Sony Blog: 360 Reliability Issues & Recent PS3 Stress Test

Karraker had this to say:

"A lot of noise has been made recently about the reliability issues of one of our competitor's systems. So, not surprisingly, some of our more ambitious PlayStation faithfuls decided to run their own stress test on the PlayStation 3".

He also refers to the PS3 being an energizer bunny.

[the worst]

thats like comparing
paper = 360
solid steel = ps3

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

Anybody see the 'smashmyps3'? The guy had a sledgehammer and he was still having a hard time breaking the ps3. Classic stuff.

But once the many games (good, bad and medocre) start flowing for the ps3, things will start to go more in the ps3's direction.

[Ri0tSquad]

I have an old playstation 1 from 1995 thats covered with sooo much dust and its so beat up but it still plays games easssy. And that playstaion 2 slim is just awesome that system took a beating and it still works.

[InMyOpinion]

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

Check it.

So now only certain news gets approved. Forum posts, blogs etc. but not legit reviews that follow the guidelines?

Nice going N4G!

[KingME]

I checked out your review and I agree with you 100%, there is nothing in your article what should have caused it NOT to be approved, especially with all the other crap that does get approved on this site. IMO you are simply a victim of PS3 censorship by PS3 fanboys on this site that didn't want this type of information released.

Instead of considering other possible buyers of this product, the only thought about their own selfish fanboy beliefs. Damn, this fanboy stuff is starting to feel like a cult, some of these guys are in WAY TOO DEEP. I honestly think they would assault each other if the opportunity presented itself.

Bottom line: Your article SHOULD have been approved.

N4G here is an early indicator, you may want to fix this problem now before articles start getting "majority rules" right around here.

[ReBurn]

Actually, the PS3 is the first Sony console that's built great. Both the PS1 and PS2 had lousy media drives when they were launched. I had to turn my PS1 upside down to play games until the thing just stopped working. Forget games with FMV. The PS2 had so many drive problems that Sony was sued over them.

The PS3 certainly feels solid. Too bad it took 3 generations of consoles to get it there.

[Clinton514]

It's pretty much linking back to the same stress test. This will only upset some already agitated children.

[ArduousAndy]

that i have with the stress test is that there is no proof of this being done.

I can easily write saying that I did the same thing with my brothers PS3 yet that one failed.

Its not like that video of the Gamecube being dragged down a street and ends up still being playable.

[Fisher339]

nvmd

[Omegasyde]

ARMZ | August 13th, 2007 at 10:49 pm (from the blog)

So when the other side installs their 65nm chips does that mean that beta testing is over?

The other side should be commended, they have arguably taken part in one of the largest BETA tests known to mankind!

It only took 2 years, 11 million units, and an extra billion to “get it right”

Lmao. Not playing fanboy, but what a funny comment. You have to admit being a beginning 360 owner, it did feel like a beta test.

[KingME]

It didn't need to be posted, there is nothing out there to indicate that the PS3 needs to be stress tested to prove it's reliability. This was release by sony and posted here simply for bragging rights.

PERIOD

[Odion]

Ehh I am not phased, this shows a lack of professionalism on Sony's part, and kinda sad that they actually posted this from a site that has no proof

[Clinton514]

Are you an employee of Microsoft's game division? Why would a BLOG bother you?

[s8anicslayer]

because he is a flame just like i pointed out before he just likes to flame but he can't take the heat!

[Omicronn]

Its a bit out of character for them, but
so was Moores Fake GTA IV wash off tattoo
The "Wii60" under the table promotion

Trying to think of nintendos over the top moves, but they are pretty much just sitting back and:

[Vertius]

"Lack of Professionalism?"

Have you seen any of Microsoft's comments? Sony had the grace not to mention the 360's name, Microsoft does no such thing for the PS3, openly bashing it at every opportunity.

[DrPirate]

Immature. They shouldn't of done this...

Now what? Major Nelson: LOL SONY HAS NO UNIFIED ONLINE SYSTEM? Ozymandius: LOL CELL IS HARD TO PROGRAM FOR?

This was a cheap move on Sony's part especially considering (By what I hear because my PSX and PS2 worked from launch) that their PS2 was quite faulty as well.

[Expy]

It's a blog, since when have blogs been professional?

[the greatest]

no lag on the ps3 lags like hell 360

[Lord Anubis]

both people you mention have taken a bit of Sony, its no reason for sony to do the same but the PS3 It Is a reliable system.

[DrPirate]

Why the hell would some of you preach Sony to me? I'm one of the most outspoken realistic PS3 supporters on this site. What are you going to do, eat your own? Jeez, it was just an opinion, I thought the blog post from someone so high up was immature and unnecessary.

[toughNAME]

wow thats pretty lame taking shots at MS like that

i dont remember MS taking shots at anyone when Sony used MS's games to advertise their own games...and of course the complete lack of quality of PS3 games in comparison to 360 games

[Expy]

They didn't mention Microsoft, but the problem is so widespread that everyone knows about it, and that is not Sony's fault, not one bit.

[s8anicslayer]

stop comparing games lets debate who has quality games by the end of the year, the 360 has been out for almost two years

[CNIVEK]

I'm insulted that I'm expected to believe ANY of that bullsh1t.

