According to the latest google trends, Xbox 360 was ahead of the PS3 for most of the season. And only recently PS3 seems to be catching up with XBox 360, as it is becoming more affordable and has more games.
With time people gets better knowledge of PS3 features while at same time strong game titles are getting out, next 2/3 years we should see PS3 replacing good space PS2 owns now in gamer's home leaving other systems behind. PS3's features like PSP connectivity, Video on Demand, very low failure rate, joined with new Home Service to be launched this October (as also PES 2008 and GT5 Prologue get out) will glue gamers on PS3 world as never before super boosting sales worldwide. Japan is where gamers are well informed about PS3 and this upcoming features and games makes all the point when gamers look for a system. I own one x360 too and its nice interface for users, but not very functional and not very open about 3th party hardware, PS3's hard drive is very easy to replace to any other compatible while x360 don't allow nothing else than hard drives supplied by MS. PlayStation Network (PSN) is FREE while x360 Live is PAYED, here we have one big PLUS for Sony's PS3. Mixing all this with PS3 power and integrated Blu-Ray player, it's hard to PS3 NOT TO WIN.
i laughed at the red ring of death console since PS3 launched in Japan. Im still laughing.
Don't laugh at the 360, its a good system but just not better then the PS3 PS3 will catch up to the 360 pretty soon as expected, from knowledge anyone who is not on 1 sided system choice knows that Its a Playstation brand and plus games coming out with it being affordable then before, you can see the big change EDIT: oh right sori there but I weren't angry or anything when saying that lol
im talking about Japan. PS3 is already ahead of xbox 360.
I cant wait for FFVII: AC Final Cut on blu-ray. it will take High Def quality t0 the limit
or their idiot tastes in idiotic games =]
U know i use to own a wii and a 360 core. i traded both for an elite. i also own a ps3. 3/4 months ago i always thaught the ps3 would be better than the 360 once it has more games. i know 360 came out in 2005. but people dont care, it has more games so it was smart to release it early. now the time is here its gonna get everything by 2008. i think ps3 will win VG war by 2010 if not, then 8
I would hardly say the sales support them 'lovin' the ps3 but they sure do with the wii and th ds
Doesn't bother me I find most japanese games to be uninteresting and sub par when it comes to elements that I enjoy in games like storyline, plot and gameplay. EDIT: Nope I am an old PC gamer and only reason I got back into console gaming is because the great game developers (pc game developers) started making games for consoles. I prefer western RPGs, found most JRPGs to have same old save the world and save the princess storylines combine that with awful dialog and getting attacked every 5 steps. You have a mediocre gaming experience.
Oh so your being sarcastic right. yeh u have to be. most games are made by Jap companies. and jap rpgs are better than crappy western rpg's like oblivion (which i never played)
@ 5.1 You have not played Oblivion, but you call it crap? Give it a good try when you get a chance. I stated playing it about 2 weeks ago, and have yet to put the game down. Granted I am playing on PC... but my god it's just a fantastic game. The sheer scope of the game is just amazing. You really should try it before you judge it so harshly.
Other than the incorrect assessment of Oblivion, he's got a point, of course. Japanese games put a much greater of emphasis on story than most western developers. @RadientFlux: You obviously haven't played any of the Suikoden games, as well as many other quality story-based Japanese games. WRPGs are as confined by cliches as any JRPGs, such as the inclusion of elves and dwarves in many titles.
@Vertius: I did say most JRPGs so while I think 80% of RPGs that come out of Japan are garbage there are still a few gems. The same goes WRPGs but if given the choice I would rather play a game like Planescape Torment then Final Fantasy 7. I still disagree that Japanese developers but great emphasis on story but then it just my personal preference.
PEOPLE DON"T BELIEVE THIS!!! I'm not Japanese, and I HATE the Xbox. So this is totally false.....AAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHA
Haha actually I thought also this was pretty funny. Although I am sorry for your as you are the only non Japanese with that feeling. Besides of course those minions from Ken & Kaz. But you as Bill I didn't expect it man
Bill cracks me up daily ahahaha!!
Wrong actually. The Japanese love the Wii and Hate the PS360
Who wants to bet someone is going to say one of the following things. 1. PS3 is going to win 2. Play Beyond 3. This is Living 4. Red Rings of Death
Ill hedge my bets and say.....you yourself will say them first. Am i right?
