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Why we need to play as the Taliban

If done well, the Taliban option can give gamers a whole new sense of respect for the men and women fighting them in real life.

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r0gueZA2158d ago

LOL, interesting take on the heated topic!
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DavidMacDougall2158d ago

This topic was boring as soon as this shit started.

HSx92158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

lol the author says the Taliban are hard working men? Are you seriously trying to make a joke here? The Taliban are pure evil, and they are hated all over middle east, they're main focus is to over run countries who are weak, the author should go read and stop being an idiot.

Taliban are like United States Gangsters, except the taliban got more fire power and don't fu** around.

UP2158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

Also do not forget the Taliban are scumbags and use women, children, and innocent civilians as bombs and shields. They are scumbags. I honestly have to desire to play as them in a story mode. I would be ok with multiplayer as long as you do not do the for-mentioned things I listed.

Eidit: why the disagree the Tailban are scumbags. What are they honorable people to you or what. They do use Women and children and other innocent civilians as bombs and shields.

Edit: you did not just call me more evil then the tailban did you? are you saying that I use children and women as bombs to blow up my enemy. I know there are good people in the area they are just put down by the evil ones. GTFO.

Eamon2158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

HSx9 and UP, you both are worse than Fox News.

You're probably more evil than the Taliban, mate. Cuz they are really religious conservative people.

Sure, they have a lot of flaws and stuff that makes the West look down on them but they are not evil and they simply fighting for their land and country.

Don't forget, America are the invaders and occupiers. But anyway, the war will end soon and it will be just like how Russia left Afghanistan.

darren_poolies2158d ago

@ HSx9 and UP

'One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter'

mastiffchild2158d ago

Did no one else watch any of the way pre-war documentaries about the Taliban's regime? As a governing force they were terrifying to my, very tolerant, eyes. I think it's VERY understandable for westerners with little to no knowege of the hardline religious tenets of people like the Taliban to see them as purely evil because they were a non elected regime forcing their laws and ways upon large expanses of their populace resulting in women starving if they had no men folk to go to the shops for them and getting publicly stoned, often by relatives if they dared to venture out alone themselves. Shar'ian law(sorry about the misspelling)is not something I'd ever agree with and even lessa so without your whole nation WANTING to follow it but, sadly, it doesn't allow any tolerance of other beliefs which left the atrocities done in it's name an everyday certainty for as long as it existed out there. It's one case where I feel something needed to be done for the people suffering at the hands of a sect they never signed up to.

Thing is, as it's a religious(or so we're led to believe but who's to say there aren't monetary greeds behind a lot of these things these days with those believing the doctrine being the ones doing the dirty work?)stance, they were never going to negotiate more freedoms for those not believing their interpretation of Islam and force became, even before 9/11, a more likely outcome if we wanted some hope for large swathes of Afghans, no?

"Evil" is a nasty word and not one I'd use even here. Sre, their acts have been called evil and some certainly are but it doesn't make all those involved evil at all-some can be put down to a hardline belief system but in today's world any religious sect must allow for people not to share their views and this is the root of all the hatred and trouble being found in that part of the world today, imho. Had the Taliban allowed for Christians, different sects of Muslims and so on to follow their beliefs there would have been some hope for talking out there but as it was I saw no other outcome. In the UK I'm certain people would be allowed to follow their beliefs as long as the law of the land wasn't broken but when the law of the land is SO religion based it doesn't allow for tolerance and this is where the two mindsets can never be aligned.

Gamers won't, btw,even think about the plight of whioever they play as which is what made this a non issue from the very start.

itivino2158d ago

Eamon, really? Calling people worse than terrorists is a pretty loaded charge. You think by making moral equivalencies you are all high and better than everyone - you just don't have the balls to take a side.

Those guys would kill you and your family in a second if they had the chance just for not being a Muslim. They hate women, brainwash kids to blow up civilians, and they've made it their life purpose to kill all infidels. If you aren't willing to call that evil, then maybe you should go try living with them?

Philoctetes2158d ago

It makes me sad that people are unwilling or unable to recognize real evil when they see it. The Taliban absolutely qualifies.