Unless the "Playstation faithful", who supposedly conducted such ludicrous tests on a PS3, work for Underwriter's Laboratories, and have officially documented their results...I'm calling this 100% BULLSH1T. :o

[cuco33]

wasn't someone preaching about viral marketing recently that ms is so 'guily' of??

even if ps3 passes the ps3 reliability test (which is an oxymoron) this is proof that sony themselves are guilty for viral marketing as well

but hey, that's business.

[MK_Red]

Wow, they dod their best, not to name their competitors. Still, it's darn impressive to see that PS3 survive those things, a great console and design indeed.

[WafflesID]

Yup. We know already. In fact saw this the first time it was posted.

Personally I think Sony did a HELL of a job with the PS3. Really is quite impressive. And I also know about all the issues with the 360.

Still didn't stop me from paying even more money to trade in my 360 premium for an elite.

I love the games it has.

Makes you wonder, when people post this kind of news over and over and over again...who are they posting it for? Is it a Sony fan trying to convince 360 owners that they made a mistake, or are they posting it to make their purchase seem better? Or is it a 360 owner who thinks that there might actually be someone else out there who owns a 360 who didn't already know about it?

*shrug*

Either way, this was actually an interesting article the first time it was posted. You HAVE to be impressed with the stress test the ps3 endured no matter what your preference is in consoles.

[DrPirate]

Hey man, very well written piece.

I agree with everything you say, and it's the exact same way I felt about this generation.

I can't help but think however, that your comment was somewhat directed at me. Get under a bus? I insulted tons of people on this site, and I don't mind getting insulted either, but not from another Sony fan. I'm the happiest owner of a PS3 and I can't wait to get what's in store for me in the upcoming weeks. Microsoft is unprofessional in their console bashing, I think they're children when it comes to their role in the industry, but I don't think Sony has to ever stoop to their level.

Anyways, I'll bubble you because I think what you say is true, and you presented your topics in a very mature manner. I also hope what you wrote wasn't directed at me because I didn't mean it in a bad way, I was just displeased that Sony would bother to put this on a blog when it's very evident and I already know I own the most superior built console.

[reaperxciv]

Liar...you don't even have an XBL Gamertag

[junk56]

my god people its a blog. if some guy from sony wants to show people that the ps3 can't be destroyed then he can go ahead and do it. its not taking shots at MS saying they're crap or anything but it's just proving ps3 is like steel.

and in the end, ITS A BLOG. are you going to accuse sony now because jaffe said joystiq is a horrible website?

[JokesOnYou]

OK I hear you ps3 is more reliable than 360= win for ps3

360 best games= win for 360

360 best online= win for 360

360 at 12 mil sold ps3 at 4 mil= win for 360

360 ease of dev and tools will increase 360 future AAA exclusives= win for 360

cell+rsx not optimal for gaming= win for 360 (unfortunately theres nothing can be done to fix this huge mistake until ps4 is focused back on gaming instead of poo-ray trojan horse format)

I could go on but I think its clear that you should be focusing on the problems your own system has instead of something that actaully hasn't been a concern then again sonys 1st priority is the winning the movie format.= Mr. Karraker: "hey JokesOnYou what problems? this is just how we planned it" sorry sony kids=

JOY

ok hate me and disagree all you want sony kids but the evidence speaks for itself, you know its true and 360's problem is being fixed, sony however cant change the gpu in the ps3, am I wrong? disagree all you want but micro is winning where it matter most= the games and sony will keep losing unless theres some kind of magical firmware update Im not aware of that will change out the rsx. you see sony exec's talk crap and it keeps biting them in the butt.

[Clinton514]

I'm guessing you're not educated enough to be giving any technical speeches.

[Bathyj]

And you've still got that sh*t on your lips.

[Omicronn]

There is only room for one Mart...
haha sorry i had to:)

[Omegasyde]

Spell check = Win for you
Verb + Subject = Win for Grammar
Complete sentences with proper clauses= Win for the Reader
Having you as an defender the 360= Win for the Ps3 fanboys

You stop typing = Win for us all.

Another Stupid fanboy that brought a knife to a gunfight.

[Nokkturnal]

First off they have no proof, secondly why didn't they try this with the other systems?? who knows maybe the 360 would do the same, then again maybe not. all i can say is i like the 360 and games and i'm on a launch system and never had a single problem. also my girl uses it while i work so my 360 is on pretty constant

[Nokkturnal]

oh yeah and one other thing. since when did a brand new 360 break immediately? it takes quite a while for a brand new 360 to start screwing up

[Bathyj]

Since you brought it up, mine was broken in the box launch night. I'm only happy they didn't sell out and took it straight back for a new one.

[Nokkturnal]

i'm not in denial, i'm stating my experience and have never read about rapid failure with the exception of "fixed" consoles. but thanks for pretty much calling me an idiot. feel better about yourself?

[Omicronn]

Little harsh by him, but hes just one of the many angry people who went through game hell with the 360.

MS made good on their almost 2 years of lies and defective product.

I give them credit where it is due.

All these machines we buy for game fun, living room media machines, and PC's... they all have one issue or another, and each one has to fix the problems.

