparing it from a casual standpoint as their ENTIRE argument.. Kinect can only do stationary or rail based games because you can't move around a map without a controller. Kinect can only do gesture based games without buttons. Kinect hasn't been demonstrated playing game types that gamers actually play. Move has been proven on all gametypes to work. The core audience doesn't even have a choice but to go with Move.
I remember that Harmonix stated that they could bring Dance central to the ps3 so i dont know what the big deal is http://www.destructoid.com/... .Plus coming to sales i predict that natal will only outsell the ps move here in the states where the xbox360 clearly holds an advantage over the ps3... however speaking world-wide it will be close call but ps move will come out on top.
point 1: not everyone casual or hardcore bought a wii.i'm core,and i didn't see wii as a revolution because it didn't do what it claimed.even with motion+.so i didn't buy wii.but i do see Move as an evolution of the wiimote as the dualshock was to the original ps1 controller.and this is coming from someone that had 3 gamecubes and every other nintendo system.move creates deeper gameplay options over the wiimote. point 2: move will have online gaming.wii has poor online gaming.nintendo doesn't care about online as they want gamers to play together offline.but then,sony can do both.4 moves offline with friends *AND* a great online structure.again,sony can offer more options over point 3 the move is accurate.allows you to play as if you were playing in real life.wii sports may be fun.but it won't increase you gaming ability if all you have to do is flick your wrist and just waggle.in sony's sports game,you actually have to play as we seen with the dad and his son.that can be fun and increase you gaming ability. point 4 gamers always have to wait for nintendo's small selection of 1st party titles.when i had gamecube,i was waiting forever for 1st part games.so i sold it.won a second one in a contest.played it for awhile then sold that.then bought a cheap,used one later but my memory cards corrupted.so i had no need to go back to it.and most of nintendo's exclusive capcom titles came over to ps2.and with sony's 20+ 1st party developers,i don't have to wait as long on quality content.and sony has created many hits this gen that rival anything nintendo has made. point 5 kinect is limited.anyone that says otherwise is lying to themselves.no controller means a less deep experience.just look at the launch lineup.it's obvious just like the eyetoy ans pseye.but we can definitely see that move allows 3D interaction.and that's not even talking about 3D tvs.kinect has only showed 2D interaction.the same thing we have seen with eyetoy/pseye. point 6 and my final point lets say kinect sells more,does that mean it's quality is better?should i buy it because the masses are buying it like a fad?maybe i should go out and buy wiifit.that must be an awesome game for a core gamer like me.but i'm not fat and i'm pretty fit.i do real stuff to stay fit.if kinect sells more,what deep gameplay will it offer over move?sony still has the eye.it can head track,voice recognize,has facial recognition ,scanning of objects and gesture options too. (watch the first 20 seconds) http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... what will kinect offer gamers that is so ***DEEP***???? a $150 dollar dashboard remote?
After watching those vids I am convinced that the PSEye is more advanced than Kinect.
But with Kinect you don't have to twiddle your fingers to make menu selections! Clearly Kinect is superior. /s
One raged by lameboys over whose pile of shit motion controller is better? OOooohhh, lameboys For the Win: the prize, their name written in feces.
> > Alrighty then, forget those meds did ya
No one said kinect was better than move. The whole arguement was about which would sell more. And no matter what you think the majority of people out there are totally ignorant about gaming. Their choices will be determined by marketing not by being informed.
You just ended the move vs kinetc debate. Well done sir.
Apocalypse Shadow Too much points! They are not talking about witch is better they are talking about witch will sell more and i think Kinect will sell more and is true that this dance central will sell as hell and is not possible in move and is true that the perception of move is an upgrade wii and kinect in the other hand look fresh even with lag seems to me different. So is valid to say that Hip HOP gamer will have to give the belt!
I think you are in a deep deep dream dud. is time to wake up and get ready for the reality and stop been a fanboy
How is there still any sort of debate about this? The PS Move is the only motion control solution out of the two that will have any sort of positive effect on hardcore gaming. Kinect is a pure gimmick aimed purely at the casuals and core gamers shouldn't be interested in it because it's laggy, unresponsive, the hardware is limited and you can't play proper games on it. I'm pretty sure that's NOT what hardcore gamers want from their games. They like precision, responsiveness and feedback from their controllers. If Kinect had any shot at being any good, Microsoft shouldn't have removed that processing chip. Now it's good for nothing but casual and lifestyle games. PS Move has proved itself with real games, intuitative developer demos, and is suitable for any sort of game for any type of gamer. Kinect hasn't proved anything, other than it can provide experiences that the EyeToy was able to do years ago, and that the Playstation Eye can provide right now. And Microsoft has made it perfectly clear what their goal is with it. Kinect is a waste of resources and just a distraction to the industry. Now before anyone tries to have a go at me, I'm just being realistic here. Edit: On another note - It's kinda ironic that MS are touting Kinect as you being the controller (apparently making the experience more immersive), because when you have nothing to hold you are less attached to what you are doing within the game. When you have something to hold and interact with, you feel more connected. Microsoft really hasn't thought this through.
The GAMES on the Ps3 will sell the move when people see how awesome they are! The shoot, Killzone 3, Dead space 2, Heavy Rain, The Agent, Heroes on the Moves, Time Crisis 1 2 3 4, start the party, RESIDENT EVIL 5, Little Big Planet 2, Socom 4, and thats just in the first six months of the Launch... Thats more than the WII and Kenect Combined. However the Xbox fan base has already Preordered over 100,000 Kinects, Showing once again that HYPE can be more effective than Quality when selling a product....cough cough Halo reach...
