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5 Reasons The Kinect Will Succeed

In the first of a two part series, pnosker.com covers five reasons that Microsoft's upcoming motion controller will succeed when it releases later this year.

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iamnsuperman2674d ago

"4. Current Xbox 360 users could use something different"....probably true but do they want something as different as this because of its being used for casual games

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tinybigman2674d ago

will not and i repeat will not touch my 360.

moneygun22674d ago

than that overpriced wii upgraded flown under the sony propaganda flag of "MOVE"

tinybigman2674d ago

and yet its used for actual core games which is what M$ should have been thinking of when they decided to drop this on people who seems to be easily manipulated by media and PR crap speak.

Agent-862674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

"1.Excellent support both at launch and in the future." That's a joke right? 15 lame launch games: nothing but fitness, dance, and Wii-party games. Even when or if its eventually incorporated into a core game, it'll be on-rails experience....Oh joy!
"2.The Kinect and 360 make the Best Console/Controller Combination." E3, Gamescom, the gaming press, and core gamers seem to differ with you and praise the Move as the best motion controller.
"3.The Kinect price is actually competitive for people buying a new console." Just wait till the Wii drops to $150. Kinect could be in real trouble since it really has no appeal to core gamers and the Wii will be much cheaper.
"4. Current Xbox 360 users could use something different." Really, that's a reason? Geeze, then upgrade your PC or buy a PS3. Do something that actually plays good games.
"5. Less wires=More Exposure, More Stupidity, and More fun." What, one less wire than the Wii? The Wiimote is wireless and only the Nunchuk is wired. With the Move, both handheld units are wireless. Pretty lame reasons all around.

BrutallyBlunt2674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

1. It means support from developers and yes there is good support for Kinect. No argument needs to be made there.If you don't like the games that's one thing but there are lots of publishers/developers supporting it.

2. Too early to tell. Either the Move or Kinect really has impressive software at this point in time. Sorcery looks cool and so does Child of Eden but beyond that there really isn't anything to suggest a must have right now. Other games like Socom 4 just have Move support and are not entirely made just for Move.

3. Doesn't that also hurt the Playstation 3 combo or do you just save your pessimism for the XBOX 360?

4. So the XBOX 360 doesn't currently have good games? That's odd considering most of the Playstation 3 games are also on the XBOX 360. Not everyone wants two platforms but many may want to add to their existing one.

5. I think it means games like Dance Central where you can enjoy gaming without any controllers.

Biggest2674d ago

LevelHead, act your name. Excellent support should mean support in the form of excellence. But if you're cool with excellent support meaning support instead that's on you. The Kinect has shown itself to be a HORRIBLE combination with the 360. All of the games have noticeable lag. All of the games have trouble recognizing the player at one point or another. It isn't too early to see this. The price is not competitive with the casual market's other offering. The Kinect costs $150 dollars on its own. That is $50 less than the Wii console. Current Xbox360 owners may want something different. But I am pretty sure that the large majority did not ask for the Kinect nor are they impressed by what it does. Notice how I didn't say "what it can be in the future"? The future could have personal mini-jets and floating cities. But I wouldn't put a down payment on those properties just yet. Fewer wires is hardly a reason for something to succeed. Ask a competitive gamer if they want to lose their wires. I don't care if the game is a RTS, MMORPG, fighting game, or FPS. They want wires. But for the most part, if you can eliminate wires while maintaining function people will be happy. But the key phrase there is "maintaining function" and as we all know, the Kinect does not do it well. You may also notice, LevelHead, that I did not mention the Move in anything I said. Since this is a Kinect topic we should keep to it. Bringing the Move into Kinect doesn't do much in the way of validating the Kinect.