So far MS failed on good hardware
Sony failed on launching a year late with enough good games to shut the media up
And Nintendo came out of no where with a goldmine to suck up the rest

Either way, we all get to suffer and be happy same time :)

[BIadestarX]

Ok, fine I can admit that... I can admit that the XBox 360 is the best game console... and the PS3 is the best build blu-ray player that is able to play games.

[Clinton514]

Do you lack all sorts of reading comprehension skills? Where was anyone asking you to admit anything? You're not clever.

[deadeyes99]

stress test this I ran my 360 at a 1080p resolution for 72 hours straight non stop, never got too hot to touch, never had framrates issues never even glitched so either im really lucky or simply blessed to have a 360 from launch day and everyone else doesn't know how to handle a system. ps. Idle temperature in the room i played in was 105 degrees.

[aiphanes]

I am over 400 work units. My Ps3 is not even hot to the touch, and has never broken down. I have never had a disc scratched or even a lockup. And if there is something wrong in a firmware sony will always fix it in the next firmware, since there is a firmware update every month.

Sony put their heart and soul into the PS3, and this time next year...they will dominate. Even the Wii has overheating problems in standby mode!

The PS3 has no problems. It is the most solid built console ever made! But guys just think about this. The PS3 is also the most complex console ever made. The Cell processor, the bluray drive, there is a PS1 and PS2 in it...and 2.5 inch SATA drive...this thing can fold a work unit in 6 hours on folding@home and only 24000 ps3s can put out 500 terraflops!

Do you guys and girls really realize what the PS3 really is? Did you know that is uses industry standard stuff inside of it?

Industry standard 2.5 inch SATA hard drive
Industry standard memory card reader for all flash memory
HDMI 1.3 (not cheap ass HDMI 1.2 like in the xbox 360)
Industry standard wifi 802.11 b/g
Industry standard bluetooth 2.0

[Nervsys]

"Do you guys and girls really realize what the PS3 really is?"

By the contents of your post - it isn't a games console is it.

The idea of spending all that cash on a piece of kit so you can run someone elses software for them is just laughable.

Have you played any games recently?

The 360 may have reliability problems but at least 360 owners have a reason to power them up in the first place.

[Bathyj]

Since when is it against the law to voice your opinion in your own blog? As far as I can tell he didn't bad mouth the competition. He didn't even name them.

He commented on something a 3rd party did, that benefits the perception of his product. In other works, he's cheering for his own side, not booing the competition.

Fanboys are so uptight they cant even tell the difference anymore.

[Yosking]

*Breaking news*
"The FAA has issued that all Aircraft “Black Boxes” be replaced with the more durable PS3…:D"

lol this is hilarious

[The Dude]

Might as well because there is no game library for the ps3. And games play better on the 360, take madden 08 for instance.

[DJ]

We already know that the PS3 hardware rocks. BTW, you HAVE to try Motorstorm. Amazing graphics, addictive gameplay, it's awesome.

[cuco33]

you lost ALL credibility after defending the ps3 like a rabid fanboy bashing the 360 every opportunity you had only to 'accidentally' reveal that you JUST bought a ps3 some few weeks ago.

to yosking... im pc wii 360 waiting for games I want to play that I am interested in before i get a ps3. see, i'm the type that upgrades pcs for a single game, that picks up a console for 1-2 titles i want, that owns all systems enjoying all the titles so not to miss out on. i don't stick to just 1 system unlike many trolls like yourself and other from both sides of the camp. i don't miss out on anything thus enjoy everything and respect developers who put out a quality title. so what that 70% of my gaming now is on the 'crashbox'. mine hasn't failed me once and i highly enjoy it. in the end, isn't a GAME system meant to do just that? play GAMES that are good? that's what i'm doing. but you can go and toot your horn on lower quality ports or the handful of 'must own' titles i can count with one hand and have fingers left over. spend your time reading news rather than gaming. then you and dj can play on his mint just out of the box system and preach how great it is. you know, being that he is the most infamous for being a loyalist meanwhile JUST getting the system few weeks ago :rollseyes:

viva la revolucion!

[Yosking]

CUCU and the dude you both are jealous of the brute strngth, durabily, and reliability of the playstation 3. Go play ur crashbox360!

ROCK ON PS3

[btkadams]

wow thats actually impressive! yay sony. but they ARE a hardware company so its not a surprise that they make good hardware.

[FormidableOne]

Despite my avatar, I'm not biased toward either system. They both have their ups and downs. Sure enough, the Xbox 360 is doing a little bit poor in reliability department, but as with another 2nd gen console that has horrible reliability (*cough* PS2 *cough*) they're trying to make right by it.

Sony had a class-action lawsuit filed against them as well and they made good. Microsoft is doing the same thing with their consumers. I don't get why people can't just understand that both systems are wonderful and are good in their own ways.

We, the gamers, are the ones benefiting from this "console war." So instead of fighting amongst ourselves, let's just gear up for a wonderful holiday season that is going to rock for both systems. If any of you have multiple next-gen systems, you know what games to keep your eyes open for.

PS: I own both systems, I'm no fanboy. I have one PS3 and two Xbox 360's. One Premium and one Elite, only so my wife and I can play Final Fantasy XI online. I had owned a Wii, but we re-sold it for quite an amount of money.

[AngryTypingGuy]

There's no doubt that the ps3 is built well. If this article is true, that's quite a feat for a piece of electronic hardware. Could the 360 do that? Probably not.

