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Submitted by mephman 1428d ago | news

Team17: Kinect Is A Headache To Work With

GamingUnion.net: "Many developers and analysts have spoken about Kinect's limitations, mainly because it has no buttons, and you can now add Team17 to that list." (Kinect, Xbox 360)

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bradlinho  +   1428d ago
There's a surprise. Hands up if you're still excited about Kinect?
Cheeseknight28  +   1428d ago
Let me know when it gets games, then I might be excited. Meanwhile, I'll be playing real 360 and PS3 games.

To all those companies out there telling us to "give it a shot" (Rare) let me know when you develop something good then MAYBE I'll dump $200 on a possible failure.
GreenRingOfLife  +   1428d ago
who is Team 17.
O right a nobody studio.
pimpmaster  +   1428d ago
it looks like there learning from the ps3.
InfectedDK  +   1428d ago
Team 17 tfw.
Move ftw.
Bobbykotickrulesz  +   1428d ago
Who is GreenRingOfLife?
O right a nobody douchebag.
radphil  +   1428d ago
@GreenRingOfLife

If you never played any of the Worms games, then you might as well call yourself a non-gamer and a nobody yourself.
KingME  +   1428d ago
Hey PS3 Gamers
Does this article give any of you a bit of Déjà vu?
Godmars290  +   1428d ago
@GreenRingOfLife
Guessing that mention of Worms doesn't ring any bells...
Crawfail  +   1428d ago
@GROL
That's such a predictable, dickhead thing to say.

"These guys aren't well known, the can't know ANYTHING about hardware or making games."

God forbid they might actually have a valid point when tossers like you cover their ears and scream so they can't hear what they have to say.

Alien Breed is a brilliant game and is on XBLA. As is Worms.
ZombieAutopsy  +   1428d ago
@greenring
"Team17 is still an independent games studio with around 75 staff members. This makes it one of the longest surviving independent developers, now into its 21st year (it turned 20 on Dec 5, 2009)"

Yea nobodys /s
Shadow Flare  +   1428d ago
Uh oh...
Team 17 have opened a can of worms here
Baka-akaB  +   1428d ago
@greendouchebag

They however will most likely outlive Rare , a studio only one step away from from probable dissolution into the dashboard and live interface teams
0mega4   1428d ago | Offensive
Army_of_Darkness  +   1428d ago
Sure its a headache to work with..
But gawddamn, its entertaining to watch people try to play the games on that thing! hahaha!
4pocalyps3  +   1428d ago
@ GROL
Obvious troll...is obvious.

Serious though you don't know who Team 17 is? I've had the opportunity to meet some of the developers and they're an amazing bunch. Very talented. Feel sorry for you if you don't know who they are.
badz149  +   1428d ago
@Green
nobody? what about you? a troll 1000X more a nobody to the industry than them! I think you got wormed in the brain!
Rainstorm81  +   1428d ago
How in the hell did this happen in 1 generation?
first it was the ps3 with difficult to use hardware and limited exclusive games.

Now the tables have turned and its the 360 with limited exclusive software and and difficult to use Natal hardware.

My mind is offically boggled....>__<
Mustang300C2012  +   1428d ago
Agreed as in who the hell is this one company?
RankFTW  +   1428d ago
What are you like 5 years old?
Motorola  +   1428d ago
How do you not know these guys? Thats just a sad excuse Im sorry....
Baka-akaB  +   1428d ago
it shows you who knows nothing about videogames , and started only with the generic and most common popular franchises
laoboy_Smoke  +   1428d ago
@ greendouche n RH3
wats jus as embarrassing is tha 9 or so hoes agreeing wit yall... WORMS is great times 4 me personally ; )
NarooN  +   1428d ago
RedHemi300c was literally born yesterday.
badz149  +   1428d ago
@RedHemi300c
this kid probably started gaming since the xbox era and now he's trying to act all big! how cute...
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electricshadow  +   1428d ago
@ GreenRingOfLife
By that comment, you have proved you're a ten-year-old. Team17 made the Worms games, one of the funnest games I have ever played. You're probably trolling, but at least try harder in the future.
MiloGarret  +   1428d ago
don't call people children and then write 'funnest'
Crawfail  +   1428d ago
@stupidsega
Don't you like having fun?