You already said them sucka
ROFL I got pwned!
lol as stated u already said them lol gd one odion...that made my day :)
killed it. lol
Xbox 360 is loved in North America because it's a native product, same thing with PS3 and Wii in Japan. It's not a mystery, it's human psychology.
I believe that in Japan pepole are very brand loyal, not only because it's japanese, but because they have a special relation to a certain brand. It's much harder to penetrate the jap marked with new brands. Just my impression though. Also, the PS3 is really not doing to good in jap compared to the Wii. Nintento reigns supreme i the land of the rising sun.
how do you explain ps1 success and how do you explain xbox1 getting thrashed to death by ps2? your arguement is't sound.
this isn't a post about the ps3 360 wii, this is about ps3/360,stick to the title!
Patriotism? Really? Or is is more about personal tastes? Japanese love Apple (Mac and iPod), GAP, Ford (cute small cars), Mcdonalds. Last I checked those were AMERICAN! Microsoft = EVIL! GREEDY! DICTATORSHIP! So, Japan's "hate" for the 360 has less to do with it being American and more about not liking evil companies!
It's common knowledge that Asians are racist bigots when it comes to buying American products. At least we can overlook their bigotry and buy their Wii (very ironic name, no?)
It's homemade but the american products are known for being bad, sadly microsoft just proved that. Then again i hate to be lied to and sold bs over, and over, and over,.....
The Japanese are extremely loyal. They love their own. But then again, they also love the mullet hair style. Not to mention a bunch of mediocre games. The Japanese also are not big fans of shooters or games where you get to control the camera. They like the camera set for you. The Japanese are weird like that.
It's not nessecarily that they love their own. Like european luxury and sports cars have a higher status on Japan than jap cars. Or foreign actors and music stars have a higher status than their jap counterparts.
maybe you havent played japanese games like metal gear solid 3, ninja gaiden black and sigma, resident evil series, those are all games that japs produced, and they all can move the camera angles in them , just do a little research before you just type junk on here , thanks
I do do research, idiot. I never said all Japanese games were bad, I just said many that THEY LIKE TO PLAY are mediocre. I've read articles before supporting that the Japanese like games that are easier, and where the camera is stationary. I've played Metal Gear Solid and RE4. Two of my favorite games ever. Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been awhile, but aren't the camera angles stationary in MGS and most RE games (except for 4?). Also, just because a game is made by a Jap. company, doesn't mean it's aimed towards Japanese players. The Japanese like happy, shiny games, not shooters or violent slashers for the most part. They just simply have different tastes and are incredibly loyal to the Sony and Nintendo brands. Read posts more carefully before replying, thanks.
How the (f word) is this news or new info for that matter ?
As long as the 360 is slaughtering the PS3 in the worlds biggest video game market, the America's, I have no worry's about what's going on in the much smaller market called Japan. Plus, it's a cultural thing, just look how they love those boring JRPG so much, those games are quite awful.
Japan is the second-largest market, actually. Hardly small. Coupled with how many of the important developers are Japanese, it's very important that a console gains a foothold there. And thank you for your opinion on JRPGs. Go shoot something.
slaughtering the ps3? it has been out 9 months and has made up over half of the original 360 lead. plus, over the next year, sony has huge first party or exclusive titles coming and i've heard nothing about what'coming for ms next year. plus, ms has to deal with the 360 RROD and decide on ONE machine to sell. having 4 or 5 skus isn't going to work. it appears sony is catching up at a fast rate.
1. ps3 has not made up over half of the 360 lead... 2.360 has the same amount, if not more, of exclusives coming this year and as for next year: Banjo Kazooie 3 Alan Wake Halo Wars Too Human Dark Messiah Fable 2 Gears of war 2 (possibly) Peter Jacksons Halo Project And I know theres some i missed (I'm terrible at these lists) I will agree that ps3 has a better 2008 lineup so far but 360 also has some worthy games lined up for 08.... 3. MS will have the RROD problem fixed with the release of the falcon chip set and as far as SKU's go Sony is almost just as bad... 4. I don't know where u get the idea sony is catching up at a "fast" rate but w/e...
it jus dont matter. Slow mornin. On a lighter note i'm hatin cause some people got games early then they were posed to be droped. U..u bastard.