However, now the 360's have improved hardware, with the new heatsinks and smaller chips. Things have been addressed. What happens when everyone who's had a problem has a 360 that works great? What happens when hardware is no longer an issue, which for MOST PEOPLE has not been?

Then, it comes down to the bread and butter. Which system has the best games? Which system has the best experience? On which system do most games run better? Which system has the highest rated games? Which controller feels best in my hands? Which system has the least game delays? Which has the best online features? Which has the best exclusives?

Some of these questions are a matter of opinion and preference, but even the biggest Sony fanboy would have to admit that the 360 has the clear advantage in some of these areas. OK, who am I kidding, MOST of these areas.

[DJ]

stress test for the 360, just to see if anything occurs. Maybe even a Wii.

[progx]

karraker's a f@ggot, one of sony's biggest sh*t talkers.

[Danega_Sciphor]

dudes, ps3 is the most reliable. 2% failure against 35
XBL is not that great and 50d's a month is BS
OK games 360 has but game quality??No, Ps3 has promising titles coming out, I am the Outspoken SONY REGIME that proves my case

No proof? Such a lame comeback, they made this up?
PS3 is more powerful than 360 (7 core processors , 360 only 3)
PS3 has several AAA titles (no need to name when you know)
Faulty 35% FAilure, and xbox is superior? No
Ps3 has better exclusives and graphics, i mean 360 games are so bright and hazey you know the graphics must be ugly, games like FEAR should be dark and gritty, plus GRAW2 on PS3 is better
xbots just remember everything i say is fact, so talk SH*T like always but you can never prove me wrong

[DARK WITNESS]

you were doing so well there, till you said " Ps3 has better exclusives and graphics, i mean 360 games are so bright and hazey you know the graphics " Now we all know you are half blind. How thick are those glasses ?

we all know sony make better hardware, thats what they do, thats what they have always done. unfortunately i am not so much of a hardware junky, just a gamer.

there is only one test i have conducted and thats which system do i switch on the most, which system do i play on the most. at the moment the 360 is winning thats all.

i will worry about the hardware issue when i have a hardware issue...year plus and waiting...

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I Wont say much about the 360 since I dont own one, but I Will say anything I want about the PS3 Since I Own one.

The PS3 ROCKS!, Not as good as XBOX 360 Live?, I Cant say but I Will say that PS3 online features are in noway Horrible, It's a bit buggy but easily fixable with Firmware.

Speed on the PSN?, I Use a Wired Ethernet connection for my PS3, Speed is on par with my Cable Internet on my PC.

Most pages Display good, a few have trouble, You can watch youtube videos via your PS3, that was kinda cool to be Honest :)

PS3 has a Zoom function, even my PC doesn't have that, unless you find and download a 3rd party software.

Back to speed though, Some people say It's slow, maybe it is using the wireless wifi, Most people have cable modems, Buy a router, Hook the included Ethernet cable that came with the PS3 into the router, buy a Mouse and a Keyboard, Then Install Linux on it, You'll have a Small very Powerful Computer on your hands.

Again, please dont bash me, I'm only Commenting on what I Know, not what I Dont know.

So IF They did run the PS3 through these tests, man Thats a AWESOME Computer!.

[CNIVEK]

"Back to speed though, Some people say It's slow, maybe it is using the wireless wifi, Most people have cable modems, Buy a router, Hook the included Ethernet cable that came with the PS3 into the router, buy a Mouse and a Keyboard, Then Install Linux on it, You'll have a Small very Powerful Computer on your hands."

No, a "very powerful computer" would be able to play all of the current and near-future PC games.....and the PS3 cannot. You've just got a really powerful, rather expensive web browser. :o

[Vertius]

...And so many other things, CNIVEK. The breadth of features on the PS3 can't really be contested. It's a true media hub.

[InMyOpinion]

Since when did blogs count as news, the guidelines clearly state that blogs should not be posted as news.

[00]

Until I see any I call bullsh!t.

[WilliamRLBaker]

This is lame and stupid.
2 reasons.

1st Its a duplicate.
http://n4g.com/NewsCom-5870...

2nd Its a site..an Official Playstaiton blog? talking about the failure rates of an opposing system and we know they are talking about 360, yet Sony has a right to talk? with ps1, and ps2 failure rates being paramount the last 2 gens? or battery recalls?

Edit: LOL 2 disagrees, LOL guess what. ITS A FACT this is a duplicate story! that link leads to a playstation blog, that then LINKS to the "supposed" stress test, Which has been posted here all ready! like...2 days ago!

[SofaKingReetodded]

did anyone catch this in the NY Times piece he linked to?

"More than one million units have already been ordered."

this was in regards to the almighty omg there are already 5 million preorders Gaylo 3.

I've been saying for a few weeks that all of these brats spitting out that 5 million number were clearly talking out of their ass.

[kingjkv]

I just have one question that i still don't have an answer to. This is to all u xbots, that for some reason is on this post. WHAT games do Xbox 360 have for next year to combat MGS4, Killzone 2 and FFXIII? NO serioulsy please tell me, i'm in real urge to find out. WHAT AAA exclusives do they have, some one TELL ME!!! SO either put up or shut up.