If you're being pedantic about the actual word, here:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wi...
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electricshadow  +   1428d ago
@StupidSega
Given his (her?) track record, it's fair to say that GreenRingOfLife is a child. Posting ignorant comments that only fanboys would say. I mistyped one word, yes, I'm sorry, my bad.
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badz149  +   1428d ago
isn't "funnest" an actual word?
it is, right? english is not my 1st language and I tried using Word and it's not there. so, maybe not but I think I got what you wanna say Shadow. WORM is a hell lot of fun! even after so many years, never got tired of it! still playing it constantly until now!
Pillville  +   1428d ago
@StupidSega

Better teach Steve Jobs some grammar

http://www.blogcdn.com/www....
jack_burt0n  +   1428d ago
common sense.
Jazz4108  +   1427d ago
Four years later and they still cant program the install machine.
darthv72  +   1428d ago
curious...
Is MS not allowing companies to make hybrid games for this device at launch? Something like when the 360 launched and it was a requirement that all games be at minimum 720p.

I know the use of a controller and the kinect is possible. MS never said you couldnt do both but they are more talkative about the controller free vision. If a dev wants to make a game using both there should not be any penalty (unless there is a clause in the contract).
Unicron  +   1428d ago
Sorry but I have to ask... why market an add on where "you are the controller!".... then say people also need to use a controller?

That seems rather stupid to me personally.
darthv72  +   1428d ago
good point
If it delivers games that you dont need the controller for then it is correct in marketing. The use of a controller would then be an option depending on the game.

It all depends on how aggressive the main companies want to implement their respected motion support in the games. Sony seems relaxed in that if you dont have move, no matter as you can play the games with a ds3.

MS on the other hand is talking up the full body type games first and will bring in the half and half ones later. Games right now that require kinect as opposed to games that use move an an option I guess.

I just am wondering if the launch will only consist of non controller supported kinect titles or will there be a few that go hand in hand.
SHOTGUNOWNAGE   1428d ago | Spam
Godmars290  +   1428d ago
They are talking about making Kinect+controller titles later, but then they say a lot of things.

Just have to wait and see if their, and the general consumer, patience holds up. Would funny, and a bit sad, to see MS's own Kinect support fold overnight like it did for their cell phone. Especially considering all the build up an hype.
Sarcasm  +   1428d ago
That's the main problem, making Kinect a supplement controller instead of a replacement, it causes problems like this.

I remember when Project Natal was first theorized and we had discussions on something like Gears of War 3. Use the controller, but in certain sections you can use your hand gestures to navigate a map, or whatever.

But now that's not possible unless MS just eats their words and allows developers to do both.
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Agent_Cody_Banks  +   1428d ago
Kinect is a disaster. MS might as well cancel production now.
Sandal  +   1428d ago
Sounds like Team17 should be working with Move then
http://i56.tinypic.com/ev9n...
Agent_Cody_Banks  +   1428d ago
Enchantment!
Solid_Snakeps3  +   1428d ago
Enchantment?
Sandal  +   1428d ago
Enchantment!
4pocalyps3  +   1428d ago
@Sandal
Lmfao +bubbles
RankFTW  +   1428d ago
Enchantment!
Snakefist30  +   1428d ago
Enchantment!
JDouglasGU  +   1428d ago
let the flame war begin!
unknownhero1123  +   1428d ago
no....
let mortal kombat begin!
TheObserver  +   1428d ago
Team 17 make WORMS I believe, fun game.
Jrome  +   1428d ago
*gets out the sun tan lotion*
It's about to get hot in here.
FuturePerfect  +   1428d ago
And Play with
You Noob  +   1428d ago
The Truth Hurt uh??? ;D
All_4_One  +   1428d ago
I don`t see how Kinect wouldn`t give somebody a headache. I mean, I wouldn`t want to sit *ahem*...stand while holding my arms up in front of me the entire time I play. I tend to have less frequent, but long, and drawn-out gaming sessions as opposed to playing frequently in small increments, and I don`t see how Kinect would be relaxing, entertaining, or even fun for somebody like me.
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GeoramA  +   1428d ago
Ouch
Kinect is going to fizzle out pretty fast. Probably quicker than the Dreamcast.