Agent-862674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

1. Excellent support isn't fitness, dance, and Wii-party games. Where are the core games? Why does everything look like the same thing the Wii has already done.
2. "Too early to tell". Like everyone who has had hands on experience (or hands off in Kinect's case) can't see the difference. And, what's your point about Move support being added to games. Isn't that a big plus that existing games are being made to support it? Kinect, not having that ability, is a major minus to me because the launch games are pathetic.
3. Sony is aiming for its core audience first, to get a following and market for the Move and to get casuals later. Price cut on the Wii will not have as much of an effect on the Move since Kinect and Wii are going for the same casual crowd.
4. I didn't say 360 didn't have any good games, you just inferred that. The author stated that maybe, if 360 owners were bored of core games, then Kinect is for them. I just think there's better way to spend your money. Upgrade your PC or get a PS3 and experience some good games unavailable on the 360.
5. The author was the one who made a big deal about less wires and I mentioned the Wii uses only one and Move is completely wireless. Still, pretty lame reasons why the Kinect will succeed.

J-Smith2674d ago

1. Justin
2. Bieber
3. Kiddy
4. Fan
5. Base

LoL

iamnsuperman2674d ago

Sadly this is true. Microsoft have hit the nail on the head with there advertising get Justin Bieber. His fan base is large and easily influenced. Its just a shame that the core fan base suffer. I know reach and gears are coming out soon but it feels Microsoft have lost their way and are ignoring their main fan base.......Other than Justin Bieber its Hannah Montana (who btw I can not stand since she went on the Jonathan Ross show- she is such a cocky little brat)

spacetattoo2673d ago (Edited 2673d ago )

And how many people own a wii? I see that you always jumping all over wii.

Looks to me wii is kicking the crud out of both MS and sony, If they weren't we wouldn't have kinect or move.

So whats your point, just because your a super gamer that knows everything people should like, tell me why wii is doing so much better? if it's all shovel ware and crap then why is it selling so good. the games on the system sell better to, so don't tell me people are not interested in the games.

love these comments that are from the so called real gamers, you don't have a clue about buisness and how to cater to all your customers.

Wii is 30 MILLION UNITS AHEAD OF XBOX AND 35 MILLION AHEAD OF PS3. So I think catering to both the hardcore and the casual is pretty damn smart. What do you think?
30 million more units. lets put it this way. would you love to have 30 million dollars, h3ll 1 million, even 1000 bucks would make your day or week. So why is the casual so dull if they can tap into a market that is still pounding away sales at a high price point for the system it's on.

You don't think if the system sells a ton load more you won't see more hardcore support? you will and it will help the industry to push to both sides of the market.

you don't think after MS drops this no controller needed effort they won't incorperate the controller and kinect. they know people love the future products and will advertise it as such. once the first wave of games hits then things will get better. just like any new gameing console. how many games did sony release it's first year or so. not to many but look at them now floating them out non-stop.

SO chill out, this article is why it will sell well.

Not why A hardcore gamer hates anything not hardcore.
seems to me hardcore is just half the market.
sony and ms know this and will cater to both from now on.

Peace be with you.

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CombatEvolving2674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

As a Xbox 360 owner, I am not excited for Kinect in the slightest way. Like it or not it will succeed though. So many people are excited for Kinect and some don't even know what it actually is. I heard some guy talking about how you will be using Kinect to control every aspect of Call of Duty, from knifing to blowing people's heads off. In reality it will be mostly for shovelware with a few gimmick applications in regular games. If you like fitness or dance games Kinect seems to work best for them.

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-GoldenTimeLover-2674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

It will succeed during the first three months. After that...

AtatakaiSamurai2674d ago

i mean, it's going to sell well during the Christmas season sure but it's what it does after the season ends that many in the industry are looking at. in feb-april or sep'10-nov'10 will it relatively keep and improve the pace set at launch or will sales decline rapidly?

cliffbo2673d ago

agreed. first three months mayhem, following months lethargy and death

Omega42674d ago

The reasons I see it succeeding are positive press from main stream media, its different from the Wii, huge marketing campaign, great value bundle, 3rd party support (publishers willing to make full games exclusive to Kinect) and Dance Central.