[DARK WITNESS]

here is how it will go.

play halo 3 online, play masseffect, play more halo 3 online. buy Mgs4, play mgs4, finish mgs4, back to playing halo 3 online. buy killzone, play killzone, finish killzone. play killzone online, be disappointed by killzone online...back to playing halo 3 online.

simple ! ok there really is a list of games but can't be bothered.

just think of all the games we know exist that have no release dates eg; Huxley, Alenwake etc. still i must say i am looking forward to finishing Mgs4 and ending snakes story. the whole Lalaylolalo...or what ever the £%£ they call them selves that was classic !

[ChefDejon]

Disc are as strong as the console

[Shadow Flare]

seriously i was thinking the same thing

Yeah i was gonna say the same thing. Seriously, the 360 has had a nice little run around, but MS don't think about the future.

2008 for the 360 - What is there?

Mass Effect
...hmmm what else...Too Human? nah that looks too mediocre
..whaaaat else....hmmm....geometry wars 2?

2008 for PS3

-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Gran Turismo 5
-Final Fantasy XIII
-LittleBigPlanet
-Killzone 2
-Burnout 5 (ps3 priority)
-8 Days
-Heavy Rain

aaaand we'll be enjoying Home while you guys stare at your gamertag (which you paid $50 for)

and even this year

2007 for 360

-Halo 3
-Bioshock
-Project Gotham Racing 4
....hmmm Blue Dragon? Don't get backache changing those discs now

2007 for PS3

-Warhawk
-Ratchet & Clank
-Lair
-Heavenly Sword
-Uncharted
-Home
-Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
-LittleBigPlanet Beta

Here's hoping your 360's last til Christmas

[Kelvis]

Shadowflare, I'll ignore the obvious nonsense of 'Microsoft don't think about the future' and glib 'too mediocre' comments...

You're busy pointing out the games the PS3 may enjoy in 2008...Even out of the games you list for 2007, none of those have been released yet.

PS3 fans have been quoting 'Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, etc' since 2006, and *still* none of these games have been released.

And while the PS3 fans have been waiting, Xbox fans have enjoyed titles such as Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Gears Of War, Forza Motorsport 2, PGR3, Crackdown, the Tom Clancy franchise games and more since 2006...

Edit - I've never made one of these 'lists of games' before, soI decided to look up 'Xbox 360 games list' on Google, leading me to a wikipedia entry: Here is the listed games for 2008 on the 360.

Alan Wake
Alliance: The Silent War
Alone In The Dark
APB
Banjo Kazooie 3
Burnout Paradise
The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian
Civilization: Revolution
Condemned 2: Bloodshot
Crimecraft
Dark Messiah of Might & Magic: Elements
Darksiders
Dead Island
Dynasty Warriors 6
F.E.A.R. 2
Fable 2
Fallout 3
Fracture
Gears of War 2
Grand Theft Auto IV
Harker
The Last Remnant
Legendary: The Box
Madagascar 2
Midnight Club: Los Angeles
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
Project Witches
Prototype
Resident Evil 5
Rise of the Argonauts
Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Saints Row 2
Silent Hill 5
Soul Calibur IV
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
TNA iMPACT!
To End All Wars
Tom Clancy's EndWar
Too Human
Top Spin 3
WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2008

[PiTCHBLaCK]

"No, a "very powerful computer" would be able to play all of the current and near-future PC games.....and the PS3 cannot. You've just got a really power, rather expensive web browser. :o"

The PS3 can play any game that Lands on it, A PC Would need Requirements, So Your Computer needs to be Intel Dual core 2, 2 Gig of ram or Faster to really Enjoy Most PC Games, and There are some Games that will be coming to the PS3 that Good PC's will need upgrades on just to Run.

I Use a Intel Core dual, 2 gig Ram, Yet the PS3 is more powerfull.
My PC Doesn't even have a Blu-ray drive in it, yet I Bought it brand new this year, I'm a PC Guy at heart, but cant deny a powerfull machine.

Yet my PS3 isn't even half the size of my PC, but it is heavier.

[WilliamRLBaker]

*rolls eyes* yes the ps3 is so powerful yes *laughs* Frankly the Ps3 was surpassed a month after release when it comes to CPU, and Graphical power, this is a fact, And Theres not a single Ps3 game that couldn't run on an midrange computer:)

[CNIVEK]

...click "Reply", dumbass.

Anyway, so you actually expect me to believe you're going to be playing Crysis...or any other PC title...on your PS3? Umm...NO. Sure, you could use emulation programs to "run" a myriad of older PC titles, but anything made in the past few years...or future...wouldn't work with the PS3 hardware. I don't recall ever hearing of Cell being an x86 processor. Therefore, if you actually manage to get Crysis, or Alan Wake, or Bioshock...or whatever...running on your PS3, by all means, post a link to a YouTube video as proof. :o

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Yea the PS3 is a very well made machine.

But Sonyboys won't give me credit, for giving the PS3 credit. They'll still talk sh1t.

360 owners have games to play. Same old arguement, but it's too fvcking true...

[DEADEND]

I hate to break it to you most of those games you've just list are multi-platform so there going to the PS3 as well. You should have just listed games that are MS exclusives and you would realize that theres not much games coming out next year for the 360(at least thats what it seems like cause they didn't show too much from their inside studio for next year). When you make a list you'll realize that SONY always has the most IP's and usually the most execlusives for their system(not a fanboy just stating facts, i own a 360) and you can easily look it up on ign.com for your self.

