Was the decision to release Final Fantasy XIII on both PS3 and 360 a good one?
. Good for Square Enix, I guess...
I Bought it for the ps3 my brother for the 360. We both couldn't find the motivation to try and finish it. I think I'm done with the FF series on consoles. I'll stick with the MMO's. don't give a rat's a$$ about the graphics. If they made a Devil May Cry RPG with no jumping. FF13 would be it.
I've been a FF fan for a very long time, and I could not find it in me to finish FF13. It was one of the biggest letdowns for me this gen.
one of the biggest let downs for me in the entire history of gaming.
"We both couldn't find the motivation to try and finish it" yup same feeling here JRPG's are just the same bullshit as before like i said before MASS EFFECT, FALLOUT and ELDER SCROLLS is the future.
Ps3 gamers don't buy games! /s
That piece of crap sold so many? booo!
Me too, I just got bored of FF and didn't finish it.
It's not just me that couldnt finish it. I started playing it since its release. got up until that barth dude the second time thought meh cba fighting him I'll do it later. *4months later* I'm so bored I'll put in FF13. Play it, kill barth after aaaages. The game then procedes to give me the middle finger and crash. I have not touched it ever since >_<
Notice how it is good news for a Ps3 game! Now if it were good news for a different console, these numbers would be discredited as false! People would laugh at it and make comments about VGchartz numbers being a joke! You gotta love N4G... it's the only place where logic is irrelevant! Japan gave it a significant edge though... though I doubt most of you actually looked at the numbers. You probably just saw the title and commented, but who cares right!
ya I couldn't finish it either. the story was cringe worthy and the gameplay was like FF easy mode just no challenge whatsoever,lose a battle start exactly were you lost. plus even when it opened up on granpulse there was nothing there sure you could run around in a big field but it was nearly empty. I think I got to that big tower thing before I stopped playing.
3 times as much people got the 1 disk and hd version. EDIT Oh and M$ keep spending your money on advertising and not using it to make your own games.
yea its funny how they put millions into advertising when they could use it to make some more exclusive games for their system. The more you have for your system the better it stands out.
Hey look everyone, it's from vgcharz. You know, that place you Ps3 fans keep labeling as a completely unreliable source?
SE just ****ing sucks, hell what about Persona, VC, Demon's Souls...
FF 13 wasnt that bad it didnt feel like a traditional ff though it felt like its own spin off. it was linear but the oerba part was a glimmer of what the game could be like the story was a 7/10 MUSIC 10/10 I Remember the battle theme and some bg songs perfectly the battle system was great i still wasted like 30 hours to beat it and the boss battle was hard because i under trained to make it a challenge.
Agreed! If it was a stand alone title with a different name, it would have probably got the respect it deserved, but they attached the FF name to it which caused fans to expect it to be similar to past games... which is what ended up hurting it!
1.51ml vs 2.38ml when they are compared where they BOTH released. Pretty much confirms FFVSXIII will be at minium a timed exclusive. @Rumor Monger A main final fantasy game has never been released on the Xbox before and the xbox brand isn't exactly known for its JRPG fanbase so its impressive no matter who got advertising.
FF13 was only advertised on 360, keep that in mind
Rumor Monger stated a fact, got a disagree. Lovely! Have a bubble, my friend.
FFXII did 1.76ml in its first week being a PlayStation exclusive.
lol yea that FFXIII 360 was so useless XD
And don't forget, Final Fantasy advertised on the 360, using PS3 screenshots. The Advertising Standards Authority in the UK is currently investigating Square for false advertising for using the PS3 version's screens to try to push the inferior 360 version.
In the UK. Never saw an advert say 360 and Ps3. Alwasy "available on xbox 360". But seriously are people really surprised?
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3) Square Enix America: 1.13 Japan: 1.86 Europe: 1.25 total: 4.24 Final Fantasy XIII (X360) Square Enix America: 0.82 Japan: 0.00 Europe: 0.69 total: 1.51 Bet Wada is kicking himself in the nuts since his "methods" (western focus) are not working and the only thing he's getting is the disappointment of Real FF Fans that still waiting for the Best, the way SE was sided to the x360, making exclusives JRPG games that didn't helped MS and SE in Japan at all, then FF13 that didn't break any sales record being multiplat, the fact that SE knew they couldn't release FF13 for x360 in Japan cos they knew it wasn't to work out for then like they were expecting since the beginning of this Gen, the complain of the Fans for feeling the game wasn't on par with other iterations, it's time for Wada to realize that FF belongs to PlayStation Fans now and he can't change that, so the best thing he can do is just make the Developers work harder to deliver the Best for FFvs13 on PS3...
one person had to buy ff 13 in japan for the 360 lol
@fatstarr They couldn't. It was exclusive on PS3 only in Japan. The 360 version was in NA and EU. The system does bad enough as is, in the region of JP. The best they would have gotten is maybe a few thousand, if at that.