@dontletmegetme
Same thing was said about the Wii, look what happened there.

cobraagent2674d ago

The majority of people that wish to buy Kinect are parents because of Kinectimals. Thus, I consider Nickelodeon advertising to be essential for MS.

Denethor_II2674d ago

Dance Central is for little girls and their Mums, so why would you care?
HIT IT! Show me what you've got!

spacetattoo2673d ago

@Den_uk

Sure just moms and girls. people love to dance, you ever hear of a club, you know where all the hot girls go. I can't count how many times i got laid because I can dance. I dj at night clubs on the side and believe me, people love to dance. there is million dollar establishments all over dedicated to just that. so you don't think guys might try to get there grove on at home, rather then look like a fool when dancing next to me.

this just proves to me that you have no clue what your talking about.

Bloodyghost2674d ago

great value?! Im sorry anyone stupid enough to get the Kinect for 150 has too much money laying around. I would get this only if they show more games that look to innovate. Dance Central and Child of Eden are to only interesting games.

At least there not doing Halo Reach, Gears 3, Fable 3 and other games adding Kinect compatibility which is stupid part on Sonys behalf. I mean I want Killzone 3, I want Socom 4 and others but adding Move to those seems to dumb down the AI alot. Saw a video where your using the move in Socom and the AI just sits there and until you kill about you leave about 2 left then they start shooting back.

exnihilonihilfit2674d ago

Positive press from msm/marketing campaign = same thing, MS can basically pay off msm, unfortunately independent journalists can have a less assailable integrity or may be too partisan to be swayed.

Great value is debatable, the cost is not exorbitant, but it's also not cheap by any standards, given the present line-up of game offerings, it cannot be reasoned to be a worthwhile invest for anyone who is over 12 basically.

Thus far there really has been much information on third party support, certainly not as compared with move which has a control system that can easily be integrated into multiplat games that don't even use motion controls on other platforms. Still further, there really isn't anything that Kinnect can do that move can't either approximate or do better, so why would third parties make a lot of exclusives for it?

cliffbo2673d ago

it needs variety though Omega4. lets compare lists. i'll provide the games for MOVE and you provide the list for Kinect:

REAL GAMES

SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs (Fall 2010)
The Fight: Lights Out (Oct. 2010)
Heavy Rain (Oct. 2010)
Little Big Planet 2 (Nov. 2010)
Sly Collection (Nov. 2010)
Heroes On The Move (Working Title) (2011)
Killzone 3 (2011)
Sorcery (2011)
echochrome ii (Sept. 2010)
Hustle Kings (Oct. 2010)
The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn’s Quest – WB Games (Sept 2010)
Resident EviL 5 Gold Edition – Capcom (Sept 2010)
RUSE – Ubisoft (Sept 2010)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2010 – EA (Sept 2010)
Time Crisis: Razing Storm – Bandai Namco (Sept 2010)
NBA 2K11 – 2K Sports (Oct 2010)
Disney Tron Evolution the Video Game – Disney (Nov 2010)
Toy Story 3 – Disney (Sept 2010)

PARTY GAMES

Beat Sketcher (Fall 2010)
EyePet (Sept. 2010)
Kung Fu Rider (Sept. 2010)
Sports Champions (Sept. 2010)
Start The Party! (Sept. 2010)
Tumble (Sept. 2010)
The Shoot (Oct. 2010)
TV Superstars (Oct. 2010)
High Velocity Bowling (Oct. 2010)
PAIN (Oct. 2010)
SingStar Dance (Nov. 2010)
John Daly’s ProStroke Golf – OG International (Fall 2010)
Racquet Sports – Ubisoft (Fall 2010)
Brunswick Pro Bowling – Crave (Sept 2010)
Kung Fu Live – Virtual Air Guitar Company (Oct 2010)
Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos – Crave (Nov 2010)

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derkasan2674d ago

Optimism is always nice. I'm hoping for the best, but the thing is too expensive... :/

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