[Kelvis]

Deadend, I'm aware that I've listed games that are multi-platform - I have no problem with that whatsoever. I enjoy playing multi-platform games, as do many others. I'd say it's probably the case that multi-platform games outnumber exclusive firstparty games too.

If I was the kind of person who only played exclusive games, I probably wouldn't have a very big games library! In fact, I don't actually know anyone that only plays exclusive games...If that's the case, why only count these?

Shadowflare's point was that there wasn't much for the 360 in 2008: My point was that there will be plenty of games for the 360 in 2008.

Doc Evils - My 'Xbotch3fixme' has lasted since February 06 - if anything goes wrong with it there's a 3 year warranty.

Please everyone, give this nonsense a rest, saying things like 'Xbots', 'Gaystation', etc only make you appear like a 10 year old who can't adequately express themselves...In fact: scratch that comment, it's offensive to 10 year olds.

[Rims]

The Xbotch3fixme would last 2 seconds.

[Robotz Rule]

How many times has your 180 I MEAN 360 been in the shop for repairs?

None?BS!

Most of the games you listed are multiplatform,and MANY 360 titles that are exclusive will go to the PC,and the ones that are true exclusives don't hold a candle on the PS3 exclusives!

[Kelvis]

Robotz_Rule:

Sorry to disappoint your blinkered view. I bought an Xbox 360 in February 2006. I've had '0', zero, none, no problems with it. It's never been in for repair.

Also, I'll copy and paste from the previous post since you obviously didn't read it:

I'm aware that I've listed games that are multi-platform - I have no problem with that whatsoever. I enjoy playing multi-platform games, as do many others. I'd say it's probably the case that multi-platform games outnumber exclusive firstparty games too.

If I was the kind of person who only played exclusive games, I probably wouldn't have a very big games library! In fact, I don't actually know anyone that only plays exclusive games...If that's the case, why only count these?

Shadowflare's point was that there wasn't much for the 360 in 2008: My point was that there will be plenty of games for the 360 in 2008.

Ps. Thanks also for proving my other point.

[DEADEND]

Look i understand what your saying but in this gen new IP's and first party games are what going to make systems sell and show the true power of the systems. Yes third party games are extremely important but they will not define the systems(except FFXIII,VS XIII,MGS4, and GTA4)so you need AAA titles from your in house to prove your systems worth. Thats why i said that you shouldn't list multi-platform games on your list, I'm not trying to get on your back or calling you a MS fanboy(that would be pointless and rude of me)but trying to make you understand the truth that those games shouldn't even be mentioned.

[Kelvis]

No worries Deadend, I appreciate your opinion but, I respectfully disagree for the reasons I've stated. Can't say fairer than that :)

[Shadow Flare]

Kelvis, im talking about GOOD games, moreover im talking about GOOD console EXCLUSIVES. Point in case, that list you have proves my point. Barely any of those games are true AAA exclusives. And even fewer of them can stand up against the ps3 AAA exclusives.

Don't mistake that for a fanboy comment. Games like Alan Wake and whatever should be good games. But the games coming out for ps3 are from franchises that are PROVEN SYSTEM SELLERS:

-Final Fantasy
-Gran Turismo
-Metal Gear Solid
-Killzone 2

and games like LittleBigPlanet has huge anticipation waiting upon it.

Looking through your list, here are the AAA exclusives i found:

Alan Wake
Banjo Kazooie 3
F.E.A.R. 2
Fable 2
Gears of War 2
Saints Row 2
Too Human

The others were either crap or multiconsole. Here's my verdict on those games:

Alan Wake - Niche/ Not a system seller
Banjo Kazooie 3 - Not a system seller
F.E.A.R. 2 - Not a system seller
Fable 2 -Possible System seller/ Who cares, we got Final Fantasy XIII
Gears of War 2 - System Seller/ Since when was that coming 2008?
Saints Row 2 - Not a system seller
Too Human - Not a system seller

PS3:

-Metal Gear Solid 4 - Franchise proven system seller
-Gran Turismo 5 - Franchise proven system seller
-Final Fantasy XIII - Franchise proven system seller
-LittleBigPlanet - Very possible system seller
-Killzone 2 - System seller
-Burnout 5 (ps3 priority) - Devs are making game better on ps3
-8 Days - Too little info/ trailer looks awesome
-Heavy Rain - Too little info

I also noticed on your list that Mass Effect is not coming out in 2008. If so, then i hope that list you made appeals to you

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Your so biased it's impossible to take anything you say very seriously.

[Kelvis]

Hey Shadowflare, thanks for the reply :)

When you say 'GOOD' games, can you tell me what quantifies as a 'GOOD' game? After all, one man's meat is another man's poison. For example, you list 'Final Fantasy' - well, I'm probably most definitely in the the minority but I can't stand the FF games.

I'd completely agree that Metal Gear Solid & Gran Turismo are system sellers, but I've also read that the first Killzone didn't exactly set the world on fire, so how may it be that it's sequel comes into this category?