Final Fantasy XI was released on the 360.
was not a main part of the FF series. Final fantasy in name but not in the vein of the type of single player adventure/rpg FF games had been known for. XI was more of a way to get into the everquest MMO type of game for Square.
XI and XIV are part of the main series only titles like crisis core or FFX-2 are spin -off that's WHY they keep increasing the number !!!!
Omega4 you should just change your name to spincycle and change your avatar to a washing machine. No joke.
A timed release for the 360 would be a disaster. More so if the game's optimized for the PS3, and Square's hands would be tied in regards to content.
Neither had one been released on PS3 Omega, and you cut out JP sales... you think the 360 version of XIII would sell in Japan... ? really? And if VS is developed for PS3, it won't run on 360. It'll be built around the PS3 architecture, which has presumably already started. I dunno why people care though, we all know XIII sucked.
porting from the PS3 to the 360 isn't nearly as difficult because the methods that Sony makes developers use actually makes a 360 game run better
Maybe. But FXIII was already forced to be compressed, and split into multiple discs. VS XIII promises to be larger, and less linear, which would mean further compressed, and constant disc swapping as player moved between the in-game regions.
1.51 million sales is a big number to ignore. I don't think FFVSXIII will be a exclusive. It will come both to the PS3 and X360. Square will not ignore the X360 sales. They are not dumb.
So much spins!
a lot of ps3 owners did not buy ff13, me included. Because it went multi at the last minute and got delayed plus cuts where made. So the sale's figure would have gone up more on ps3 .....ff13 could have been so much better....hopefully versus will repair the damage...
"1.51ml vs 2.38ml when they are compared where they BOTH released. Pretty much confirms FFVSXIII will be at minium a timed exclusive. " How on Earth did you come to this illogical conclusion?
through the use of logical numbers? The fact that in the west (where most PS3s are sold) the 360 version did really well considering it's market base and an action game will do even better numbers on the 360. They've got to earn money and if they can port a game over with minimal fuss and get Microsoft to cut the extra cost of multiple dvds then I don't see why they wouldn't
"get Microsoft to cut the extra cost of multiple dvds then I don't see why they wouldn't" That kinda killed it right there: "get Microsoft to". Companies don't get MS to do something. :p
If it was to be released on the 360 i think it would lose about 80 percent of it's ps3 sales and most of the series fanbase would just leave it forever. I know I would if by release day i started hearing that the games content got cut and the world map and story were shortened to fit on 3 disks.
Now that they made a Tons of cash can they ANNOUNCE KINGDOM HEARTS 3?
since when is 1.51 million a flop
since heavy rain.
well many ps3 gamers skipped it,..including me,.. It was probably that linear and stupefied because dvd9 and newcomers,.. SE really fucked up with this one,.. I really don't mind more gamers potentially get to play it,.. But if that means screwing it up for everyone else,.. fuck give them a different game,.. a new Ip or something,.. This was clearly no ones favorite FF,..not by a long shot,..
360 already got enough ip's from square this gen and none of them did well enough to really warrant a sequel or anything. FF13's success was based on heavy marketing and exclusive bundles and the FF name and it still only did half of the ps3. If ff13 had stayed a ps3 exclusive then I guarantee that it would have sold 5 million or more alone on the ps3. I think some people got turned off when they heard content was cut and it pretty much turned into a corridor rpg.
Everyone should bookmark Dance's comment and refer to it the next time a PS3 exclusive sells 1.5 million.
"since when is 1.51 million a flop" Final Fantasy is one of the biggest series in the gaming world. It would be like Halo or Mario selling 1.5 million.
after like 2 seconds :p No really 1.51 million on a shitty no port that didn't even use good compression technology on the 360 if they had just used in game cinema(that actually looked better on the 360 then the crappy bink video) the game could have fit on 2 DVDs max and maybe put on one... wasn't the actual game data only 6.5 gigs?
for a well known game it is, for a new ip it is not, FF is famous for selling atleast 6m+
will not be on 360 as its a ps3 exclusive goodwork sony if had been ps3 exclusive it would have sold more than that even tekken got hurt in the sale departrment because it went multi if it had been ps3 exclusive it would have sold that doubled amount
360 version not sold in japan vgchartz oh and its vgchartz
Without taking JPN into consideration the PS3 version still outsold the 360 version.
would that make it the first multiplatform game to do that? edit: thanks sayonara. What other multiplat titles have sold more on ps3?