i don't think they hate 360 it just doesn't have what they like. and in japan nintendo and sony are well established to a piont of no room for 3rd system. the only thing holding ps3 is the price. ones the prices goes down like $100 or more then will start seeing ps3 sells escalate
Japan not liking the xbox 360 has nothing to do with how great the xbox 360 is. The only way Japan will adopt a foreign product is when there is nothing like it on their country... Games is more of a tradition than anything else in Japan... besides one only have to see the success of the xbox 360 on every other country compared to the rest of the world... Japanese arent aliens you know... people think that Japanese people don't like what the rest of the humans like... or like what the rest of the world don't like. Unlike Americans that hate the person that live next to them... don't support their economy by purchasing goods manufactured in the country.. Japanese people are know to be united... to support their own people more than anyone else... Which is why most of the jobs are going of shores and outsource to other countries... and the reason why pretty much anything in the US is made in China... and why china's economy is stronger than ever... until ofcourse the dog we are feeding bites our hand.
was there an actual thought in that whole collection of words. because i didn't see it.
Actually, Japan is the 3rd largest market.. The America's are the biggest by far, followed by the European Market, and then Japan. Fair of not on how they divide the markets, that's how it is. Japan comprises some 14% of the worlds video game market, while the America's comprise of some 45% of the video game market. Don't give Japan more respect than it deserves, those are just the numbers. And I enjoy strategy games more, but thanks for the generalization.
the point wasn't that japan was so imp.-the point was that no console is doing so incredibly bad in any one region as the 360 is doing in japan. and to do that bad in one of the top 4 regions is a problem for ms.
The Playstation 3 has only outsold the Xbox 360 by a ratio of 2:1 in Japan. What's worse for the Playstation 3 is that the Xbox 360 has sold very poorly in Japan--although better than expected. The FACT is, Sony's Business Plan fully EXPECTED the Playstation 3 to sell MUCH BETTER in Japan than it is!!! The FACT is, Microsoft's Business Plan actually expected the Xbox 360 to be doing slightly worse than it is. Microsoft never had high expectations for the Xbox 360 in Japan. Microsoft has said all along that their goal for the Xbox 360 in Japan is to use this generation as a stepping stone so that progress is made each generation. The IMPORTANT FACTS are that the Wii continues to outsell the Playstation 3 by a ratio of 6:1 in Japan!!! Even this past week when Sony was bragging that the Playstation 3 had a "good sales week," the FACT was that the Wii STILL OUTSOLD the Playstation 3 by a ratio of 3:1. But the overall sales numbers are what count the most. This past week, when Sony thought it would be a good idea to brag...The Wii sold 75,000 systems, compared to only 25,000 for the Playstation 3. That means over 50,000 more Wii systems were sold in a single week. And the next week, sales were back to normal for the PS3, and the Wii outsold it by a ratio of 6:1...AGAIN. Microsoft has said that since the $50 price drop of the Xbox 360, sales of the Xbox 360 have increased by 50%, which once again means that the Xbox 360 will outsell the Playstation 3 each week by a ratio of 2:1. Japan is LITERALLY the ONLY country in the world where the PS3 outsells the Xbox 360. It is also important to remember that Japan does NOT represent the importance that it used to in terms of sales. In the 16-bit era, Japan used to represent 30% of the worldwide market for videogames. Currently, Japan represents less than 15% of the worldwide sales for videogames. In fact, Japan is no longer classified as its own market anymore. Japan is now referred to as a part of the "Asian" market by the videogame Corporation. The one thing that is SUPER IMPORTANT about Japan, is that they have a lot of third-party developers and publishers of videogames. And the SUPER IMPORTANT FACT is that the Xbox 360 receives MORE JAPANESE Third-Party SUPPORT than ANY OTHER next-generation console!!! Even companies like Square-Enix, Konami, and Namco have more Xbox 360 games in development than they do PS3 games. The bottom line is: Japanese Businessmen--Third-Party Developers--LOVE the Xbox 360 more than ANY OTHER CONSOLE!!!
Fact: 360 has that many consoles in japan because its been out for so much longer. You can use the same logic and say ps2 is beating the 360 in japan by a large margin, even though it came out many years ago. If you adjust for the time difference, things look very different. The 360, on a day to day basis sells about 10x less than the ps3.
the "SUPER IMPORTANT FACT"? how old are you, 6 or 7. what an idiot.