Your list of PS3 games (with good points next to them) and then Xbox games (with bad points and 'who cares' next to one title) is obviously biased (as this statement also determines): "The others were either crap or..."

I guess since I don't like the FF games, I can put them in the 'crap' category?

Nevertheless, your original point was that there were no games coming out in 2008, my reply *including multiplatform games* pointed out there are plenty of games coming for the 360 in 2008. As I mentioned to DeadEnd, I and many others (most likely including yourself) play multiplatform games, so I can't see a good reason not to include them.

For example, multiplatform games that sell systems include all the EA sports franchises, Call Of Duty, GTA and the Tom Clancy franchises.

Edit: My apologies for not including 'Mass Effect', I guess there must be more games coming for the 360 in 2008 that aren't on my list :)

[Alymon]

I don't find it to be very credible and I find it to be very suspect especially considering the reports of the PS3's breaking in the store kiosks because of overheating.

I don't really take issue to a Sony Sponsored blog spouting off Sony Sponsored rhetoric and taking stabs at their competitors. That's called business.

Really though, taking this as anything more than Sony just trying to push their position higher in the market isn't really thinking critically.

Sony Dollars + Sony Site + Sony Exec = Biased article no matter how you look at it.

I'm not saying it's inappropriate for Sony to say things like that, but don't forget about the best. Their systems were overheating and breaking in store kiosks, let alone a sauna or a freezer.

[Aeroglyphics]

This article went a long way to reassure me of my purchase. As we all know it's slim picking for games on the PS3 right now. It's good to know that in a month when the games start coming, I wont be to concerned with my console over heating to fully enjoy the game I'm playing. To me that alone is worth the price I paid.

[trueltie5]

MS isn't focusing on future titles because they're "all in" right now this year. Peter Moore even made it clear how important this holiday season was...at E3 it was all 07 titles right ? By no means am i trying to stir things up here but the 360's future after this year doesn't look so bright and guys like Moore probably knew that and jumped ships. Why is it major developers aren't focusing on new AAA titles for the 360 beyond 08 now ? Kojima and gang knows it...Even with all of these repairs for the 360 (which i don't get why x360 gamers still stick up for) isn't going to solve this mess. MS investors know and they've been screaming about this...Hell I wouldn't be surprised Mr Gates himself believes that the gaming division threw itself dead in the water. I think it's time to swallow some of our prides and move onto the "next gen" system which is clearly something like the PS3.
Plus...Publishers don't want to deal with all their 360 games being resold at gamestops or returned from scratches and lawsuits...hahahaha...jk

[BIadestarX]

Ohh cry me a river... I would like to think that you are not a complete idiot... but you are not giving me any choice... I tried to find rationale on what you are saying... but I keep coming back to the same conclusion... you are an actual idiot...

Here is my explanation.... and let's see how you can response to it..

1 - Microsoft spends billions of dollards stablishing the xbox brand.
2 - Microsoft spends lots of money trying to increase installbase in order to have the advantage over the PS3.
3 - Microsoft spends lots of money making deals with 3rd party developers to bring exclusive content.
4) Microsoft create a great fall 2007 that will guarantee millions of consoles be sold... increasing dramatically their installbase and revenues....
5) Microsoft now is able to sell millions of copies in games and collect millions in royalties from 3rd party games developers...

***** And here is where your logic comes in.... "major developers aren't focusing on new AAA titles for the 360 beyond 08 now"

6) Microsoft stops making games or deals with 3rd party developers to bring content to the xbox 360 that are guaranteed to make millions or billions in revenue...

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhahahahahahahaha... ahhhhhhhhhhh ahahahahahha.... Seriously dude.... you seriously bust be sniffing your shoes or making soup with your dirty underwear....

yeah.. sure.. microsoft got this far.. just to drop it now... that they can only make money....

Here is a more realist reason why you don't hear more about future titles... Do you know what Companies do when they don't have nothing to offer? They talk about what they WILL offer.... Microsoft does not have to talk to much about games being released in 2008-2010 like Sony have to do... their game lineup is enough to attrack gamers....

Do you think anyone would buy a PS3 if you wouldnt know about Kill Zone 2, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy and other games being released in 2008-2009? Why do you think Sony have 2 years talking about Kill Zone 2..... did it benefit you to know about kill zone 2... 2 years ago? Are you playing it now? As of now Sony is selling the PS3 on promises... Will they deliver.. I don't doubt that.... but don't try to undermind the xbox 360 because it can sell base on what it can offer today and within 2-3 months... That's just dumb.

[Relientk77]

Wii is small and can easily break (unlike their gamecube which was hard to break)

360 has soo many faulty, techincal issues etc im not gonna even start its soo easy to break/ or break down and kill itself the microsoft EMOBOX 360 LOL

the PS3 is a frickin god thats built like 20 tanks into one ... u cant beat it

[cdzie1]

Take the focus away from poor PS3 sales and talk about 360's heating problem (that has already been solved, and is old news at this point). Sony is full of BS talking heads.

[supnub5]

and all otha playstation products are very reliable xboxes, i used to have first one broke down after 3 months, all my friend's xboxes did the same.

[deadeyes99]

once again, had my 360 since 2005 never glitches or got hot get your facts straight bud.

[ReBurn]

Not to mention that the PS3 is the only reliable launch console that Sony has ever released.