Ya by 879,000 units. Not very impressive for a game that is associated to the PS3.
Except the advertisements were all Xbox 360. I would say that qualifies it as a game associated more with the Xbox 360.
nope big i say that assiociates it with the ps3 since it pretty much out sold the console it was advertised for thats like having 2 hondas that are exactly the same we are talking hypothetically here having one advertised and the other not advertised and having the advertised version out sold by the non advertised version which is just sad
No, Darth, plenty of multis have sold better on PS3 worldwide than on 360 and esp those witha long PS heritage like RE5, SF4, Fifa and TR:U. Then you had games like DMC4 and GTA4 which, though they did sell more 360 versions in total actually sold to a higher percentage opf PS3 owners and would have prolly outsold the 360 version had the consoles sold numbers been as close as they now are. It's not unheard of for a PS3 multi to outsell the 360 version in areas outside of TPS/FPS even if it's not the norm. Bayonetta, as the weaker version, also sold best on the PS3 IIRC.
Such as many of the titles you listed RE 5, Street Figther 4, Bayonetta etc are Japanese games and we all know that Microsoft has to go through a hurdle that Sony and Nintendo doesn't have to simply because they are a American Company. The Japanese doesn't support games from western developers and they don't support consoles from American companies. That's why their bestselling games at the end of the year are always made in Japan meanwhile in Europe and America there's always a mixture. In those Japanese games you mentioned the difference came from Japan especially with Bayonetta where the Japanese overwhelmingly chose to buy the weaker version instead of getting it on the 360. Now to your other part about TR:U. TR:U was released near Gears of War 2 and Fable 2 two of the 360's biggest ips so of course 360 owners are going to buy the microsoft published title over a third party one. If TR:U released near MGS4 and Uncharted 2 I would bet you that the 360 version of TR would have outsold the PS3 version. And finally about your DMC 4 and GTA 4 comment. DMC 4 actually sold better on the PS3 because once again it's a Japanese game so they bought the Japanese game on the PS3 and basically ignored the 360 version. Now on Grand theft Auto since it's a Western title that game is ignored in Japan so 98% of its sales are from the west. America has always been the biggest market for the game with Europe being a distant second. Since the 360 still has a major lead in America and are basically tied in Europe GTA would still SELL THE BEST on the 360. Also why are you trying to use percentage when talking about total sales. I'm sure GTA 3, Vice City, Metal Gear Solid 2 substance etc sold to a higher percentage on the original xbox when compared to the ps2 as well but nobody would ever say that if the xbox had been closer to the ps2 it would have outsold it there are many other factors that could come in to play so you are just making some pie in the sky predictions based on nothing but your feelings when talking about GTA sales on the 360 and PS3.
That could be taking into consideration. Oh but the wii kills that argument since the year headstart didn't stop it from passing the 360 ww sales. So no it doesn't work for the ps3. Plus ps2 had 140 million units sold. So they should have passed the 360 along time ago.
Let's not bring the Wii into a conversation of next gen consoles please. No offense but compared to the 360 and Ps3 the Wii is fisher price. Nothing wrong with that but IMO that is how things are.
And if it was sold in Japan? I mean, given the Xbox has an install base 1/5th the size there, is the inferior version of the game in this case, has less branding associated with the series, and of its 1/5th size install base further a probably large portion of these are multi system owners (which again would logically by en large purchase the better performing/reviewed version of the two). It's sales wouldn't have amounted to much of anything on the Xbox360 in Japan - which is likely the reason it wasn't released in that territory (after all it was Squares decision not even to bother with that version in that state in that territory; they clearly didn't believe there was some hidden goldmine in it). I do agree with you about Vgchartz, though. Their numbers are just random nonsense - the sales difference could be that big, it could be less, it could be even bigger (though historically, their numbers tend to under-represent PS3 sales and over-represent 360's sales - particularly across Europe, so if anything the last option is probably the most likely).
I don't think a lot of folks that have both would opt for getting it on a new system rather than sticking with Sony. If they had both systems, that is.