"The Playstation 3 has only outsold the Xbox 360 by a ratio of 2:1 in Japan. " So, you say the PS3 is only selling at 2:1 rate in Japan over the 360, huh? How long has the 360 been out in Japan? And that's supposed to be "not as bad as M$ expected?" Spin away xbox! And please. For the love of God. Stop comparing the Wii to the PS3. It's 1/3 as cheap and is a game console that will do for the time being until PS2 gamers move over to the PS3. No rush. They certainly had plenty of time to buy the 360freezbox! And if you choose to bring up the Wii's PWNing of the PS3. You better soon start including the 360 in that group (even after it was released in 2005).
18.1 Ok its cool its cool, we don't want no problems.
Aggragate demand for the PS3 fell below the 360 at the end of the chart, so while the PS3 may be outselling the 360 in Japan it is not doing so well in other countries or the margin would be in favor of the PS3. Looking at how badly the PS3 kicks the 360 in Japan, for the 360 to be outselling the PS3 worldwide says something about PS3 sales in other countries.
Yep, something PS3 fanboys don't like to discuss.
Based on 100% of the 360 bar graph. The you might want to take a better look at your "outselling the PS3" statement... The point of the middle graph shows the upswing in trends... Japan: PS3 +90% ahead of 360 UK: PS3 60% of 360 France: PS3 +9% ahead of 360 Canada: PS3 70% of 360 Australia: PS3 80% of 360 Spain: PS3 +20% ahead of 360 Belgium: PS3 +15% ahead of 360 USA: PS3 55% of 360 Italy: PS3 +5% ahead of 360 Sweden: PS3 50% of 360 Most of these numbers are not exact and are loosely based on trends. But they do show tendencies. And it's great that the PS3 will reach 50% (soon) of the sales of the 360 in the US alone. We'll find out soon enough as xmas rolls around. Right now the 360 is a bit over 10MIL. And the PS3 is between 4.5 (conservative numbers). By January we'll be taking around 60%. Uh oh for the xbots!
Trust me, PS3 is not so popular in Sweden. I live there. And I watch the Gamereactor site almost every day, and there is some Sony lovers there, but there is more of people that like the 360.
In North America--the largest videogame market in the world--the Xbox 360 has outsold the Playstation 3 by a ratio of 3:1 for each month of 2007. The only reason why the overall Worldwide Sales figures make it look like the Xbox 360 is outselling the Playstation 3 by a 2:1 ratio is because of the Japanese market, and because the PS3 continued to launch in several new countries, such as Australia. We need to remember that during the Holiday shopping season of 2006, the Xbox 360's Worldwide Sales were literally HIGHER than the COMBINED worldwide sales of the Playstation 3 and the Wii!!! Starting in January 2007, the Wii has outsold all systems worldwide each month. And during every month of 2007, with the exception of when the PS3 launched in Europe, the Xbox 360 has outsold the Playstation 3 each month, by an average of a 2:1 ratio. Even if you compare the sales of the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360 to "similar points in their lives," the Xbox 360 was FAR AHEAD of the Playstation 3!!!
There's a whole year of difference between the 360 and the PS3 and the PS3 is catching up amazingly quickly even though it's more expensive and has had less time on the market. Much less if you consider the fact that the European release was only 4 months ago.
It's not catching up, what non-sense you been reading, it's falling slowly further behind.
Yeah the Ps3 rocks in Japan, boosting this to the top Baby
OMG this is terrible Japan hates America we shouldnt have made the xbox or the 360 ... we should have never entered the console war ... with their superior systems and technology were screwed world war 3 is coming ... and its our fault lol
Thats why Western devs getting all the awards right
Japan dislikes many American made products that compete against their own. I don't see any Japanese made OS's that are competing against Microsoft or Apple, so they're booming there. If we try to compete in Japan, we will get boned. Quite a few "All Americans" who are also gamers choose the 360 mainly because its "American Made!" It's funny though, most things here in America are imported, its our main source for well.. nearly anything! Except for many crops and livestock, but the good stuff is always imported, like many beloved HDTV's, many beloved games, rice, ramen noodles, and best of all, anime!!!!!!!!! American anime is pathetic =/. So yeah, the title should be Japanese Love Japan Made Products, Hate American Made Products >.>
Jap r a lot more hardcore gamers then USA so they pick the system that will last a lot longer.ppl in usa just get system to play a football and they see the price they think it is the best deal in the world In jap Gameing is like Football here so it big deal ppl want to get the long lasting system.