No way anybody's paying $150 for something with this much negative press.
Tone  +   1428d ago
team 17 go way back to the amiga days.. alien breed.. worms.. the list goes on.
tiamat5  +   1428d ago
Oh well. I have warned people a millions time and they refuse to listen. Kinect has huge limitations. I say this not as a fanboy or a Kinect hater but as a fellow gamer. If you think this is a step towards VR gaming you will be sorely disappointed
Acquiescence  +   1428d ago
If Kinect is a comerical success...
I'll gouge my eyes out, pop them up my butt, shit them out and insert them back into my eye sockets again.
Tron_Rocks  +   1428d ago
Ill send you a spoon
To help gouge your eyes
Godmars290  +   1428d ago
I'll sent you a camcorder
So you can record it.
Liquid_Ocelot  +   1428d ago
I'll send you a piece of paper with "LOL!" written on it, but you won't be able to see it.. Not until you put those 'shitty' eyes back :)
Obama  +   1428d ago
"It's a headache. Because there's no buttons. It's just, you are so limited."

That's what I have been saying ALL along.
No Way  +   1427d ago
@Obama -
Well, of course you would say it Obama.. whatta surprise.
But, it just doesn't quite mean as much when you say it. :)
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Lazy_Gamer  +   1428d ago
Looks like Microsoft should spend more money on their hardware instead of bribing the media. Because it appears that a kinection error has occured between M$ and ... well, the rest of the gaming community!
Tron_Rocks  +   1428d ago
Kinect will be great fun
Sorry to hear Team 17 does not have the vision or creative development to make a game for Kinect. They mention Worms in the article WTF? Like you would play that game with Kinect?!?

Kinect is the next game evolutionary step in gaming in so many ways. Trolls and Flanboys will argue that is fine you are entitled to your opinion.
PS3-247  +   1428d ago
Where did it say Team 17 didn't have the vision or creative development? Kinect is limited without buttons. Even Halo and COD won't work with Kinect. Kinect might be fun to you but how long will that fun last when Kinect won't support the games you enjoy the most.
Baka-akaB  +   1428d ago
regardless of the kinect matters , claiming that team17 , after worms and other things lack creativity or vision is rather amusing , and sad at the same time .
diatom  +   1428d ago
The dodo was the next evolutionary step in birds too..
unknownhero1123  +   1428d ago
and quite tasty to some!
PS3-247  +   1428d ago
Not looking good at all for Kinect.
Pootangpie  +   1428d ago
the same could be said about the PS3 during it's launch
pot meet kettle
shoptrade2   1428d ago | Spam
hiredhelp  +   1428d ago
GreenRingOfLife
you NOOB Team 17 was around b4 you got worms in your pants. years m8 dating back in the late 80's . you plonka
WIIIS1  +   1428d ago
Team 17 - Just another one of those Lazy Developers Hahahaha!
Roonie  +   1428d ago
Kinect
Fails so hard.
Liquid_Ocelot  +   1428d ago
Damn, it's been a while.. Last time I played a Worms™ game was with my little cousin a bunch of years ago. Gotta 'cop their last game man:)
Pootangpie  +   1428d ago
worms sucked ever since after worms armaggedon
when they do something that I care about again then there opinion will be validated in the mean time I don't give 2 ****'s about Move or Kinect and I hope both fail
farrockpr   1428d ago | Spam
Corrwin  +   1428d ago
Team 17 hasn't tried anything new since the 90s
Are we surprised they don't like anything new?
devilhunterx  +   1428d ago
pew pew pew?
btk  +   1427d ago
Oh Omega4.... Yooohooo
Care to spin this one for us? Need a good laugh for the weekend.
btk  +   1427d ago
Overpriced EyeToy. Confirmed.
jalen247  +   1427d ago
Shame...I don't think Microsoft will get the developer support that will be needed for Kinect to be successful.

Sony faced a little of this in 2006 but the difference here is that Sony can survive on their own first party games Microsoft can not.
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