[calderra]

When's Sony ever goign to replace all the faulty disc drives on first-run PS1 and PS2? Pot, meet kettle.

[mcgrawgamer]

exaclty the faulty dvd drive was just as infamous as the rrod. especially now that msoft has stated a lot of the returns they got were the 4 rings (video cable not plugged in fully) compared to the actual 3 rings. My buddy actually had this issue and called and was about to send his back for repair until he called me to complain and I told him to check his connections and it worked. This is customer service training issue. I don't think the public fully understood the actual red ring error and for both issues to be so close the average consumer just assumed issue. I know; I work in customer service for time warner cable; you'd be suprised how many customers call in to notify us of issues when they do things as crazy as unplug the cable box and forget to replug it in, but hands down the ps3 is the better hardware this gen.

[Danega_Sciphor]

at all, PS3 has no problems and its a powerhouse, 360 sux all around from tech to stability, come on xbots your really trying to defend a 35% failure rate, xbots crack me up, xP

just for the xbots that say ps3 cant play powerful PC games, thats a lie, all i have to do to play bioshock on ps3 when it comes out is get yellowdog, so once again, pwned

[Shaka2K6]

But beacuase x360 is the worst built gaming system in the history of gaming, i dont ever remenber a console braking as much as the x360.

[DARK WITNESS]

while we are all busy fighting over which is better 360 games or PS3 hardware, the little Wii is running away with our girl friends and grand parents. By the end of 2008 when the PS3 has finally got some good games and the 360 has finally fixed its hardware issues, the Wii will be in power and running the nation.

you will never see a drop of blood or a pair of breast in a video game again. Hardcore gaming will be outlawed and we will all be forced to play Mario cart with the wiimote for the rest of our lives............

[rjc2fp3]

Now when it comes to multiplatform games in 2008, coming after a probable surge of ps3's due to mgs4 and killzone 2 in Q1 (especially if rumors of a somewhat stripped cheaper ps3 come true), wouldn't consumers be more likely to buy games for their newer more reliable console. A sales increase for ps3 could potentially make devs develope for ps3 first since they should have a better understanding of the technology by 2008 and then port to 360. As for 360 exclusives Halo Wars might be good. I am curious to see how games designed as ps3 exclusives then became multiplatform pan out(with the excpetion of assassin's creed because ubisofts recent comments about ai and naruto being too hard to put on the ps3 seems stupid)compared to all of EA's crappy 360-ps3 ports

[greed]

I don't see why people are gitting so uptight about about a blog on a sony website and think its a attack on ms i mean if it was a direct attack then it would have mentioned ms name but it didn't now iv seen a few posts on this website that gets approved where theres a representative openly talking about sony and how there system has games or there system can do this but you don't say anything about that i don't get fanboys all of yall are alike whether it be sony or xbox fanboys you seriously need to get over your selfs and appreciate what you have cause not everyones fortunate!

And yes i am a ps fanboy because i like the games that come out on the system i have grew up with them and sony has never steered me wrong i am not a LOL....HAHAHA.....YOUR SYSTEM SUCKS fan boy because that is just imature so all these people posting comments that are fanboylistic about another fanboys comment just shows who you are on the inside and how you have no life but off topic xbox may have some good games that are out and coming out this year but nothing that would make me want to purchase a system it may be great games its just reminds me of something similar to what i have on ps and for the people saying we have no games and you are playing this and this you maybe right but right now RFOM is enough for me until the games do come

it just makes me wonder what will you be saying then.HMMMMMMMM!lol

[DARK WITNESS]

nice to hear a real fanboy, who is not a fanboy but a real gamer with a preference. i have both consoles, but i prefer my Xbox for the same reasons. bubble for you sir !

it just gets stupid when people start name calling just because someone else likes something different to you.

some great examples on both sides below...

[360_Rules]

LMAO they are testing the PS3 instead of playing great games. Yeah the PS3 is sure a great system. ROFLMAO!!!!!hahahahhahahahahha hahahhaha
The first Xbox could stop bullets but the PS3 couldn't stop jack. The 360 is going to get fix like the PS2 remember Sony fanboys the PS2 broke a lot too.

[IRONMAN457]

wtf is that xbot crap supposed to mean, xbots have no logic and intelligence at all

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Not once Did I ever say that I would even try to play a PC Game on my PS3.

Before I Say anything else I'll say that I'm merely talking about the PS3 and in noway have I Bashed the 360, The common word these days is fanboys I Guess, I'm speaking Facts not Fiction or Denial because your a fanboy of sorts.

If a PC Game was ported to the PS3 It'll run easily, name one that cant, The only way to Test this is to take a Average PC and Run as many New PC Games on it as you can"not at sametime though", Then see if It's choppy or even Compatible, Now Take any Game on the PS3 AND Run it, The PS3"Like the 360" Is a small Gaming Computer, Gaming Computers are some of the most powerfull on the market, yet they cost $3,000 or more, But both the 360 and PS3 are $400 to $600, and the PS3 Includes a Blu-ray Player, sure wish my PC did.

My PC was $1700+, And I Still Love it, and I'll never replace it with a PS3 or 360, But Still the PS3 is more powerfull then my Intel Dual Core 2 PC.

Check it out yourself.