NYPunkster2158d ago

The more people talk about it the more free press MoH will get.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

dinkeldinkse2158d ago

Unless HSx9 and UP are Stalin and Hitler, Eamon made one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard.

darren_poolies2158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

You can call many people evil such as the Taliban, Hitler, Stalin etc. but no one is truly evil because they are only doing what they believe or believed was right. Now in no way am I defending their actions as I despise them for what they did but you have to look at it from another point of view and think why they did what they did. They thought they were doing good so does that make them pure evil? Doing what they thought was right?

barom2158d ago

I actually do wish someone would make a game that sheds some bad light on US. It seems every war game glorifies America's military force and its killings and in doing so also cuts down the respect for other countries. If only people could view the USA from the outside for one moment to realize that the US is the cause for a lot of shitty stuff too.

Cevapi882158d ago

first of all, if any of you think that al qaeda=taliban...you are seriously misinformed....the taliban arent trying to overrun any countries...their rise came from the invasion of afghanistan in the 80's by the USSR...the taliban used guerilla warfare to fight the Soviets with money and arms supplied by the US...what you need to understand is that was the cold war, the ultimate goal was to make the Soviets lose...millions upon millions of dollars were spent on weaponry....the moment the war ended and the soviets pulled out....all that money vanished....the US stopped supplying weapons and left a weak decentralised country fend for itself....a power vacuum needed to be filled....and guess who gained that power....the ones with the guns...nothing was done to rebuild afghanistan....no money came to build schools, set up a strong government....i find it funny that people are surprised when they realize that the US had a lot to do with the taliban taking over afghanistan....and this is not iraq...most of these men are husbands and fathers fighting due to the loss of family members from US forces...most are just common village men who have been raised to live like there ancestors have for centuries...the real taliban are those that grew through the fall-out of the Cold-war...those are the men that need to be taken care of in order for there to peace in that country and that sadly looks like will never happen....the US really has another vietnam on their hands

AAACE52158d ago

... something about trying to get us to see the other side. For us to understand why they are fighting us!

Either way, I don't care! It doesn't change the fact that soldiers are dying over there and most people just want our troops out of there! It's kinda hard to consider this a war, because in a war, you usually can identify your enemy! What we have is a bunch of people moving along the civilians and setting traps!

It's like that old saying... "You can't kill, what you can't see!"

barom2158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

It's actually quite different and pretty much the opposite. The article is actually trying to address the critics who thinks its wrong to allow you to play as a terrorist.

Author's idea? Make a Taliban mission made where the Taliban are portrayed as angry terrorist crazies so that we can appreciate the efforts of American troops.

Eamon2158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

People misinterpret when I said "You're probably more evil."

I meant that the Taliban are not "evil" in the sense you making it out to be. They believe they are doing good and righteous actions and fighting a worthy cause.

And wtf, they aren't terrorists. Do you even know what the word means? Seems, just because the media uses that word all time the time these days everyone is throwing it around.

They are insurgents fighting on their homeland.

And guys, read Cevapi88's nice little essay above.

coolman2292157d ago

Wow, can't you guys stop hating? The Taliban are terrorists. They are bad guys. Can't you people get over it? I guess this is no use because this site is a nest for idiots

@UP I agree all the way

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sandip7872158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

how would multiplayer work without the taliban side... US army vs US army? US army vs zombies? US army vs spartans? what would people have there in place of taliban? the author delves into this topic too deep. it isnt about having a new perspective on war. its to have 2 fucking teams fighting against each other

Playerz82158d ago

Lol, what an anti-american quote.

badz1492158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

I don't think that any of us, gamers are in "need to" play as taliban, even as the us army, british army, russian or even anything! we just play as what the game offers but why do we have to come through all these BS propaganda?! IT'S A FVCKING GAME! as long as it doesn't take a piss of any religion, or maybe country also (to a certain extent) then I'm ok with it.

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yewles12158d ago

"If done well, that Taliban option can give gamers a whole new sense of respect for the men and women fighting them in real life. That would be an enormous accomplishment for anything. In any media."

Somehow, I doubt that's what the devs have in mind.

-Alpha2158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

Exactly what I'm thinking. In fact, it's the controversy as playing as them that I think they are hoping will help generate the attention for this game. Because really, Halo Reach and Black Ops are going to dominate over MoH.

Soldierone2158d ago

Sales wise? Yep. Quality wise? Nope.

Its not even EA that is using it. Its Fox using it, its journalists making stories like this using it. EA has never even done anything with it, they send a comment here and there, but nothing like they did with Dante's Inferno.