After Nov we will see how well both systems sells! Its not even the season yet and all the games start coming out at the end of this month. MS needs to cet the 360 to under 300 and i will have one
but the fact is that ps3 will win the next gen war, its proven itself with exclusives and great games, they also must of figured out how to make the ps3 ports look like 360 smart ppl, but face it, if ps3 has no games why is out selling 360 10 to 1 in japan? PS3 is all the pwr baby, LOL, IMO
Japaneese know quality grade... rock on ps3!
almost all hardware and software sales in Japan belong to the Wii and DS. The PS3 is a complete failure in Japan. Microsoft has always done poorly in Japan and 360 is selling better than the original XBOX. That is a gain. PS2 ruled Japan last gen and is being crushed by the Wii....Do you see the difference. Japan also makes up a small percentage of sales anyway. Capcom's financial report stated that over 80% of their profits were made outside of Japan on software. Europe and the US make up the largest percentage of both hardware and software sales for the industry.
...how is this news?? The 360 has the UK, Canada, Australia, and Sweden...so what does that leave Sony?
"Wins" takes time. And that's something the 360 doesn't have. PS2 owners are slow adopters. They are very discriminating consumers. They like the Sony brand for a reason. Please. No "Mission Accomplished" speeches. Um kay?
It sure as hell isn't graphical superiority, or superior online functionality, since XBOX won both of those categories hands-down last gen. PS2 won off of the cheap built-in DVD, huge library of PS1 BC games, and a few exclusive franchise carryovers. The thing is, the reason the PS3 hasn't taken off yet, is that those factors don't really mean as much this gen. Blu-Ray is a long ways from becoming the established universally accepted media format, that DVD was after 3 yrs, when the PS2 launched. The BC PS2 library isn't really a draw either, since SONY has continued to push the PS2, with the newer versions, and most owners aren't ready to give up on theirs (especially if they've just bought a PS2 Slim). The # of exclusives has dwindled a lot, and a few others that remain, are still iffy.
CNIVEK, I'm not sure if you read my other post above. But maybe you should. It's more on topic than the post you just wrote. I restate again...I think the theme of this article is about "Japanese Love for the PS3 and HATE for the 360 (more specifically Microsoft)." Yes, that's a big reasons. I know you might just want to pick out parallels to the PS2 trends and how M$ is trying to follow in Sony's footsteps. But brand loyally is not something you can just ignore. And this is not only Japanese fans, but good'le American fans too! Yeah, we like Honda, Toyota, and Nissan (I'm going Japanese!). I'll leave you to ponder over those factors... Next. Lets talk about tangible reasons just so you don't go accusing us PS fans of "blind" loyally. There's a method to our madness for Sony products. I can list them for you. But I'll just summarize. While PS2 BC is important and past exclusive franchises are important. Sony is not as concerned with those as they are with NEW IPs! IPs that will be exclusive to the PS3 for some pretty good reasons: Cell/RSX/Blu-ray/PCM 7.1 audio and the growing HDTV adoption rate. Long term goals. These will include games that are built from the ground up specifically for the PS3's hardware. Now, are you going to sit there and tell me that the discriminating Sony fan, whether in Japan or around the world doesn't know this? Patience grasshopper! We'll see games that were thought never possible on a console. It will happen. Yes, I'm talking about the graphical superiority which you mentioned as not being a factor in the XBOX success WILL have an impact on the PS3's success. There's also that HD PCM 5-7.1 audio that doesn't get as much attention by the media (thank you 25GB blu-ray!). Remember the PS2? Cheap DVD player? Lack of HDD? Bad on-line capability? Not this time around. This is not your fathers PS. This is a new type of PlayStation that will push the limits of home entertainment. It's costly, yes. But the price will come down over time and the value will go up (in addition to the game library). P.S. DVD needed a headstart since VHS had a different formfactor. DVD to Blu-ray shares the same form factor. Thus, it's a much easier transition (12 cm diameter disc). Not the clunky VHS to DVD transition. Try sticking a VHS in a DVD tray. Not pretty. Oh yeah. Don't forget HOME. But of course, in your eyes, that not important since the original xbot had LIve. Oh well...that's Microsoft stick. Sony dances to a different drummer.