I think Sony should set up eyetoy demo stations next to every Kinect demo station just to disprove the claim that Kinect is something new and never been done before...lol Is it just me that thinks it is almost offensive the so called " casual market" is really code for idiots who will buy any old c**p we put in front of them, and many people here seem to think this is a good strategy. I remember when Atari began to think like that, it led to the crash of the whole industry. Ultimately if the prize is casual gamers, surely you want them to continue to purchase your software and future hardware, Nintendo offer quality 1st party so they do not sell their audience short. MS seem to be on a snatch and grab mission, with a limited hardware and very poor quality of games, seriously who in their right minds will go rafting for more than a few times before the novelty wears thin. It is really sad the entire industry is not calling MS out on their shoddy snatch and grab but I suppose the American consumers are used to being fleeced with inferior products...cause they just want cheap, cheaper and cheaper still The emperor's new clothes designed to fleece you and leave you with a bitter taste in your mouth which I fear may have a negative effect on the entire industry long term. But yeah keep drinking the MS juice, it is the future of gaming, who need controllers, dancing like a nutter in the middle of the room is what we should all being doing...lol
MS will lead themselves to disaster with kinect, eyetoy stopped being supported because software sales was not good for the actual peripheral after the first adopters jumped on ship and found out jut how limited it was, eyetoy went on to sell 10 million, I predict the same fate for kinect, huge boost at first and will die off real quick as the games will be limited and gimped in many ways
Move > Kinect is pretty much the answer. inb4corporatedickeatersbitchi ngandmoaning
Sony's products are always more higher quality than Microsoft's goodies in terms of performance, looks & stability.. So therefore PS Move is better. IMO
No debate anymore, for me. Gonna get move & a navigation controller when the real games will be here (kz3 in mind <3 ). And kinect you ask? well, never. :p
lool that guy on kinect's side not even played the move and is in denail as move is more than a wii clone as already said by all the reviews move is the real deal for motion controls and kinect is not new at all...
One key element that ps move have over kinect is variety of games, something for everyone too play on the ps3. Kinect lacks variety.
There is no debate. The Move can be used w/ almost an game on planet earth (as an option ofcourse) and Kinect can`t. What else is there to argue?
@Montoya nuff said
Dear HipHopGamer, I think you and Vicious should hold a bet. ;) If Kinect sells more, you have to publicly apologize to him on your show. If Move sells more, he has to publicly apologize to you. Who is with me?
If you show a family PlayStation Move and then Kinect... ...they want Move. Casuals KNOW and will KNOW what Move is. Kinect is not different. Edit: Disagree all you want. Walk into a GameStop and show an uninformed buyer both Move and Kinect. See which one they pre-order. I've gotten Move pre-orders one-hundred percent of the time. Kinect may "seem" new to people...but they're fully aware of which motion controller will have better games. ;)
Thanks for recognizing Phil Harris and his efforts. Few people know about that situation.
I will tell you who is gonna buy ps move. THE people who don't own a wii will purchase move. If marketing is right. i only own a ps3 so i will buy this ps move. and i am sure the move will sell well.
They are not talking about witch is better they are talking about witch will sell more and i think Kinect will sell more and is true that this dance central will sell as hell and is not possible in move. So is valid to say that Hip HOP gamer will have to give the belt!
The guy defending Kinect has very valid points. He understands that the Move is better than the Kinect but little Timmy parents don't know that. They'll look at it and think that its another version of the Wii. Us real gamesrs know otherwise but those that don't follow gaming news won't know that. They'll see Kinect as something new (its not...) and will most likely buy that. For Sony to combat this they need to show more games that use only the PSeye like Kung Fu Rider and display them beside Kinect along with PS Move games to show the casual crowd that their product can have both types of experiences...but better.
The debate is about which one will sell more. I've seen a video where someone asks a random consumer at a Best Buy PS Move demo if they were going to get PS Move, and they said they will and they loved their Wii, so they plan on moving to the next gen. All M$ fanboys can talk about Kinect is if it will sell. If Kinect sells well then good for M$ not you fanboys. Us core gamers are left out of Kinect. They'll be like I told you Kinect will sell well, and I'll be like OK... I'll go back to having fun with my PS Move. I don't think Kinect will sell well just because of the lack of quality games. I'm not talking about core games, I'm talking about good casual games, Kinect seems to only have one and that's Dance Central. I honestly think Singstar +Move is going to be more fun than Dance Central Kinect, singing and dancing who ever thought of that? /s Core gamers giving PS Move a good support and I believe that's what going to be the key to the success of PS Move. PS Move has things Wii doesn't really have and that's real 3D tracking, true 1:1, good support of core games, augmented reality, HD visuals, online gaming, 3D gaming, and great exclusives.
PS MOVE over 60+ games will be supports that we know of so far with hardcore gamers in mind. KINECT only 15 games will be supported all on rails and mini game bull shit making you look like retards that HALO & COD fans won't buy / play.
Im just gonna comment on the title and not the article or whatever HHG does.. He is annoying and IGNIT.. So lets just say one of this MOTION GAMING DEVICES has shown multiple style games and the accuracy with it.. Plus shown live demos of them in hardcore titles and has announced it with other big game names.. The Other hasnt.. You choose
MOVE will sell FAR more than this broken camera called Kinect,MOVE sales wont last for 1 or 2 months its going to sell for as long as Ps3 is supported by Sony. . oh & that annoying retarded noob who kept saying "thank you thank you" to HHG needs to shut the hell up or go play some generic xbox shooters.
There's no debate, Move works with any type of game and Kinect is limited to simple mini-games and lags terribly.
Well - another comparison that settles it. Is there any non-MS backed review that actually thinks Kinect is better?
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