Soldierone2158d ago

Why wouldnt it? After all this is all the trailers are set out to be. If you ever watch interviews or even talk with the devs behind the story and entire game you see they have a true respect for our soldiers, and they are setting out to show people why soldiers are so great.

Is it the goal in multiplayer? No, but there is a thing most COD players dont know exists....its called a single player STORY!

badz1492158d ago

but it's mainly the western media who are hot on EA's tail regarding this! we've been playing as terrorist for ages but why suddenly it's an issue when they changed the term "terrorist" -> "taliban"? both are still just pixels on screen to me! are these retarded people really think that a game as an entertainment media can really be like terrorist trainer or something?? stupid people are stupid!

tunaks12158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

In COD4 American soldiers also get killed. Just accept that some will be offended and get on with it, not everyone needs to be praising or condemning the game. The buzz around the Taliban being playable reminds me too much of the fake protests that EA set up for Dante's Inferno.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi2158d ago

EA themselves is creating the controversy.

skip2mylou2158d ago

except they arent look at the No Russian mission in MW2, they raised controversy and after like 2 months it released everyone forgot about it. this isnt EA making contraversy its idiotic douches who think that they are heroes for saying crap that doesnt affect anything, why didnt they have any problems with WW2 games or Vietnam games hell they have no problem with Resident Evil games, Resisitance games or any other games

Sharingan_no_Kakashi2158d ago

The no russian was controversy because it crossed the line a let you be a terrorist. While being a Taliban soldier in mp may cause controversy it shouldnt be anywhere near as controversial as it is. Those old WW2 games didnt have missions that let you be a terrorist. RE5 DID get controversy. And why would anyone complain about Resistance? Do you know what the term controversy means?

skip2mylou2158d ago (Edited 2158d ago )

i never said no russian never created Controversy, I said after 2 months all talk about it pretty much died, yes only RE5 got controversy but it was for a little bit too Resistance made controversy because it used a holy church in England were it was blown up but all talks about it died after sony apologized but they didnt remove the game from shelves, i think you need to go and look for other topics to talk about because i know controversy means. WW2 makes you look at terriorist if you look at it from other perspectives like the families who were raped killed tortured and kicked out of their homes. YOU on the other hand need to go and look at peoples comments because you overreacted

mastiffchild2158d ago

"No Russian" became gratuitous and tasteless the moment it asked you if you wanted to bother playing it. It wasn't needed for the story and could have been better done in another way imho as it offered nothing that couldn't have been told better another way, offered no challenge in gameplay terms and if you know why you couldn't just kill Makarov at the time I'd love the secret shared! Apart from anything else it wasn't convincing which adds even further to the thought that it was there(and remember the very FIRST teaser for MW2 was from that part of the game so they def wanted it noticed by the media, imho)purely to generate column inches of outrage for Acti.

IDK about MoH because, being honest, you have to have two sides in competitive MP and they did the normal thing of using the two sides from a part of the SP. I don't think that much thought went into it and to suggest it's there to encourage deeper thought about the plight of the Taliban is plain daft to me. Great big storm in a tiny, teeny, pinkie raising teacup. We need to stop reading things into games when it isn't there and no disrespect was ever meant to anyone at all-two sides are a vital part of competitive MP, these were a faction in the game and that's about it. Move along, no?

Soldierone2158d ago

Corrections need to be said here.

-You didnt play as a terrorist. Anyone that says otherwise didnt PLAY the game, or didn't pay attention to the story at all. You were an operative getting in behind enemy lines and finding the bigger truth to it all.

-You didnt have to kill anyone. In fact IW said 90 percent of the testers didnt even shoot a bullet during that scene. It was a dramatic scene, you not shooting only helped the story which has a spoiler alert.

-Movies do this crap ALL THE TIME! Yes there have been stories where the good guy is playing the bad guy and even kills people. Yes there are movies that show things much worse than this. Its common in media. Get over it, ITS JUST A GAME.

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djmindz2158d ago

i don't get whats all the fuss about, first of all we already had a game were you could play as an terrorist "insurgent" vs US marine core

its called Insurgency its a HL 2 mod it has maps of iraq pakistan and afghanistan nobody said anything about the game and it was released in 2007 when USA was already fighting iraq & afghanistan this Medal Of Honor damage has to stop

Dead_Cell2158d ago

It's just a character skin, EA isn't exactly asking you to be-head somebody here.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi2158d ago

what the controversy is about do you?